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Re: humping behavior

by <DelusionalDimensionsRecoveryDDR@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 1, 2008 at 09:47 PM

HOWEDY diddler you pathetic, semi-litterlate daughter
of a English teacher, you miserable stinkin rotten lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic
life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL
CASE and PROFESSIONAL dog trainin FRAUD, SCAM
ARTIST, BACKYARD PUPPY-MILLER, and SPECIAL
EDUCATION R.E.A.D. program ASSISTANT TEACHER /
DOG TRAINER,

"diddy" <none> wrote in message 
news:Xns9AB0ABAD0B5A6diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Janet Boss <janet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spoke these words of
wisdom
> in news:janet-B7AA43.16410501062008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> In article <Xns9AB0A8F13C455diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, diddy <none>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Julia Altshuler <jaltshuler@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spoke these words of wisdom
in
>>> news:0uSdnchQPr1AZN_VnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> > Terri, Jack, FurPaw and Matt have all added PLAY to
>>> > the discussion and understanding of humping behavior.

Humping, EXXXCEPT when breeding, is a symptom
of EXXXTREME ANXXXIHOWESNESS <{}: ~ ( >

>>> > I'm thinking in that direction now.

That's curiHOWES. Perhaps liea is tryin sumpthin NEW?

"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.

"I know this is a hard subject to bring up without starting the
whole cruelty thread again so I'll state my opinion once and
won't defend it further: any method can be cruel for some
dogs.

Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the
beginning, but we've come a long way since then.

She*trusts us now as I mentioned in a recent post.
Point is, she's been rewarded for coming, but she's
never been punished, even in the mildest way, for not coming.

Is it time for that?

What might I look for to tell?"

"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:McYnb.45145$ao4.106231@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> After talking with the vet yesterday and watching
> Cubbe all day today, I'm convinced that the shaking
> is behavioral, not physical. Naturally I'll continue
> keeping an eye on her, but when I add everything
> up, I don't see symptoms of anything neurological--
> and the vet agrees.
> --Lia

"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help.
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusMed.WMV
http://www.oofus.com/pix/PoorR**ufusSmall.WMV"

THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and
ASYLUM ESCAPEES.

>>> >   Thanks to all.

BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

>>> > --Lia

>>> Even with plaY, I don't allow it

Of curse not~!

> If you find counter surfing acceptable, or trash can raiding acceptable,
> it's no skin off my nose.  If you find humping acceptable, likewise, 
> that's
> fine. I don't. I neither accept it, nor allow it. PERIOD.

Of curse not~!:

diddler the **** stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:

"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.

 Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated cir***stances.

A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.

You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.

                        -------------------

                          LIKE THIS:

"Cappy the beagle killed one of my ducklings today.
Tuck grabbed a leg, and swallowed a leg and thigh
before I could get him.

a month ago, he almost died from swallowing a
chicken wing. Now I'm sweating all over again.

I think he's never going to  be allowed out ever
again without a muzzle! (he seems alright thus far.

                              ------------------------

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                                IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

Re: Tuck's SAR experience

"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns982D2E8C7C9D6danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I just came in from putting chickens to bed, and Tuck
 had my computer keyboard on the floor, and there are
 now two keys missing.
 Ornery git

                                  -------------

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                                IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns9839861A82FF6danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in thread news:m1s5g2lsio01rsk9iisfcjotfqigmljjnp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Janet B
> <j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:
> Curious how many choose to crate a dog forever,
> whenever they leave the house and/or overnight,
> or how many choose to wean from household
> crate usage (usage being shutting the dog in the
> crate, not the dog choosing to hang out there) at
> some specific ages or maturity levels.
> Not for how long during a workday, but how
> long for a dog's lifespan?

 I plan on crating Tuck whenever NOT supervised
 (which isn't often.. he usually is with me) Until the
 day that he quits tearing apart everything in sight
 when I leave the room.

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

 A dog proof room doesn't work.

 He's figured out door knobs. He's figured out cupboards,
 and he loves to tug open dresser drawers.  He's not
 interested  in anything  left out in the open.

 He's into treasure hunting, figuring  anything worth
 secreting away is worth his effort discovering. He's
 discovered the sock stash is in drawers.

 Trash cans? --not interested.
 Counter tops? --not interested
 Counter tops -with food? --not interested
 Dog food sitting on the floorin open bags? --not interested

 razor blades from bathroom drawers?  ...  Very cool stuff!

 Mom really gets bent too!

 nope.. His crate is going to be occupied for
 some time to come.

 As for the beagle.. She's never been trustworthy.

She's getting senile and never will be trustworthy,
so a crate is in her future until she crosses the bridge.

 Reka, no crate at no time,  She lost her crate when she was
 5 months old.  Both Tuck, and reka hangout in  crates by choice.

 Reka dens in the bathtub usually. (kind of a crate) But she
 likes the beagles vantage point, because the beagles crate
 is on top of Tuck's. Right next to the window so she can see
 out.  Tuck prefers the compartment with a view as well.

 I always have to vacate him (even though the crate on top is
 too small for both elkhounds, it's their preferred lookout)
 when I wantto stick in the beagle.

 Reka sleeps under the bed at night or in the bathtub at night
 if it's really hot. She sleeps in the  bathtub by day when not
 watching from the penthouse suite.

 Tuck is not crated at night, and has chosen to sleep in
 the closet. The beagle holds down the couch, night and day.

                               --------------

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                                IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

 > "diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
 > news:JS76a.9623
 >
 >> Taya had eaten  over 5 POUNDS of summer sausage!

>>  I just had to laugh, because otherwise, I'd have cried.
 >
 > is taya an elkie? no point in crying over ingested summer sausage
 > is what my mom used to say. did she get the runs?

 Taya IS a 1/2 a cup a day  for food elkie. When i told mom and dad
 that she ate 5 POUNDS, we all marveled, my goodness! Where did she
 put it all!

 She went to the emergency vet clinic last night in a snowstorm
 along 60 miles of ice slick roads, & blowing snow. The price
wasn't bad $120 but she had pancreatitis.

Crap, I should have induced vomiting when I realized it had happened.

Going from a regular diet of ounces in a day to 5 pounds
was bound to cause problems!

She seemed fine at the time, and I didn't think about it.

  It could have been worse. There was NO fat in those summer sausages,
  because they were homemade. No greasy texture, and much better than
  any you buy. Because there was no fat, I had figured pancreatits
  wasn't going to be a factor.

 Wrong again.

                          -------------------------

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                                IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

Re: Just scheduled blood test--Zipper too

"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns99056C3BAB8F4danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 in thread
news:IeqdnZChtN4RX5jbnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "MauiJNP"

> <jmh1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:
> in thread news:IeqdnZChtN4RX5jbnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "MauiJNP"
> jmh1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:
> Seems to me, that should be a standard question for
> any pet having any problems at this time.

I took Tuck in last Wednesday to the vets because two weeks
before, he had chewed some old treated lumber. Knowing that
treated lumber used to be treated with Arsenic, and he ate a
substantial amount, I took him into the emergency clinic and
they treated him for arsenic poisoning.

A week later, he still had a raw stomach, esophagus and stomach
(revealed by endoscopy). He was treated with buffers, and antibiotics
to prevent infection of the inflamed tissues. Wednesday, still not
right, but improving, I took him back in for a recheck.

The first thing the vet did, was ask what foods I was feeding.
Which I understood why, but felt considering his current history,
was rather a unnecessary question. I felt we pretty much knew
 what was going on with him.

Since he was greatly improved, we decided not to do another
endoscopy and just watch him. He's 100% back to normal.
Hope Cali is too.

                 ------------

           BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                          IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
News:Xns993C52BAC299Bda...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dogs aren't into beer that much. But they sure love Horse poop!

                -----------------------

                     LIKE THIS:

From: diddy <none>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:00:29 -0600
Local: Sun, Nov 11 2007 1:00 pm
Subject: And then there were......

I was prepared a few hours ago to post there were now
only two dogs. But after a trip to the Dayton Emergency
clinic, we are now only $200 poorer and brought home a
very torb'ed up beagle.

We estimate the beagle to be about 14.

This morning she had severe abdominal distress.  Pacing,
whining, and crippling spasm, accompanied with the most
pitiful moans and groans you ever heard.

My husband said, if it's serious (LOOK HERE.. ANY PAIN OF
THAT MAGNITUDE IS SERIOUS!) we weren't going to fix it,
 we would simply put her down. But she got out yesterday, and
indulged in a buffet of horse meadow muffins.

She may be impacted, and it might pass.

I told him she's in pain, and transient or not, we
 have to do something about the pain while we
wait to see if the issue resolves or not.

So the vet said, if you aren't fixing it. Let's juice her
up on Torbugesic, healthy doses of antibiotics, with reglan
to move things along. We just treated everything.  So if
there is improvement, we will assume fixable. If not.. I
will write that "And then there were two" post.

to be continued.....

                 ----------------------

                  BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                    IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

Hey **** for brains? Eatin kats won't cause peritonitis:

From: diddy
(di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet owner****p.
I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.

To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will not
look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs, But mom
and dad now have a house cat, and she has never been
harmed by  any of the dogs. Danny is there all the time,
unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

                        ------------------------------

             BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                           IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

Here's diddler trainin her neighbor's dog to stay HOWETA her garbage:

From: diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK

I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way I would react.
There would be none left standing to deal with the threat just in
 case.

If someone hurt him, I would not let borders  or
continents stop me from pursuing justice.

Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If someone is feeding
his dog outside, his own dog might not mean THAT much to him.

If he was feeding his dog outside though, many dogs are food
 aggressive, and that could most certainly spark a dog aggression
 thing. (and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what was it
doing in his yard?)

I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my horses and called
him to help me find it. I would do the same for threatening my dog.

My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up trash up and down
 our road for years making an unbelievable mess. When we finally
killed the culprit, the whole road cheered. Animal control had never
 been able in years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....and it had been shot
 at by  MANY of the neighbors, but it never frightened it off enough
to keep  it from NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)

                         ---------------

                  BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                          IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

 From: diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
 Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
 Subject: Separation Anxiety

 All this talk of SA. Thios goes way off topic, but it's SA to the
 extreme.. but goes both ways. I know Danny has Separation anxiety.
 He doesn't do physical damage, he internalizes it.

 Which I wish he wouldn't.

 The vets all try to "fix" it and consider it a real problem.
I don't see it that way. I feel physically ill without him.
So it's mutual.

I have made sure Reka does not EVER get that attached.  I do
not want "our" mutual separation anxiety  fixed. I just take
Danny with me everywhere, and am honored by his company.

I resent the vets that they consider this a "problem". In fact,
I stole him out of a specialists care that thought the SA should
be fixed right then and there. They kept me out in the waiting
room for five days and nights, while my dog was on the other side
of the door.

He escaped, knowing I would be there for him. He opened, what
they considered inescapable cages, under 24 hour observation. It
takes 2 hands to operate the latch, and apparently he used a paw
and a tongue to break free dragging his intubations and iv's with
him as he burst into the waiting room to be with me.

I burst into tears and was so happy to see him.

The doctors couldn't throw me out of there, because it was
a 24 hour clinic. But they decided his SA was inconducive
to his health. They were going to fix it right then and there.

They ordered that I was NOT to see my dog.

I was deeply resentful of this, and the next time Danny
escaped (and he did) I grabbed him and ran from the clinic.
I called my vet on the 2 hour trip home, and told him I was
on my way home with my dog, and he needed sup****tive care.

My vet allowed me to stay with my dog.

He had excellent care. Top Notch. But I don't understand why
vets seem to think THEY own the dog while in their care. I was
paying for this.

I don't and never understood how a vet seemed to think they have
the right  to keep you from your pet. I would never take my dog
back there. Apparently since he had been passed from specialist
to specialist, this was the only place that could perform the surgery
he needed.

But they were totally insensitive to the
emotional needs of both dog and client.

            -----------------------

"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message

news:Xns98489B8B2F853danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 was 5 months old before he held it all night long,
At 8 months he still gets me up at 5am.

But if she's getting less frequent, puppy vaginitis,
especially in little girly puppies is so common, it's
pretty much expected in some breeds might be suspected..

It's excruciatingly painful and can lead to renal
disease or many other issues if untreated.

I'd make an appointment with your vet for a re-visit
and have your concerns checked out.

The fact that you are concerned is sufficient reason
to raise red flags that something needs evaluated with
this puppy.

                --------------

> Tuck loves other dogs, and wants to immediately rush up to them
> and greet them nose to nose. He means no aggression. I don't allow
> it, because it's a good way for him to lose a nose from a less congenial
> fellow.

Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS?:

Here's your IDIOT son's dog:

Subject: Re: The kind of mess uneducated breeders are making

No idea what he is. He's supposed to be part chow, but he
looks more aussie/duck tolling retriever to me than anything
with a pomeranian tail.

His facial animations are hilarious, you can see the wheels
turning, and he's very engaging. The down side is, a kid from
next door came over and pulled his ears, and he bit the kid on
the face resulting in a $300,000 plastic surgery.

I have a zero tolerance for dog bites, and would normally
put a dog that did that down, but this dog was the victim
here.

                            ----------------

                  BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                          IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

> It's much better for him to never start and/or extinguish the behavior
> from the get-go rather than lose his face and tell him later, that he
> should not have done that.

But of curse~!

> I just prefer plain good manners.

Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS?:

From: diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:30:27 -0500
Local: Wed, Mar 6 2002 8:30 am
Subject: Re: teaching dogs "jobs"

(They were taught NEVER EVER to step on a road.... No foot
EVER touches the road!) Danny lost a tracking test once,
because the test crossed a seldom used gravel road. When he
reached the road, a car just happened to go by. He refused
to cross the road, and when I took him by the collar and
****ged him, I was Disqualified for aiding the dog.

Danny simply will NOT cross a road.. when he
was intact, not EVEN for a ***** in season.

Now you have a dog that...

                     WHOOOOPS!

        Whoops, Danny And Taya run away from
        unsecured yard and imbecile owner BUT
        CAREFULLY AVOID CROSSIN A ROAD.

        Will they survive life out in the wilderness
        out amongst diddler's coyote traps?

        Will they get mistaken for coyotes and sold
        to the highest bidder at the fur auction?

        Or will they live again to do a help dummy diddy
        do a demonstration on safe and responsible pet
        owner****p in the kitchen with the vet's office kitten?

                       Stay tuned, fans...

       > Whoops, Danny And Taya run away from
       > unsecured yard and imbecile owner.
       >
       > Will they survive life out in
       > the wilderness our amongst the coyote traps?
       >
       > Will they get mistaken for coyotes and sold
       > to the highest bidder at the fur auction?

       > Or will they live again to do a help dummy
       > diddy do a demonstration on safe and
       > responsible pet owner****p in the
       > kitchen with the vet's office kitten?
       >
       > Stay tuned, fans...

        From: Kathy Levee (kle...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
       > Subject: Off Topic --MISSING DOGS
       > Date: 1999/04/14
       >
       > I realize this has absolutely nothing to do with
       > Disney. Parks, but since those of us on this
       > newsgroup are from all over the country, I thought
       > you would understand this one time intrusion.  We
       > are desperate to find these dogs....Please, if you
       > have any information, contact the e-mail address
       > at the bottom of the note.  Thank you for your
       > understanding.........
       >
       > Karyl Parks' (aka diddler) dog Danny - Ch. Alpha's
       > Decorum (I think that is his correct registered name) is
       > missing .  For those that have never met Danny -
       > he is very special.  Both trained for Search and
       > Rescue

You'd think the dog could find his
own way back to his HOWES???

       > as well as service dog trained, CDX, etc.

But IT can't find ITS way back to his own HOWES?

       > He does all the things that service dogs do

Like run HOWET on his people and not return?

     > from opening doors, turning on lights, getting
     > clothes and shoes.

You FORGOT MURDERIN the vet's office kitty kat
and escaping and destructively chewing a rug and
gettin locked in a box in an HOWEtbuilding to muffle
his CRYING till he was ****IN BLOOD and went in
for intestinal obstruction.

       >  He is a marvel.

Naaah. You want a MARVEL? Marvel at that
STUPID KAT that PAINICKED when diddler
snared IT in her leg hold STRANGLE / CHOKE
choke trap. She'd have BLUDGEONED IT had
IT not been wearin a collar. Perhaps she was
lookin for a REWARD, bein a SUBSISTANCE
hunter and all.

       > He is nine years old but does not
       > show his age - he is about 60 pounds 22 1/2
       > inches, dark face.  By tomorrow I will have a
       > picture available.
       >
       > Monday night he was put out to do his business
       > along with Taya another elkie.  At 10:00pm - both
       > he and Taya were gone from Karyl's yard.
       >
       > She heard nothing and the gate was open but
       > opened inward.  Danny was neutered in the last
       > year so is not of any use to anyone for breeding.
       >
       > Karyl has handed out over 1,200 flyers today -
       > gone to the schools where Danny was well
       > known - he did demonstrations, talked to
       > neighbors and combed the neighborhood.
       >

       > She lives in farm
       > country outside Greenville, Ohio.
       >
       > Danny is a tall elkie - very handsome -
       > microchipped.  I am looking for a picture I took
       > when he visited here two years ago.  He was not
       > wearing a collar when lost. Karyl will talk to
       > postal workers, garbage truck drivers, county
       > road crews, meter readers, tomorrow - has
       > already contacted law enforcement and shelters.
       >
       > Please for anyone in the area or who can cross
       > post this to other lists do it.  This dog is Karyl's
       > life and she can not imagine life without him.
       >
       > Taya - also an elkhound her parents dog - spayed
       > female five years old.  Small size - I think only
       > about 18 inches.  They could be together or
       > separate  - Taya did have a collar on. Do not
       > know if she is microchipped.
       >
       > Karyl's email is kpa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
       >
       > Thank you for your understanding......we're
       > posting this to every list we are involved with
       > and pray for their safe return.

Ummm, better RETHINK THAT. Your PAL diddler
is a Satanist or somethin weird like that.

       > Kathy
       >
       > ==============================-===

          BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAA~!~!~!

                          IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

You call tying the dog to a wall training, diddler, like
HOWE you trained your fence to train your dog?

> He has to play nice in competition. I've seen dogs in long sit/stays
> get up and attack other dogs that were minding their own business,
> and remained in a stay, unmoving, even with another dog's teeth
> stuck in their necks.
>
> Because there was only one dog fighting and zero retaliation,
> the "fight" was easily and safely broken up.
>
> Better yet, not to let inflammational behavior ever start.

You mean, LIKE THIS?:

"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns99E154DAFFD50diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dog trainer must succeed. By nature, "Command" mentality
makes dog trainers a curmudgeonly lot. The deeper a dog
behavior digs in, the more willing a good trainer is to do
what it takes to uproot the undesired behavior.

This willingness to tackle what results in a battle of wills
is well pronounced in dog trainers. And if you think that's
something, try horse trainer lists, where the ante is upped X
1000 pounds and poor results can KILL you!

However, "nice little horsey " types are rarely successful
in horse training and rather self extingui****ng bringing
about more moderation in established techniques.

              BWEEEAAAAHAHAAA~!

                          IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

   BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!

                          IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

          BWEEEEAAAHAHAHAAAA~!~!~!

                          IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

                BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                          IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

                            SEE?

                      LIKE THIS:

Re: Question About Euthanasia - Not For Faint of Heart

"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
in message news:Xns995C9D28D6616danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 if you are willing to be trolled.  Using firearms
is not the most palatable way to put a dog down, but
sometimes it IS the most humane. For instance. I live
10 miles from a vet not an unreasonable distance  for
routine care.

But one day, I was outside the fence in the company of
my dog, when the phone rang inside the house. I ran in
the door, and it was my dad. I said, "Dad, the dog did
not come in with me, I'll call you back"

Not aware that my dog had crossed the road to visit the
children getting off the school bus across the street,
I assumed her to be in her usual haunts, out in the back
pasture or barns.

I called her to come, and called her directly into the
path of a speeding car. She got hit directly on the
license plate and was thrown about 30 yards.

I knew exaclty what had happened, when I heard the
sickening thud, and her screams.

I rushed to her, and saw the blood streaming from her
ears and nose. her mangled little body irreparable. I
knew she was going to die. She quit screaming when I
went to her side. I went to move her, and she started
screaming even louder.

I knew moving her was only causing her greater agony.
She was in enough, and the outcome was not going to be
any better.

I decided to not put her through any more, and I left
her screaming, went in the house, got the handgun, and
returned. I gave her a tearful hug and apology. And I
did the hardest thing I've ever done in my whole life.

I took her pain, and made it my own. She immediately
slumped and went limp, and was silent. Quick. Taking
her to the vet was the poorer alternative.

in later years, I released a dog from the pound. She
was dumped for biting.  Knowing that most of the time,
a dog that bites is the child's fault, I brought her
home to see if she was salvageable in a childless home.

She at least deserved an evaluation.  She seemed fine,
then the following day, with no provocation, she lunged
for my throat. This was an unprovoked attack, and I knew
there was probably something physically wrong with the
dog (perhaps a brain tumor?) and regardless, she was a
HUGE liability risk, and I could never place her.

So I took her to the vet for euthanasia.

The vet kept sticking her for 15 minutes, and it was the
ugliest screaming death I ever witnessed.... until I had
my old 18 year old companion diagnosed with systemic organ
failure. Her old body wore out. I took her to the vet.

Apparently poor circulation caused her not to use the
euthanasia shot properly. The vet kept giving her one
shot after another, and she dies a slow agonizing death,
screaming, and looking at me in betrayal and dismay.

I wanted to grab her from the vet, and take her home,
and shoot her. It would have been over faster.

Then I took Danny in for Euthanasia. The best dog I've
ever had. The vet stuck him, and he went down HARD,
screaming.

He screamed for about 10 minutes.

If a vet was going to get a dog right, this one he HAD
to, and he didn't. I was furious. I'm forever sorry I
took him to the vet, but the violence of shooting him
was just unnacceptable to me.

These are THREE different vets.

I've witnessed hundreds of vet euthanasias that went
uneventfully. But those THREE failures stick forever
in my mind. Two on  dogs very near and dear to me.

If I could accept the violence and had the fortitude
to do the job myself, those dogs would have never
needlessly suffered. A bullet properly placed is quick
and final.

Perhaps the OP has had not so good experiences, and
just wants to be sure the job is done right. I don't
necessarily consider them a troll (however I strongly
suspect that they are, and if they have to ask what
caliber to use, they probably are not a good enough
shot that they should attempt this)

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Date: December 29, 2006 5:47 AM

Subject: Re: Dog chewing up floors

in thread news:aad9p2hg0aei5nijqludfvqhb8g1l0jsaj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <mmmtobler...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following
words:

> I, for one, am glad that the Puppy Wizard comes across
> as a complete loon given what his advice is since it
> makes it less likely that people will take it instead
> of the advice of someone else I think gives better advice.

For the record, The Puppy wizard over-rates himself.  But
"his" (tm) methods are pretty much tried and true methods
 that trainers have used and some still use today.

There are better methods out there now. But the ones posted
in his manual (now that he has removed the advice to SPIKE
a dog's temperature to dangerous levels) are sound. they work..
no matter what we  think of the puppy-wizard and  his packaging...
"his methods" <cough> are just as valid as anyone else's

"His methods" can stand some updating, and he definitely
needs to look at some repackaging.

Hopefully others add a slicker delivery to grab attention,
but truthfully, when you look at the cat fights that go on
here, and stand back and watch in perspective, it's rather
hard to determine the sane ones from the lunatics.

In fact, an awful lot of people here come off looking
rather tainted. A person needs to have a good filtering
device to sort out the noise.

TPW just has a problem that's too painfully obvious.

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