HOWEDY racetrack silly you pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal muderin punk thug coward active acute
chronic life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
MENTAL CASE and professional "shelter / rescue"
SCAM ARTIST who's "SHELTER / RESCUE"
MURDERS 67% of their "sheltered / rescued" dogs,
"sighthounds & siberians" <x@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On 28 May 2008 11:30:30 -0400, shore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Melinda Shore) wrote:
>
>>In article <tOe%j.5941$u7.4150@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Spot <spot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>>> When a dog is not neutered they often develop cancer
>>> sometimes very early on in life
That's a LIE. spot is a lyin dog murderin shock
collar fancier mental case, like yourselves.
>>Okay, I'm definitely not an anti-neutering nutjob but I also
>>don't think that advocating it requires misrepresenting the
>>facts. About 7% of intact dogs develop testicular cancer.
That's abHOWET 6.99% EXXXAGERATED.
>>That's too many, but it's not "many."
I've NEVER KNOWN a dog that had testicular cancer.
>> I'm sorry your dog got sick but I'd be awfully, awfully
>> careful about universalizing your experience.
ALL of spot's DEATHLY ILL dogs are SICK an DYIN
from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES
a.k.a. The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <{}:~ ( >
> Yep. Ex-racers placed by adoption groups are all neutered,
You was PRESIDENT of the board of GreyHOWEND adoptions.
> because doG knows we don't need any more greyhounds or
> greyhound mixes running around. But all of them are neutered
> after they've reached maturity - around 20 months would be the
> youngest - and most well after they're 2, 3, 4 or 5 years of age.
You GET PAID to surgically ***ually mutilate your "rescue" dogs.
> Greyhounds certainly get cancer,
MOST of your own personal "rescued" GreyHOWENDS GOT
CANCERS and psychogenic seizures and collapsed tracheas,
didn't they, racetrack silly.
> but I've never heard of one with testicular cancer. I'm
> not saying it doesn't happen, just that it isn't common.
Not only ain't it common, it's RARE.
"There are a number of adverse health problems that have been linked
to spay/neuter in dogs, and are do***ented in the veterinary research
medical literature. One will not find any mention of these adverse
impacts in the pro-spay/neuter propaganda that commonly comes
from breed rescue groups, animal rights groups, animal welfare
groups, and (sadly) veterinary medical resources aimed at the layman.
Contrary to the common claim, the risk of prostate cancer in dogs is
not reduced with neutering. Some published studies showed an
increased risk of prostate cancer in neutered male dogs [1-3]. Two
of the most recent studies show a 4 fold increased risk of prostate
cancer in castrated dogs [2,3].
The risk of osteosarcoma, a bone cancer with a far worse prognosis than
testicular cancer, doubles with spay/neuter in dogs [4]. Neutering in
the first year of a dog's life was found to be associated with an
increased
lifetime risk of osteosarcoma in male and female Rotties of a factor of
3-4
[5]. [Rotties were the only breed examined in this depth, the increased
risk with spay/neuter likely affects other breeds too]
Spay/Neuter in dogs is also associated with a 3-4 fold increased risk
of hypothyroidism [6], a doubled risk of obesity [7], as well as an
increased risk of splenic [8] and cardiac hemangiosarcomas [9],
diabetes (in males) [10], fatal acute pancreatitis (in females) [11],
cranial cruciate ligament rupture [12], urinary incontinence [13,14],
and geriatric cognitive impairment (in males) [15]. These are all
do***ented in the veterinary medical research literature.
"More than 120 representatives from universities, animal welfare
organizations, foundations, companies, and government agencies
from 11 countries gathered to share information and plan for the
future". Main site: http://www.acc-d.org/
"On the negative side, neutering male dogs if done before maturity,
increases the risk of osteosarcoma (bone cancer) by a factor of 3.8;
this is a common ancer in medium/large and larger breeds with a
poor prognosis.
increases the risk of cardiac hemangiosarcoma by a factor of 1.6;
this is a common cancer and major cause of death in some breeds
triples the risk of hypothyroidism
increases the risk of geriatric cognitive impairment
triples the risk of obesity, a common health problem in dogs with
it the many associated health problems associated with obesity
· quadruples the small risk (<0.6%) of prostate cancer
· doubles the small risk (<1%) of urinary tract cancers
· increases the risk of orthopedic disorders
· increases the risk of adverse reactions to vaccinations
Hemangiosarcoma is a common cancer in dogs. It is a major
cause of death in some breeds, such as Salukis, French Bulldogs,
Irish Water Spaniels, Flat Coated Retrievers, Golden Retrievers,
Boxers, Afghan Hounds, English Setter, Scottish Terrier, Boston
Terrier, Bulldogs, and German Shepherd Dogs24.
In an aged-matched case controlled study, spayed females were
found to have a 2.2 times higher risk of splenic hemangiosarcoma
compared to intact females24.
A retrospective study of cardiac hemangiosarcoma risk factors
found a >5 times greater risk in spayed female dogs compared
to intact female dogs and a 1.6 times higher risk in neutered male
dogs compared to intact male dogs.25
The authors suggest a protective effect of *** hormones against
hemangiosarcoma, especially in females.
In breeds where hermangiosarcoma is an im****tant cause of
death, the increased risk associated with spay/neuter is likely
one that should factor into decisions on whether or when to
sterilize a dog.
Hypothyroidism
Spay/neuter in dogs was found to be correlated with a three fold
increased risk of hypothyroidism compared to intact dogs. The
researchers suggest a cause-and-effect relation****p26.
They wrote: "More im****tant [than the mild direct impact on thyroid
function] in the association between [spaying and] neutering and
hypothyroidism may be the effect of *** hormones on the immune
system.
Castration increases the severity of autoimmune thyroiditis in mice"
which may explain the link between spay/neuter and hypothyroidism
in dogs.
"Dr. Spain, who has been recently involved in many studies *****sing
the long-term risks and benefits of early-age neutering, presented
convincing data about the effects of spay/neuter on hip dysplasia,
cranial cruciate ligament rupture, long bone development, body
weight, diabetes, urinary tract infections, mammary cancer, and
several other conditions."
> Mustang Sally
Here's racetrack silly HURTIN INTIMIDATIN an
MURDERIN "sheltered an rescued" in her "shelter"
and LYIN abHOWET IT:
From:
Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:29:13 -0700
Subject: Re: dog-puppy relations
HOWEDY racetrack silly you pathetic miserable
stinkin lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active
accute chronic life long incurable malignant mental
case and RESCUE / SHELTER scam artist / fraud,
"sighthounds & siberians" <x...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 17:56:24 +1200,
> "~shady angel~" <an...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>Lynne wrote:
>>> on Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:40:19 GMT,
>>> "~shady angel~" <an...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I know it's when they are making no noise and
>>>> going at it is when one should worrie.
>>> And you know this how?
PERHAPS on accHOWENTA ~shady angel~ KEPT
the dog longer than TWO DAYS instead of bringin
IT back the the "shelter" where they'd likely MURDER
IT for ATTACKING HER for ABUSIN IT like HOWE
lynne done to her LAST TWO "RESCUE" dogs.
REMEMBER?
>>> Because mine never make noise when they are
>>> "going at it." As far as I know, they both still
>>> have all of their body parts in tact. Well, except
>>> for Roxy's uterus, but she hasn't had that for a
>>> very long time and Hendrix had nothing to do
>>> with it.
Well THAT makes PERFECT sense. Don't it.
>> Just in my experience when my dog wants to
>> frighten a dog he makes noise, if he's going to
>> hurt a dog he doesn't make a sound.
Seel? She DIDN'T DUMP her fear aggressive
dog like HOWE lynne an racetrack silly prefer.
>> I'm not saying I've had alot of exprience with this
>> as I've only seen it happen with my dog once and
>> he was only protecting me from a unprovoked
>> attack from the neighbours pit x masstif.
UNLIKE any of HOWER regular dog lovers who's
own dogs NEVER attacked NO WON in SELF
DEFENSE or defending their ABUSERS. They
ATTACK ANY critter on sight on accHOWENTA
they KNOW they're gonna GET HURT WON way
or the other.
>> Please dont take it personally I'm only putting
>> out my opinion.
> I think to some extent that may be true -
That so?
> if a dog wants to tell another dog to
> back off, he's going to vocalize.
Dogs "vocalize" when they're AFRAID.
THAT'S HOWE COME you always see
PROFESSIONALLY TRAINED ATTACK
dogs barking and foaming at the MHOWETH.
> Some dogs may attack without 'verbal' warning.
Yeah. Like when TRAINED attack dogs AIN'T
AFRAID and ain't being choked and RESTRAINED.
> However, years ago we had two female dogs
> that used to mix it up periodically - these were
> serious fights, always resulting in injuries -
Yeah. Well, LUCKY THING we can TRAIN dogs
not to attack NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by
PRAISING them when they're AFRAID and NOT
JERKIN CHOKIN an SHOCKIN THEM <{}: ~ ) >
> and they definitely made noise that I will never forget.
And so you MURDERED 'em.
LIKE THIS:
"After Numerous Training Cl*****, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness," mustang sally.
"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.
I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia
tech at our local shelter for a while, and
I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted
animals.
This however has nothing at all to do with
responsible breeders, because responsible
breeders don't contribute to that problem,"
Mustang Sally.
AND LIKE THIS:
From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:30:40 -0500
Subject: Re: my brother's dog
Assuming you could have found someone who knew
what they were doing. When the problems with Justy
and Tasha started, we contacted everyone we could
think of, including the Dal rescue people and trainers.
There weren't any behaviorists around, but someone,
I don't remember who, referred us to one in another
state who did phone consultations!
Of course, that was of limited value. In retrospect,
I still think that situation was unsalvageable. But
we sure learned a lot about multi-dog interactions,
dog aggression and managing less severe fighting
situations.
It was months before hearing a dog growl
didn't make my heartbeat race.
Mustang Sally
From: "YourConscience" <YourLastInnocentHonestQuestionAnswered
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 23 May 2005
Subject: Re: My lab seems to get targeted
at the dog park
HOWEDY racetrack silly aka disgusted,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
> On 23 May 2005 10:41:59 -0700, TheAmazingPuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >HOWEDY racetrack silly,
> >sighthounds & siberians wrote:
> >> On 21 May 2005 19:23:51 -0700, dinglejingl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >> <major snippage>
> >> I'm neither a trainer nor an expert,
> > RIGHT. But you ARE a mentally ill lying
> > dog abusing punk thug coward and president
> > of the GH RESCUE that MURDERS 66% of
> > their RESCUE dogs.
> Are you reading this, Lucy? The above is a flat-out
> lie. Does that matter to you at all, or is it OK
> for Jerry to make up whatever **** he wants to
> 'sup****t' his lunatic claims?
> Mustang Sally (disgusted)
You mean, lunatic lies, like this?:
Mustang Sally, President of the Board
Killing dogs and getting paid for it
(at least her "shelter" gets paid for it)
Sally claims she doesn't or didn't get paid
to kill dogs as the President of the Board
From: sighthounds etc. (greypigho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Not Working in the Shelter :}
Date: 2002-06-26 16:53:21 PST
It probably wouldn't hurt, and a dose of reality
might be helpful, too. I'm president of the board
of our local shelter. The new board has almost
succeeded in pulling the APL out of financial ruin,
and very soon now we'll be able to turn our
attention to making improvements in our shelter,
increasing adoptions, etc.
We are in the largest county in our state, and it's
also one of the poorest. We take in around 3,000
animals a year and euthanize two-thirds of them.
============
HOWE COME YOU MURDER DOGS
FOR MONEY AN CALL IT RESCUE
and DENY IT despite that you've posted it?
You'd HAVE TO BE INSANE, schizophrenic:
From: lucyaa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tues, May 24 2005 3:06 am
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
> On 23 May 2005 10:41:59 -0700, TheAmazingPuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> > HOWEDY racetrack silly,
> > sighthounds & siberians wrote:
> >> On 21 May 2005 19:23:51 -0700, dinglejingl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >> <major snippage>
> >> I'm neither a trainer nor an expert,
> > RIGHT. But you ARE a mentally ill lying
> > dog abusing punk thug coward and president
> > of the GH RESCUE that MURDERS 66% of their
> > RESCUE dogs.
> Are you reading this, Lucy? The above is a flat-out lie.
From:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.pets.dogs.behavior/msg/b51f2b...
<<It probably wouldn't hurt, and a dose of reality
might be helpful, too. I'm president of the board
of our local shelter. The new board has almost
succeeded in pulling the APL out of financial ruin,
and very soon now we'll be able to turn our attention
to making improvements in our shelter, increasing
adoptions, etc. We are in the largest county in our
state, and it's also one of the poorest. We take in
around 3,000 animals a year and euthanize two-
thirds of them.>>
Nope. No lie. Two thirds=66%. Actually, closer
to 67%. IS that really what "rescue" means, Sally?
Killing 2 out of every 3 dogs one "rescues"?
Geeez!
> Does that matter to you at all, or is it OK for Jerry to make > up
> whatever **** he wants to 'sup****t' his lunatic claims?
What exactly was "made up" by Jerry, then?
The part about your "mental illness"? Why, you
call him "lunatic", so you're both even on that.
Though I still can't help wondering how "sane"
someone who loves dogs can be when running
a shelter that puts down two thirds of the dogs
it "rescues".
> Mustang Sally (disgusted)
Lucy (likewise)
----------------------
"Sally Hennessey" <greyho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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Nope. No more than you'd convince Patch that
prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
own dogs and their reactions better than someone
who has never seen them or us...hmmm.
I'm starting to see some similarities here.
Sally Hennessey
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:23:46 +0100
Local: Mon, Apr 9 2001 5:23 am
Subject: Re: shock collars
Sally Hennessey <greyho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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from being incredibly offensive and self-
righteous, this post shows and absence of knowledge
in the differences in dogs' temperaments, or perhaps
a lack of ability to perceive same.
The fact that you, Alison, have never met a dog
to whom corrections and discomfort, even pain, were
unim****tant does not mean that such dogs do not exist.
What it means is that you don't know as much about dogs
as you think you do, and you surely don't know a damn
thing about Harlan or anyone else's dog here.
I had a Dalmatian that would instigate fights with one
of her housemates; that dog had no fear or anything,
and pain incurred during a fight meant nothing to her.
I know that that dog is not unique, and I'm sure many
people here can tell similar stories. The fact that you,
Alison, continue to say things to people such as what
you said to Theresa about causing her dog to suffer
(at least I guess that's what you meant by "you cause
your dog suffers" - - must be the King's English you
guys talk about over there) means that you are an
ignorant, arrogant, insensitive person who is not worth
further notice.
Sally Hennessey
> That one looks like Zeke, and that one looks
> like Matty, and that one looks like the dog we
> placed last month...
Yeah? HOWE abHOWET the dogs you've murdered?
COMPLAININ abHOWET someWON fighting dogs
while you blatantly MURDER them withHOWET at
least a CHANCE is like a pickpocket in a crowd screamin
"WATCH HOWET FOR PICKPOCKETS":
Subject: Re: Mojo's last day-a year later
From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007
On 10 Jun 2007 01:16:09 GMT, Terri <Te...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> I had no idea, only that you'd gone through a horrible
> period losing so many animals.I hope you don't mind
> me asking some questions here.
Not at all.
> Did you have a problem with the veins
> collapsing such as Mojo did?
No; what happened with Boomer, the world's most
loving Siberian, is that he had lumbosacral stenosis,
which is why he was going to the Bridge in the first
place - he'd had discomfort and mobility problems
for some time but still bounded around with his odd
rocking horse gait, happy to be alive, until that Friday
evening when his back end just gave out and he couldn't
get up. But our usual vet, the senior guy, isn't in on
Saturdays, and this vet didn't know about his back
problem, and I think the position she put him in on the
table aggravated it. But I also have to say that for some
reason, Boomer was agitated as soon as I put him in the
van to go to the vet that morning, which was very unusual
for him.
He kind of whined off and on to the vet and acted
as though he were in distress at the vet's until the
euthanasia solution kicked in.
It was very unnerving and, as with you
and Mojo, not something I like to remember.
> Do you feel it was a lack of experience that caused
> the problem, the bedside manner or the fact you didn't
> know him/her very well?
Lack of experience. Her bedside manner was fine;
she was very kind. But she didn't know Boomer, and
I guess she didn't look at his chart or she'd have seen
he had back problems, and I didn't think to tell her
until it was too late. Obviously, I wasn't thinking as
clearly as I hopefully do ordinarily, but that's a good
reason to never have an unfamiliar vet euthanize one's
animals.
> And most im****tantly, what do you know of backup
> plans that can be put into place in the event it isn't
> going well initially andneeds to be quickly ended,
> keeping the tension out of it?
In Boomer's case, I think she was a bit unnerved by
his crying (not screaming), and tried to speed it up.
I chose not to say anything about his back at that
point and reposition him because I didn't want to
prolong it.
I honestly don't know the answer to your question
about backup plans. We have never had a problem
when the senior vet does the procedure - - unlike
many, maybe most vets, he does not use a sedative
beforehand, because he says that slows down the
dog's system and prolongs the process. Sighthounds
have these big old hearts that sometimes want to keep
going, so he tends to use more euthanasia solution than
needed, and I think that what he does is just give a
huge dose that would drop a small horse.
The result is *always* that the dog loses consciousness
and dies very quickly. Peaceful each and every time, and
the dog doesn't have the added discomfort of an extra
IV or catheter.
>> You still gave Mojo the gift of release from pain.
> Eventually. :(
I know. But dogs live in and for the moment, and we humans can take a
big
lesson from that. A dog would
never keep remembering and torturing itself the way
you and your DH and I have.
I know Boomer would forgive those last moments, as
he forgave everything else, and I'm sure Mojo would as
well. FWIW, you did the exact right thing by calling a
halt to the procedure and calming everybody, especially Mojo down.
To lighten the moment, I will tell you what happened
when we put Tasha down on April 28. Tasha was a
most awesome Siberian Husky. She was 14 and we
got her from a pound when she was about a year. To
say she was intelligent is like saying Paris Hilton is
spoiled. She once found our greyhound Matty in some
woods about 6 miles from home, where he hid during
the 36 hours he was lost - DH said "find Matty", and
damned if she didn't. She once grabbed the neck of a
dog that DH was unsuccessfully trying to prevent from
attacking another dog - just closed her jaws and held on.
Anyway, she'd had osteosarcoma for 22 months and it
showed signs of having spread to her brain, and she had
impaired kidney function as well. We were dreading this
day like never before. Oddly enough, I believe Tasha was
ready. She was always our alpha, a supremely confident
dog with a great deal of pride. On the table, her front paw
shook and DH - - she was always his girl - - held it.
As always with this vet, it was very smooth and peaceful
(he particularly liked her, said she reminded him of that
female lead dog on Eight Below) and she was gone very quickly.
Just as the vet and tech left the room and closed the door,
leaving DH and me alone with Tasha, her head came up,
facing the door, and her tongue stuck out.
DH couldn't help laughing - said she'd gotten the last
word. Yes, we know it was just a reflex, but it was somehow fitting.
I hope you don't mind me asking: have you ever
discussed this with another vet? If Mojo's reaction
was caused by his veins collapsing (and I've heard
of that but not heard of it causing that result), why
was the vet able to complete the procedure? Did he
have something in the second syringe to dilate the veins?
Mustang Sally
-------------------
> Yes, I'd be equally outraged if they were another
> breed, or another species. But when their faces
> look just like the ones you see in your house every
> day,
Seems all the dogs in your HOWES have laryngeal
paralysis, spondylosis / spinal / inverterbral disc
DIS-EASE, seizures and other STRESS INDUCED
AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES from you constantly
jerking choking and shocking them:
From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 09:12:56 -0500
Subject: Seiure land
OK, living in this house is an epileptic Greyhound that
hasn't had a seizure in 3 years, and epileptic IG that has
a seizure (sometimes GM, but inconsistent) every couple
of months or so, a non-epileptic Siberian that has a GM
seizure every year or so, and a very badly bred Miniature
Dachshund that has atypical apparent seizure activity at
irregular intervals (but once on the same day the IG had
one).
So half an hour ago, I hear strange cat howling noises
from the kitchen, and upon investigating, there's Dolce
having a tonic seizure on the kitchen table.
It must be the house.
Mustang Sally
From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:48:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Fencing
It's astounding. We used livestock electric fence
at the bottom of our fence some years back because
of a certain digging husky with wanderlust. This
was fairly new electric fencing, the shock was mild,
said husky touched it any number of times, and I can
guarandamntee you it didn't do anything horrible to
her body or her mind.
If I live to be 100, I will never understand the
mentality of people who have no knowledge of a
subject but still feel free, apparently compelled
even, to opine on that subject.
When it's people in another country,
it's nothing short of mind-boggling.
Mustang Sally
From: sighthounds etc. <greypigho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:21:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Stop Barking Products
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 13:07:02 -0600,
Katra <K...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>"sighthounds etc." wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:50:59 -0600, Katra
>> <K...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Sorry, I don't hang out here enough anymore
> to recognize the morons... :-) Except for Jerry.
They can be difficult to recognize when they pretend
to be someone else. It must be a pretty fun game, as
both Jerry and Mikey devote a lot of time to it, especially
when one considers what busy people they are.
> Bark collars are supposed to work pretty well and a good
> one runs less han $100.00. He ought to just try one and
> see if it works. He won't be out much. <shrugs>
There is some controversy about the humane-ness of
citronella collars because dogs' noses are so sensitive.
I've tried citronella collars on our kenneled adoption
dogs, and they didn't appear to be able to figure out
the connection between their noise and the squirt.
> Or keep the dog inside.....
Now that's a pretty foolproof method of
dealing with problematic outdoor barking.
Mustang Sally
From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:43:17 -0500
Subject: Re: New dog, need reassurance
The owner is the critical thing though - - you set the rules,
you decide what's acceptable, your attitude conveys that to
your dogs.
We currently have two males that really don't get along.
To minimize stress for animals and humans,
they are kept separate.
No amount of training or alpha attitude is going to change
how they feel about each other, but they won't go after each
other if DH or I is/am present.
They will we're not around, though.
Mustang Sally
From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 09:48:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Fencing
It's astounding. We used livestock electric fence
at the bottom of our fence some years back because
of a certain digging husky with wanderlust. This
was fairly new electric fencing, the shock was mild,
said husky touched it any number of times, and I can
guarandamntee you it didn't do anything horrible to
her body or her mind.
If I live to be 100, I will never understand the
mentality of people who have no knowledge of a
subject but still feel free, apparently compelled
even, to opine on that subject.
When it's people in another country,
it's nothing short of mind-boggling.
Mustang Sally
From: sighthounds & siberians <x...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 10:57:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Fear aggression
While most of my dogs are well-behaved when left
alone unconfined, my Whippets are not, and it is
simply not possible to sufficiently proof' my home
from dogs that can jump baby gates and get onto
tables and counters when no one is home.
No, of course they don't do that when we're
home, but they sure do when we're gone.
They aren't really destructive, though my female that enjoys
chewing up plastic, but they're very food oriented, and their
definition of food differs from ours, so they're crated for
their own protection. I've found crate training to be very
useful when a dog is ill or injured and needs to be confined
for medical purposes; and this happens more often than you
might think.
I hate to spoil the image of cruel Americans locking up their
dogs in boxes all day, but, well, it's BS, so there you go.
To the OP: it's very difficult to say what's going on
with your dog without observing him. I've had several
very fearful dogs, one of which had some minor fear
aggression when she felt absolutely trapped, but this
resolved on its own as she became more confident.
If there are specific things which trigger Sunny's fear
aggression,you could work on desensitizing her to those
things, but in general, I think you need either a behaviorist
or a very good trainer who deals with aggression problems.
Mustang Sally
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"After Numerous Training Cl*****, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."
"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.
I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia
tech at our local shelter for a while, and
I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted
animals.
This however has nothing at all to do with
responsible breeders, because responsible
breeders don't contribute to that problem,"
Mustang Sally.
> it seems more personal and there's
> more of an emotional impact.
Yeah. It SEEMS professional fightin dogs AT
LEAST STAND A CHANCE of makin it HOWET
ALIVE <{}: ~ ( >
> Mustang Sally
Oh, bye the bye, racetrack silly, you and your lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active accute
chronic life long incurable malignant mental case
pals CAN'T POST your lies abuse and idiocy here
abHOWETS nodoGdameneD MOORE.
"Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
-Friedrich Schiller
"Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain."
INDEEDY.
THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!:
In Love And Light,
I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours,
Jerry Howe,
The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
G-R-A-N-D
Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Ferret, Goat, Monkey
SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >
HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >
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