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Re: Bernese jumping on counters

by "Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory Jun 3, 2008 at 08:26 AM

HOWEDY soxfann,

"soxfann" <soxfann18@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> I have a beautiful male 18 month old Berner.  Fairly obedient
> (we have been to two separate cl*****, he did very well).

That so?

Noted trainer and author LeeCharlesKelley:


"LeeCharlesKelley" kelleymet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> Puppy cl***** are, generally speaking, detrimental to the
>>  learning process for both the puppy and the owner.

Leah:


> I'm speechless.
> And with this statement, any credibility you still had
> with me has been flushed down the toilet.


Okay, but if you're not still speechless, then explain why
more than 60% of Americans who take their dogs to a puppy
class re****t that the dog didn't learn anything and that
the experience was basically a waste of time and money?

LeeCharlesKelley


          ------------------- 


From: "LeeCharlesKelley" <kelleymet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:53:11 -0400
Subject: Re: Critical Socialization



> "LeeCharlesKelley" kelleymet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> Okay, but if you're not still speechless, then explain why
> more than 60% of Americans who take their dogs to a puppy
> class re****t that the dog didn't learn anything and that
> the experience was basically a waste of time and money?


Leah:


> That one's easy.  Because they didn't PRACTICE.


 <snip>


> if they don't continue to use what they learned after
> class, of course the dogs are going to regress.


"Of course?"  You have a pretty low opinion of a puppy's
ability to learn and remember, even though they do it all
the time with no repetitions and no regression.

Or just maybe they *didn't* regress.  Maybe they didn't really
learn anything in class because the kind of training you use is
DETRIMENTAL TO THE LEARNING PROCESS, as I stated earlier.


If it were real learning then the dogs
wouldn't, "of course" regress, would they?


Maybe you remember the example I gave of a dog at the
dog run who instantly learned a new behavior WHILE
PLAYING, and never forgot it.

Or the example I gave about my dog learning the command,
"Up the stairs!", once, just once, and has never regressed
or forgotten the lesson.

He'll still do it every single time, eleven years after he
learned it.  Hang on, I'm going to take him out in the hall
right now, where his expecation is to go DOWN the stairs,
not up, and I'm going to tell him, "Up the stairs!" to see
if he really does still remember it . . .

Yep, he went right up the stairs when I told him to,
so nope, he hasn't regressed.  I wonder why that is.

But then, I forgot: you believe that learning can't take
place without repetition, so "of course" the puppy will
regress if the owner doesn't keep up with the lessons.


That's only natural, right?  Wrong.


Maybe it's time to give credence to the idea that there's
another model of learning -- which comes naturally to all
animals -- and which doesn't require repetition or the
expectation that the learning will regress.


Just a thought . . .


From: "LeeCharlesKelley" <kelleymet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:57:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Critical



>"LeeCharlesKelley" kelleymet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> Yep, he went right up the stairs when I told him to,
> so nope, he hasn't regressed.  I wonder why that is.

Leah

:> Duh.  Because you USE the command regularly?


Who sez?  I've gone years without using it at all.


And you're forgetting the fact that a day or two after I
taught him the command (inside the apartment building
where we lived at the time), I was walking Fred along a
street on the way to the park.  I stopped in front of a
brownstone, a building we'd never been (and still haven't).

I gave him the command and he immediately obeyed it. The second
time in his life he heard it, he obeyed it, even though there was no
possible reason for him to do so, other than the fact that I told him
to.

 Why?

I also taught him once, just once, not to cross a curb
without me.  He hasn't forgotten that one either.

Why?


Leah:



> If the owner knows the method to stop the puppy from
> pulling on the leash, yet lets the puppy pull him all
> over the place, the puppy will not stop pulling on the
> leash.
> This is a no-brainer.


No, *this* is: If the puppy had actually been taught not
to pull on the leash, he would stop pulling on the leash.

I'm sure everyone here, if they thought about it, could
come up with their own examples (like the one I gave about
the dog learning a new behavior WHILE PLAYING in the
 dog run) of dogs they've observed learning a new behavior
 once, and never forgetting it.

  It's the most natural form of learning there is.


But it requires that the dog be in a high-level emotional
state when the learning takes place, which is something
that *can't* be accomplished  in a puppy class.


Puppy clases are, generally speaking, detrimental
to the learning process.


          ================


LeeCharlesKelley Wrote:



From what I've read of Jerry's method it incor****ates
a completely new model of learning, which is based
(in simplest terms) on the idea that all behavior is
the result of finding a way to relieve emotional tension.

This is true not just for dogs but all animals.

You don't believe in the validity of this particular model
of learning?  You don't think it makes sense?

 Fine, I guess.


But it makes total sense to me.


And it made sense to Pavlov, too,
though not many people know this.


"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement."
IOW, emotions, not outside rewards, are
what reinforces any behavior.


Finn once saw a small mouse come out of a hole
atthe base of a tree. Needless to say his prey
instinct kicked in BIG TIME and he chased it
back into the hole.  This was 7 years before
he died. Up until the very last time he walked
through that section of the park (an hour before
he went) he checked the base of that tree.


He saw that mouse exactly *once*....he never
saw it again. Don't we all have stories like
that?


Especially those of us with dogs whose prey drives are pretty intense?


And there are lots of examples that may not
even require the prey drive to be active,
just a strong desire to do something: a dog
who wants to escape from the back yard will
learn how to do it once and never forget it,
a dog who wants to jump on the couch or the
bed doesn't need any repetitions to "reinforce"
or re-learn the behavior.


If something is im****tant to a dog, he'll
learn how to do it.  Once he learns it, he
learns it.  The trick to getting him to
"unlearn" it, is to give him a more
emotionally satisfying replacement behavior.


With Oscar and the cat, the more satisfying
behavior was relating to me instead of the cat.
(He's a Lab, with a strong need for social
connections, so that was pretty easy.)


I've been experimenting recently with Jerry
Howe's method of using a sound distraction,
then praising the dog, without any physical
contact, for 15 seconds.


My initial reaction to his technique was that
it was silly to keep praising the dog that long.


I mean, Jerry's a nut, right?


But in every case except one, when I've followed
the exercise exactly, I've seen a definite
physiological change take place in the dog -
- yawning or stretching have been the usual
indicators -- and after only a few repetitions,
the dog often relaxes, curls up, and goes to sleep!


I've tried this on barking, counter-surfing,
separation anxiety, even two dogs who live
together and fight constantly.  I was pretty
amazed when I saw this little Boston give up
her aggression and start to yawn!


It's too early for me to be convinced that it
will work every single time with every single
dog, or that it will even have a lasting effect
on these dogs, but so far I think that it's
effective at reducing emotional tension, which,
as you know, I believe that all behavior comes
from the dog trying to find a way to reduce
emotional tension.  If you give the dog a
replacement behavior that successfully reduces
emotional tension, the first behavior will no
longer be necessary and the dog will stop doing it.


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   "James Roberts" <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
    news:3C637444.20DD6735@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   > I have downloaded and have read Jerry's Wit's End do***ent.
   >
   > Ignoring what you think of his participation, what
   > is your *****sment of the merits of his techniques?

    Paul B <pand...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
    news:3c638e36@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 James,
I have used his recommended techniques and
ideas with great success, and over the period
I've used these methods the more I've become
to understand and appreciate how his methods
work and how effective they can be if carried out
correctly.

His manual isn't conventional and as such gets
critisized and misunderstood. The basic concept
is to allow the dog to choose whatever behaviour
it wants for any situation but to distract (and
immediately praise ) it from behaviours we deem
undesirable, because of the correctly timed
distractions repeated usually about 4 times (in
each location) the dog decides of it own accord
that this behaviour is undesriable and therefore
pursues something else, if that behaviour is also
inappropriate to us then we carry on distracting,
very soon the dog finds a behaviour that is mutually
acceptable. The benefits of this type of approach
are numerous, firstly we aren't challenging the dog
so there is no conflict so the dog does't develop any
possible negativity to us, the dog decides of it own
free will that a behaviour is unsatisfying so chooses
to cease it (in other words even if we are gone the
dog won't have any desire to pursue that behaviour
i.e. bin raiding etc).

I would recommend his manual.
Paul

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST

Paul B wrote:
> While the concept of shake cans is not new,
> I haven't read any other advice that says to
> praise immediately regardless of what the dog
> does next (the common advice is to praise once
> the dog is doing a desired behaviour or at least
> stopped the unwanted behaviour), this is unique
> to Jerry (and Marilyn) and from my own
> experiences is an im****tant part of the process.

And how do we know this aspect of his advice is right?

Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.


His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.


 --Marshall

"Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Paul B (NOSPAMpand...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST


Hello Marshall,


The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.


The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.


A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.


One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.


While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an im****tant
part of the process.



> Thanks Paul! He does recommend praising
> a dog for barking, but he appears to recognize
> that this may not work and so distraction
> is recommended as a back up procedure:

> There really is NOTHING new about
> the advice above!

Nuthin EXXXCEPT HOWE IT'S DONE, professor <{}': ~ ) >

          ------------------------------

> However lately he has developed a penchant for jumping up
> on our kitchen counters and doing various things like licking
> dishes in the sink, pulling bills off the counter and eating them.
> He even once demolished a pill bottle and its contents, luckily
> they were herbal remedies.  He only does this when noone is
> around to prevent him.

Well, so much for your OBEDIENCE TRAINING, eh, soxfann??

>  My question is how can I train him not to do this if I'm not there.

That's EZ, soxfann. Your "OBEDIENCE TRAINING" is HOWE
COME your dog DOES those things. All you gotta do is DO
EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of
HOWE you was taught and your dog's behavior will rehabilitate
itself NEARLY INSTANTLY.

                             LIKE THIS:

Here's two Pauls:


 Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern
 Daylight Time
 From: p...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Witsend...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End
 Dog Training Method works.


 My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons
 around the barbecue on the patio. I
 used this system on four different occasions.


 When she went out today, she looked
 everywhere else but the barbecue.
 Amazing, just amazing.


  I will write to Amanda about the video.


 I am really excited to learn more, and
 understand. Maybe just a little reassurance
 that I am going about it the right way.


 Thanks again
 Paul


          -------------------

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Here's Disciple Paulie:

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbou...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
 Subject: Re: Dog vs cat food (stealing cat food)
 Date: 2001-03-03 22:18:03 PST

 It's possible to teach a dog not to eat out of a cat bowl
 without too much difficulty.

My dogs don't touch the food in the cat bowls although
 Roz licks up any bits that have been dropped around the
bowls :-)

I used a can with stones in it to create a distraction
 anytime the dogs tried to eat the cats food, followed
 with immediate praise. It worked a treat.

The cats bowls are down all the time, usually there is
 food left over but the dogs don't eat it, even if we go
 out and leave the dogs with access inside through a
 dog door.

 Paul

 -- 
 Obedience and affection are not related, if they
 were everyone would have obedient dogs.

 See the dogs, cats, us and pics of NZ etc at my homepage.....
 http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/paulbousie/index.html
 Updated regularly (last time 23 Jan 01) so keep coming back!!!

                 ----------------

"Paul B" <pand...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:3c2ae204@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 the manual has no dangerous suggestions at
all, people who find the manual useful are those that
don't need to control a dog to satisfy their own ego
but simply want a well behaved dog that is easy to
live with. I would suggest the people who follow the
advice in his manual are people who have already
tried other inefficient methods and are fed up with
the poor results.

The more I think about the methods he suggests the
more sense it makes, the biggest problem is people
believe they have to be in control of the dog, tell it
whats right and wrong, dogs don't understand
our values and I don't believe they are capable of
understanding them either, so to train them we use
methods they understand. That means abstract
training, doing sometimes what appears to
almost be the opposite of what makes sense to us.

If you are purely result orientated then you will not
find Jerry's manual much use, if you love your dogs
and love to work WITH them then his manual is
your dream come true. Distraction and praise works
with any dog, when you sit back and really think about
it, it's very obvious why.

When a dog is properly distracted (and praised) of a
particular behaviour then that behaviour very quickly
becomes unfulfilling so the dog will no longer have any
interest in pursuing it, whether we are about or not,
thats the key to stopping garbage can raids and food
stealing etc etc, no force, no bad dog, just distracting it
in an appropriate manner that it no longer wishes to
pursue that behaviour.

Better than hiding the garbage can eh?

Paul

           -----------------------

            AND LIKE THIS:

 Margaret Hoffman wrote:

Doggy Do Right and Jerry Howe


I just recently looked at this newsgroup
and I found it incredible. I do have a Doggy
Do Right and have had it for about one year.


It truly does work - at least on my Dobe, Chelsea.


Chelsea was the unhappy recipient of several
failed attempts at obedience training, both in
a "class" environment and with a personal trainer.


She is very high spirited and strong and,
unfortunately, spoiled, since we are an
older couple who doted on our dog.


We were lucky enough to find Jerry Howe
and to not only buy a Doggy Do Right, but
to also have him personally work with Chelsea.


His methods are wonderful and effective.


Chelsea is not a dog that you will bully,
and I wouldn't dream of hurting her.


After Jerry spent time with her, she no longer
jumped on furniture, ate food off the counter,
pulled me incessantly on the leash.


She is calmer and we are all happier.


Well, it is a very long story and I won't bore
you with all the details, but suffice it to say
that Jerry Howe saved the day for our dog
and for us.


Marge Hoffman.  (REWARD PAID BY DW.)


P.S. You can send me the reward money, but
I won't sell you my DDR!

                -----------------------

              AND LIKE THIS:

"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME The
Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33 Years
Experience.

Subject: To Jerry
1 From:  MarilynRammell
Date:  Tues, Aug 3 1999 3:00 am
Email:   "MarilynRammell" <marilynramm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

Hello Jerry,

A client of mine asked to say a 'big thank you' to you.
They have a 8 month spaniel that they were about to get
rid of.

In fact they had put her into kennels for a few day while
they 'thought it through'.  They rang me the day before
they were due to collect her.

She had wrecked their home - everytime they left her she
destroyed something else.  The walls, the cabinets, the
carpets, table legs, chair legs, - anything and everything.

They collected her and brought her to me.  I gave them some
routine training exercises, and also I wrote out your advice
(I will say at this point that I was not sure about it at all,
and felt a little embarrassed - it was the advice about the
'toy dog that gets the praise for not making a mess'.

Anyway, this was 11 days ago and I heard nothing.  Yesterday
they turned up at the new Monday evening class.  They were
absolutely delighted.

They told me that after just one attempt, (your toy suggestion)
she 'stopped all the destruction'.  They were in tear of happiness
while telling me.

Thank you Jerry.
Respectfully,
Marilyn

             ---------------- 

From: Marilyn Rammell (marilynramm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Separation anxiety (?) help needed!
Date: 1999/10/13

Hi Steve,

Just want to second Jerry's method for dealing with this -
I've suggested it to quite a few clients now and it's worked
'every' time.

It sounds a little 'amusing' I agree, but it really works.

Two of the occasions it's worked have been when the
owners were almost at the point of giving up (one had
actually put their dog into kennels for a few days so
that they could re-decorate the demolition done by the dog).

They rang me while the dog was still in kennels and were
not yet decided whether to collect the dog or not.

The very first time they tried Jerry's method, it worked.

Best of luck,
Marilyn Rammell

              -------------------- 

               AND LIKE THIS:

From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo

Aloha Jerry,

Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders.  I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now.  It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.

Your program is awesome, but you already know
that.  Keep up the good work!

Hoku

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                AND LIKE THIS:

Subject:        Jerry, your surrogate toy technique
From:  Jenn
Date:  Wed, Jul 24 2002 12:50 am
Email:   "Jenn" <dontemai...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

I've told people it worked for me in the past.
There. I'm preparing to be killfiled en masse.

Got a question. I'm going to use it to help give my dogs
freedom of the house while I'm gone instead of blocking
them in the kitchen, which I've been doing since I brought
Frodo home last year.

Frodo greets me at the door with a toy in his mouth. I
don't mind this and have no intention of stopping it.

So, what do I do when I come in if he has *the* toy in his mouth?

Simply take it away to say hi to it first? If I can't talk to Frodo,
I can't tell him to "drop it". He always gives things up when I reach
for them anyway, but if I'm reaching for the toy from him, isn't that
going to cause a problem?

-- 
Jenn S

              -------------------

              AND LIKE THIS:

From: "LESPERANCE/DEAKIN" <madea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 1999/10/06
Subject: Re: Separation Anxiety

Well Jerry, I have to hand it to you.  It worked!

Our dog was very well behaved until I had to go on the
road for my work this summer.  I was gone twice for 10
long days each time.   Although there were still people
home, I am the "primary care-giver" to my dog, so he
became destructive (shoes, books, rugs, papers etc)

We have a crate, but I believe it is too small for him
now - he is a cross golden/gsd and when he sits or stands
he cannot hold his head up as the top is too low, so I
didn't want to crate him while I went to work for sometimes
8 hours.

Anyway, I decided to try your method with the toy.

I would find a toy, tell it to be good and place it in
his crate. After just 3 days, there was no more destruction
in the house - even when daughter or hubby forgot to put
their shoes away!  Now the toy stays in the crate all day,
and he even crawls in to be with the "good toy" when I leave.

He seems quite proud when we come home.

I have not tried the can thing - don't quite understand
that, so I think my dog may be confused too!

Marcie (Winslow's mom)

             ------------------ 

             AND LIKE THIS:

Date: 2001-11-14 09:13:21 PST

"Yves Dussault" <ydussa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:3b1110ff.3798143@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi!
> I have downloaded Wit's End Dog Training Method...
> In there there is that trick with a toy about
> "Separation anxiety surrogate toy technique."
> Anybody has tried that... I would like to give it
> a try with my GSP (German shorthair.....pointer)
> Comments? Yves Dussault

Yves,

I for one have tried it... in fact I use this all the time.
I just used it last evening while my husband and I went out
to see "The Mummy Returns" (a horrible turkey of a movie,
but at least the house wasn't chewed from end to end in the
meantime).

Yes, it really works.  :-)  So do the other
distraction/praise techniques described therein.

If you are interested in the manual, you will
probably want to begin the exercises as well.

Regards,
Lisa

                 ------------- 

            AND LIKE THIS:

From: "nicole" <>
To: "Jerald D. Howe"
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:46 AM
Subject: Off to a good start!

 Hi Jerald,

 Just wanted to tell you we read your manual and have
 started working with the dogs...

"Chloe" (the one we adopted--a.k.a. "The Destroyer")
 has already shown great improvement! (In Just 1 DAY!)
 She responds even better than our other
 (better-behaved) dog "Poe".

 We tried out the surrogate toy technique, and not a thing
 was touched when we got back!  We were both surpised
 because Chloe isn't that interested in toys and was still very
 uptight about us reaching for the door...anyway, it seemed
 to work.  We both work all day today so we'll  see how that
 goes...

Regardless, we will be cool as cukes when we get home!  ;)

 I'm just so thankful we might have a chance to get
 through to her!  We're very excited about her progress
 thus far...

 Thank You!
 Nicole, Michael, Poe and especially Chloe!

             ----------------- 

          AND LIKE THIS:

From: "LEE " <>
To: <ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:11 AM
Subject: Wits end training in England

HOWEDY Lee,

> Hi,
> I have stumbled across your training method on the internet

EXCELLENT!

Nuthin happens by accident or coincidence.

> and I am pleased to say, one part of it has worked
> already after only 3 days of training.

Wonderful! Please follow the method entirely and
PRECISELY.  It NEVER FAILS, but it's very unforgiving
of mistakes and doesn't play well with other methods.

> I own two boxers, one of which is a rescue dog who
>  sufferred from 'seperation anxiety'

SA usually takes no more than WON day or two, to break.

> and would constantly chew his bedding in his crate
> when in the house alone.  After only 2 sessions of
> praising his favourite nylon bone and leaving it in
> front of the crate before leaving, the behaviour is gone!
> Lee.

HOWETSTANDING!

                  ------------- 

             AND LIKE THIS:

"Anthony Testa" <testa52> wrote in message

We came home to almost $1,000 in damage.
Furniture, the blinds were all chewed and torn
down, etc. The next day we put her in the crate
again. This time we came home to a nice 2' x 3'
hole in our carpet in the middle of the living room,
right down to the cement.

I told my wife that we cannot afford to keep this dog.
We should go out and get a puppy.

<SNIP>

 First, at no cost he sent us his manual. We started
 doing exactly what he said to do in the manual.

 Exactly as we did was was written, the results were
 exactly as he said it would be. Then we purchased
 the DDR.

 This is an amazing god send to us.

 First of all, Jerry sent it to us without paying. (thanks
 for that gesture) This has such and AMAZING effect.
 This testimonial is kind of  winded so I will say this......

 Jerry's product literally saved this dogs life.

 Angel can be left alone during the day. NO CRATE. The
 dog shows absolutely no sign of anxiety at all. Jerry
 told us the product works immediately and it did! She
 does not bark at all during the day except when the
 mailman drops mail into the slot on the door.

 The manual for training works exactly as it says!

<SNIP>

Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news
group, I can't for the life of me understand why this
many people are so dang blind or ignorant.

You just keep plugging away at what you do, because
you my friend are a life saver!!!

Anytime you need someone to speak about the results
of your product, you have my number. We would galdly
talk to them.

Thank you very much for all your help.

God bless you...
Anthony & Linda Testa
Jacksonville, Florida

               ---------- 

             AND LIKE THIS:

"nesskay" <ness...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:1156529540.182250.183510@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 has been a couple of months since we have initiated Jerry Howe's
 recommendations for resolving the separation anxiety in our 8 y.o.
chocolate lab.

We have seen remarkable results.

 She can now be left on our houseboat and we can return with
 all of the wood trim and/or blinds intact. Before we spoke with
 Jerry and started the training, we could not leave her without
 her barking in a high pitch incessantly.

 I had resorted to "building her a pen" with pieces of chair
 railing, putting chairs in front of windows, and moving the
 bed so that she could not get to the blind (again!). It would
 take about 10-15 minutes of planning and moving things before
 we could leave.

 Even with that, she would find something to destroy. We NOW
 use the surrogate toy method and can go out, shop, go to dinner
 or whatever, without any problems.

 She is glad to see us when we return, but no longer frantic.

 I am so happy that this seems to be the norm now.

 Another problem that we had with her was although she would
 not destroy the house, she would leave us runny poop in several
 places.(kind of the same as destroy I guess). I tried to blame this
 on her diet, but realized that her anxiety level was so high that
 she just had no control. Now, the only time that she has done
 that is when she devoured a diaper from the trash!!!

 Jerry's methods work. I found him by typing in separation
 anxiety+orlando florida into Google, otherwise I don't want
 to  speculate what could have happened with Amelia.

 We were at our Wit's End!!!!!! Thanks so much Jerry.
 We have given your URL to everyone we know with a dog.

 Your methods work. The others that we tried did not.

 It is that simple!

 Thank you, Thank you Thank you!
 Nancy and Amelia

                ---------------------- 

              AND LIKE THIS:

From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST

I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.

I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".

Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).

The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point
at the mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".

That made him afraid to relieve himself in the
house or infront of me.

After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.

When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".

This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...

Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking.  That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.

Thank you, Jerry, for all you help.

 You've been a blessing to all of us.

AIMEE

          ----------------------- 

From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
):

I own a black an tan coonhound.  We got him
as a puppy, and due to constant mishandling
(pulling on his lead, negative corrections, and
the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.

I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't
crate him, I couldn't even take my dog for
walks because he feared EVERYTHING.

I was going to have to get rid of him if things
didn't turn around.

My husband and I searched the internet for
answers - AND WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.

For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!

I've followed his manual, and we now have a
dog that can be  left home  alone, that heels
on command, that can go outside and NOT
be afraid of everything he sees.

Not only have his methods helped our dog, but
our marriage has gotten better.  We had fallen
into a rut - constant bickering and tension, we
never laughed or had FUN together - but now,
with the same mindset used in THE PUPPY
WIZARDS dog training, our communications
channels have opened, and we now work
together instead of against one another.

For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID
NOT TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY,
OR HEEL.

We simply eliminated the nagging and the acting out to get
NEGATIVE attention from one another since we weren't
getting the POSITIVE attention we wanted.

So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS METHODS WORK.

It's up to you to accept them.  Yes, there's alot of blame
that we have to accept, but once we realize that we've caused
these problems to arise, we can strive to make things better.

AIMEE

              *****************************

               I THINK YOU GET THE POINT.

                         DON'T YOU.

  Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How Wits End
  Training Really Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey
  And don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That
  Deals With Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built
  On Trust And Understanding."

Disciple Paulie Writes:


I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.


Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and
say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the
request and I bet you'll find your dog thinking
then responding everytime.


A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule
applies to every aspect of the relation****p with
your dog.


Obedience and affection are not related, if they
were everyone would have obedient dogs.


Paul.

        Subject: Here's A Word From C...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Date: 2002-01-29 11:53:56 PST

          "Jerry Is On A One Man Jihad To Expose
             And Discredit Dog Abusing Trainers"


        Hello People,


        Here's a word from C...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :


        Hello Fans,


        As the leading dog behavior and training
        guru/personality of our times, and as the
        ceo of the most im****tant dogcasting
        network on the planet, I think it's only fair
        that I jump in here and break it down a little
        like this.


        I specialize not only in dogs, but in making
        complicated issues easy to understand.


        Which brings us to Jerry Howe.


        Jerry Howe knows moore about dogs and dog
        trainers and dog training methods than anyone
        who participates here. As for me, I have more
        skill than anyone here. As a result, I can train
        dogs brilliantly, and dramatically, even offleash
        on busy four lane highways in the concrete
        wastelands of America...


        http://dogtv.com/4LANE3.rm


        without having to worry about following any of Jerry's
        rigid guidelines for training dogs, or breaking any of the
        rules in his "gestalt" approach. And, for that matter,
        without having to rely on non-Jerry methods such as
        shock collars or having to use force which makes my
        dogs "will to resist fade in im****tance."


        You see, fans, I got my own methods, and you'll be
        finding out about those presently


        HOWE-ever, this is about Jerry, so let's talk Jerry.


        Most newbies here, or other people who are struggling,
        clueless and frustrated and doing things to train
        their dog that they know they should not do, or would
        rather not do, which either aren't working, or are even
        making things worse, etc...and so forth, can, via
        following the techniques in Jerry's FREE manual, get
        excellent results in a short period of time.


        He'll tell you HOWE, and I'll tell you WHY.


        Most of you have heard of Pavlov's bell, where dogs
        became conditioned to salivate at the sound of a bell
        after they  were repeatedly fed immediately after the
        sound of the bell.


        That's called conditioning.


        And, while Jerry forcefully argues against the use of
        what he calls "food bribes" (which is HOWE, many
        other kinds of animals are trained, for instance,
        dolphins) dogs can be trained/conditioned with or
        without the use of food.


        Jerry chooses to go the non food route exclusively,
        and claims to get effective results, quickly, in virtually
        any kind of dog or situation.  Nothing in my  brilliant
        guru-ness leads me to believe that he is not being
        truthful with most of his claims about his training
        methods.


        And scientific conditioning, which applies and is
        effective on all dogs, and most other mammals
        and higher life forms, is the basis of Jerry's training.
        This is why, when Jerry says "a dog is a dog is a dog"
        he is correct, in a sense.


        Yes, there are breed differences, but yes, all dogs,
        regardless of breed, can be conditioned using
        scientific methods.


        As for Jerry's behavior here, I'm not a human trainer,
        and I don't try to train humans. But I do deal with people
        in the same brilliant way that I deal with dogs. I don't
        keep doing something which isn't working in order to
        try to get people to behave, any more than I try to do the
        same w/ dogs.


        The moore you try to force Jerry, or put Jerry in a
        Time Out or re****t him to his ISP, the worse his
        behavior gets.


        Jerry is on a one man Jihad to expose and discredit
        trainers who use this same idea of escalating punitivism,
        on dogs, which Jerry believes is responsible for causing
        the best dogs to get killed because of the fact that they


        will not submit to this linear approach of escalating
        force and punishment.


        His classic example of this phenomenon is a german
        shepherd named "Fritz" (do a google search).


        Many of Jerry's critics have a vested interest in
        Jerry being crazy. Because if he isn't, it makes them
        crazy for preaching that Jerry is crazy, so hard and
        for so long.


        But regardless, to anyone interested in training
        their dog effectively without force or punishment,
        Jerry's mental state is irrelevant and his advice is
        generally excellent, if sometimes overbearing.


        And finally, Jerry's approach is especially valuable
        for interrupting, stopping or extingui****ng unwanted
        behaviors. I'm not so sure howe good it is when it
        comes to getting creative results out of dogs, or for
        teaching dogs tricks or complicated sequences (at
        least as far as I can tell).


        My only caveat with Jerry's method is that the idea of
        extingui****ng behaviors is kind of like extingui****ng
        biodiversity or any other resource.  Each behavior is
        a resource to me, not necessarily a problem to be
        extinguished. You have to be careful what you
        extinguish.


        But, like jerry says, dogs don't do right or wrong,
        they do "dog." And his method does not punish
        them for doing wrong. It only tries to extinguish
        certain aspects of "dog" which can be problematical
        for people.


        That's all for now, gotta go back to my new job at an
        IT expert. It's a long and grueling one mile walk from
        home.
        -- 
        this is michael
        re****ting live...
        from the even faster loading
        http://dogtv.com


        CLASSIC DOGTV.COM FOOTAGE
        Callie Steals the Show
        1998 APDT National Convention
        http://dogtv.com/CallieStealsS­how2.rm
(950k Real
        Video)

                  -------------------

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: "TooCool" <larrym...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:56:16 GMT

Subject: Thinking Dogs

Using a proper training method, a method consonant with a dog's
 nature, it is possible to enhance a dog's ability to think. If their
thinking faculty is not exercised and developed then dogs have a
tendency to bounce around, like a billiard ball, from one stimulus
 to another.

But when a dog's thinking faculty is exercised and developed then
they enjoy using that faculty more and more. They begin to feel pride
 in their accomplishments-you can observe their delight in the way
 that they love to show off what they have learned.

As their thinking faculty develops you will begin to see them
improvise more and more, i.e., applying what they have learned
 to new situations. Operant conditioning (clicker training) does
not exercise a dog's ability to think-it conditions a reflex like
reaction at the nervous system level.

 If you desire to train a thinking dog, please read the Puppy Wizard's
 Wits' End Training Method-it caters to the nature of our thinking dogs.

--Larry

                  -------------------

From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.


Hey J,


I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.


The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with
the last.


I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.


I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.


The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.


Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.


I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.


See ya,


Paul

                   -------------------

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard

Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and sup****t your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establi****ng a nonprofit
charity to fund your im****tant work?

Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.

I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer
Marshall Dermer/Associate Professor/
Behavior Analysis Specialty/Department
of Psychology/University of Wisconsin-
Milwaukee/Milwaukee,WI 53201der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer

           -----------------------------­------


     "The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
                  may acquire those rights
         which never could have been withholden from them
                    but by the hand of tyranny.
             The question is not can they REASON,
                       nor can they TALK,
                     but can they SUFFER?"  -
                      - Jeremy Bentham

           "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
                 for the good of its victims,
                 may be the most oppressive.
           Those who torment us for our own good
                 will torment us without end,
             for they do so with the approval of
                   their own conscience." -
                       - C.S. Lewis.

         "Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
                  Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
                        Agamemnon.

        "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
                   and you will know each other.
         If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
                and what you do not know you will fear.

                   What one fears, one destroys."
                      Chief Dan George

             All truth p***** through three stages.
                     First, it is ridiculed.
               Second, it is violently opposed.
            Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
                    -Arthur Schopenhauer

             "Thank you for fighting the fine fight-- 
                  even tho it's a hopeless task,
                     in this system of things.
                  As long as man is ruling man,
                 there will be animals (and humans!)
                    abused and neglected. :-(
                    Your student," Juanita.

                "If you've got them by the balls
                    their hearts and minds
                        will follow,"
                         John Wayne.

                    ANY QUESTIONS, People?

                  "Ye shall know the truth,
              and the truth shall make you mad." -
                       ~Aldous Huxley.

      "Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
      "Against stupidity the Gods themselves  contend in vain!"
                      -Friedrich Schiller.

                          INDEEDY.

       AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!

                        In Love And Light,
             I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours,
                The WORLD'S CRUELEST Trainer,
                           Jerry Howe,
         The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
                         A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
                      *M-A-J-E-S-T-I-C*
                         *G-R-A-N-D*
                       *M-A-S-T-E-R*
        Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Ferret, Goat, Monkey
              SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ;~ ) >

                HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >

Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092 (Call ANY TIME)
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard

E-mail:

Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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