HOWEDY Phil,
"Phil Odox" <philodox@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> When my 9 week old Jack Russell gets a bit tired and fights off sleep
> in the usual way pups do by attacking everything and everyone around
> him,
That AIN'T "usual", Phil. THAT'S a SYMPTOM of FRUSTRATION.
Oh, and dogs AIN'T "dirty" in a ***ual way, they're NORMAL; it's
HUMANS who are DIRTY, ***ually, Phil <{}: ~ ( >
> he also often tries to mate with his bedding, teddy bears,
> and my hands while I try to calm him down.
That's ABSURD, Phil. At 9 weeks of age a puppy dog AIN'T
GOT NO ***UAL INSTINCT. Humping, EXXXCEPT for
when there's a female in heat, is a SYMPTOM of EXXXTREME
ANXXXIHOWESNESS, not *** DRIVE.
>Very strange,
Actually, NO, it's VERY COMMON. MOST of your newfHOWEND
pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal muderin punk thug coward
active acute chronic life-long incurable maliganant maliciHOWES
MENTAL CASE'S dogs GOT THE SAME PROBLEM for the SAME
REASON.
> I would've thought,
INDEED? PERHAPS you SHOULDA THOUGHT pryor to
posting here and upsetting the MENTAL CASES who've now
swarmed all over you like flies on poops, eh, Phil?
> for a young pup of only 9 weeks.
Yeah, who'd ever THINK a 9 week old puppy would have *** drive?
Well, Phil, here's a C-L-U-E for ya: THEY DON'T. IN FACT, they
don't usually even have descended testicles at that age.
> Now, I have a no-shouting and no- punishment rule
Of curse~! NO WON HERE PUNISHES THEIR DOGS.
> to house-training my pup, and so far this approach is going great.
JUST IN CASE you haven't noticed, from the "Harvey potty mouth"
thread, where Harvey EATS POOP directly from the other dogs behind,
JUST LIKE HOWE mary beth's dog done, MOSTof your newfHOWEND pathetic
miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal muderin punk thug coward
active acute chronic life-long incurable maliganant maliciHOWES
MENTAL CASE PALS dogs GOT THE SAME PROBLEM of EATIN
POOP for the SAME REASON.
AND THEY DON'T SCREAM OR PUNISH THEIR DOGS EITHER.
Of curse, coprophagia *(POOP EATIN) is CAUSED BY ineffective
inapupriate archaic and barbaric HOWEsbreakin methods and so
called CRATE TRAINING.
> When he goes to the toilet in the house I calmly pick him
> up and carry him into the garden and wait for him to finish
> what he started there.
Of curse. THAT REWARDS you puppy for DOIN IT in the 1st place, Phil.
HOWEsbreakin is INSTINCTIVE at three weeks of age. By four weeks
puppys are able to make it a fair distance from their nest. By 8 weeks
a puppy is capable of CON-TRAINING HISSELF all night long.
Here's TWO pups HOWEsbrokin since DAY WON
in their new HOWESES at 8-9 weeks of age:
LIKE THIS:
From: Mike (m.bidd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST
> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?
It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.
Works like a charm.
My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.
Sorry that slipped my mind.
I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.
Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.
Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.
Seemed he learned through osmosis.
Nice side benefit there.
It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.
I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.
I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.
I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.
Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.
Mike
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AND LIKE THIS:
Show Dog Bark Wrote:
Date: Sat, Aug 19 2006 2:06 am
Blue is doing fantastic. Thanks to his wonderful
personality, genetics and Jerry's help. I speak with
Jerry a couple of times a week about his progress
and fine tuning his training. Blue sits, heels, is
totally toilet trained, comes, knows 'down', stay
and all kinds of things like 'lets go for a walk'.
He is pure joy and has made my heart glad and full
of puppy love. He loves walking in the forest trails
and swimming in the cool and refre****ng lake. His
'daddy' takes him for his final walk every evening
at 7 P.M. Then it is off to bed. He sleeps till 7 A.M.
It is nice to be able to sleep all night without getting
up for a pee pee a few times with him. In the first few
weeks I had to take him out at night, but now he is
able to sleep all night. He is like a tranquilizer.
I keep asking Jerry if Blue is a genius,
as he is so clever and obedient.
He tells me this is the nature of a dog that
has not been abused.
Blue is super good looking and so smart.
He learned to sit weeks ago. When he needs to go
outside to relieve himself, he lets me know by
going to the door and woofing. One thing that I
have noticed using Jerry's methods is that Blue
is very calm.
Most dogs are hyper and chew furniture and have
bad habits. Blue only plays with his toys. He knows
the difference between his toys and furniture and
does not nip.
I was surprised that he does not want to go on the
furniture. He likes to play on the floor and outside.
We sit outside together and he sits by where I am
reading. He may chew a toy or just hang out in the
shade. The whole town loves him and people are
impressed with his manners.
Show Dog Bark
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AND LIKE THIS:
From: AIMEE (countrygirl0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: House training and such...
Date: 2003-10-08 16:18:56 PST
I've been having a problem with my dog, Axel,
relieving himself in the house while I'm away
from home.
I've used TPW method's, and yesterday I was out
for 12 hours, and Axel didn't have one single "accident".
Today, I had hoped that the results would be just as
good - and they were (I was out for 11 hours).
The problem began when, as a puppy, Axel would
relieve himself in the house and I would point
at the mess and tell him "NO" or "Bad Dog".
That made him afraid to relieve himself in the
house or infront of me.
After I got TPW's training manual, I corrected my
mishandling of these instances.
When I came home to an "accident", I would simply
drop a can near the area and ask Axel "What's that?"
Then I would clean it up - with out showing him I was
the least bit upset about the mess, and when he looked
at the spot I would tell him "Good boy, you're a good dog".
This has been an ongoing problem, and thanks to the
Puppy Wizard, we've finally got it taken care of...
Also, Axel LOVES the cat's litter box...He enjoys the
"snacks" he can find in there...I followed TPW's methods
by alternating sounds and praising him while or before
he sticks his nose in it, and today, he's been going into
the room with the cat box and barking. That's because
he's thinking about getting into the box, but he knows he
shouldn't.
Thank you, Jerry, for all you help.
You've been a blessing to all of us.
AIMEE
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AND LIKE THIS:
BlueMoon Wrote:
Hello MOCrab.
Well, I'd take your advice and go thru the killfile as you have
recommended below, but Jerry's system Is WORKING wonders
with these two puppies in a matter of days. He may be abusive
and short-tempered with some people out there because, quite
frankly, I think he cares more about the dogs that the owner's
feelings and feels so strongly about it, it's aggravating to have
"experts" discount his methods.
My husband just got back from taking these 15 week old pups
for a walk, who now respond remarkably well to the "Zena-Zoey-
sit-good-girl!" phrase now when only said once no matter where
they are.
They also respond to the come here command. We trained them
(granted, out of order of the instructions) with the pennies in the
cans only two days ago to come to us when called. I've since
backtracked to do the exercises in the proper order.
They are calm and well-behaved and impress the Hell out of anyone
who sees them. "You're kidding, they're only 14 weeks old and they
are THAT well behaved?" Yessiree Bob, they are, and we've only
had them for 12 days and have been training them (correctly for 3
days.
We still have more training exercises to do, but why fix something
if it's not broken??>?? These dogs are happy, we don't have to yell
at or scold them, they are learning to be secure and to pay attention
to us for approval and not out of fear.
I can only assume some might be threatened by this manual's methods
because it goes against all human logic on how to train a dog. It
certainly didn't make any sense to me, but I thought what the heck,
try it (even tho I still have to remind myself what to do because
my previous limited experiences with dog training were SO
DIFFERENT to the point that I almost felt like I needed to take
my brain out of my head and put it back in backwards!!!.....).....
BUT THE SYSTEM WORKS!!!
How in the world could someone just "make
something up" and it WORK?>??>?
My husband was very doubtful about this method when I told him I
wanted to try this. His dad was a vet, and certainly didn't use these
methods with the parade of dogs they had as kids. But now even HE
has to admit we're doing something right here, as our stress and
frustration levels have lowered and EVERYONE is much happier
around here, especially the dogs!
I really don't think people are used to the notion that you can train
a dog and it NOT be stressful or difficult.
It's easy IF you do it just like the manual says. It might be easier
for some to NOT do it now and go with the concept of control rather
than respect and understanding, because that's the way WE are used
to thinking and heaven forbid WE change OUR way of thinking and
admit we've done some counterproductive things in the past, right?
The results I'm seeing here with these puppies speaks volumes and
discounts what anyone tells me otherwise. This Wit's End manual
is now in a binder and we're sticking with it.
BlueMoon
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8. From: "starrk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <starrk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 27 Jun 2006 19:37:25 -0700
Subject: Re: But it's working!!!
BlueMoon wrote:
> The results I'm seeing here with these puppies speaks volumes
> and discounts what anyone tells me otherwise. This Wit's End
> manual is now in a binder and we're sticking with it.
> BlueMoon
Hi BlueMoon,
Its great that your pups are doing so well. The
Wits End method IS THE BEST WAY TO GO:-)
i wish i had found Jerry when my dog was a puppy,
would have saved so much trouble (and money).
good luck,
Crystal
---------------------------------
HERE'S HOWE COME:
From: TooCool (larrym...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method
I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.
The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.
It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.
Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.
One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.
When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.
You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).
Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.
What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.
At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leader****p exercises.
Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.
Is Jerry a nut?
It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.
More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.
I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?
Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.
Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.
Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.
Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.
If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).
--Larry
-----------------
SEE?
There's ONLY TWO *(2) reasons HOWE COME a dog
or kat would have HOWEsbreakin PROBLEMS, Phil:
1. He's SICK
OR
2. He's UNHAPPY.
Better take your HAPPY puppy to the vet, eh, Phil??
Oh, and by the way, when you're there be SHORE to advise
your veterinarian that you will not accept multiple vaccinations
in WON jab as that can destroy your puppy's auto-immune system.
You'll find the most current vaccination ADVICE on the heelth and
nutrition pages of my manual.
> When he's done, the problem is over until he wants to go again.
You'll find your "method" is CAUSING him to "want to go again"
sooner than he really WANTS TO GO AGAIN <{}: ~ ( >
> But this method doesn't work for his other problem;
ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE WAYS;
To Situations And Cir***stances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
You GET The Critter You TRAINED
If a "METHOD DOESN'T WORK" for ALL dogs and
ALL behaviors then the METHOD DOESN'T WORK
and should NOT BE USED for ANY dog or problem:
In The Problem Animal Behavior BUSINESS
FAILURE MEANS DEATH.
SAME SAME SAME SAME,
For The Problem Child Behavior BUSINESS.
Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
The Methods, Principles And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific
And Could Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective, Safe Results
For All Handler's And All Critters,
And ALL Behaviors
In ALL FIELDS And ALL UTILITIES,
ALL OVER The Whole Wild World,
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> as soon as I bring him back in again he invariably carries
> on where he left off: shagging everything remotely shagable.
Your newfHOWEND pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal
muderin punk thug coward active acute chronic life-long incurable
maliganant
maliciHOWES MENTAL CASES who's own dogs GOT
THE SAME PROBLEM for the SAME REASON recommended
surgically ***ually mutilating your puppy to CON-TROLL ITS
hyperactive behavior.
Here's a few FACTS your fellHOWE pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active acute chronic
life-long incurable malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL CASES and
veterinary malpracticioners DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW:
"Unlike what you will find in Spay/Neuter Fact Sheets,
the health impacts of spay/neuter that are discussed in
this paper are all backed up with citations to the veterinary
medical literature. You can find the paper here:
http://escregistry.kattare.com/healthEffectsOfSpayNeuterInDogs.pdf
http://www.neutering.org
Material that includes research data from 2006, 2005
was presented at ACC&D's Third International Symposium,
and part of the slideshows presentedare available here:
http://www.acc-d.org/2006%20Symposium%20Docs/Session%20I.pdf
Issues regarding previous assumptions on what neutering
does as a 'benefit' are pretty well challenged in this data above.
Alliance for Contraception in Cats and Dogs (ACC&D) is a
nonprofit 501C(3) group involved in attempting to study, define
and resolve some of the problems that currently exist internationally
as they regard issues of animal population control.
"More than 120 representatives from universities, animal welfare
organizations, foundations, companies, and government agencies
from 11 countries gathered to share information and plan for the
future". Main site: http://www.acc-d.org/
"On the negative side, neutering male dogs if done before maturity,
increases the risk of osteosarcoma (bone cancer) by a factor of 3.8;
this is a common ancer in medium/large and larger breeds with a
poor prognosis.
increases the risk of cardiac hemangiosarcoma by a factor of 1.6;
this is a common cancer and major cause of death in some breeds
triples the risk of hypothyroidism
increases the risk of geriatric cognitive impairment
triples the risk of obesity, a common health problem in dogs with
it the many associated health problems associated with obesity
· quadruples the small risk (<0.6%) of prostate cancer
· doubles the small risk (<1%) of urinary tract cancers
· increases the risk of orthopedic disorders
· increases the risk of adverse reactions to vaccinations
Hemangiosarcoma is a common cancer in dogs. It is a major
cause of death in some breeds, such as Salukis, French Bulldogs,
Irish Water Spaniels, Flat Coated Retrievers, Golden Retrievers,
Boxers, Afghan Hounds, English Setter, Scottish Terrier, Boston
Terrier, Bulldogs, and German Shepherd Dogs24.
In an aged-matched case controlled study, spayed females were
found to have a 2.2 times higher risk of splenic hemangiosarcoma
compared to intact females24.
A retrospective study of cardiac hemangiosarcoma risk factors
found a >5 times greater risk in spayed female dogs compared
to intact female dogs and a 1.6 times higher risk in neutered male
dogs compared to intact male dogs.25
The authors suggest a protective effect of *** hormones against
hemangiosarcoma, especially in females.
In breeds where hermangiosarcoma is an im****tant cause of
death, the increased risk associated with spay/neuter is likely
one that should factor into decisions on whether or when to
sterilize a dog.
Hypothyroidism
Spay/neuter in dogs was found to be correlated with a three fold
increased risk of hypothyroidism compared to intact dogs. The
researchers suggest a cause-and-effect relation****p26.
They wrote: "More im****tant [than the mild direct impact on thyroid
function] in the association between [spaying and] neutering and
hypothyroidism may be the effect of *** hormones on the immune
system.
Castration increases the severity of autoimmune thyroiditis in mice"
which may explain the link between spay/neuter and hypothyroidism
in dogs.
"Dr. Spain, who has been recently involved in many studies *****sing
the long-term risks and benefits of early-age neutering, presented
convincing data about the effects of spay/neuter on hip dysplasia,
cranial cruciate ligament rupture, long bone development, body
weight, diabetes, urinary tract infections, mammary cancer, and
several other conditions."
CONCLUSIONS
An objective reading of the veterinary medical literature reveals
a complex situation with respect to the longterm health impacts
of spay/neuter in dogs.
The evidence shows that spay/neuter correlates with both positive
AND adverse health effects in dogs. It also suggests how much we
really do not yet understand about this subject.
On balance, it appears that no compelling case can be made for
neutering most male dogs to prevent future health problems,
especially immature male dogs. The number of health problems
associated with neutering may exceed the associated health
benefits in most cases.
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> Whatever I use to distract him gets shagged or ignored.
Well Phil, perhaps "DISTRACTION CAN BE A BIG MISTAKE"??:
Here's professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM research at UofWI,
marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM "NO!" into ITS face
for five seconds and lock IT in a box for ten minutes contemplation,"
dermer, PRYOR to gettin JERRYIZED:
From: Marshall Dermer (der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 06:49:13 PST
And how do we know this aspect of his
advice is right?
Jerry is not God and his manual is not the Bible.
His advice could be subject to an empirical analysis.
(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-tempered,
ill-mannered, or just plain ill.),
--Marshall
Marshall Lev Dermer/ Department of Psychology/ University of
Wisconsin-Milwaukee/ Milwaukee, WI 53201/ der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
"Life is just too serious to be taken entirely seriousyl!"
Subject:
Subject changed: JUMPING / MOUTHING On PEOPLE (Ninnyboy)
26 From: Marshall Dermer -
Date: Tues, Aug 14 2001 8:15 pm
Email: der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Marshall Dermer)
In article <2e501ccd.0108141341.7f18d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
mattburns...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Matthew Burnside) writes:
Dear Matt:
Many have offered Jerry constructive advice but
Jerry has failed to profit from it.
My sincere advice is to filter out Jerry's posts.
--Marshall
PS: I have put "Ninnyboy" in the header for many of us filter
posts with this term. The term indicates that the post
is about Jerry.
I have read rpdb for about five years. Consequently, I urge
newbies to attend to the civil and rational posts of the rpdb
regulars from whom I have learned much. They include:
Ann (,Twzl, Sligo & Roy), Amy Dahl, Diane Blackman,
jdoee, Janet Boss, Susan Fraser, Avrama Gingold, Nancy
Holmes, Lynn Kosmakos, Bob Maida, MaryBeth, Ruth
Mays, Cindy Tittle Moore, Robin Nuttall, Denna Pace,
John Richardson, Sarah Sionnach, Ludwig Smith, Jane
Webb, and Terri Willis.
*(EVERY WON of them got VERY LONG POSTED CASE}
HISTORIES of INCURABLE MENTAL ILLNESS an HURTIN
INTIMIDATIN an MURDERIN INNOCENT DEFENSELESS
DUMB CRITTERS an LYIN abHOWET IT.)
Marshall Lev Dermer/Associate Professor/Behavior Analysis
Specialty/ Department of Psychology/University of
Wisconsin--Milwaukee/Milwaukee, WI 53201
der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
"If I am not for myself, who will be for me. But if I am only for
myself, what am I?" _The Talmud_
YOU'RE FRAUDS, drs p. and dermer!
Either DEFEND your LIES, ABUSE And
Degrees or get the heel HOWETA THIS
BUSINESS.
From: der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Marshall Dermer) -
Date: 1998/08/28
Subject: Re: Puppy growls and snaps
In article <6s6ea0$8c...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Marshall
Dermer) writes: In article <35E60819.65178...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > tami sutherland <suthe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes: However, there
> > have been incidences where she has growled and snapped at us...
> > for instance, when we were trying to dry her off after bathtime.
> When your three-month old pooch growls or snaps, IMMEDIATELY
> pick her up ONLY by the skin at the back of her neck, for 5 sec, and
> loudly say, "NO!" Alternatively, say "NO!" and hold her mouth shut
> for say 15 sec.
>
> If she so snaps that you can't do the above then you will have to find
> another way to administer a prompt correction, for example, throwing
> a can filled with pennies, or a tug on the collar. --Marshall
"Oops! I would start by only holing her mouth shut for say 5 sec.
At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.
First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.
How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.
**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************
When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).
"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, professor of ANAL-ytic behavior, UofWI.
From: Marshall Dermer (der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Update on Puppy Biting
Date: 1999/06/14
In article <37675817.19034...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
clayn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> My previous thread seems to have deteriorated off topic, but I would
> still like some input on biting and aggressive behavior. To recount I
> have a Chow/Lab mix who is now 9 weeks old. The biggest problem
> I had with him is biting.
> This could have been when petting him, walking by, or when
> playing. This seems to be his way of playing or getting attention,
> but it can drive me nuts. To stop this I've distracted with chew toys,
Distraction can be a BIG mistake! Why? Because if
your manipulation of the chew toy is reinforcing then
you are inadvertently reinforcing your dog for biting if
you follow his biting with activating the chew toy.
The standard way to curtail biting is to either "yelp
loudly," "clamp the dog's mouth shut with your hand,"
or "pick him up by the scruff of his neck" and say "no"
whenever he bites.
All of these are punishment procedures and
to work they must be put into place promptly,
within say .5 sec, after the bite.
Isolating the dog after a bite is another form
of punishment called time-out (from reinforcement
but it is hard to rapidly implement--within .5
sec of a bite.
If one of these procedures does not work, that is,
your dog behaves as if it were a game, then you
are not using an effective punisher/procedure.
> I said NO, and failing that put him in my room alone for a few min.
> When in there he barks and whines, but afterwards behaves much
> better. After about a week of this the biting has decreased remarkably,
> but hasn't stopped outright. Still does it when he gets into hyper Puppy
> Jihad mode.
Well, be patient.
You can, of course, use differential reinforcement
of other behavior to eliminate biting. If there is a
situation in which your dog often bites. then create
the situation and if your dog goes without biting for
1 sec. offer a reinforcer (click and treat if you use
a clicker).
Then gradually increase the time that your dog
must go without biting for the reinforcer to be
delivered. Eventually, your dog will not bite and
the other behaviors that you have been reinforcing
will be more frequent.
Another factor to consider is whether your dog
is getting sufficient exercise.
Mine will go "bonkers" if he has been exercise deprived.
Best wishes,
Marshall
=====================
"Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul B (NOSPAMpand...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST
Hello Marshall,
The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.
The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.
A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.
One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.
While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an im****tant
part of the process.
> Thanks Paul! He does recommend praising
> a dog for barking, but he appears to recognize
> that this may not work and so distraction
> is recommended as a back up procedure:
No, not "backup"; FIRST, pryor to usin sounds.
professor SCRUFF SHAKE sez:
> There really is NOTHING new about the advice above!
Nuthin EXXXCEPT HOWE IT'S DONE, professor.
From: "Marisa" <mari...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002
Subject: one day
I started some of the simple techniques in
Jerrys manual today.
The family pack exercise.... come command.....
that's all so far though.
I did get the proper equipment as well.
20 foot leash, cans with pennies partially
crushed, flat collar, etc.
I have also stopped any negative reinforcment
such as loud "No" and "Bad girl Sonique!"
(Sonique is my Jack russell) and holding her
back, which I normally MUST do or she'll jump
and nip sometimes, but always jumping and barking.
Already tonight some has started working.
When someone came to the door, Sonique
went nuts as usual.
I said "Thank you Sonique!"
"It's o.k. girl, thank you!"
And we got a total of about 6 barks and then
no jumping on guests, no biting, growling
or the worst, the continued barking she
normally does.
She accepted my praise, and trooted around,
still excited over guests, but she was WAY
more under control.
Even my roomates noticed this.
She repeated this same thing
without all her normal fuss later
when another two friends came over.
So I do need more time, going to keep with it
another day, another month whatever until I
know I am getting results, although I must say,
so far I am impressed with my dog.
She really responds to praise better than
she ever has responded to treats as distraction
from the guests and doorbell, or me yelling
"bad girl! go away now! shoosh up!" all the time.
I am also verbally praising her everytime
she makes eye contact with me. so hopefully
things will continue going well!-
- Marisa
From: "0513chgo" <0513c...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 16 May 2002
Subject: Re: Jerry Howe
Marshall Dermer wrote in message ... > In articleSsyE8.20247$t8_.
12...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Marisa" <mari...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
>> So I downloaded your Wits End today,
>> and I have started reading, and I am
>> planning on using it from now on and
>> see what results I get.
> Marisa you have much hard reading
> ahead of you because Jerry's manual
> is verbose and spends about as many
> lines condeming other approaches as
> describing what to do.
Please leave Marisa be and let her be happy
with training her dog the way she wants to!
From: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Subject: Re: Jerry Howe
He CAN'T.
He's fighting for his career and reputation...he's F'd.
Jerry.
--------------------
From: Marshall Dermer (der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-10 13:34:38 PST
In article <HRI27.3908$187.184...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Jenn"
<d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> Hi Lynn,
> I used to have a barking problem with my
> German Shepherd Dog a couple of years ago.
> I tried several things recommended to me by
> different trainers, and nothing was working.
> When I read that section of Jerry's Manual,
> I thought the same way you did.
> "What???? PRAISE her for barking?" It sounded
> counterproductive, but I had tried everything else
> I'd heard so I thought I'd try it too.
> Next time she went nuts at a person walking by
> outside, I told her, "Good job! Good girl! You are
> such a good protector!" And instead of continuing
> the barking, she came to me for a belly rub! She
> will still bark (she's a guard dog, that's her job),
> but after one bark, she knows she's done her job
> to warn me by my praise, and she stops.
> Jenn,
Could you be so kind as to post here the
section from Jerry's manual where he
writes that you should JUST praise the
dog when it barks?????????
As I recall, I thought he first advocates
distracting the dog from barking, with
keys or the soft sound of pennies in a
can, before praising.
Perhaps you can tutor me regarding
Jerry's system.
Thanks in advance!
--Marshall Dermer
PS: I don't read Jerry's posts but I look
forward to your post.
From: Marshall Dermer (der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Clicker training "stay"
Date: 2001-06-21 20:25:38 PST
In article <iqtY6.5456$rA2.1119...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
"Jenn" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> Hi, DogStar716, sorry you feel this way about
> me. I hope I can change your mind in the future,
> as I love reading your posts, and value (and
> have used) some of your advice.
BWWWWWEEEJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAA!!!
> As for my post to Jer, I am just attempting
> to get a plain answer about something instead
> of a trash- fest. I just want to know if it can be
> done.
> Jenn Standring
I'm not Jerry but sure you could use a clicker to
distract a dog but that is not the purpose of a clicker.
You can also use a teaspoon to cut steak
but that is not the purpose of teaspoon!
--Marshall
"Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message news:9ihtee$7ib$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Paul B (NOSPAMpand...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-12 00:13:28 PST
Hello Marshall,
The way I view it from my observation of how
my dogs react is that the distraction interrupts
the dogs thought, not for good or bad, just
interrupts, the dog is therefore distracted for
a second and then will either continue the
behaviour or do something else.
The praise reassures the dog that the sound
distraction is not a threat or punishment,
however if everytime the dog resumes a
particular behaviour it's distracted immediately
(and praised immediately for reassurance) then
it quickly decides this behaviour is not fulfilling
and it ceases.
A dog will offer another behaviour in it's place
and if that is acceptable to us then we let it be
otherwise the distraction continues until a suitable
alternate behaviour is offered.
One example, Sam used to jump up on me
when I arrived home, I would shake can to
distract him right at the moment he was
about to jump up, after about 4 repetitions
he tried sitting and offering me his paw, of
course this was fine so I let it be.
While the concept of shake cans is not new,
I haven't read any other advice that says to
praise immediately regardless of what the
dog does next (the common advice is to
praise once the dog is doing a desired
behaviour or at least stopped the unwanted
behaviour), this is unique to Jerry (and Marilyn)
and from my own experiences is an im****tant
part of the process.
> Thanks Paul! He does recommend praising
> a dog for barking, but he appears to recognize
> that this may not work and so distraction
> is recommended as a back up procedure:
> There really is NOTHING new about the advice above!
Nuthin EXXXCEPT HOWE IT'S DONE:
Subject: Jerry's Dog Training Manual + I Am Willing To
Take Jerry's Theory On How Dogs Think As A Likely One,
Simply Because The Dog Training Methodology He Describes
(Based On His Suppositions) Works So Well.
Hi Marshall,
I'll do my best to answer you... please bear with me, ok? :-)
Marshall Dermer wrote:
> In article <3B4B013F.914E0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 2tails
<wagginta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> <snip Dave's response>
> > Not to mention, the manual has a lot regarding how dogs
> > think, which can't be explained just by a short description
> > of "what to do." The psychology behind the method is
> > needed so that the person reading it will be able to figure
> > out their dogs' problems by themselves. Problems, as in
> > "why is my dog doing 'X,'" and figuring out ways to address
> > it, if necessary.
> > regards,
> > Lisa
> Dear Lisa,
> How would you know if Jerry's analysis of "how dog's
> think" is correct? That is, if thinking is some invisible
> process inside of a dog's head how would we know if
> Jerry or anyone is correct?
Of course, it isn't necessary at all to know how dogs think,
or even if they *do* think. I believe that they do, but of
course I can't prove it, and neither can Jerry.
The heart of the matter is, the discussion in the manual
regarding "how dogs think" is part of a wholistic approach
to dog training. It helps to comprehend the reasoning
behind the methodology. The methodology works quickly
and easily, therefore lending credence (as far as I'm
concerned) to his theory of how dogs think.
It's the same sort of thing regarding theories of whether
the earth revolves around the sun, or contrariwise. Is it
possible to send a rocket to the moon, based on the
assumption that the sun revolves around the earth?
The answer is, of course, yes, though it would most likely
be enormously complicated. The better solution is to begin
with the theory that the earth revolves around the sun.
In other words, the simplest answer or description is the best,
even though it may not be empirically provable. And so, I am
willing to take Jerry's theory on how dogs think as a likely one,
simply because the dog training methodology he describes
(based on his suppositions) works so well.
I hope this helps you to understand from which
perspective I say the things that I do about Jerry's
method and manual.
regards,
Lisa
------------------------
> 1) Is this normal behaviour for a 9 week old pup?
No, Phil, it's "NORMAL" for a highly FRUSTRATED critter of any age.
> 2) Is he likely to ever grow out of it, or will he get worse?
Not likely to HOWEtgrow it, but it'll PROBABLY CHANGE to
aggression or destructive or self mutilation behaviors as he matures.
> 3) Does anyone here have any experience with this
> problem who can offer me some advice?
I've been rather ENJOYING watchin you take a good schtuppin
at the hands of your newfHOWEND dog lover pals <{}: ~ ) >
> Oh Christ - he's doing it again! Must go .....
Yeah. Take this with you:
Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:
"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Sup****t Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.
From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,
I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.
You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to
alert the world to animal abuse.
We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and sup****t your valuable
work.
Have you thought of establi****ng a nonprofit
charity to fund your im****tant work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?
In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.
--Marshall Dermer
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Subject: Proposed article for Wikipedia
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006
The Amazing Puppy Wizard is the cognomen of a dog behaviorist,
Jerry Howe, of Orlando, Fl. Howe's primary teaching is that
dogs deserve unconditional love, respect, and attention and
that by providing these emotional needs dogs will regulate
their own behavior.
Howe is bombastically antagonistic to rewarders, but he
is aggressively hostile to punishers - he refers antagonists
to B.F. Skinner, Mary Cover Jones, and J.B. Watson and
especially to Samuel A. Corson when they mistakenly
annunciate behavioral principles to sup****t their use of
punishment.
Punishment always deranges behavior, says Skinner,
Jones, Watson, Corson and Jerry Howe!
Howe developed a sonic device which calms dogs and has
been broadly tested in a wide range of different situations.
The present author is a Who's Who recognized psychologist
who was asked to evaluate Howe's device by a former student.
Howe provided the author with a device, without
charge, and said device worked as re****ted.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cross reference to Jerry Howe, etc.
Jerry, the difficulty with these ignorant dog molesters
is that they cannot read. Negative reinforcement is no
response by the trainer.
There is positive reinforcement, an action which is followed
by an increase in the targetted behavior (usually called
"reward" which is precisely and technically a misnomer),
negative reinforcement is the absence of any response.
Negative means 'No'.
Skinner's last book, "***ULATIVE RECORD" reviews this
thoroughly. http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/proj/nru/nr.html
Negative reinforcement is stopping an aversive reinforcement
according to this author. Read it, they have a sense of humor!
There are four forms of systematic reinforcement:
do nothing (negative reinforcement)
reward the behavior (positive reinforcement)
punish the behavior (aversive reinforcement)
after habituating the subject to punishment,
stop puni****ng (relief of aversion, which is negative reinforcement).
Logically, failing to reward after habituating a reward
is also negative reinforcement. Actually intermittent
rewards work better than consistent, invariable rewards,
so there is actually another two categories. Invariable
reinforcement and random reinforcement (on varying schedules).
Punishment is AVERSIVE REINFORCEMENT.
Actions which cause the animal being trained to avoid,
avert, cringe away from. Pavlovians always responded
to American psychologist's inability to reproduce Pavlov's
results with dogs with the comment, "American's don't LOVE
their dogs". If you ever observed a Russian psychologist
working with a dog, you'd instantly see the difference.
American psychologists were wooden, robot-like,
wanted to be "scientific".
This meant to them that they should display no
affection, or any other emotion with the subjects.
When a Pavlovian dog started to misbehave or fail to respond,
doggie was taken out of the equipment, and taken home for a
loving vacation, with much TLC. Sam Corson, Pavlov's last
student, demonstrated the same relation****ps at Ohio State.
Interestingly the first page of results for Sam Corson,
dog behaviorist is loaded with Jerry Howe quoting Dr. Von.
heh heh heh
Dr. Von
Oh, by the way, you once had a pompous fellow say that
Dr. Von was a figment of your imagination. I don't
normally mention this, but I have been listed in Who's
Who in the S & SE USA since 1982, and in the big books,
Who's Who in the USA, WW in the World, WW in Medicine
etc, and WW in Science and Technology, since that date.
These are the Marquis Publications, the "real" WW, and
you can't get yourself into them.
GvH
--------------------
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D."
To: "Jerry Howe" <theamazingpuppywiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Subject: Alleged Professors of Animal Behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005
Dear Jerry, I paged through some of the "dog business"
and was astonished at the low quality of opinions arising
from professors of behavior analysis.
I had the very great privilege of meeting Sam Corson (Pavlov's
last Ph.D. student) and his dogs at Ohio University. I even got
to spend a night at Sam's house. There is no question but that
you are a spiritual brother to Corson and to Pavlov, both of whom
knew that the dog's great capacity for love was the key to shaping
doggie behavior.
Paradoxical reward and paradoxical fixing of attention are
both well do***ented Pavlovian techniques. Even so humorless
a chap as B.F. Skinner taught students like the Breland's whose
"The Misbehavior of Organisms" demonstrate the utility of your
methods and their deep roots in scientific (as opposed to commercial)
psychology.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
you may find my resume in Who's Who
in Science and Technology
-------------------
From: "Dr. Von" <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 12 Sep 2005 10:52:19 -0700
Subject: Re: Clicker Training for Dogs Newsgroups?
> Jen "artbylucy" <artbyl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:OMudnRS23OLEc7zenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Hello, Does anyone know of a dedicated newsgroup for
> > positive-only dog training, in particular clicker training?
>
> > Thanks, Lucy
Jen wrote:
> I would love to know of one as well. If there was enough people
> interested maybe we could start one. I've just started clicker training
my
> dog and have been doing the positive training for a while now. I think
> it's great!!
Jen, your request for a positive only dog training list,
needs the same answer as I give the folk who ask why I
don't have a list for what I do with biofeedback.
The method is so simple, and if you adopt it and relate
to your dog in such a positive manner you won't have any
more problems and there is no need for any more technique.
With Puppies we Ph.D. psychologists have been outflanked
by the entirely practical and effective methods described
in http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u.
Free download, nothing
sold, no mailing list, no distribution of your name. Free
sup****t if needed.
With ADHD kids I provide similar information at
www.drbiofeedback.com and there is no need for
a list dealing with problems with kids. Apply
as directed and have happy healthy doggies or
kiddies.
Not difficult.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
P.S. jerk and choke, spanking, shocking, scruff shake,
choke, chin chucks, all those negatives, denial of
affection etc. are harmful, dranging, obscenities.
You might want to consider Pavlov's typology to
understand "hard and soft dogs" - essentially he
taught that there are outward and inward responding
organisms in weak and strong nervous systems and if
you grasp this firmly you'll shape your training
methods effectively.
Punishment ALWAYS deranges behavior, and so is
recommended and given only by deranged humans.
Of course, it doesn't matter if we are talking
dogs, cats, people, sheep, even husbands.
Dr. Von
---------------
Abuse / Fear / Aggression / Hyperactivity / Shyness /
Depression / Suicide Attempts AIN'T Genetic Problems,
They're SPIRITUAL PROBLEMS,
Passed On From WON GeneratiHOWEN Of Abuser
To The Next,
Like The 100th Monkey Wa****n Fruit In The Stream.
After A While It's Not Just NORMAL, It's
-OBLIGATORY-
To Do OtherWIZE Would Be
DISRESPECTFUL
Of Your Parental Teachins.
The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME Is the Perfect Synergy Of
Love, Pride, Desire, Shame, Greed, Ego, Fear, Hate, Reflex,
Self Will, Arrogance, Ignorance, Predjudice, Cowardice,
Disbelief, Jealousy, Embarrassment, Embellishment, Guilt,
Anger, Hopelessness, Helplesness, Aversion, Attraction,
Inhibition, Revulsion, Repulsion, Change, Permanence,
Enlightenment, Insult, Attrition And Parental / ReligiHOWES /
Societal CONDITIONING;
YOU ARE THE CRITTER YOU WAS TRAINED.
It Is The Perfect Fusion Of The Word..., In The Physical.
There Are NO GRAY AREAS
Between
RIGHT And WRONG.
From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
To: Biofeedback Yahoo
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: doggydoright
Shucks, I mentioned how Jerry Howe, the Puppy
Wizard, teaches how to eliminate the need for
punishment, including time out, and forgot to give
Jerry's website http://www.doggydoright.com
Jerry is a perfect example of teaching using fun,
humor, and effective methods. Pedantic, Jerry
is not.
If your neighbors' animals are driving you crazy,
his ultrasonic device is amazingly effective.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
=============
A non dog owner, Dr. Von, a child psychogist and
biofeedback training specialist, tested my machine
at the request of one of his friends who wanted his
opinion as to the efficacy of my machine. He loves
the concept, as it mirrors his approach to educating
difficult children:
> > Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:41:01 -0500
> > From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Subject: "time-out"
> > Dan, my own firm hatred of punishment has
> > recently been intensified by meeting The
> > Puppy Wizard, Jerry Howe, whose work with
> > dogs is marvelous.
> > There is a literature on harms caused by time
> > out, and perhaps you'd like to look at
> > http://www.dogydoright.com
> > George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
> From: "psylist" <davegif...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To: <biofeedb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:36 PM
> Subject: [biofeedback] re: time out
> Many recent posts have make me ever so
> grateful that I listened carefully in my Classical
> Conditioning and Instrumental Learning class
> as an undergraduate (and ditto for Harry Harlow's
> Primate Behavior class).
> If there's one area in psychology where the
> definitions are solid and the science is well-defined,
> this is it.
> This has given me days of guilt-free use of the delete key.
> BTW - George I looked at the site mentioned
> below for more information. Is the bearded guy
> in the picture holding a bong or is this possibly
> the "automagick" trainer?
> For well-grounded practical animal and human
> training procedures also see "Don't Shoot the
> Dog" by Karen Pryor.
> Later ;-}
> Dave Giffen
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: <biofeedb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:01 AM
Subject: www.doggydoright.com
Dave, anyone who knows me knows I am
enormously skeptical of all folk who chose
to present themselves as Merlin, oops, I
mean Jerry Howe does.
Well, you can't tell the book by the cover! I wonder
if any of you are old enough to remember Moondog?
Jerry, free of the influence of any psychology courses,
may be the most effective practical psychologist there is!
Not only does Jerry's wonderful device calm dogs so
that your neighbors' canines stop barking all night, I
am ac***ulating evidence that your abusive angry
husband or wife calms down, too.
Shucks, Jerry may just put us all out of business.
I'm awaiting an opinion as to the ethics of putting
the device on a pole outside a school. Since official
psychology ignores the device, and all the opinions
from professors I've derived (except for several who
used it to shut up their neighbors' dogs) is that
"it can't work"
doing nothing ought to be ethical, right?
George
P.S., knowing Jerry its probably a bong.
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From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: [GVS]doggydoright
I just had a nice talk with the man who invented
the "doggydoright" device.
If you know someone working at a shelter etc
who wants to quieten the dogs in the neighborhood
then this is an ideal present for them - and he will
sell it at a discount. He sounds like someone we
all know who has no sense at all about money.
Nice, nice man.
"doggydoright" may be obtained from
ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
now have four locations at which the thing has worked,
so I recommend it.
Yap yap yap no more! I have zero financial interest in this.
George
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SEE?
"Linda" <llindaleedan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in message
news:
I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.
At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.
I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.
I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.
I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
have the people stop until he could get in control using
treats, and work on clicker training.
At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when
I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women
who hasn't trained her dog"
I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
responsible for him."
*(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sun****ne
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)
As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.
The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 months!
Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?
I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.
When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"
The results can make a believer!!!
Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
in a busy shopping area with many dogs.
He just seemed to not notice any one.
When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.
I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.
If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.
My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!
I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.
I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!
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From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression
Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sun****ne but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.
We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!
We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.
He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!
Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.
I can never thank you enough for giving Sun****ne back!!!!!
I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.
I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-
- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.
They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.
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"The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
may acquire those rights
which never could have been withholden from them
but by the hand of tyranny.
The question is not can they REASON,
nor can they TALK,
but can they SUFFER?" -
- Jeremy Bentham
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
for the good of its victims,
may be the most oppressive.
Those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end,
for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." -
- C.S. Lewis.
"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
Agamemnon.
All truth p***** through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer
"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.
"If you've got them by the balls
their hearts and minds
will follow,"
John Wayne.
"Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
"Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain!"
-Friedrich Schiller.
INDEEDY.
AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!
In Love And Light,
I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours,
The World's CRUELEST Trainer
Jerry Howe,
The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
*M-A-J-E-S-T-I-C* *G-R-A-N-D* *M-A-S-T-E-R*
Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Ferret, Goat, Monkey
SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ;~ ) >
HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >
Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092 (Call ANY TIME)
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard
E-mail:
Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(_o_) Have a great day!
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