HOWEDY tommy sorensen aka not so handsome,
not so happy, not so gentle, not so manly, jackass,
not even jack morrison aka joey finnochiarrio aka
howie lip****z aka BIG DADDY aka DOGMAN,
a.k.a. *****MAN, you pathetic miserable stinkin
anonymHOWES malignant maliciHOWES lyin dog
child an spHOWES abusing punk thug coward active
accute chronic life long incurable mental case and
paranoid homophobe, misogynist, puppy miller and
shock collar salesman,
"Handsome "Jack" Morrison" <handsomejackmorrison@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
message
news:j9eb44p7k62mh04le9juknk5fplp1l0e9c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:55:58 -0400, Julia Altshuler
> <jaltshuler@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>Handsome "Jack" Morrison wrote:
>>>
>>> Go back and read Leah's posts.
O.K., IF YOU INSIST, tommy <{}: ~ ) >
"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.
"I know this is a hard subject to bring up without starting the
whole cruelty thread again so I'll state my opinion once and
won't defend it further: any method can be cruel for some
dogs.
Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the
beginning, but we've come a long way since then.
She*trusts us now as I mentioned in a recent post.
Point is, she's been rewarded for coming, but she's
never been punished, even in the mildest way, for not coming.
Is it time for that?
What might I look for to tell?"
"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:McYnb.45145$ao4.106231@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> After talking with the vet yesterday and watching
> Cubbe all day today, I'm convinced that the shaking
> is behavioral, not physical. Naturally I'll continue
> keeping an eye on her, but when I add everything
> up, I don't see symptoms of anything neurological--
> and the vet agrees.
> --Lia
"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusSmall.WMV"
THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and
ASYLUM ESCAPEES.
BWEEEAAAHAHAHAAAA~!~!~!
"Cubbe Got Out In The Neighborhood Leashless: It Was
Horrible! I Let Cubbe Out In The Backyard With Her Usual
ZAP Collar - The 10 Year Old Child Went To Give Cubbe
A Hug She Gave A Snarl-Snap. I don't even think she broke
the kid's skin and as far as I'm concerned, it was the kid's own
fault. Jim ran out and got control of Cubbe right away. I got
Ellie some alcohol and a bandage. The scary thing is that,
even though the damage is minor, it does qualify as a bite
since Cubbe did mean to do it.
I guess I should just learn from it and never let Cubbe
greet someone like that again, but I'm horribly torn up.
I've said that I would never keep an aggressive dog. Now
the whole issue is so complicated. Cubbe is great even with
kids when we meet them in the neighborhood."
AND THEN Cubbe *(a NON Pit Bull )
ATTACKED TWO CHILDREN
standing in her SHOCK ZONE inside her HOWES
and an innocent child at the park, her boyfriend
and her veterinarian and an elderly dog
while on leash on the street!
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
>>> And spare the rest of us from the pain, eh?
O.K., tommy. That's PLENTY of FUN trainin with liea an Cubbe <{}: ~ ) >
>>> Phil Baby = Leah, but with "big, heavy hands."
liea is a LYIN DOG MURDERIN MENTAL CASE.
LIKE YOURSELF, tommy <{}: ~ ( >
>>Humph. You're allowed to play cat to his mouse and I'm not?
>
> Of course not. I think Phil Baby makes
> an absolutely wonderful chew toy!
That so, tommy?
> And everyone should get to play with it.
Let's you an me PLAY, eh, tommy?
> Did you see his reply to Mary?
You mean, PROFESSIONAL DOG TRAINER mary, tommy?:
mary wrote:
"I use him as a demonstration dog in obedience cl*****.
Sam started chasing cars at 10 weeks and never did stop.
Sam ate the complete works of Charles Dickens, a heating
pad, a brand new pair of gl*****, a baggie full of metal staples,
and a 3'x3' chunk of the kitchen linoleum. And the plugs off
many of the electrical appliances. And various personal bits
out of every pair of jeans and underwear I possessed."
"He did learn to control himself,"
"He did learn to control himself,"
"He did learn to control himself,"
Sam is why I'm "allergic" to puppies, but also why I
adore obnoxious adolescent dawgs. I dragged him to
obedience class when he was 6 months old, he dragged
me to obedience class (and agility class, and clicker
training class, and seminars, and show-n-gos, and fun
matches) for the next 4 years.
The world is a safer place now for dirty underwear and
plastic baggies.
I can go back to leaving the laundry basket on the floor.
And the trash cans. And I can remove my watch and set it
down without finding bits of its little crystal carcass in
Sam's crate. I won't have to flush Sam out from under the
dinner table, or eat with hot dogbreath steaming up my leg.
Heck, I still have an ACD who adores all people (also
not "normal" breed behavior!), but he's very breed-
typical in his attempts to control and "police" the
behavior of other dogs.
when Sam was injured in a scrap with Ranger I chose to
treat him at home - without veterinary care. Cost *was*
a consideration. He lost part of one ear, with the usual
impressive spattering of gore."
You mean he was DOG AGGRESSIVE, don't you, mary <{}: ~ ( >
BWEEEAAAHAHAHAAAA~!~!~!
"Left to his own devices, he'd be picking fights and
bossing everydoggy. That's why he's not left to his
own devices.
That's why he's not left to his own devices.
I wouldn't take Ranger to a dog park.
I have let him off lead, but only to play fetch
(he's ball obsessed) and never with strange dogs
around.
As for the yard, well, Ranger goes walkabout at will and cannot be
allowed outside without supervision. Duke spent a year as an outside
dog; he's developed some inappropriately proprietary feelings about
"his" yard. Just two reasons why unrestricted yard access may not be
suitable for some dogs.
He can be a gentleman, but I can't depend on it."
Ooooooh! SCARY, ain't it!
ALL aggression is FEAR. ALL FEAR is CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
>>I don't need to. All I need do is give you couple.
>>1) The handler can stand between me and the dog, and
>> then command him to sit.
That would be FORCED CON-TROLL.
>>2) The handler can walk the other way, tie him up or hand
>> him over to another handler (possibly his owner in this case),
>> and then begin our conversation.
THAT would be FORCED CON-TROLL.
> Gibberish and mumbo jumbo is what you get when you
> ask someone as dumb and as arrogant as Phil Baby is,
> to explain something he knows ZERO about.
Well tommy, *you know ALL abHOWET it*, don't you.
LET'S TALK BUSINESS, shall we, tommy?:
tommy wrote:
From: dog...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Dogman) Date: 1997/11/11
Subject: Re: Koehler's Usefulness--A Concluding *****sment
This, from a yellow-bellied coward who has TOTALLY refused
to engage me in debate, preferring mudslinging, hyperbole, distortion,
lies, exaggeration, and to take Koehler completely out of context,
instead.
What lying hypocrites these hand-wringers are!
------------------------
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> Stupidity and/or ignorance, coupled with arrogance,
> is a deadly cocktail.
Sounds delightful, tommy. Care for another?
> Most folks know when to keep their mouths shut and just listen.
INDEED? Seems like MOST folks here CAN'T TALK BUSINESS.
> But Phil Baby?
Phil got some EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS, tommy.
BUT YOU DON'T. You can TALK BUSINESS can't you, tommy?
> Not so much.
Yeah, HOWE COME, tommy?
MIGHT you be a FRAUD a LIAR and CON ARTIST?
>> I was having fun seeing how long he'd go on arguing with
>> everyone else while ignoring my polite requests.
That so?
> Lia, Phil Baby is not really interested in answering
> questions, debating, discussion, etc.
Of curse not. But YOU ARE, ain't you, tommy <{}: ~ ) >
> He's only interested in exploring the limits of his own
> rhetoric, which indeed appears to be rather limited.
You mean, discussin whether dogs can have self awarenes
and learn self CON-TROLL, tommy? That's EZ, tommy.
Self CON-TROLL is LEARNED through DEMONSTRATED
SELF DISCIPLINE:
From: "Jerry Howe" <jh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:11:29 GMT
Subject: What We Lose When We Leash
Hello People,
You decided to get a dog, and you already know you need to
get a leash. Most cities and towns require dogs in public be
leashed, and I don't suppose that's too much to expect. But
what happens when a puppy grows up on a leash?
The first thing most young pups will do is freeze in terror.
Sometimes it takes days or weeks for them to get used to
being restrained on lead.
It's not natural. Nature provides for the dog to want to be
close to the pack, they already have an invisible leash, so
to speak. That's the objective of the Family Leader****p
Exercise in the Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com
It is the physical contact and forced control of the lead, that
triggers positive thigmotaxis, the opposition reflex, which causes
dogs to NOT follow their instinct to follow YOU, their pack leader.
Every tug on the lead tell your pup to NOT go with you because
it's NOT FUN getting pulled. It's SCARY.
In order to control the dog properly, we need to STOP relying
on FORCE, and START RELYING ON BRAINS.
Almost everything we are taught about dog behavior is
incorrect from the dog's point of view, as THEY understand
Natural Law.
Our typical forced control approach to dog behavior violates
Natural Law, and challenges the dog's survival instinct, and
results in animosity, aggression, and "unwarranted" attacks
on family members, and the deaths of millions of dogs ...
Force training represents a major health crisis for humans and dogs
Your pal, Jerry "The PHONY," Howe. j;~}
You can get all the information you need to PROPERLY
handle and train your dog using non force, non
confrontational, scientific and psychological conditioning
and deconditioning techniques in the Wits' End Dog Training
Method manual available for free at http://www.doggydoright.com
The Wits' End Dog Training Method manual is provided
compliments of the BIOSOUND Scientific Elves as an
alternative to Doggy Do Right (and Kitty Will Too).
For additional FREE help for any dog or cat
behavior questions, please call or write.
Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092
http://www.doggydoright.com
Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
-Francis Bacon-
There are terrible people who, instead of solving a
problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who
come after. Who ever can't hit the nail on the head
should, please, not hit at all.
-Nietzsche-
The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems
are learned qualities.
The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the
learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once
challenged, develop and continue to grow, to make
him smarter.
The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on
praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and
timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition,
constant corrections, and scoling.
-Jerry Howe-
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