HOWEDY spamtrap1888,
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> On May 20, 5:58 pm, elegy <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:59:45 -0400, "Suja" <spana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message:
>>
>> >> i hope very much that i will be one of them. i fancy myself one,
>> >> anyway, and i'll try my damnedest to provide a good home.
>>
>> >I don't think anyone would doubt that.
UNLESS they KNEW her POSTED CASE HISTORY <{}: ~ ( >
>> > Have you lived with BCs before?
THAT'S ABSURD:
A DOG Is A DOG;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A GOAT Is A GOAT;
As A FERRET Is A FERRET;
As A MONKEY Is A MONKEY:
As A HORSE Is A HORSE;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES;
As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.
ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems Are
CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
>> > I'm wondering if it would be a good idea for you to foster for
>> > your local BC rescue to get your feet wet, and get toknow what
>> > it is like to live with one, while you're searching for your perfect
>> > breeder.
THAT'S INSANE. THAT kind of thinkin is HOWE
COME we got BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION.
Dogs in "rescue" should not be farmed HOWET to
ignorameHOWESES to take care of them till they
get their own new "forever HOWES".
THAT'S CRUEL.
>> i have never lived with a bc before, but to be honest, i don't really
>> want to get involved with fostering. i agree that it would probably be
>> an excellent idea to get my feet wet before committing, especially to
>> a puppy, but i'm afraid of getting attached to a dog who isn't what i
>> really want.
IDIOT.
> Fostering signals breeders that you are serious about getting a dog of
> a certain breed and that you have experience with their particular
quirks.
THAT'S INSANE:
ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Cir***stances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
You GET The Critter You TRAINED
In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.
Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific
And Could Not Obtain
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For All Handler's And All Critters,
And ALL Behaviors
In ALL FIELDS And ALL UTILITIES,
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> They don't want to sell a puppy to someone
> who will be tempted to rehome it.
elegy MURDERED her last THREE "rescue" dogs.
> You may want to prepare a doggie resume listing your experience
> with dogs, references from your vet and dogowning friends, where
> and how you will keep your dog, how you will keep your bc's mind
> engaged and his body exercised, etc.
Oh, you mean, sumpthin LIKE THIS?:
Here's Luce and here's elegy FRUSTRATING her dog who's GOIN
INSANE pullin against her pronged spiked pinch choke collar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzBtxevvcFs&mode=user&search=
Here's elegy HURTIN an INTIMDIATIN her "RESCUE" dog:
Re: homer bit me :(
"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ago and far away, Mary Healey <mhhea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> did say:
>elegy <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> i'm really disappointed in myself, because
>> i wigged out on him for it,
> I'm not sure you should be. Maybe it's because
> I'm used to dogs that'll keep pu****ng barriers
> just to find the limits (if any), but the bottom
> line is that Homer did something completely
> unacceptable (for whatever good and justified
> reason) and discovered that, yes, there is an
> upper boundary beyond which his new human
> gets a bit testy. That's a good thing for a dog
> of any age to learn.
i worry that he reacted out of fear
and i gave him more reason to fear.
luce is a huge barrier-pusher. i've wigged out
on her a few times, too, and that i don't think
was necessarily a bad thing. but with this guy,
because he's kinda timid and i think kinda
fearful, i feel bad about.
>> i put him in his crate until i calmed down
>> enough to not do anything else stupid.
> Well, see, you learned something valuable.
> Homer learned something valuable. It's all
> good. Neither of you will need to repeat this
> particular lesson. I hope so, anyway.
i put a harness on him and he seems much more
comfortable with having that held. he simply
cannot be handle-less until he learns things like
come, stay, and to go in his crate.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
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>> the trainer who took her place is a very nice person, but
>> she's one of those omg you can never ever ever punish a
>> dog ever for anything people.
Here's elegy MURDERIN said "RESCUE DOG":
Homer 1994 - 03.01.2007"
brothers and sisters i bid you beware
of giving your heart to a dog to tear
i put homer to sleep yesterday.
it was quite possibly the hardest thing i've ever done.
monday night i was trying to teach him to down using a
food lure. he wasn't getting it, so i put a hand on him to
try to encourage him to down. he attacked me, biting me
twice on the hand, and then when i stood up and backed
away, he came after me more and bit me on the leg as well.
i was shocked and devestated and a hundred other things.
i ended up emailing my trainer (who has turned out to be a
very kind friend) and she called me and i spent an hour on
the phone with her crying. she doesn't deal with aggression
cases, but she listened to me and talked me down. i hardly
slept that night.
tuesday i took homer in to work with me and had the vet
feel his neck. i didn't think it was a reaction due to pain
but i had to check it out. the vet put his hands on the sides
of homer's head and manipulated his head around. homer
didn't show any signs of pain or discomfort. he went
through the motions some more.
homer flipped out, with no warning, extremely violently. it
took him a long time (it felt like a lifetime. it was probably
around 3 minutes) to calm down enough that the vet could
take his hands off of homer without anybody getting hurt.
i went home for lunch and called a behaviorist. i spent a
lot of the day reading the brenda aloff aggression book and
the karen overall behavior book.
that night the behaviorist called me and i told her what
had happened and she asked questions and i answered them
as best i could.
she gave him a pretty poor prognosis.
everything that she said made sense to me, and nothing
she said was earth-shattering or even really anything
that i didn't already know.
this morning i took him in and held him close and cried into
his fur and told him how much i love him and let him go.
he was a dangerous dog. he bit unpredictably and with no
warning. he was a love, a snugglebug, a sweet sweet dog
as long as you didn't do anything he didn't want done. but
if you tried to "make" him do something he didn't want to
do, all bets were off. his reaction could be a snap or it could
be an over-the-top meltdown.
i couldn't live with a dog like that.
i *will not* live with a dog like that.
i've spent the last three days crying my eyes out. i never
imagined i could get that attached to a dog who i had for
all of 12 days and who bit me several times during those
12 days.
but i was. i loved him.
i loved him ferociously, but i had to let him go.
for his sake.
for my sake.
for the sake of luce and mushroom.
i feel horrible. heartbroken. guilty. angry.
and yet i don't regret him, not for one moment,
despite how things turned out.
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i'm sorry, but human aggression is a deal-breaker, especially
unpredictable, unwarned human-aggression. there is too much
at stake and too much to lose.
Posted by e @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
03/26/2007 06:49 AM EST
You were just as unpredictable to Homer.
Shame on you for giving him only 12 days.
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HOWEDY elegy you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute
chronic life long incurable malignant mental case Pit
Bull RESCUER, SNUFF TRAINER and SADIST,
"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> and so we reach the next chapter of Harvey is Making Me Insane.
You've only had Harve a couple months. You got him just a couple
weeks after you MURDERED your last DEAD RESCUE dog Homer
when he attacked you for ABUSIN him after someHOWE surviving
till nearly twelve years of age withHOWET benefit of a RESCUER.
> remember how i was having problems
> with him peeing all over my house?
Yeah. Harvey was pissin all over your HOWES on
accHOWENTA you was puttin cortisone eye drops
in his eyes to treat his glaucoma which is CAUSED
BY you CHOKIN him and neither you nor the pathetic
veterinary malpracticioners you work for was aware
that steroid eye drops affect the entire system just like
HOWE cortisone causes UN-CON-TROLLable pissin.
> he's not doing that anymore.
Yeah. You removed his eye to CURE the glaucoma
caused by CHOKIN him on leash and the stress from
lockin IT in a box.
> now he's pooping.
Your dog is havin anXXXIHOWESNESS behavior problems.
There's ONLY TWO *(2) reasons HOWE COME a dog or kat
would **** an piss in their own HOWES:
1. He's SICK.
OR
2. He's UNHAPPY.
> and eating it. (he leaves crumbs.)
Coprophagia *(**** EATIN) is CAUSED BY your ineffective
inapupriate barbaric midevil HOWEsbreakin methods.
LIKE THIS:
> From: der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Marshall Dermer)
> Date: 1999/12/21
> Subject: Re: Doc Dermer's offer
> > In article <tfR74.1$W64....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Jerry Howe"
> > <j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> Lemme aks you sumthin, doc? When you punish your dog,
> do you find that he masturbates more frequently after
> such instances? (referring to your post about your dog
> using a pillow to get himself off)
First, I punish behavior, not dogs.
Second, I rarely issue corrections.
Third, as time goes on my dog uses the pillow less frequently.
I would say he uses it about once a month. Finally, I'm not
really concerned about my dog's masturbating; I don't find
such dog behavior offensive.
Eating dog poop, for me, is another story. And the rate
of that behavior has also diminished with time. :-)
--Marshall
Poop eatin is CAUSED by your ineffective inapupriate
miserable stinkin bribing crating and HOWEsbreakin
methods and can be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY.
LIKE THIS:
Here's FIVE cases of COPROPHAGIA
CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOIN EVERYTHING
EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE you pathetic
miserable stinkin lyin animal murderin MENTAL CASES PREFER.
<SNIP POSTED CASE HISTORIES>
> and whining. incessantly.
Whining is a SYMPTOM of bein UNHAPPY, you pathetic
miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal murderin mental case.
You can EXXXTINGUISH whining NEARLY INSTANTLY
simply by PRAISING him. HOWEver, you WON'T, on
accHOWENTA you think that'll REWARD his whining.
So, you'll MURDER him INSTEAD, JUST LIKE HOWE you
done to your last TWO DEAD RESCUE dogs <{}: ~ ( >
> and generally driving me insane.
Sorry elegy, your own POSTED CASE HISTORY of
INSANITY predates Harvey by several decades, in
fact, it goes back to your early childhood, you pathetic
miserable stinkin malignant incurable manic depressive
mental case.
> i took him in to work last week because of the whining
> and the pooping and the pooping and the whining.
Yeah. LUCKY THING we can EXXXTINGUISH that
NEARLY INSTANTLY withHOWET MURDERIN him
like HOWE you done your last two DEAD dogs <{}: ~ ( >
> i was worried about his eye pressure. his eye pressure is fine.
You mean on accHOWENTA you had his eye REMOVED.
> his physical exam was normal.
Naaaah?
> maybe he's just gone 'round the bend.
No, you're driving him INSANE JUST LIKE HOWE
you done your last two DEAD dogs <{}: ~ ( >
> is it wrong that i want to try him on prozac?
No, it's INSANE.
Accordin to the manufacturer Prozac is less than 65%
effective even when used in conjunction with behavior
modification. Of curse, their BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION
is HOWE COME dogs have ANXXXIHOWESNESS
ATTACKS like Harvey is havin.
> don't get me wrong,
BET YOUR LIFE ON IT.
THAT'S HOWE COME I CITE your own POSTED CASE HISTORIES.
> for as much as i complain about him (incessantly!)
And he's returning the favor. JUST LIKE HOWE them last two
DEAD DOGS YOU MURDERD FOR THE SAME REASON
done pryor to you MURDERIN them.
> i do love the guy.
INDEEDY! THAT'S HOWE COME you animal murderin
mental cases like to give the last gift of MURDERIN your dogs.
> how could you not, with a fat head like that?
His head wouldn't be swollen if you didn't choke him.
> but harvey + my job is equalling more stress
> than i'm up to dealing with right now!
PERHAPS you should get HOWETA the RESCUE business?
Maybe this'll heelp?:
HOWEDY elegy you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute
chronic life long incurable malignant mental case Pit
Bull RESCUER and SNUFF TRAINER,
"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 14:37:05 -0500, "Mike D"
> <mikd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> no matter what you say about PETA, the fact remains that if
>> you buy a puppy instead of adopting an adult dog, a dog will
>> die which would have lived if you had adopted it. I have no
>> big qualms with people saying, 'well, i don't care; i want a
>> puppy and nevermind saving a needy and less than premium
>> dog' and then doing that- at least they have honesty.
>> What we have, instead though, is cowardly human hypocrisy,
>> where you(and others) say 'well, I don't believe that stuff about
>> how buying a puppy condemns another dog'.
>> This is a lie, in your heart you know that it is, and the worst part
is,
>> moral cowards teach lies like this to their children. If the shoe fits,
>> wear it.
>> mike.
> if people didn't overbreed dogs, sup****t puppy mills and backyard
> breeders, allow their pets to breed "accidentally" and dump their
> acquired dogs in the shelter or onto the streets, there wouldn't be
> dogs dying in the shelters in the first place.
So long as ETHICKAL breeders BREED, there'll be dogs in "shelters"
gettin MURDERED by DOG LOVERS like elegy <{}: ~ ( >
> it is NOT MY FAULT that there are dogs being killed in the shelters.
RIGHT. elegy MURDERS hers at her own vet's office.
> i have never produced a single puppy. i have never dumped a single dog.
elegy MURDERED her last TWO "RESCUE" dogs.
> if i choose to go to a responsible breeder who is not contributing
> to the shelter problem, that does NOT put blood on my hands.
Sez a lyin animal murderin CHRONIC LIFE LONG INCURABLE
MALIGNANT MALICIHOWES MENTAL CASE <{}: ~ ( >
> and no, i have never purchased a puppy or a dog, and all three of my
> dogs here have come from shelters or rescues as adults. but that is
> utterly beside the point.
Here's the POINT:
> --
> http://underdogged.net
> x-no-archive:yes in headers
HOWEDY elegy you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute
chronic life long incurable malignant mental case Pit
Bull RESCUER and SNUFF TRAINER,
"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> wrote:
>"filly" <johnhe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:H1idj.6441$oh5.5932@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> "elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:7i8bn3pi336q8sgb22ao5vscnp1j5mr9kl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > just because i have nothing better to do with myself.
Perhaps you should consider suicide?
>>> > mushroom crazy face barky dog
>>> > <http://shattering.org/images/mushroomcrazyeye.jpg>
Like Luce <{}: ~ ( >
Seems all of elegy's fear aggressive dogs are hyperactive.
>>> > luce can haz cookie?
>>> > <http://shattering.org/images/eleusisnosey.jpg>
>>> > three dogs, one really poor photo.
>>> > <http://shattering.org/images/threeamigos2.jpg>
To heel with the peectures. Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzBtxevvcFs&mode=user&search=
>>> I think taking dog photos is a fine way to spend your time.
It's probably better than self cutting.
>>> Luce looks particularly fetching in her blue sweater,
INDEEDY. HOWEver, she seems nekkid withHOWET her
pronged spiked pinch choke or shock collar <{}: ~ ( >
>>> I like the casual way it drapes across her back.
Yeah, "casual"...
>> Karla said it all perfectly! Right down to Luce' blue sweater.
>> I would love to see you walk your pack sometime. I'll bet you
>> get so many *second looks*. ;-)
Oh, INDEEDY!
And then she calls animal CON-TROLL to re****t the onlookers.
>> They are a handsome crew.
> i don't ever walk them all together.
Naaaah?
> i've had too many run-ins with loose dogs
Naaaah?
> and there's no way i can control three dogs
Naaaaah? Despite your pronged spiked pinch choke an shock collars??
> plus somebody else's dog.
If you could CON-TROLL your own fear aggressive
hyperactive dogs you wouldn't need to CON-TROLL
anyWON else's dog. NO dog or human in their right
mind would challenge a nice pack of Pit Bulls and
their gentle owner walkin DHOWEN the street together.
> i simply do not have enough hands. i'll walk luce and harv
> or mushroom and harv, but not all three, and not luce and
> mushroom together.
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> i've just been in too many scary situations.
Oh, you mean like when your fear aggressive hyperactive
dogs GO INSANE on your neighbor's dogs?
LIKE THIS:
HOWEDY elegy you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute
chronic life long incurable malignant mental case and
Pit Bull RESCUER,
"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:11:55 -0800, Henry <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Mixed terrier *****, 30#, about 5 years old, rescued.
>> Good health, only one bad habit: attacks!
>> Can a shock collar be used to retrain this rescue that attacks
>> other dogs? So far she's not a biter but a barker/lunger, but if
>> this cannot be "fixed" she'll become unrescued. That would
>> be a pity because in other respects she's a fine dog, and with
>> people, she's wonderful.
>
> putting a shock collar on a dog-aggressive dog is a pretty horrible
idea.
You mean, Vs puttin a shock collar on a
fearful / shy dog like your own, elegy?
> what other methods of retraining have you tried?
Well, you can BET he ain't tried MURDERIN his dog YET,
like HOWE you done your own last TWO DEAD "RESCUE"
dogs. REMEMBER, elegy?
> for my two dog-aggressive dogs, one was fear-based,
ALL aggression is FEAR, elegy. THAT'S HOWE COME
you MURDERED your own last TWO DEAD "RESCUE"
dogs. REMEMBER, elegy?
> so i used a lot of desensitization and rewarding for calm behavior.
That so? And yet you SEZ "neither is "fixed" in that
they're not trustworthy off-leash around strange dogs,"
so WHAT'S YOUR POINT, elegy? Are you a glutton
for PUNISHMENT every time you post your lies insanity
and idiocy to my forums?
> the other is just a *****y dog-aggressive pit bull,
THAT'S INSANE, elegy. Here's your own "*****y dog-aggressive
pit bull" GOIN INSANE from your "desensitization and rewarding
for calm behavior" on your PRONGED SPIKED PINCH CHOKE
COLLAR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzBtxevvcFs&mode=user&search=
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> so i've done a lot of work on self-control and attention.
THAT'S ABSURD. Your "attention" trainin means you offer
BRIBES to make your dog LOOK AT YOU instead of the
other critters she FEARS which makes your dog AGRESS
in order to GET THE COOKIE you're withHOWELDIN.
> neither is "fixed" in that they're not trustworthy off-leash around
> strange dogs, but nor are they problems leashed in pubic spaces.
Well that's just plain NOT TRUE, elegy. You recently called
animal CON-TROLL at least two times on your neighbor's
dogs when you ran across them ON LEASH in your neighborhood
and your own dogs who are "nor are they problems leashed in
pubic spaces" WENT INSANE. REMEMBER, elegy?
Well elegy, I AIN'T gonna dig up them "OLD POSTS" from last
month. We'll just move along to you HURTIN INTIMIDATIN an
MURDERIN your own last two DEAD rescue dogs and then into
you own POSTED CASE HISTORY of INCURABLE MENTAL
ILLNESS.
But first, would you answer just WON question, please, elegy?
HOWE COME would you set your INFORMATIVE posts to
EXXXPIRE in six days, elegy? Are you EMBARRASSED
by your own words, you lyin animal murderin punk thug coward
mental case fraud an SCAM ARTIST?
matty aka Rocky EXXXPLAINS HOWE COME:
"Rocky" <2d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
For reasons I'll only explain privately, I've gone no
archive, and it's a shame. Once in a while, while
looking for something else, I'll run into an old post
of mine. What an idiotic response! Whoops.
BWEEEAAAHAHAAAHAAHAAA!~!~!
And NHOWE, let's get on with the elegy murderin
her own DEAD RESCUE dogs SHOWE:
On Oct 26, 6:06 pm, elegy <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:27:15 +0200 (CEST), Anonymous
> <nob...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Puppy is about 7 months old. I'm trying to teach him "come."
> > Sometimes he does it fine. Other times, he just sits there, looks
>> at me and ignores me. It is extremely frustrating.
That ain't hardly as frustrating as MURDERIN your own
last TWO DEAD "RESCUE" dogs on accHOWENTA you
ABUSED them, is it, elegy, you pathetic miserable stinkin
lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute
chronic life long incurable mental case.
> this is my favorite link for teaching a reliable recall
> <http://www.****rleychong.com/keepers/Lesson6.html>
Yeah? Your friend Mistress ****rley is a B&D/S&M SPECIALIST
who can't train the come command withHOWET her trusty SHOCK
COLLAR you pathetic lyin animal murderin ignorameHOWES:
Here's your PAL, MISTRESS ****rly chong,
crapHOWES CLICKER TRAINER:
"To be effective as a positive punisher, I set the level
of shock at a level high enough (in my best guesstimation)
to be unpleasant to the dog. I want the dog to startle a
bit and even yelp when they get shocked.
No, this is not pleasant.
After each shock, I call the dog again (because many
dogs tend to panic when something mysteriously reaches
out and stings them)."
But don't go away yet, my pretty flying monkey, there's MOORE:
"If the dog is still refusing the recall, then I escalate my
aversive a bit--usually, to taking two big handfuls of ruff
as I move backwards.
Some dogs do get "long line wise.""
No, some trainers are just long line stupid.
You can't force a dog to come.
"That is, they never refuse a recall while on the long line
but when the long line is gone, they are unreliable even if
the handler started with close recalls off lead in a familiar
(and safely fenced) area."
That's because you can't teach compliance with force no
matter HOWE gently you try to force. ANY force, even verbal
intimidation, will cause the opposition reflex to compel the
dog to do other than what you want.
Too bad you sharp trainers here don't understand that. It's
called positive thigmotaxis, and it's just as valid with a
choke collar as it is with a mental attitude. Force causes
the dog to not respond.
"IF the dog never ever refuses a recall while on the long
line, no matter what the distraction (and I am pretty good
at devising distractions for this test!), then I move to a
shock collar."
That's a competent clicker trainer, by golly!
Where do you people come off with that kind of crap?
Here's Miss ****rly, the CLICKER TRAINER you recommended to us:
Newsgroups: soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm
From: M ****rley Chong <eithne @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:16:30 -0500
Subject: Re: OT Big dog problem. Serious help needed
MasterofDelight wrote:
> Welcome back, and it sure did not take you long to pick up on
> the dog training thread. As you can see, you commentary was missed.
Thanks!
Yes, there's nothing more likely to lure me out of lurk
mode than a training question. I'd planned to lurk for
a couple weeks to get up to speed again but before I
knew it, the keyboard was rattling.
> OB:bdsm Do you give advice on "puppy training" too?
Sure! I may not have a clue as to what I'm talking
about but that never stops me.
****rley eithne @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.****rleychong.com
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From: M ****rley Chong <eit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:48:53 -0500
Subject: Re: pregnancy and S&M?
dionysiangrrrl wrote:
> I just learned I'm pregnant, and while in most respects, I find it to be
> excellent news, I'm a little concerned about play time. I'm a fairly
heavy
> masochist used to frequent beatings and torture, and have held back from
> play so far until I get a little more advanced, just to be safe. But if
I
> make it healthily through the first trimester, does anyone have any
advice
> for pregnancy whompings? (Besides the fairly obvious "no more gut
> punches" rule :)
Congratulations!
My advice is to ask your doctor. Because your doctor is the
one who knows your specific conditions, because there's a
lot of advice out there of varying quality (including this!)
and because it's im****tant to have peace of mind that you
are doing the right thing at a time like this.
Most doctors have heard it all. If they haven't heard it all,
they should have. <G> If you have reason to believe that your
doctor may react badly then maybe that's an indication this
isn't the doctor for you.
Better to find this out now rather than when you are in
labor and not in the mood to holler at some rank narrow
mindedness and unable to gather your dignity and march out.
Those hospital gowns just don't cut it for dignified exits
unless you back out the door and then there's the little
problem of who is out in the hall.
Much easier in the long run to tell the truth.
****rley
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From: redneckpai...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Joe Sergio)
Date: 17 Apr 2004 00:51:40 GMT
Subject: Re: OT Big dog problem. Serious help needed
JK said:
> Gee, let's see, why not take your dogs to a training school
> or ask your local police how they do it with their dogs?!
Ive already called the K9 officer in my town.
Left a message. He will get in touch with me.
> And I don't know do you think maybe slapping your dogs
> around so much and living with them, I mean all that
> attention you are giving them might just have something to
> do with why they like you and your family more than the
> neighbors?
I don't slap them around so much. I'll pop em, and all
when they do something wrong, and fuss at em. But I have
found something even better to make them stop what they
are doing.
A dustbuster. Just turn it on. Or show it to them. They
hate any type of va*** cleaner. It's worked about keeping
Jake out of the garbage. I sat in the kitchen a whole day,
and every time he went to the garbage can and went to stick
his head in, I turned it on. He stopped that.
Mainly I just pet them. They lay there by my chair and I
reach down and scratch them. They get up in the chair with
me. Tha'ts not easy when they are that big. But they still
think they are puppies. I do spoil them sometimes, but they
are my boys, and I love them.
> Hey, but this is the SSBB clearinghouse and you know the brain
> bucket is just outside and we do expect you to leave your brain
> there first before you post your problems here. Afterall, we all know
> that SSBB has all the answers you need for all your problems. Don't
> bother picking up your phone and calling around 'cause you got the
> good ole SSBB to help solve your problems.
You dumbass, I did call around and ask some advice from
other folks as well first. I posted it here because Miss
****rley trains dogs, and there are a few folks here who
know more about it than I do.
Why do you try to turn every post you reply to into a noncon
humiliation scene with you topping? Could it be that this is
the only action your getting? LOL
> Time to fetch your brain. Come on boy you can do it. There you go.
I'd ask you to fetch yours, but I don't think you can
see something that small without a microscope.
--
Joe
Suck a lifesaver today, put a fireman in your mouth.
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From: M ****rley Chong <eit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004
Subject: Re: OT Big dog problem. Serious help needed
Katharine H. wrote:
> He does pretty well in his "walking gear" -- which is what the prong
> and leash are. When I put the prong collar and leash on, he still
shows
> other aggression behaviors to new men in the house but does not lunge
> (because he doesn't tighten his leash on the prong.) I think he does
> pretty well with the leash behaviors (given he's got a run-of-the-mill
> owner-type).
What other sorts of behaviours does he show?
> He is mostly fine when we are off the property. He still must stay
> leashed, but the only people he shows aggression to are fly fisherman
> (something about the gear freaks him out) and other dogs. Other people
> he basically ignores. My biggest issue are other dog owners whose dogs
> are off leash and want to come up and say hello. My beast will play
well
> with a dog who submits, but will fight with one who doesn't.
I have a solution for that one. When some clueless idjit
allows their dog to come up to mine, I call over sweetly
"don't worry, the vet doesn't think he's infectious anymore."
A carryover from my years showing horses when idjits leading
a horse down the aisle of a barn would let their horse poke
it's head into my horse's stall. I'd grab a bottle of Ring-Ex
(ringworm medication) and start spritzing ostentatiously. And
mention that my vet thought we had the infestation cleared up.
I never mentioned that the bottle was full of plain water. <G>
If I'm not in a nice mood, I just scare the bejeebers out
of the oncoming dog to send it away. When they say "but
he's friendly" I say "well, I'm not." My dogs never have
to defend themselves on leash. I think they sort of enjoy
seeing me chase other dogs away, there's a certain smugness
in the way they lean against me while looking at the other dog.
> Bottom line though... this dog is killing my *** life because I can't
> introduce men into the house and I've been in the mood for men the past
> several months. I don't know what the hell I'm doing, so I've called a
> local trainer and she's going to teach me how to more effectively deal
> with the beast before I figure it's time to enter a monastary :-) This
dog
> is so docile with me... the contrast in behaviors is amazing.
Nooooo, not the monastary! Your scene re****ts are
incredibly good and would be a loss to pervkind.
****rley
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From: M ****rley Chong <eit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:38:40 -0500
Subject: Re: OT Big dog problem. Serious help needed
I'm piggybacking from Nicole Diver:
> Katharine H. writes: "This is my new tactic -- my 3 yr old rottie/lab
mix
> has become *extremely* aggressive when new people, in particular men,
> come onto his territory. All people who are coming to my home for the
> first time are warned to expect aggression. They are then given the
option
> of dealing with the dog or not. If the new guests are not "dog people" I
> will make the choice for them and the dog will stay in the backyard
while
> I have people over. If they do want to make friends with the dog, then
the
> dog goes on a leash and prong collar when they enter the house. When I
> let them in, he is snarling, lunging, etc. As soon as the treats come
out
> it's a whole new ballgame. The pup sits and wags his tail and is ready
to
> make friends. It generally takes time for him to warm up to new men."
Katherine, I have nothing against the use of prong collars
and recommend them when I feel it is appropriate. Just like
any tool, there are situations when a prong collar is the
best tool for a job and there situations where a prong
collar is the worst tool for a job.
Prong collars do tend to magnify a dog's aggressive tendencies.
If the dog is at all inclined to bite unreasonably, the prong
collar will often send it right over the edge.
<snip BD/SM and proceed directly to MURDER>
Re: homer bit me :(
"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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ago and far away, Mary Healey <mhhea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> did say:
>elegy <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
>news:1m6nt2l1m8uiepjg04slfa9hg33ig1h7ta@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> i'm really disappointed in myself, because i wigged out on him for it,
> I'm not sure you should be. Maybe it's because I'm used to dogs that'll
> keep pu****ng barriers just to find the limits (if any), but the bottom
> line is that Homer did something completely unacceptable (for whatever
> good and justified reason) and discovered that, yes, there is an upper
> boundary beyond which his new human gets a bit testy. That's a good
> thing for a dog of any age to learn.
i worry that he reacted out of fear
and i gave him more reason to fear.
luce is a huge barrier-pusher. i've wigged out
on her a few times, too, and that i don't think
was necessarily a bad thing. but with this guy,
because he's kinda timid and i think kinda
fearful, i feel bad about.
>> i put him in his crate until i calmed down enough to not do
>> anything else stupid.
> Well, see, you learned something valuable. Homer learned
> something valuable. It's all good. Neither of you will need
> to repeat this particular lesson. I hope so, anyway.
i put a harness on him and he seems much more
comfortable with having that held. he simply
cannot be handle-less until he learns things like
come, stay, and to go in his crate.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
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> i really recommend you find a good trainer
Oh, like HOWE you done for your own fear
aggressive DEAD "RESCUE" dog Homer?
> who is familiar with desensitization and dog-aggression,
Oh, you mean LIKE THIS:
Homer 1994 - 03.01.2007"
brothers and sisters i bid you beware
of giving your heart to a dog to tear
i put homer to sleep yesterday.
it was quite possibly the hardest thing i've ever done.
monday night i was trying to teach him to down using a
food lure. he wasn't getting it, so i put a hand on him to
try to encourage him to down. he attacked me, biting me
twice on the hand, and then when i stood up and backed
away, he came after me more and bit me on the leg as well.
i was shocked and devestated and a hundred other things.
i ended up emailing my trainer (who has turned out to be a
very kind friend) and she called me and i spent an hour on
the phone with her crying. she doesn't deal with aggression
cases, but she listened to me and talked me down. i hardly
slept that night.
tuesday i took homer in to work with me and had the vet
feel his neck. i didn't think it was a reaction due to pain
but i had to check it out. the vet put his hands on the sides
of homer's head and manipulated his head around. homer
didn't show any signs of pain or discomfort. he went
through the motions some more.
homer flipped out, with no warning, extremely violently. it
took him a long time (it felt like a lifetime. it was probably
around 3 minutes) to calm down enough that the vet could
take his hands off of homer without anybody getting hurt.
i went home for lunch and called a behaviorist. i spent a lot
of the day reading the brenda aloff aggression book and the
karen overall behavior book.
that night the behaviorist called me and i told her what had
happened and she asked questions and i answered them as
best i could.
she gave him a pretty poor prognosis.
everything that she said made sense to me, and nothing
she said was earth-shattering or even really anything
that i didn't already know.
this morning i took him in and held him close and cried into
his fur and told him how much i love him and let him go.
he was a dangerous dog. he bit unpredictably and with no
warning. he was a love, a snugglebug, a sweet sweet dog
as long as you didn't do anything he didn't want done. but
if you tried to "make" him do something he didn't want to
do, all bets were off. his reaction could be a snap or it could
be an over-the-top meltdown.
i couldn't live with a dog like that.
i *will not* live with a dog like that.
i've spent the last three days crying my eyes out. i never
imagined i could get that attached to a dog who i had for
all of 12 days and who bit me several times during those
12 days.
but i was. i loved him.
i loved him ferociously, but i had to let him go.
for his sake.
for my sake.
for the sake of luce and mushroom.
i feel horrible. heartbroken. guilty. angry.
and yet i don't regret him, not for one moment,
despite how things turned out.
Replies: 2 comments
i'm sorry, but human aggression is a deal-breaker, especially
unpredictable, unwarned human-aggression. there is too much
at stake and too much to lose.
Posted by e @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
03/26/2007 06:49 AM EST
You were just as unpredictable to Homer.
Shame on you for giving him only 12 days.
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> and work with them.
You mean like HOWE you done, elegy?
> how long have you had this dog?
That's IRRELEVENT, elegy. You MURDERED
your DEAD RESCUE dog Homer in less than
two weeks <{}: ~ ( >
elegy MURDERED her little DEAD Poodle "RESCUE"
DOG instead of simply PRAISING her for BEING
AFRAID and havin PAINICK ATTACKS JUST LIKE
HOWE she MURDERED her DEAD "RESCUE" dog
Homer *(who SOMEHOWE managed to LIVE to 12
years of age withHOWET HEELP from a RESCUER)
on accHOWENTA IT didn't LIKE being jerked an
choked and intimidated.
> My heart went out to that elderly dog, being dumped in a
> shelter at this stage of his life. Losing not only his only
> known home, but his owner at the same time. :(
Yeah, THAT'S HOWE COME elegy took in an freakin
MURDERED her LAST TWO DEAD "RESCUE DOGS".
HOWEDY elegy,
I been buildin a ramp myself, for you an your PALS!
"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> my little poodle was ancient and skinny as could be. she
> wore a sweater in the house in the winter, a t-****rt in
> spring and fall, and had a fleece coat to wear outside in
> winter, but she sure never turned down a walk.
AND THEN YOU MURDERED IT FOR BEIN AFRAID.
LIKE THIS:
"elegy" <e...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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never meant to own a poodle. i used to take those
online "what breed of dog is right for you tests"
and get poodle and go back and change my answers.
i especially never meant to own a little poodle.
sometimes life turns out to be the last thing you expect.
the first time i met her i had just started working
overnights by myself. she was hospitalized with
pneumonia and an ugly anal gland abscess. she
barked and carried on and peed in her cage every
twenty minutes and pretty much drove me crazy
all night and i absolutely couldn't stand her.
then one of our doctors brought her back to the
hospital for good. her owner had alzheimers and
had to go into a home, and pam said she'd take
siren and try to find her a home. the womans
other dog was an easy rehome- a 2 year old mini
poodle, cute as a button. but siren was 16, senile,
with advanced heart disease, not great kidneys,
full cataracts in both eyes, and no potty training
whatsoever.
she stayed about 2 months in the kennels. she
grew on me. i would leave her out with me at
night so she'd get some exercise and some
attention. one night i mentioned to the vet who
had brought her in that i wished i could take
her but was afraid i couldn't afford her.
she'd need multiple medications, regular bloodwork,
x-rays, etc. the vet offered to pay for her medical bills
if i'd give her a good home.
she told me she didn't expect siren to live more than
a year. she lasted 18 months and 4 days. she could
have kept going physically. but her little brain had
just run out. the past two weeks she's just been terrible.
she was pacing nonstop and wouldn't or couldn't stop.
i'd pick her up and try to bring her back to bed and
quiet her down, and her legs would just keep pacing
as i held her.
she was getting lost and stuck in corners, and at walls,
and in weird places i can't figure out how she got into.
she hardly knew where she was or what was going on
anymore.
and when i asked her what she wanted, all i got was
an overwhelming feeling of apathy.
so i took her in tonight after appointments and we
put her to sleep. it was one of the hardest decisions
i've ever had to make.
i think i've been crying for a week. i thought i was
cried out, but when the vet was giving her the
injection and started crying,
i lost it.
i'm home now and just feel so empty. i have to
figure out what to do with all her things. her bed.
her coats. i feel so lost.
they got me beautiful flowers at work and i keep
looking at them and tearing up again because i
am just so touched.
she was a special dog and she touched a lot of
people's lives. i miss her very much.
goodnight my little space princess. sleep sweet
and remember me in your dreams.
<http://escape.nightsfall.net/shudder/images/sirensun****ne.jpg>
> ---
> petey was a pit bull.
> http://shattering.org
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"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> long ago and far away, Darla Vladschyk <Darla4...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> did say:
>On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 10:44:47 -0500, elegy
><el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> everything is going swimmingly....
>
> Oh my gosh he's a handsome dude, and I am glad to
> hear that everyone is settling down and settling in!
> Good for you!
thanks. i'm amazed by how quickly he settled in here,
to be honest. i thought it was going to take much longer
for the young dogs to settle down around him.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
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02/25/2007: "the new dog."
Last saturday i adopted a 12 1/2 year old mixed breed dog from a local
shelter. my best guess is pit bull x beagle (does that make him a
piggle?). there's definitely beagle in there. anyway, he was at the
shelter because his owners got divorced. it was so cold there and he
was so sad and ****vering and it was just terrible. it took me a long
time and several trips to see him before i made a decision, but in the
end, i had to save him.
so homer is here now, 18" at the shoulder, a skinny 37 pounds. he's
doing great. it was a little rocky at the beginning, because the wild
young dogs want to play with him, and he doesn't appreciate their
demolition derby style of play. everybody's getting used to everybody
else though, now, and life is much more peaceful. homer's favorite
thing in the world is the red dog bed in my livingroom.
he's such a great dog. old dogs are so often overlooked in the
shelter, but he's fantastic. he's housebroken, quiet in the crate,
polite on a leash, friendly with people, tolerent of other dogs,
doesn't bark, doesn't chew, just wants to snuggle. i am so glad he's
here.
and he's got cool ears.
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Re: homer bit me :(
"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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ago and far away, Mary Healey <mhhea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> did say:
>elegy <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
>news:1m6nt2l1m8uiepjg04slfa9hg33ig1h7ta@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> i'm really disappointed in myself, because
>> i wigged out on him for it,
>
> I'm not sure you should be. Maybe it's because
> I'm used to dogs that'll keep pu****ng barriers
> just to find the limits (if any), but the bottom
> line is that Homer did something completely
> unacceptable (for whatever good and justified
> reason) and discovered that, yes, there is an
> upper boundary beyond which his new human
> gets a bit testy. That's a good thing for a dog
> of any age to learn.
i worry that he reacted out of fear
and i gave him more reason to fear.
luce is a huge barrier-pusher. i've wigged out
on her a few times, too, and that i don't think
was necessarily a bad thing. but with this guy,
because he's kinda timid and i think kinda
fearful, i feel bad about.
>> i put him in his crate until i calmed down
>> enough to not do anything else stupid.
>
> Well, see, you learned something valuable.
> Homer learned something valuable. It's all
> good. Neither of you will need to repeat this
> particular lesson. I hope so, anyway.
i put a harness on him and he seems much more
comfortable with having that held. he simply
cannot be handle-less until he learns things like
come, stay, and to go in his crate.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
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"(38) golden rule of pit bull owner****p"
never trust a pit bull not to fight.
we need to remember where these dogs came
from, what image we created them in.
we designed these dogs as the ultimate canine gladiators,
faced them off in combat, selected for those who won.
we humans have been doing this selective dog breeding
thing for a long time. we're good at it.
and the result, with pit bulls, is dogs who will fight to the death,
dogs who will not back down, dogs who fight to win. period. because
it's instinct.
so when we keep multiple dogs together, multiple pit bulls especially,
there's always some risk. it's im****tant to be careful, to be
vigilant, to take precautions, and to accept that there's always the
possibility of something happening and the responsibility of taking
care of it.
my dogs are never together unsupervised. if they're outside, i'm with
them. if i'm not home, they're crated. i'd prefer it be otherwise, but
it's not safe. 99% of the time they're great together. they adore each
other. they snuggle with each other. they play with each other.
but every once in awhile tempers flare. every once in awhile
they have a go at each other. it's never come to anything serious- a
bit of blood, dogs who have had to be separated- but when it was over
it's always been over.
but someday it could be otherwise. people who keep multiple pit bulls
always live with the chance that one day those dogs won't get along,
that one day the winds will change and they'll have two dogs who
cannot be together, period. there are people who make households work
with separated dogs. i don't envy them one bit. it can't be easy.
so i take what precautions i can, stop what fights i can before they
start. i only give extremely valuable goodies like fresh bones when
the dogs are in their crates (used bones are fine loose). i don't
allow humping or any blatant dominance displays. normal behavior?
sure. a big fight trigger? you better believe it. so it doesn't happen
here. because i said so.
and i keep my fingers crossed and hope that we will always have peace
and two puppies piled in my bed at night happily snoring.
Replies: 3 comments
I have to keep mine seperated sometimes, but it's not constant or
definate. If one is having a bad day, they're in one place and the
others are somewhere else.
Posted by dublin___sky @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
07/30/2006 03:47 AM EST
it must suck bigtime.
if it came to that with my dogs, my parents would
probably take mushroom for me, but it'd break my heart.
Posted by elegy @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
07/30/2006 03:40 AM EST
Newsgroups: alt.sup****t.depression
From: "K" <CATLOV...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:24:15 GMT
Subject: why is it
that people think that the things that you think about and tell them
about are never bad enough to be the cause of what you're feeling?
oh he didn't do this or do that. well it means a lot to a two year
old. or a ten year old.
or a mother who denies that things are bad. is it some kind of
competition for sadness? or abandonment? i want someone to tell me
this.
~K, confused and in melancholy
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From: "Fiona E. McClellan" <Fio...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:14:29 -0500
Subject: Re: why is it
K wrote:
> i jsut want her to listen and actually HEAR me. not who
> or what she wants to hear, but me, me for who i am and
> what's been done to me.
I hear this. I could have written this.
And my mother will probably never hear me.
Fiona
--
If we had no winter, the spring would not be so pleasant: if we did
not sometimes taste the adversity, prosperity would not be so
welcome.-- Anne Bradstreet, Meditations Divine and Moral, 1664
Newsgroups: alt.sup****t.depression
From: "K" <CATLOV...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 21:31:34 GMT
Subject: Re: why is it
> I agree, things mean a lot to children, and affect us
> more than we sometimes want to admit. Denial by
> mothers is also very difficult.
> It is not a competition, not at all. There is more than
> enough sadness to go around in the world, alas. Your
> sadness is as valid and as im****tant as anyone else's.
> I wish I had more and better words of comfort for you
> today.
> But I'm listening and I care.
> Fiona
i just wish things had turned out differently between us.
~K
"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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is going swimmingly. the biting issue has been resolved
with a harness, but he's also learning/listening to commands better,
so there's not really much need to
physically direct him now, which is good.
he's sleeping upstairs on a dogbed on my bedroom floor at night
instead of in his crate, he's eating better (though he still takes for
freaking ever) and things have settled down so that it's not such a
three ring circus here. i am grateful.
this morning i invited him up on the bed for a snuggle and he hopped
up, spun around, flopped down, rolled on his back, and gazed at me so
adoringly. i am so glad he is here.
<http://shattering.org/images/homer****trait.jpg>
you know what's funny? i didn't meet him out of the kennel the first
time i saw him because he was humping his blanket non-stop and that
kinda grossed me out. he doesn't hump anything here.
my only gripes about him is that he's a wandering pooper, and that his
nails are so freaking disgustingly long but i can't take more than a
tiny sliver off the ends because his quicks are also so freaking long.
poor guy.
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And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
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SEE? SEE?? SEE???
"Ye shall know the truth,
and the truth shall make you mad." -
~Aldous Huxley.
"Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
"Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain!"
-Friedrich Schiller.
INDEEDY.
AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!
In Love And Light,
I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours,
The WORLD'S CRUELEST Trainer,
Jerry Howe,
The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
M-A-J-E-S-T-I-C
G-R-A-N-D
M-A-S-T-E-R
Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Ferret, Goat, Monkey
SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ;~ ) >
HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >
Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092 (Call ANY TIME)
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard
E-mail:
Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory
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