HOWEDY misslilybug, you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
lyin dog an child abusin punk thug coward active acute chronic
life-long incurable malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL CASE
and professional SPAMMER, CON-ARTIST,
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"MissLilyBug" <misslilybug@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On May 30, 12:08 am, BDKesling <BDKesling.2855...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>> Hi, I found the forum while looking for aggression training help on the
>> internet. My wife and I have two kids (14 years, and 9 months), two
>> dogs, and a cat. All the animals were strays or adopted from a
>> shelter. Our older dog is a complete mix, I have no idea what breeds
>> may have contributed to him. We've had him since he was a puppy.
>> Graydon was very high energy as a pup, but has settled as he's aged.
>> He's about 9 years old.
>>
>> Our other dog is the problem. We got Greta in 2001. She was about 2
>> years old at the time. She was a stray, was emaciated, and was very
>> shy. We had a fenced yard, and I lured her in with a turkey leg.
>
>> After a month of daily feedings, I was able to pet her and we took her
>> to a vet to get shots and to get fixed. Since then, we've moved a few
>> times. We have trained the dogs on an invisible fence.
>
>> Now for the problems... Greta is completely submissive with me, my
>> wife, or my daughter. With some dogs, Greta is fine and will play like
>> a puppy.
>
>> There have been a few instances that may lead to us getting rid of her,
>> though. Two times now, other neighbors dogs have come into the yard
>> and have been aggressive with Greta.
>
>> In both instances, Greta was very reactive and violent. If a
dog/person
>> (UPS drivers in particular) or small animal is out of the yard and
Greta
>> is excited, she will attack our other dog Graydon.
>>
>> Our invisible fence stopped working last week. Tonight Greta left the
>> yard for the first time in two years (we walk her on a leash, she
>> hasn't left the yard on her own since we've been here). She left the
>> yard to go after a collie that was being walked, and she bit a tuft of
>> fur from the collie. The collie is very aggressive with our dogs when
>> we are walking, it is very aggressive with cars or pedestrians that go
>> by its house, and is known to the neighborhood to be "crazy".
>
>
>> Regardless of the collie's behavior, I have to get control of my dog.
>> I need an effective training program for her behavior, or I'll have to
>> put her down.
>
>
>> I've spent a lot of time in the yard with her, making her sit when
>> other dogs go by, making her sit or lay down whenever she gets
>> aggressive in any way. When I'm not standing over her, she does
>> her own aggressive thing. Every program on the internet claims
>> to be the best, I need some help.
>>
>> If you've read this far, then thank you very much for just that.
>> If you've got any advice, I'd greatly appreciate it.
>> Brian
>>
>> --
>> BDKesling
>
> Oh my lord, did you read that long post yet?????!!!!!
You mean the WON that TOLD Brian HOWE to TRAIN his
dog withHOWET HURTIN an INTIMIDATIN IT NEARLY
INSTANTLY and FOR FREE, to boot, simply by DOIN EVERY
THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE you
recommend, miss pathetic lyin dog an child abusin coward MENTAL
CASE??
> He drops by,
No, miss mental case, YOU 'dropped by' to The Sincerely
Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing, Majestic
Grand Master Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Goat, Ferret,
Monkey, SpHOWES, And Horsey Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Training Method Manual Forums
And Human And Animal Behavior Forensic Sciences
Research Laboratory and proceeded to EMBARRASS yourself.
> I don't know how anyone can read his long posts,
Teachin folks HOWE to pupperly handle, raise an train
their dogs withHOWET jerkin chokin an shocking them
takes a lotta WORDS, miss MENTAL CASE.
> they are so crazy!
INDEED? Here's your DEAD DOG who recently DROPPED
DEAD from a HEART CONdition wearin his PRONGED
SPIKED PINCH CHOKE COLLAR that you PAID a "DOG
TRAINER" $600.00 for two weeks of JERKIN an CHOKIN
to TRAIN IT to BE NICE and not pull or jump on you:
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AND THAT'S HOWE COME HE'S DEAD NHOWE, miss
lyin dog an child abusin punk thug coward active acute chronic
life-long incurable malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL CASE~!
> Anyways,
You mean 'anyHOWE', you pathetic dog an child abusin COWARD.
> you definitely have a problem, but you already know this!
INDEEDY~! He's been SHOCKIN his dog an THAT'S HOWE
COME he's FEAR AGGRESSIVE, miss MENTAL CASE.
> I think it is wonderful that you are adopting strays
> and getting them fixed.
Actually, NO, miss DOG ABUSIN MENTAL CASE, Brian
KIDNAPPED WON of them dogs off the street and took IT
to be surgically ***ually MUTILATED which CAUSES LIFE
LONG LIFE THREATENING TEMPERAMENT an HEELTH
PROBLEMS, like FEAR AGGRESSION, DEMENTIA, THYROID
and PITUITARY CANCERS, ORTHOPEDIC, ENZYME,
HORMONE, ENDOCRINE SYSTEM / AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-
EASES, you pathetic piece of dog an child abusin CRAP <{}: ~ ( >
> More people should be like you.
In DECENT societies it's ILLEGAL to kidnap an SHOCK
an surgically ***ually mutilate innocent defenseless dumb
critters like HOWE Brian done, you pathetic dog an child
abusin coward.
> Give this site a try-http://offto.net/3eoa13/
THAT'S the cesar millan / adam katz MAFIA webring, missy.
IT'S A SCAM to SELL "training" books and videos that DON'T
WORK till "you've TRIED EVERY THING" and are willin to
resort to BUYIN their FOUR HUNDRED DOLLAR SHOCK
COLLAR and PAY $600.00 for PROFESSIONAL SHOCK
COLLAR TRAININ LESSONS, just like HOWE you done,
miss lyin dog an child abusin SCAM ARTIST <{}'; ~ ) >
> It can help you with all sorts of training issues.
NO, IT CAN'T, miss dog abuser. It CAN teach you to offer
and withHOWELD BRIBES and lock your dog in a box and
IGNORE ITS CRIES and JERK an CHOKE IT on a pronged
spiked pinch choke collar JUST LIKE HOWE YOU DONE
till you can AFFORD to BUY a nice SHOCK COLLAR an
PAY for the PROFESSIONAL TRAININ you'll need to learn
HOWE to HURT and INTIMIDATE your dog like HOWE the
ces and adam katz does, missy <{}: ~ ( >
> Hope you find the help you need!
As a matter of fact, I've COPIED the "AD-VICE" from your
imbecile SPAM website for your edification and humiliation:
> Animals & Nature
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First of all, MISS-lily-bug, your spam blog comes complete with
EVERY THING you need to become a professional SPAMMER:
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INDEED, Drumroll please, Mr. Maestro <{}: ~ ) >
> Re****t this Lens
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You think The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
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Majestic Grand Master Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Goat,
Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES, And Horsey Wizard is forwardin
misslilybug's SPAM to Squido on accHOWENTA she's SELLIN
BAD ADVICE to HURT and INTIMIDATE dogs on HIS FREE
FORUMS.
> 7 Day Puppy Housebreaking
HOWEsbreakin is INSTINCTIVE at four weeks of age, missSPAMMER.
> Stop Inside Peeing & Pooping Fast Housebreaking Your
> Puppy In 7 Days HousebreakingMyPuppy.com
Seems "trey stevens" SELLS her own HOWEsbreakin "method"
independently of "daniel stevens" and his "sit-stay-fetch" SCAM.
MIGHT they be a tag team of independent false names for adam
katz, the notoriHOWES SPAMMER / SCAM ARTIST SHOCK
COLLAR SALESMAN?
Here's chet womack, his competitor:
> Train Any Dog in 6 Days
> Potty Train Any Dog in 6 Days. Plus Solutions To 19 Dog Problems!
> www.TheDogTrainingSecret.com:
"Participate In My Marketing Test And
I'll Give You A HUGE 50% Discount...
.... Plus I'll Give You SIX Super Bonuses --
Valued At $147.98 But Yours FREE!
*** Warning: Available for the next 3 days only! ***
For the last four months, I've been secretly working on some brand-new dog
training guides. They're ALMOST ready for me to start selling to the
public,
but before I do, I'd like to get some feedback on them from regular people
just like you!
So as part of a special marketing test, for the next 3 days only, I've
decided to give away these SIX super bonuses to anyone who claims my
"Hands-Off Dog Training Program" -- it's a $147.98 value, yours absolutely
FREE!
All I ask is that you agree to participate in a quick, 10-minute phone
survey if you happen to be one of the random people I call and give your
HONEST opinion about these bonuses!
And of course, whether I call you for the survey or not, you'll
get to KEEP these 6 super bonuses no matter what!"
Seems "chet womack's" "METHOD" is WON day faster
than "trey stevens'" "METHOD" which MUST be far
superior to "daniel stevens'" method of LOCKIN IT in
a box and IGNORING ITS CRIES an sprayin aversives
into ITS face when bribery don't work.
Here's the SCAM, miss SPAM ARTIST: When these GENTLE
DOG WHISPERING methods FAIL, they REFUND your hard
earned dough an GIVE YOU a DISCOUNT on the NEXT LEVEL
of ABUSIVE TRAININ METHODS, till you've used up ALL your
options OTHER THAN to BUY their SHOCK COLLAR and HIRE
a PROFESSIONAL SHOCK COLLAR TRAINER.
> Have you been looking for some dog training tips?
> I have some here for you!
> You will be able to find some basic dog training tips in this lens.
> Anyone who is "owned" by a dog will get some wonderful information
> here.
Yeah, we'll be REVIEWING it RIGHT HERE PUBICLY
on The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
Amazing, Majestic Grand Master Puppy, Child, *****,
Birdy, Goat, Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES, And Horsey
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Training Method
Manual Forums And Human And Animal Behavior Forensic
Sciences Research Laboratory <{}:~ ) >
> A Donation!
You mean you're BEGGIN??
> I will make a donation to the ASPCA for every
> purchase made here on my site.
The ASPCA is a SCAM, miss SPAMMER. Can you
substantiate having EVER given even WON CENT to them?
>Thank you for caring!
Thank you for showin us your filthy underpants~!
Taking your informative webblog HOWETA order, we'll
start with your most ignorameHOWES, viciHOWES advice:
> Barking
>
> Does your dog bark constantly? Is she upsetting the neighbors?
> Would you like to stop this? Here are some dog training tips to help.
Dogs bark when sumpthin's WRONG.
Barkin is a SYMPTOM of anXXXIHOWESNESS.
> Give your dog the cold shoulder. If she is barking for your attention,
> and this is inappropriate, turn your back to her.
That'll FRUSTRATE the dog, miss dog lover.
> Don't say a word, even "no" is off limits.
"No" has NO behavioral benefit for dogs or children, miss dog
an child abusin punk thug coward active acute chronic life long
incurable malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL CASE:
A. S. Neill, The Famous Founder of The Summerhill
School, Used To Cure Delinquent Children Way Back
In The 1950's By Paying Them For Every Time They
Wet The Bed Or Broke A Pane Of Glass And Their
Behaviour Would Stop, - As If By MAGICK!
The Embry Study:
"While some may find it strange that reprimands
might increase the chances of a child going into
the street, the literature on the experimental analysis
of behavior is replete with examples of how "attention
to inappropriate behavior" increases the chances of
more inappropriate behavior.
Thus, suggestions to parents that they talk to or reason
with their children about da****ng into the street will
likely to have the opposite impact.
Reprimands do not punish unsafe behavior; they reward it."
Source:
"Reducing the Risk of Pedestrian Accidents to
Preschoolers by Parent Training and Symbolic
Modeling for Children: An Experimental Analysis
in the Natural Environment. Research Re****t
Number 2 of the Safe-Playing Project."
"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
(Azrin et al, 1966)."
IOW, emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov:
"Motivation Of The Resistance To Coercion "-- PAVLOV
"Reflexes of purpose and freedom" in the comparative
physiology of higher nervous activity, Institute of Higher
Nervous Activity and Neurophysiology, Academy of Sciences,
Moscow:
The most complex unconditioned "reflexes of aim and
freedom," discovered by I.P. Pavlov, are compared
with the "competence drive" and the "motivation of the
resistance to coercion," respectively, described by
contem****ary ethologists.
On the basis of the unconditioned "reflex of purpose,"
conditioned reflexes were developed in which positive
emotions arising in connection with the perfection of a
skill, irrespective of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement.
The unconditioned "reflex of freedom" is regarded as a
phylogenetic precursor of the will, and its acute extinction
as the physiological mechanism of hypnosis. It was
demonstrated experimentally that the appearance of the
state of "animal hypnosis" (immobilization catatonia) in
rabbits is accompanied by the predominance of electrical
activity and heat production in the right hemisphere, i.e.,
by symptoms which are found in hypnosis in man.
Simonov PV</h4>
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Professional trainer and author LeeCharlesKelley wrote:
Thanks, Jerry, that's a helpful bit from the guy
who started it all. This shows what we've been
saying: that teaching the dog to play fetch,
regardless of its usefulness in the eventual
search part of the training program, is a
powerful motivator and reinforcer.
Of course these idiots (pardon my being blunt)
don't see using food and clickers as being a
form of coercion. Maybe they've been hypnotized
by Karen Pryor, et al.
Professional trainer and author LeeCharlesKelley wrote:
From: "LeeCharlesKelley" <kelleymet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 00:02:28 -0400
Subject: Re: Your Training Modality is Driving Your Dogs Crazy
Leah:
>>Is there something wrong with being curious?
Morrison:
> You're not curious, Leah. IMO, you're just wishy-washy.
Kelley: I don't have the same history that you seem to have with Leah,
but I hardly think being open to exploring new ideas qualifies as being
"wishy-washy". To me it shows intelligence. But then, from what I've
seen, you've demonstrated a singular kind of black-and-white mentality
and a highly ignorant closed-mindedness.
Morrison:
> You keep thinking that there's some "new" method out there
> that will VOILA!, magically transform you into a great trainer,
> and overnight, too.
>
> It just doesn't work that way.
Kelley: Actually, that's *exactly* how it worked with me. Within the
first day of using these techniques I went from becoming a run-of-the-
mill dog trainer to being pretty damn good, if I do say so myself, and
all simply by testing the techniques, just to see if they worked.
I've said from the beginning that if I can get the kind of amazing
results I do when I'm not really a dog trainer at heart, but a writer,
then someone who's really a dog trainer at heart would become a
far better trainer than I am instantly, just by using these methods.
Somewhere along the line, however, I discovered a dirty little secret
about the mentality of most dog trainers: they only *became* trainers
because they liked the feeling of power and control it gave them. If
that's the case with you, then you definitely wouldn't like natural dog
training because it ultimately teaches a dog how to control his own
behavior.
In fact in some ways, it forces you to turn your need for control over
to the dog because the method only works when you put your trust
in a dog's natural instincts instead of fighting against them all the
time.
That's because when you put yourself in alignment with a dog's instincts,
the dog will naturally obey you under any and all cir***stances because
group harmony and cooperation, when properly nurtured, are the most
fundamental aspects of a dog's nature.
I came across the following quote recently, and though I have no idea
who Edward Hoagland is, I think what he says here speaks volumes:
"In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be
semi-human.
The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of
becoming partly a dog." - Edward Hoagland
Leah:
>> This "praise the dog when he misbehaves" thing keeps
>> coming up, and nobody has been able to explain it to me.
Morrison:
>That's because no one can.
Actually, Jerry Howe explains it pretty well. And as for the incident I
related where I praised my dog when he found a juicy chicken breast
and my praise caused him to drop it, and subsequently got him to stop
scavenging altogether, merely by praising him everytime he found
something, the answer is pretty clear.
He didn't pick up that chicken breast because he was hungry, he did
it because he was looking for something to do that would satisfy an
inner emotional need, relating to his instincts. When I praised him,
suddenly and very enthusiastically, he dropped the chicken breast
because the praise provided him with more emotional satisfaction
than the chicken breast did at that particular moment.
You could look at this as being an example of pure operant
conditioning, if you like (though you'd be wrong), but it would
still mean that you would have to give up your beliefs about
what praise is and how and why it works, and you don't
strike me as someone who's capable of even *questioning*
your beliefs, let alone capable of giving them up.
Morrison:
> every single method out there is based on CC and/or OC.
> That's a fact.
Kelley: No, it's not a fact. The only reason it seems factual to you is
because the basic premise of behavioral science is tautological in nature
(and also because, IMO, you have a tiny mind). In my estimation it's
more likely that there are little green men on Mars than that what you
think is operant conditioning is what's really taking place when a dog
learns *anything*.
Dogs do not learn things by association or by repetition or by trial
and error, but through their emotions, pure and simple. Even
Pavlov said: "Positive emotions arising in connection with the
perfection of a skill, irrespective of its pragmatic significance at
a given moment, serve as the reinforcement."
Of course, even Pavlov got it wrong on the most basic level, since
there really is no such thing as a reinforcement, but that's another
story for another day.
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> Use your hands- place your hand around her muzzle, and keep
> a firm grip. If you need to take your other hand and keep it on
> her collar to help. Don't take your hand off until she is done
> fighting you. When she is done, leave it there for a couple more
> seconds to show her you are the alpha.
THAT'S CRUEL AND INSANE.
Dogs can GO INSANE an DIE from EXXXCESSIVE barking.
We just had TWO DOGS DROP DEAD on this forum from
EXXXCESSIVE BARKIN while they was bein boarded <{}: ~ ( >
You can EXXXTINGUISH EXXXCESSIVE barkin NEARLY
INSTANTLY simply by PRAISING the FEARFUL / NEEDY dog.
LIKE THIS:
Estel J. Hines" <ejhi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:w86dna9lBfNZgbTdRVn-hA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
i read the Jerry method of Bark
reduction, it went something like this
with our 11 month old puppy "Yo****"
Yo****: Bark, bark,
us: HUSH You****
Yo**** Bark, bark......................
us: Hush You****
Yo**** BARK, BARK, BARK, ..........
it stopped when Yo**** got tired barking
We decided to try the Jerry method:
Yo****: BARK, BARK
US: GOOD Yo****, Good Boy, who is it?
Yo**** Bark, Bark
US: It's ok, good boy Yo****, We know them.
Yosh without fail, now stops after we say that.
I must say, it is so much more fun, when we
can praise him, to deal with things like this.
Thanks Jerry
ps: We are just starting to go thru the Jerry
Papers, and learn how to live with our son
"Yo****", whom we love very much. --
Best Regards,
Estel J. Hines
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AND LIKE THIS:
"Brandy Kurtz" <KraftyKur...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message
news:2f66e35d.0407302331.1f18b8c6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello everyone! We have a 2 1/2 year old male
Well I just printed out the Amazing Puppy
Wizard info, so I haven't actually started
to train yet.
Today a salesman knocked on the door, and Pokey
was going balisstic. I calmly go to the window
to see who it is, and off-handly say Good Boy,
It's a stranger, Good Boy.
Pokey shut right up, gave me a quizical look,
and came and sat beside my feet!
OMG, I could not believe it!
I was totally floored, as this has been his
behavior since a pup. Just wanted to update,
and Pokey and I are hitting the sack...;)
Brandy
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AND LIKE THIS:
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:06 AM
Hello.
I never posted here (or anywhere) before.
I never trained or owned a dog before this
year.
I downloaded the Wit's End, read it, corresponded
with Mr. Howe and trained my dog to come and to
stop barking in a weekend.
Our dog, Jake, had been treated with kindness the
whole time we had him, about 10 months, but his
earlier life is unknown.
I worked on the hot-cold exercise for about 30
minutes when he suddenly "got it". After that
he came to me every time with no hesitation.
I used the cans filled with pennies to teach him
not to bark. If he now starts to bark, I go to the
door or window, say "Good Boy, its' alright" and
he usually calms down right away.
A couple of times I had to get the cans
out again to reinforce the behavior.
We feel a strong bond with this animal
and he is very eager to accept our love.
So with all the vitriolic spewing going on,
I have to believe Mr. Howe is right.
His method worked for us.
I don't know if it would have been quite
as effective if we had tried another method first.
Florence
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AND LIKE THIS:
From: "Marisa" <mari...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002
Subject: one day
I started some of the simple techniques in
Jerrys manual today.
The family pack exercise.... come command.....
that's all so far though.
I did get the proper equipment as well.
20 foot leash, cans with pennies partially
crushed, flat collar, etc.
I have also stopped any negative reinforcment
such as loud "No" and "Bad girl Sonique!"
(Sonique is my Jack russell) and holding her
back, which I normally MUST do or she'll jump
and nip sometimes, but always jumping and barking.
Already tonight some has started working.
When someone came to the door, Sonique
went nuts as usual.
I said "Thank you Sonique!"
"It's o.k. girl, thank you!"
And we got a total of about 6 barks and then
no jumping on guests, no biting, growling
or the worst, the continued barking she
normally does.
She accepted my praise, and trooted around,
still excited over guests, but she was WAY
more under control.
Even my roomates noticed this.
She repeated this same thing
without all her normal fuss later
when another two friends came over.
So I do need more time, going to keep with it
another day, another month whatever until I
know I am getting results, although I must say,
so far I am impressed with my dog.
She really responds to praise better than
she ever has responded to treats as distraction
from the guests and doorbell, or me yelling
"bad girl! go away now! shoosh up!" all the time.
I am also verbally praising her everytime
she makes eye contact with me. so hopefully
things will continue going well!-
- Marisa
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HOWEver, THAT AIN'T GOOD enough for the
pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal murderin
punk thug coward active accute chronic life long
incurable malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL
CASES GIVIN "ADVICE" who's own dogs GOT
THE SAME PROBLEM for the SAME REASON.
> Professional dog trainers are expensive. I'm not saying they
> aren't worth it. The one I have used for my dogs in the
> past (until I found this!)is definitely worth every dime. He
> charges $600.00 for a two week session. Not everyone can
> afford this though. The affordable alternative is to train at home.
THAT'S ABSURD:
Subject: Call me a bad person!
1From: Lynn
Date: Tues, Sep 10 2002 10:10 pm
Email: roudyregal @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Lynn)
I have read all the posts about how bad Jerry HOWE is.
But I make decisions for myself. I am always, as a
kennel owner, looking to improve and pick up new ideas
to further helping our customers with their anxiety
laden pets. Due to the equine training we do, Jerry's
methods caught my eye. NO PRESSURE.
I am sorry to say, that I needed some help re-thinking
how Jerry perceives training. No choke chain? HUH?
Never did like gimmicks for the horses, don't use them.
But not even a choke chain for the puller dog who wants
to bite and take our calves in his mouth, swipe off a heal
now and then, huh?
Jerry, despite his frustration at getting across his
point is entirely different in person. He is so patient,
and cares about what he does, he is obsessive, yes.
I LOVE IT! SO AM I.
We have used his method's HOT & COLD, & FAMILY PACK LEADER****P on two very
difficult breeds, (individuals), who
were indeed borderline.
I was able to difuse both of them with no pain, no harsh
methods, and no punishment, heaven forbid they get punished...
.....(thanks Jerry).
We are now training the owners to learn how to respond, so
the compulsive behaviors do not start again. I have an old
horse book called "There are no problem horses, only problem
owners". Yup, yup.
I was not perfect myself, and having shown years ago, picked
up some bad habits also. Not afraid to admit it! Soon, I hope
to have "The Wits End" manual down pat.
Why pick on a resource that works?
Hmmmmmmm. I do not mind being a mindless follower if some
want to call me that. I follow the method, It goes with my spirit.
No pain = lots of gain. I found Jerry's manual through hunting at
www.doggiedoright.com, or witsend...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
***(current link:
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard)
Sorry to upset you alll, but as they say, anyone can call
themselves a trainer. It's how you train that interests me.
Of course not having to deal with a new mental disorder
after the lesson really helps too!
Thanks Jerry for you patience,
Lynn
------------------
Stefan Karlhoff Wrote:
The Innocent-But-Tragic Mistake Of Hiring A
"Dog-trainer" = Made Our Rottie Fear-Aggressive.
Can't Trust Him Anymore.
Date: 2000-09-19 01:06:42 PST
Stefan Karlhoff wrote:
> If anyone has ever gone through, is going through,
> or is planning to go through with the job of
> training a pedigree dog, do yourself the very
> im****tant favor of NOT getting the dog trained by
> just any so-called dog trainer.
>
> Why? Well, first of all, it's almost like abusive
> parents -- any a@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
can be a parent -- but an
> understanding and caring person would more than
> likely become a good parent; so goes doggie
> "obedience training".
>
> Don't believe such nonsense? Well, come on
> over and I will introduce you to a beautiful 10
> month old rottweiler who was doing just fine
> until we (my spouse and I) made the innocent-
> but-tragic mistake of hiring a "dog- trainer" to
> teach the pup some manners.
>
> HAH! So, after this "trainer" dragged the little
> thing around by a choker collar assuring us that
> that's the way it has always been done, we found
> out the hard way that this type of "obedience" has
> made our Rottie fear-aggressive.
>
> Can't trust him anymore.
>
> If you even look like you are going to grab him, or
> make him nervous, his little mind says "Here it
> comes--pain--force-- well, I'll get them before they
> can get me!!"
>
> Oh brother, right? Well, 9 months and $1000 in
> bite treatment medical bills later, we are left with
> only two choices -- get rid of him (that's the easy
> and unfair way out), or, find a REAL dog trainer.
>
> A feat in itself, but they ARE OUT THERE!!!!
>
> It's all too common; are you aware that over 95
> percent of dog aggression problems come from
> aversion training? From bad parenting? And that
> 100 percent of those dogs are euthanised because
> the owners don't know what to do about it?
>
> Hear this: dogs with true psychotic problems are
> RARE.
>
> Dogs aren't humans, but they are emotional
> creatures, and most of these problem-behavioral
> dogs have the same rut to get out of as do the
> owners. On the same token, the owners of dogs
> with behavioral problems RARELY KNOW how
> to solve those problems.
>
> (I know I've been a ****ning example)
>
> And you don't want to get into my position; it is
> far from easy to undo what damage has already
> been done!
>
> Hopefully one doesn't have to arrive at this
> conclusion after the fact that their sweet poochie
> has turned into Norman Bates.
>
> Part of the reason why I wrote this was to let
> others know of what could be... Who do you go to?
> If you are lucky, you can open the yellow pages,
> look under dog training, and find someone who
> advertises that they specialise in behavioral
> problems.
>
> Not that you have to have a problematic
> puppy, but chances are that that individual holds
> the informal or formal title of Dog Behaviorist, or
> Dog Psycologist. They STUDY DOGS.
>
> OKAY?
>
> If you want a loving and caring dog, not a
> potential CUJO...or a potential WUSSYDOG...
> invest your hard earned $$ with confidence in
> somebody who lives to understand canine
> behavior...it just makes better sense.
>
> Remember, anybody can call themselves a
> dog trainer (Hey, don't need a license to be
> one either).
>
> Your generic dog-trainer may tell you how thier
> methods are always positive; but, if it involves
> bribing your dog with food, yelling at your dog,
> making loud noises to get your pup's attention,
> kneeing if it jumps up, using a choke collar
> or (God Forbid) an electric stimulation, HANG
> UP THE PHONE!
>
> Anything negative or aversive done to your puppy
> could reflect on you LATER! Trust me, I know
> what i'm talking about.
>
> When young kids are smacked around until
> they do what you say, kicked or kneed in the
> gut for being excited, left in the basement and
> ignored as punishment, what kind of people do
> they usually grow up to be?
>
> The moral here is, if you love your dog,
> take the time to educate yourself about
> the breed, and whatever you do, get a
> REAL dog trainer who cares--about
> your feelings and your best friend's
> feelings as well.
>
> But is it more expensive? No, not really...but I'd
> much rather spend 150 bucks on two life-long
> sessions than spending 45 bucks on someone
> to bully my dog into compliance, times three or
> four, and then shell out hundreds more in
> attempts to redeem my dog....
>L
> By the way -- for any dog-trainers that may be
> reading this: please, no offense!
>
> Today my dog is in the process of behavior
> modification. There is hope that he will be able to
> heal and eventually live with us happily. Until
> then, I will continue to let others know about the
> "Recipe to Ruin a Good Dog". I hope you can
> share this with others as well.
>
> Thanks for your time! --C. Karlhoff
You hit the nail right on the head.
This kind of abuse is accepted by the humane
societies, kennel clubs, and even the universities
that teach behavior.
Those are the ones that should be held responsible.
I am a dog trainer, and when I tell people of my
concerns with these issues, they won't believe me.
I watch the same trainers doing the same things,
ruining dogs, getting paid, and then saying the
dog is 90% good, but 10% untrustworthy and
should be destroyed.
People have problems with their dog and abuse is
recommended by all of the trainers and books on the
subject. People talk with other trainers about their
dogs, then I tell them that the advice they've been
given is different than what I offer. By the time they
talk to me, they've already been sold a bill of goods.
When more information for less money and faster
results are offered, people think that I'm up to
something, because I have nothing in common with
everyone else out there.
When a pet professional tell you that dogs don't feel
pain the same way, that corrections are necessary,
choke collars aren't supposed to choke, that you
need to dominate, force, jerk, drag, slap, step on,
pin down, withhold food, shock, or in any manner
abuse, or do any thing that you would not like to
see happen to a young child, go elsewhere.
> SitStayFetch allows you to do this.
IT'S A DOG ABUSIN SCAM.
> For more im****tant dog training tips on barking
> please purchase SitStayFetch.
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> House Training
> Are you pulling your hair out because you are frustrated with
> trying to house train your dog? I have been there and done that!
> That is why you are here, right? I have dog training tips here to
> help you.
>
>Dog training tip #1:
> Pick one spot outside that you prefer to be the toilet area. Use one
> term only to associate your dogs "business"- such as "potty time"
> or "go potty". Don't make it too long either. Don't pet your dog, or
> play with her while she is in this area.
>You want her to associate this area only with the toilet.
BRILLIANT~!
>Dog training tip #2:
>
> When she uses this area praise her excessively!
Hey? Don't forget the COOKIE~!
> She will soon associate this with being a good thing, and want to
> continually please you. You can even give her a small treat if you
> must. Be careful with the treats though, she will soon begin to expect
> them!
INDEED?:
"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative reinforcement"
(1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING THEORY model involves
the USE OF PUNISHMENT. Of curse, Skinner has never to my
knowledge, demonstrated HOWE we escape the phenomenon
that an expected reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression (Azrin et al, 1966)."
IOW, emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov:
"Motivation Of The Resistance To Coercion "-- PAVLOV
"Reflexes of purpose and freedom" in the comparative
physiology of higher nervous activity, Institute of
Higher Nervous Activity and Neurophysiology, Academy
of Sciences, Moscow:
The most complex unconditioned "reflexes of aim and
freedom," discovered by I.P. Pavlov, are compared
with the "competence drive" and the "motivation of the
resistance to coercion," respectively, described by
contem****ary ethologists.
On the basis of the unconditioned "reflex of purpose,"
conditioned reflexes were developed in which positive
emotions arising in connection with the perfection of
a skill, irrespective of its pragmatic significance at
a given moment, serve as the reinforcement.
The unconditioned "reflex of freedom" is regarded as a
phylogenetic precursor of the will, and its acute extinction
as the physiological mechanism of hypnosis. It was
demonstrated experimentally that the appearance of the
state of "animal hypnosis" (immobilization catatonia) in
rabbits is accompanied by the predominance of electrical
activity and heat production in the right hemisphere, i.e.,
by symptoms which are found in hypnosis in man.
Simonov PV</h4>
Publication Types:<ul><li>Review</li><li>Review,
tutorial</li></ul>PMID: 2215892, UI: 91015681</blockquote>
<doctype>
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=2215892&am
p;form=6&db=m&Dopt=bNeurosciBehavPhysiol1990May-Jun;
20(3):230-5
"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition," Ivan P. Pavlov
Professional trainer and author LeeCharlesKelley wrote:
Thanks, Jerry, that's a helpful bit from the guy
who started it all. This shows what we've been
saying: that teaching the dog to play fetch,
regardless of its usefulness in the eventual
search part of the training program, is a
powerful motivator and reinforcer.
Of course these idiots (pardon my being blunt)
don't see using food and clickers as being a
form of coercion. Maybe they've been hypnotized
by Karen Pryor, et al.
----------------------
"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) re****t a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are re****ted to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS
were moved to a delayed contingency the behavior and
learning immediately deteriorated.
Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement
model" proposed by Skinner (1963) are no more well
established in research than the various dynamic
therapists."
Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation of
programmed systems for learning; 2) reinforcement;
3) cognitive dissonance; and 4) motivation, MOST
SURELY DEMOLISH the claims of operant programers."
"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966).
Some clinics have re****ted ELIMINATION of the
need for child THERAPY through changing the
clinical emphasis from clinical to parental
HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965).
A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents tem****arily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."
Freeze Frame <{}: ~ ) >
Canis55 and Marilyn are professional trainers, Marilyn had
thirty three years EXXXPERIENCE at the time of post:
From: canis55 <cani...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 1999/09/28
Subject: Dear Marilyn Re. Ness
Dear Marilyn,
I just visited your updated site. The two Ness pages are great.
Freezing the video frames to reveal the emotional impact a
leash correction has on a dog was a wonderful idea.
Lee Kelley did something similar to a Brian Kilcommon video.
The difference is we were focusing on the emotional impact a
leash correction has on the trainer. When you do this to a training
video you can clearly see the tremendous emotional charge some
of these trainers are getting from hurting dogs.
It's a strange business, this dog training. I wonder what motivates
any of us to engage in it. I'm suspicious of anyone who says they
do it because they love dogs. I know a lot of people who claim to
love what dogs represent to them, and yet they don't become trainers.
I don't think this is because they love something else more.
I think there is a difference between loving what dogs represent
to us and loving what training them creates in us or even creates
in them for that matter.
It's a complicated process and perhaps many of us have lost sight
of what we're doing. I read books and articles that matter of factly
explain how to systematically inflict pain on dogs in an effort to
create a desire to perform tasks that I often see dogs performing of
their own accord. I know many of these behaviors can be shaped
and encouraged to the same degree of reliability without all the
violence and pain.
Where they can't (if that's the case), I wonder why we think
a dog should perform a task that is so repugnant to its nature,
that we must resort to violence and coercion to compel them
to participate.
Maybe I have far too much respect for dogs, but when I read
this stuff it sounds like slavery and involuntary servitude to me.
I can't see much difference between what we're doing to them
(for their own good) and what my country men did to the African
peoples for nearly half a century.
It's hard for me to accept that I'm surrounded by so much
madness, but I have to go with my heart on this one. Most
of what we demand from dogs--if not all of it--will be offered
willingly and enthusiastically if we only learn how to request
it in a manner they can comprehend.
If it turns out that I have to attack a dog to get it to do or to not
do something, then maybe the dog isn't supposed to do what I
think it should.
The whole thing's so complicated that I can't really express it. I
just know I don't like some of the stuff I'm seeing or reading about.
--
I trains'em as I sees'em.
----------------
> Dog training tip #3
>
> Crate train.
That's INSANE~! Lockin dogs in boxes DRIVES THEM INSANE
and CAUSES them to EAT **** and SELF MUTILATE and have
PSYCHOGENIC SEIZURES like MOST of your newfHOWEND
fellHOWE dog lover's dogs do, miss MENTAL CASE.
> The thought behind this is your dog will not eliminate where she
> sleeps. (and it does work!) Make sure you find the right size crate
> to start off. If the crate is too large, the puppy will just go to the
> other end and eliminate. Usually this takes about 1-2 months to be
> totally successful. It is an ongoing process, especially if you are
> working with a puppy! Be patient, there will be accidents!
THAT'S CRUEL and INSANE advice:
From: "Deltones" <vibrov...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Subject: Re: In defense of Jerry Howe's methods
Oh, and talking about crates, the first night I had
her, I closed the door of the crate, as this is what
almost everybody was recommending. She was hell of
earth, and at 5 in the morning, I had to put her in
the bathtub as she crapped on herself during the night.
The following night, I let the door open, putting a
towel near my bed for her to sleep. Her crate is in
the kitchen. I said what the hell, let's try it.
Totally different behaviour. I was pretty happy about
it that's for sure :)
Mine has the full run of the house when I'm at work already.
Why? Because she did go totally insane when I left her in her
crate, crapping on herself in the process. It was not fun. I
followed Jerry's advice and did the "Separation Anxiety" method
in the manual, and my house has not been destroyed. Dog happier,
house not destroyed? That's all I needed to know.
Thanks again for the advice,
Regards,
Denis
-----------------
From: Mike (m.bidd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST
> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?
It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.
Works like a charm.
My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.
Sorry that slipped my mind.
I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.
Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.
Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.
Seemed he learned through osmosis.
Nice side benefit there.
It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.
I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.
I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.
I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.
Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.
Mike
---------------------
> For more im****tant information on house training your dog,
> you can purchase The Ultimate House Training Guide. It
> is an instant download for only $19.95.
You mean you're SELLIN a twenty dollar book to teach imbecile
dog abusers to lock their dogs in a small box and wait a couple
months for them to learn not to **** an piss themselves??
THAT'S INSANE, AIN'T IT <{}: ~ ( >
>There is a 56 day money back guarantee, so if you find this
> program does not help you, you can get your money back!
> This is a risk free way to house train your dog!
> As a bonus you will receive a FREE Personal Email Consultation
> specifically about your dog's problems ($120 Value!)
Naaaah? THAT'S A-M-A-Z-I-N-G~!
AIN'T IT, missMENTALCASESPAMMER??
> Destructive Chewing
>
> Is your dog chewing up socks, shoes, chairs, or even your
> kitchen floor? I'm sure you are pretty frustrated with this!
> I have some dog training tips to help stop this problem.
That so? Dogs destructively chew when they're locked
in boxes and ignored when they cry and abused by SPAM
ARTISTS like you and your pals here.
>Dog training tip #1
> Make sure your dog has plenty of exercise. If she has pent up
> energy to expend, this is how she is doing it, by chewing.
THAT'S INSANE. Dogs DO NOT need EXXXCESSIVE
EXXXORCISE to EXXXPIATE their hyperactive behaviors:
Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH,
That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And
Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving Care Is At The
Root Of The Scientific Management Of Doggies.
"All animals learn best through play," Lorenz.
> Dog training tip #2
>
> When you catch her chewing something inappropriate, make a
> loud noise, such as a clap. Then immediately hand her something
> that is appropriate to chew on.
That'll SCARE and REWARD her for the DESTRUCTIVE CHEWIN.
You can EXXXTINGUISH destructive separation anXXXIHOWESNESS
and barkin NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOIN EVERY THING
EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE you dog abusin
coward mental case ignorameHOWESES recommend.
LIKE THIS:
From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo
Aloha Jerry,
Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now. It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.
Your program is awesome, but you already know
that. Keep up the good work!
Hoku
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AND LIKE THIS:
Dave Cohen <coh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Re: Barking Deterrants Needed...
Hi.
Please understand that I do not know Jerry and have
spoken with him briefly once by email.
I have no stake or interest in the success of his business.
I simply want to thank him publicly for one of his tips, with
regards to separation anxiety.
I thought it seemed far fetched to praise a stuffed animal
and then say good bye to my own dog, but I am usually a
very open minded person, so I tried it. Well, lo and behold-
the damn trick worked!
I think Jerry has some intriguing techniques, and
personally I think everyone who constantly criticizes
him is not understanding his logic.
Thank you Jerry!
----------------
AND LIKE THIS:
"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME The
Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33 Years
Experience.
Subject: To Jerry
1 From: MarilynRammell
Date: Tues, Aug 3 1999 3:00 am
Email: "MarilynRammell" <marilynramm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Hello Jerry,
A client of mine asked to say a 'big thank you' to you.
They have a 8 month spaniel that they were about to get
rid of.
In fact they had put her into kennels for a few day while
they 'thought it through'. They rang me the day before
they were due to collect her.
She had wrecked their home - everytime they left her she
destroyed something else. The walls, the cabinets, the
carpets, table legs, chair legs, - anything and everything.
They collected her and brought her to me. I gave them some
routine training exercises, and also I wrote out your advice
(I will say at this point that I was not sure about it at all,
and felt a little embarrassed - it was the advice about the
'toy dog that gets the praise for not making a mess'.
Anyway, this was 11 days ago and I heard nothing. Yesterday
they turned up at the new Monday evening class. They were
absolutely delighted.
They told me that after just one attempt, (your toy suggestion)
she 'stopped all the destruction'. They were in tear of happiness
while telling me.
Thank you Jerry.
Respectfully,
Marilyn
----------------
AND LIKE THIS:
From: Marilyn Rammell (marilynramm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Separation anxiety (?) help needed!
Date: 1999/10/13
Hi Steve,
Just want to second Jerry's method for dealing with this -
I've suggested it to quite a few clients now and it's worked
'every' time.
It sounds a little 'amusing' I agree, but it really works.
Two of the occasions it's worked have been when the
owners were almost at the point of giving up (one had
actually put their dog into kennels for a few days so
that they could re-decorate the demolition done by the dog).
They rang me while the dog was still in kennels and were
not yet decided whether to collect the dog or not.
The very first time they tried Jerry's method, it worked.
Best of luck,
Marilyn Rammell
--------------------
AND LIKE THIS:
"Anthony Testa" <testa52> wrote in message
We came home to almost $1,000 in damage.
Furniture, the blinds were all chewed and torn
down, etc. The next day we put her in the crate
again. This time we came home to a nice 2' x 3'
hole in our carpet in the middle of the living room,
right down to the cement.
I told my wife that we cannot afford to keep this dog.
We should go out and get a puppy.
<SNIP>
First, at no cost he sent us his manual. We started
doing exactly what he said to do in the manual.
Exactly as we did was was written, the results were
exactly as he said it would be. Then we purchased
the DDR.
This is an amazing god send to us.
First of all, Jerry sent it to us without paying. (thanks
for that gesture) This has such and AMAZING effect.
This testimonial is kind of winded so I will say this......
Jerry's product literally saved this dogs life.
Angel can be left alone during the day. NO CRATE. The
dog shows absolutely no sign of anxiety at all. Jerry
told us the product works immediately and it did! She
does not bark at all during the day except when the
mailman drops mail into the slot on the door.
The manual for training works exactly as it says!
<SNIP>
Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news
group, I can't for the life of me understand why this
many people are so dang blind or ignorant.
You just keep plugging away at what you do, because
you my friend are a life saver!!!
Anytime you need someone to speak about the results
of your product, you have my number. We would galdly
talk to them.
Thank you very much for all your help.
God bless you...
Anthony & Linda Testa
Jacksonville, Florida
----------
AND LIKE THIS:
"nesskay" <ness...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:1156529540.182250.183510@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
has been a couple of months since we have initiated Jerry Howe's
recommendations for resolving the separation anxiety in our 8 y.o.
chocolate lab.
We have seen remarkable results.
She can now be left on our houseboat and we can return with
all of the wood trim and/or blinds intact. Before we spoke with
Jerry and started the training, we could not leave her without
her barking in a high pitch incessantly.
I had resorted to "building her a pen" with pieces of chair
railing, putting chairs in front of windows, and moving the
bed so that she could not get to the blind (again!). It would
take about 10-15 minutes of planning and moving things before
we could leave.
Even with that, she would find something to destroy. We NOW
use the surrogate toy method and can go out, shop, go to dinner
or whatever, without any problems.
She is glad to see us when we return, but no longer frantic.
I am so happy that this seems to be the norm now.
Another problem that we had with her was although she would
not destroy the house, she would leave us runny poop in several
places.(kind of the same as destroy I guess). I tried to blame this
on her diet, but realized that her anxiety level was so high that
she just had no control. Now, the only time that she has done
that is when she devoured a diaper from the trash!!!
Jerry's methods work. I found him by typing in separation
anxiety+orlando florida into Google, otherwise I don't want
to speculate what could have happened with Amelia.
We were at our Wit's End!!!!!! Thanks so much Jerry.
We have given your URL to everyone we know with a dog.
Your methods work. The others that we tried did not.
It is that simple!
Thank you, Thank you Thank you!
Nancy and Amelia
----------------------
>Praise her excessively.
You mean AFTER you give IT a REWARD for destructive chewin.
>Dog training tip #3
> Positive reinforcement is the only way your dog will understand
> right vs. wrong. If you praise excessively, this shows her what
> ever she is doing when you praise her is right. Therefore, she will
> do it more often!
That's ABSURD. You go NO IDEA what "positive reinforcement" means:
"George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004
Subject: Fw: Counter Cruising must stop
> From: "diannes" <dian...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004
> Subject: Re: Counter Cruising must stop
> > > > LeeCharlesKelley <kelleymet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > On another note: I understand why someone
> > > > > proclaiming a method that works on all dogs,
> > > > > all the time, would send up "red flag" to you
> > > > > and others, but the fact remains, if a technique
> > > > > *doesn't* work 100% of the time, with all dogs,
> > > > > then there must be a flaw in the philosophy
> > > > > underlying that technique.
> > > > Ditto for dog training. No failure nor flaw of method
> > > > is involved - that's just acceptance of reality.
> > > First of all, I didn't say that there was a flaw in the
> > > method, though anyone is welcome to make that leap.
> > > I said there was a flaw in the underlying philosophy
> > > and its model of learning.
> > Correction accepted. I think that perhaps we are using
> > terminology differently here. Here is my use of the terms:
Jerry, I don't know where you find these folk who can't read.
> In order to use negative reinforcement, one must
> typically administer the aversive stimulus in order
> to be able to terminate it.
This is not negative reinforcement. Negative means no.
Positive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
reward emitted immediately by trainer;
Negative reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
no response by trainer;
Aversive reinforcement = behavior emitted by dog,
aversive stimuli emitted immediately by trainer;
The term "reinforcement is used only tentatively with
"aversion" because aversive stimuli (aka punishment)
typically derange learning and are not followed by clean
learning curves equivalent to those which follow reward
or positive reinforcement;
Escape conditioning = dog has an aversive stimulus
applied without any dog related reason and when
behavior is emitted aversive stim is immediately turned off .
There is some indication that Escape Conditioning
works in a manner closely approximating reward;
but, ear pinch? -- too aversive.
I remind you that you should beat them over the head
with "The Misbehavior of Organisms" by Breland and
Breland, published in B.F. Skinner's ***ULATIVE
RECORD. Ignored by most profs of psychology, but
the distillation of his work.
NO PUNISHMENT.
Must pay attention to who is the animal?
His evolution, his development, and his personal history -
cannot train without respect for who is the dog? So says
the BIG TIME operant conditioning guru - and you can also
refer back to MARY COVER JONES (mother of scientific
systematic psychology), no loving, no learning.
I suppose I could wire up a dog so that his brain was
badly interrupted and the loving method of puppy training
might not work well - but it would still work better than the
methods used by dominatrix and their ilk.
Lovingly applied ethological techniques like the one
espoused by the Wizard of ALL puppies work for all
dogs, for that matter for all mammals higher than cat.
Indeed, they will work for cats if trainer is warmly competent.
You can see this in Key West on any sunny day.
Housecats performing quite happily.
Fondly, Dr. Von
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> For more im****tant dog training tips on destructive
> chewing, you can purchase SitStayFetch.
That's curiHOWES. Destructive chewin is CAUSED BY
those REPRESSIVE "DOG TRAININ TIPS":
The SECRET to EFFECTIVE behavior modification is
NON PHYSICAL PRAISE IN ADVANCE, follHOWED
by BRIEF, VARIABLY ALTERNATING NON PHYSICAL
DISTRACTION, INSTANTLY follHOWED by PROLONGED,
NON PHYSICAL PRAISE.
A Professor and a Veterinarian compliment Dr. Miller
Correspondence from two professionals
in field of canine studies...
Dear Dr. Miller:
Sometime ago you sent me a complimentary copy of
your book "The Secret of Canine Communication."
This book has been used extensively in the School
of Veterinary Medicine both by the faculty and the
student body. They have found this a very useful
text and have had much benefit from the op****tunity
to review the fine work which you have done.
I do appreciate your kindness in sending me this
book. I will see that it is placed in our Veterinary
Medical Library for the full use of the faculty
and the student body of the school. I am sure that
many of the students will be interested in placing
order for copies of this book as they engage in the
practice of canine medicine.
Sincerely,
Wm. E. Jennings, Professor
Auburn University
School of Veterinary Medicine
-o-
Dear Dr. Miller:
The following review has been submitted to
New York City Veterinarian and should be
published in due course, at the discretion
of the Executive Editor:
**********
This is the unique training manual based upon
subliminal suggestion by means of a special
chain that is so constructed that when it is
shaken or thrown it takes advantage of certain
harmonic attributions of the dog, and training
takes place without leash restraint by means
of applying fundamental principles of conditioned
reflex psychology.
Apparent dramatic results have been obtained with
this approach to training, and it seems to render
more conventional approaches obsolete.
The reader who seeks a practical and thorough
lesson in applied canine psychology can learn
a great deal from the careful perusal of this
popularly written manual.
**********
So there you are. I trust it may be helpful to you.
Respectfully yours,
A. Barton, D.V.M.
Book Editor
New York City Veterinarian
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From Dr. Miller's website:
Dr. Larry Male (a.k.a. TooCool) ruminates on Dog
Behavior and Dog Training LONG PRYOR to studyin
the Wits' End Training Method:
Dr. Larry Male, Engineer, Scientist and Mathematician,
writes to Dr. Miller about his dog Duke, the im****tance
of DOG-MASTER®, and his opinion on other dog
"training" methods.
Dear Dr. Miller,
It was such a pleasure for me to talk with
you on the phone this morning.
I never did see your television appearances
although they were well within my era. I think
that I am perhaps 15 years your junior. I wish
I had seen them though.
It was a little ad in Dog Fancy, I think, that
I initially responded to back in 1992. I remember
that the wording seemed to be a bit like a s****
oil salesman, e.g., miraculous, magic learning
sound etc. But at that time, I was investigating
different dog training techniques and I could
easily afford a stamp to find out. But when I
received your literature, I immediately grasped
that this was im****tant and scientific.
I already had my Golden when I received my DOG
MASTER kit and he was perhaps 2 years old at the
time. I had tried my best to train him, using the choke
chain dog training class once a week. Oh, I should
mention that I am currently a software engineer, but I
have a master's in zoology and a doctorate in
mathematics and biometrics.
Anyway, when I received your DOG MASTER System
book I was capable of understanding the magnitude of
your accomplishment.
I had such a great and immediate success that I dropped
out of the dog training class. For 9 more years my Duke
continued to learn more and more and more. He loved to
learn and to show off what he had learned. People were
so amazed at his behavior that they could not believe it.
He responded to complex commands, within
sentences spoken in a normal tone of voice.
To those watching, he must have seemed almost
human. His eyes were always upon me.
I remember that he would lie on the floor watching
me for hours. I could give him subtle hand signals
with my finger to make him sit up, lie down, stand,
stay etc. As he learned, I begin to make the hand
signals less and less obvious. And he learned to
respond to whisper commands. Oh, it was so much
fun and rewarding.
It has been two years now since Duke passed on
and now I have decided to get a Pembroke Welch
Corgi. I have been rereading the DOG MASTER
System book. My poor little book is falling apart
now. But as I reread I begin to realize how much
more effective I could have been if I had followed
your directions more closely.
How much better it will be for me now, to study
and to practice before I get my puppy. When you
already have your dog, you are so anxious to try
the DOG MASTER, that you don't take the time to
grasp the im****tance of each element of your system.
As I now reread your book, I think to myself,
"How was he able to develop this complex system?"
But each of your directions is sup****ted by an
analysis of dog behavior. These explanations are
so im****tant to me. A human mind requires those
explanations in order to apply the DOG MASTER
System intelligently.
I have purchased a number of top books on clicker
training (operant conditioning). This is the current
rage in dog training. But these authors freely admit
in their books that they no answers for dog behavior
problems.
They don't know how to prevent them or cure them.
They don't seem to know how to housetrain a dog.
Everyday I see dogs walking their owners (dragging
them forward and backwards through the park). The
owners plead and yell and tackle and treat and give
up in frustration.
Their only consolation is that everyone else's
dog behaves the same. I feel so sorry for everyone.
I know that there exists a training system that will
produce a dream dog, but it isn't advertised or
available. The DOG MASTER System is so vastly
superior to any other alternative that I experience
a feeling of great loss that it isn't readily available.
You know, instead of attending dog training cl*****
before or at least when they get their puppy.
Teach them about dog behavior and show them how
to use DOG MASTER; stress how im****tant it is
to use it precisely according to the directions.
Tell them that they might as well throw it in
the trash if they don't intend to use it properly.
I think that it would be so much easier to grasp
in a good video production. Then you could watch
it over and over. Hey, don't we all need that
timing, rhythm and repetition to learn?
(... and so on....)
Sincerely,
Larry M. Male
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: "TooCool" <larrymale @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004
Subject: Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard/777witsendmanual.htm
I have studied canine behavior and dog
training for years. I have a huge library
that covers every system of training.
The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits'
End Training Method is by far the most
scientific, the most advanced, the kindest,
the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.
It is not an assortment of training tips
and tricks; it is a logically consistent
system. Every behavior problem and every
obedience skill is treated in the same
logically consistent manner.
Please study his manual carefully. Please
endeavor to understand the basis of his
system and please follow his directions
exactly. His manual is a masterpiece. It
is dense with theory, with explanation,
with detailed descriptions about why
behavior problems occur and how their
solution should be approached.
One should not pick and choose from among
his methods based upon what you personally
like or dislike. His is not a bag of tricks
but a complete and integrated system for
not only training a dog but for raising a
loving companion.
When I once said to Jerry that his system
creates for you the dog of your dreams,
his response was that it produces for your
dog the owner of his dreams.
You see, Jerry has discovered that if
you are gentle with your dog then he
will be gentle with you, if you praise
your dog every time he looks at you,
then you will become the center of your
dogs world, if you use Jerry's sound
distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to
train your dog to not misbehave (even in
your absence) (Just 15 seconds this morning
to train my 10 week old puppy to lie quietly
and let me clip his nails).
Using Jerry's scientific method (sound
distraction / praise / alteration /
variation) it takes just minutes to train
you dog to respond to your commands.
What a pleasure it was for me to see my
6 week old puppy running as fast has his
wobbly little legs would carry him in
response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter
where we are or what he is doing.
At ten weeks old now, my
puppy never
strains upon his leash thanks to Jerry's
hot & cold exercises and his Family Pack
Leader****p exercises.
Jerry has discovered that if you scold
your dog, if you scream at him, if you
intimidate him, if you hurt him, if you
force him then his natural response is
to oppose you.
Is Jerry a nut?
It doesn't make any difference to me whether
he is or not. It is a logical fallacy to judge
a person's ideas based upon their personality.
As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry wears his
heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply
when he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating,
scolding or hurting dogs.
More than that, he knows that force is
not effective and that it will certainly
lead to behavior problems; sometime
problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.
I believe that it is natural for humans
to want to control their dog by force.
Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?
Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In
scientific literature it is referred to
allelomimetic behavior. Dogs respond in
like kind to force; they respond in like
kind to praise.
Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him
what he wants most-your kind attention. Give
him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's
anxiety will dissipate and how their behavior
problems will dissipate along with their anxiety.
Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits'
End Training Method as a scientific principle
just as you would the law of gravity and you
will have astounding success.
Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.
If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get
a sweet little Magwai; if you don't you will
surely get a little gremlin (anyone see The
Gremlins?).
--Larry
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.be
havior
From: "TooCool" <larrymale @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004
Subject: Dog Behavior Problems
What causes dog behavior problems? Well, first
of all, a dog doesn't know that his behavior is
a problem until you tell him so. But if you
address his behavior negatively then your dog
will tend to repeat it-that is just the nature
of dogs.
Unfortunately for us humans, our natural tendency
is to rebel with emotional outburst, intimidation
or force when our dog's behavior annoys us. But
we must bite our tongue and praise our dog instead.
You do not believe that your dog is out to get
your goat? Just begin to carefully analyze his
behavior. Take for instance the case of the
Mozart hating dog.
Whoever heard of such a thing? How could such a
bizarre behavior begin and become established? Who
knows for sure, but it could easily happen like this. You
are relaxing listening to your favorite Mozart piece and
your dog begins to play rowdily-he is trying to attract
your attention-but his commotion annoys you.
You get upset and yell at him to shut-up.
Dogs are very sensitive to your emotions-positive
emotions calm them-negative emotions upset them.
But your negative attention has just given your
dog a lesson on how to get your attention.
How many times do think that it will take to make
this behavior automatic? Once, maybe twice is sufficient.
Does your dog act up when you are on the phone?
Why? Does he rush doors? Why? Does he jump up on
you or others? Why? Does he strain upon his leash?
Why?
What can you do to prevent such behaviors
and what can you do to cure them once they
have begun.
The classical conditioning and operant conditioning
schools of thought will advise you to condition your
dog to respond with some other, more acceptable,
behavior to the stimulus which instigates the
misbehavior.
Elaborate schemes are often devised. For instance
condition your dog to run to his crate to get a
treat when guests arrive to prevent him from
jumping upon your guests.
But this school of thought has nothing to
say about preventing such behavior problems
in the first place. And what if you don't
have any treats left? Or what if you are at
your neighbor's house with him?
And what if you wished that your dog would
just sit quietly when guests arrived instead
of each time having to bribe him to come to
his crate?
The force training school of thought will advise
you to scold, intimidate or by some means punish
your dog for what you deem to be
misbehavior.
You do not believe that this approach may cause
your dog to dislike or possibly hate you? You do
not believe that your dog will find other, perhaps
more obnoxious, behaviors in order to get even with
you?
This school of thought also has nothing to recommend
upon how to prevent these behavior problems in the
first place.
I recommend that you learn the value of praise
and kind emotions toward your dog. Throw away
your treats and your hickory sticks and raise
a dog who is calm and loving and who never gets
into any trouble.
Learn how to use sound distraction combined with
praise to quickly condition your dog to avoid
behaviors that you dislike; by quickly, I mean
in just a few minutes. Learn to teach your dog
commands in minutes using sound, praise,
alternation and variation while taking advantage
of a dog's natural allelomimetic behavior).
Please study The Puppy Wizard's Wits' End Training Method.
--Larry
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: "TooCool" <larrymale
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:17:01 GMT
Subject: Re: Dog Behavior Problems
"Lynn K." <java...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:37cd72a9.0407210206.61b65e3f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "TooCool" <larrym...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
<news:pmVKc.2487$jJ1.1185@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>...
> > What causes dog behavior problems? Well, first of all, a dog doesn't
> > know that his behavior is a problem until you tell him so. But if you
> > address his behavior negatively then your dog will tend to repeat
> > it-that is just the nature of dogs.
> Huh???? Something's very, very wrong with the relation****p if a dog
tends
> to repeat behaviors he understands are undesired. That is not "just
> the nature of dogs". It's the result of inept human actions. Lynn K.
Dogs do not understand the concept of right
and wrong. But it is their nature to oppose
you. If you pull upon them then they will
pull back, if you push upon them then they
will push back, if they chew upon your shoe
and you scold them then they will naturally
chew your shoe again.
Shoo your dog out of your kitchen and he will
immediately come back in. Try to keep him from
charging the door by pu****ng him away with your
foot and he will charge ever so much more
deliberately and he will become an expert at
avoiding your foot.
Once your dog figures out your intention, he
will figure out a way to oppose it. Your job
is to never oppose your dog-then he will never
oppose you.
For instance, never put tension upon his lead
and he will never strain upon his lead. Praise
him even if you do not approve of his behavior.
Use sound distraction with praise to eliminate
undesirable behaviors as described in the Puppy
Wizard's Wits' End Training Method.
It takes no more than four repetitions to
extinguish an undesirable behavior. This
can take as little as a few seconds. The
undesirable behavior will be extinguished
for good and your dog will have received
nothing but praise.
Since you have given him nothing to oppose,
his natural tendency to oppose will never be
stimulated.
It is so easy. It works like magic.
When you come to understand the principles of
canine behavior, training becomes incredibly
easy. If you oppose those principles of canine
behavior, then you may well battle with your
dog for the rest of his life.
-- Larry
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: "TooCool" <larrymale @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 02:14:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Dog Behavior Problems
Sound distraction, with praise, works for any
dog, regardless of breed, age, temperament or
past experience. It is not a trick or training
tip. It is a scientific principle that applies
to canines in general. If it did not work for
you, then you did not perform it correctly.
Remember, your sound distraction must be
accompanied immediately by praise lasting
from 5 to 15 seconds. During this 5 to 15
second period your dog will be thinking.
Observe them closely to see the telltale
signs that they are thinking.
The sound distraction must not originate from
the trainer twice in a row. The sound distraction
must alternately originate from the trainer and
then originate from the dog or beyond the dog.
That is why you need something that you can
toss that will not make any sound until it
lands. You begin praising as soon as it makes
its sound.
If the misbehavior continues after four
alternating attempts, then call your dog
to you and retry the sound distraction
with praise a little while later. This
prevents any battles with your dog.
Never use your sound distraction as an aversive
(to frighten or to intimidate)-that invalidates
the scientific principle upon which this method
is based. The praise is just as im****tant as is
the sound distraction.
The scientific principle upon which the sound
distraction with praise method is based is the
same as that of Pavlov's conditioned reflex.
However, it has been proven that this sound
distraction system will condition a behavior
in dogs in less than half the number of attempts
as required by Pavlov's method.
Condition your dog to your praise by praising
them every time that they look at you.
If you desire a thinking dog,
never use treats
for training because your dog's mind will focus
upon the food rather than upon his lesson.
Please study the Puppy Wizard's Wits' End
Training Method to learn the entire theory
and application of these principles.
His system is based upon scientific principles
and it is logically consistent from start to finish.
Once you appreciate that it is in the nature
of a dog to oppose you then you will begin to
make rapid progress with your training. You
will then devise your training techniques so
as to avoid any opposition-physical or mental.
Do not let your dog detect any emotion that will
tell him that he is succeeding in opposing you.
In other words never let your dog feel that he
is opposing you, because if you do, he will
certainly frustrate you with continued opposition.
That is why it is so im****tant to always praise
your dog. If you reveal to your dog that he is
not doing what you want him to do, then he will,
by his very nature, continue to oppose you.
If, however, you devise your training methods so
that your dog never knows that he is opposing you,
then you will make rapid progress.
For example, to teach a dog not to forge ahead
of you, simply reverse direction without notice
and praise-this is a training method that reveals
no opposition from you.
Another example: if your dog strains upon his
lead, praise him when his lead is slack. When
he hits the end of his lead, pull him back an
inch and then praise the slack lead.
Since it doesn't take long for a dog's natural
thigmotactic reflex to operate, don't pull back
for more than an instant and then immediately
praise his slack lead.
--Larry
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> It is an instant download for only $37 with a 56 day full
> money back guarantee!
> The purchase also includes 5 bonus books and 1 audio track -
> a $99.75 value.
If his "METHOD" WORKED, HOWE COME would
you need EXXXTRA TRAININ METHODS?
> Fear Biting
>
> A dog fear-bites because it is the only way of expressing her
> extreme fear or panic. I will give you some dog training
> tips to help with this problem.
That so?
> The top reason why dogs fear-bite is because humans are ignoring
> the signals the dog is giving to them. Humans can see the dog is
> nervous, yet they go to the dog. This is the worst thing you can do.
>(Obviously a dog can't bite you if you are not near it!)
That's EXXXCELLENT advice~!
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> Do not force your dog to overcome her fear. It requires patience,
> consistency and persistence. Rough treatment (anger, frustration,
> shouting) worsens the problem and increases anxiety levels.
Naaah?
> Try desensitizing her to the fear object. Slowly acclimate your
> dog to whatever has been making her panic. She will learn
> through experience that the cause of fear isn't scary after all.
That so?
> For more im****tant dog training tips on fear biting please read
> SitStayFetch.
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> Food Guarding
> Is your furry friend guarding his food? This is a very serious issue,
No it ain't. "Food guarding" is a SYMPTOM of MISTRUST.
All you gotta do is DO EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY
OPPOSITE of HOWE you "train" your dogs and they "food guarding"
will disappeard JUST LIKE FREAKIN MAGICK.
> whether you have children or not.
ONLY PARENTS FEAR an HATE The Sincerely Incredibly
Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing, Majestic Grand Master Puppy,
Child, *****, Birdy, Goat, Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES, And Horsey
Wizard more than the professional dog abusers and university
trained behaviorists whom HE has IDENTIFIED EXXXPOSED an
DISCREDITED BY NAME based on their own written words and
the RESULT of their PATHETIC, backwards, barbaric, archaic,
ineffective, slovenly, HOWEtdated methods <{}: ~ ) >
> The fact of the matter is, dogs are naturally scavengers. Dogs
> love to eat, they have been programmed to eat almost anything
> they can get their mouth on. Therefore this overwhelming
> im****tance on eating tends to turn the dog into a miser when it
> comes to his food.
THAT'S ABSURD.
Dogs, bein PACK critters, SHARE an SHARE alike.
> His food is the most im****tant thing, so he has to protect
> it, namely from you or anyone else who comes along!
THAT'S INSANE.
> Here are some dog training tips to prevent food guarding:
>
> From day 1- make sure you walk around your dog while he is
> eating, give him a small treat in the bowl (while he has his snout
> in it). He will make the connection that a human approaching
> the bowl is a good thing! Don't make a point of tip-toeing around
> him while he is eating. If you do, this is letting him know he is the
> alpha dog, and this should not be the case.
That's ABSURD.
> If the problem already exists please read SitStayFetch
> for more dog training tips on how to correct this!
HOWE COME you don't just tell us HOWE to do it?
> Jumping
> Is jumping a problem for you? Does your dog jump on visitors
> because he is excited? This may offend guests, they may not
> like the scratches either!
Jumpin in greeting is a BONDING behavior.
> Most likely the cause of this started in puppy-hood. It was pretty
> cute when you came home and he was jumping all around trying
> to get your attention. He was so excited to see you come home!
No, actually puppys do a greeting dance to make their mommy
dog DIZZY and PUKE UP her stomach full of breakfast. The
puppy "greeting" behavior is a survival instinct, that's ALL.
> Your reaction was to bend down, pick him up and/or
> pet him and praise him for being so darned cute!
When in fact, all the puppy really wanted was to make you PUKE.
> The puppy has now learned it is a good thing to jump,
> because it gets attention!
No, the puppy continues to jump due to FRUSTRATION and anXXXIHOWESNESS
from
not havin his NEEDS met by his
human mommy / daddy PUKIN for him. OtheWIZE, the puppy
would RELAXXX and greet you with a nice 'HOWEDY~!
> He doesn't understand the difference between when he did
> it as a puppy, and now when he is a 80 lb. slobbering clod!
Well, the puppy wouldn't CONtinue jumpin UNLESS you
REWARDED it by tryin to REPRESS his jumpin.
> Here are some dog training tips for jumping:
> What you need to do is ignore him when he jumps on you.
That'll FRUSTRATE the puppy and INCREASE his
anXXXIHOWESNESS and JUMPIN and may cause
IT to become AGGRESSIVE.
> If he jumps, turn your head, cross your arms, turn away
> from him. After a time he will learn this behavior is not
> acceptable, because you will be praising him when he
> has all 4 paws on the ground.
That's ABSURD.
> Another reason for jumping is for him to
> be asserting his dominance over you.
THAT'S INSANE.
So called dog lovers who talk abHOWET "dominance" are mentally
ill dog abusin cowards who jerk choke shock bribe crate intimidate
surgically ***ually mutilate an MURDER innocent defenseless dumb
critters an LIE abHOWET it, like HOWE you do, misslilybug you lyin
dog abusin spammer.
> If this is the case, please read SitStayFetch for more
> dog training tips on this issue.
You mean, he's got even BETTER advice than you already gave us??
> Licking
> Are you having trouble with an over - abundance
> of licking in your household?
Licking is a SUBMISSIVE behavior, not a sympton of affection.
> Here are some dog training tips for your licker!
Oh, well THANK YOU misslilybutt~!
> Most dog licking is because they are showing their affection for you.
THAT'S INSANE.
Puppys lick their mommy's lips to get her to PUKE.
> You can tell this because their body language is relaxed,
> their mood will be stress-free and happy. It will be easy to
> cure him of this type of licking.
You're INSANE.
> The less common licking cause is because
> your dog is anxious or stressed.
Naaah?
> If things are going on in his world to make him nervous, he could
> show it through obsessive-compulsive behaviors, and licking is the
> easiest...They will lick themselves, and others will lick you.
Yeah?
> If the latter is the case, you need to pin-point the cause of stress
> in his life. Maybe he is left alone too long during the day, and
>you need to come home at lunch.
That's ABSURD~!
> Maybe he isn't getting enough exercise, take him out
> and let him explore a little longer, and play.
THAT'S INSANE~!
> If it is the former, check out SitStayFetch for some
> more dog training tips on licking!
I thought you was gonna give us some LICKING ADVICE??
> SitStayFetch
> Your dog training tips in one easy to use book!
> As every parent to a dog knows, training is essential to a happy home.
> If your dog doesn't know who the pack leader is, or believes he/she is
> the pack leader, then you are just headed for trouble. A messy house,
> behavior problems, tension between the humans. All of this and more
> happen without proper training.
No, all THAT an MORE happens from your repressive imbecilic trainin.
> I'm sure all of you know how children behave when they lack
> discipline, Well your dog is the same way. Treat your dog like
> you would your child and discipline it!
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice
Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.
I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.
I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:
whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.
The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).
You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.
As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine
> This program will show you how. When you train your dog, you
> are showing them who is pack leader, and you will both be happier.
HOWE COME does your DEAD DOG have a PRONGED
SPIKED PINCH CHOKE COLLAR on his neck, misslilybutt?
> Click here if you are interested in more dog training tips!
>
> This program has a Money Back Guarantee. You will receive
> your money back if you are not satisfied. Most programs have
> a 30 day or even a 60 day guarantee. This one is 8 weeks! You
> have nothing to loose!
<SNIP ABUSIVE IDIOCY>
A DOG Is A DOG;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A GOAT Is A GOAT;
As A FERRET Is A FERRET;
As A MONKEY Is A MONKEY:
As A HORSE Is A HORSE;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES;
As A Mass Murderer Is A Mass Murderer.
ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Cir***stances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
You GET The Critter You TRAINED
In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.
Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
ALL dogs and ALL temperament and behavior problems can
be quickly and EZily trained / rehabilitated for ALL handlers
NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOING EVERY THING
EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE professional
dog trainers and university trained behaviorists recommend.
From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Subject: Proposed article for Wikipedia
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006
The Amazing Puppy Wizard is the cognomen of a dog behaviorist,
Jerry Howe, of Orlando, Fl. Howe's primary teaching is that
dogs deserve unconditional love, respect, and attention and
that by providing these emotional needs dogs will regulate
their own behavior.
Howe is bombastically antagonistic to rewarders, but he
is aggressively hostile to punishers - he refers antagonists
to B.F. Skinner, Mary Cover Jones, and J.B. Watson and
especially to Samuel A. Corson when they mistakenly
annunciate behavioral principles to sup****t their use of
punishment.
Punishment always deranges behavior, says Skinner,
Jones, Watson, Corson and Jerry Howe!
Howe developed a sonic device which calms dogs and has
been broadly tested in a wide range of different situations.
The present author is a Who's Who recognized psychologist
who was asked to evaluate Howe's device by a former student.
Howe provided the author with a device, without
charge, and said device worked as re****ted.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cross reference to Jerry Howe, etc.
Jerry, the difficulty with these ignorant dog molesters
is that they cannot read. Negative reinforcement is no
response by the trainer.
There is positive reinforcement, an action which is followed
by an increase in the targetted behavior (usually called
"reward" which is precisely and technically a misnomer),
negative reinforcement is the absence of any response.
Negative means 'No'.
Skinner's last book, "***ULATIVE RECORD" reviews this
thoroughly. http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/proj/nru/nr.html
Negative reinforcement is stopping an aversive reinforcement
according to this author. Read it, they have a sense of humor!
There are four forms of systematic reinforcement:
do nothing (negative reinforcement)
reward the behavior (positive reinforcement)
punish the behavior (aversive reinforcement)
after habituating the subject to punishment,
stop puni****ng (relief of aversion, which is negative reinforcement).
Logically, failing to reward after habituating a reward
is also negative reinforcement. Actually intermittent
rewards work better than consistent, invariable rewards,
so there is actually another two categories. Invariable
reinforcement and random reinforcement (on varying schedules).
Punishment is AVERSIVE REINFORCEMENT.
Actions which cause the animal being trained to avoid,
avert, cringe away from. Pavlovians always responded
to American psychologist's inability to reproduce Pavlov's
results with dogs with the comment, "American's don't LOVE
their dogs". If you ever observed a Russian psychologist
working with a dog, you'd instantly see the difference.
American psychologists were wooden, robot-like,
wanted to be "scientific".
This meant to them that they should display no
affection, or any other emotion with the subjects.
When a Pavlovian dog started to misbehave or fail to respond,
doggie was taken out of the equipment, and taken home for a
loving vacation, with much TLC. Sam Corson, Pavlov's last
student, demonstrated the same relation****ps at Ohio State.
Interestingly the first page of results for Sam Corson,
dog behaviorist is loaded with Jerry Howe quoting Dr. Von.
heh heh heh
Dr. Von
Oh, by the way, you once had a pompous fellow say that
Dr. Von was a figment of your imagination. I don't
normally mention this, but I have been listed in Who's
Who in the S & SE USA since 1982, and in the big books,
Who's Who in the USA, WW in the World, WW in Medicine
etc, and WW in Science and Technology, since that date.
These are the Marquis Publications, the "real" WW, and
you can't get yourself into them.
GvH
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From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 12:50:51 -0400
Dear Jerry, I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.
I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson
(Pavlov's last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio
University. I even got to spend a night at Sam's house.
There is no question but that you are a spiritual brother
to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom knew that the dog's
great capacity for love was the key to shaping doggie behavior.
Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well do***ented Pavlovian techniques. Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to
commercial) psychology.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who in
Science and Technology
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Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:
"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Sup****t Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.
From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,
I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.
You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to
alert the world to animal abuse.
We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and sup****t your valuable
work.
Have you thought of establi****ng a nonprofit
charity to fund your im****tant work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?
In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.
--Marshall Dermer
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
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