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What's "Ping!"?

by "Bad Puppy" <BadAssedDogs@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 24, 2008 at 01:54 PM

From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:47:58 GMT

Subject: Re: What's "ping"?

HOWEDY Nat,


"Nat" <nath...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:y8qdnVowErqn55ndRVn-sQ@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> After a long dry spell I've managed to get back to r.p.d.b,

Are you EMBARRASSED to IDENTIFY which Nat you are?


> and am wondering about all the posts starting
> with "ping". I know what ping is in a technical
> sense, but not as it seems to be used here.

> Nat



That "Ping!" is HOWER METAL CASE'S ANTI PSYCHOTIC
medications hittin their serving dishs. What time do you need to
take yours? HOWER DOG LOVERS will be pleased to remind
you so you don't get the brain freezes again.

CAVEAT: This list HAS NOT been updated:

                         WORDS OF WISDOM
                    from our own Lynn Kosmakos


  "I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder
   (manic-depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and
   50 mg of Zoloft every day.  I, also, care about dogs
   and use this forum to learn more, while happily sharing
   pertinent information I have learned.  But if I were ever
   to post such sh*t, I would hope that every other reader
   of this group would be rightfully outraged."


  "Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
   the right to participate in by observing the easily
   understood rules and contributing to in constructive ways."


   Lynn K.


I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM


----------------------------------------- 


Here's the RHOWENDUP:


RPD* MeNTally Ill All_StaRz as of 12/21/03


NEW!!


LYNN K.  20 plus years on Lithium LOIS E.
25 plus years on tricyclics


Hello Fans,


here is our latest NEW AND IMPROVED crazy person
update, including our latest mentally unstable person,
Lois E. of Gary and Lois fame who has been on Tricyclics
pu****ng 25 years. She is no longer afraid to talk about it.

Neither is Lynn K. who embraces her mental illness and
opens up about her 20 plus years on Lithium, as well as
her love afair with Zoloft.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! RPD* Ment_ally Ill All_StaRz as of 12/21/03

Lois E. (of Gary and Lois fame)


Lois' has been on tricyclic antidepressants for approximately
25 years. This may be a record. Husband is a cop but there is
no evidence that he beats the crap out of her, or that he has
for 25 years.


Had a traumatic experience as a child with a horse running
wild in the Pantry and living room. In recent years, shot
neighbor's dog from point blank range while it was chewing on
her pigmy goat, teaching son to solve problems with the
neighbor's using shock and awe levels of violence."


===================


BEEN ON TRICYCLICS FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS


  "I don't take lithium, but I've been on trycyclics for about
  22 years. Been there, done that, have the t-****rt to prove
  it. What's really terrific, is now days you can say proudly,


  "I take anti-depressives". Back when I started taking them
  it was seen as something shameful. If you cut your leg off,
  and were lying there with a bleeding stump, you'd never let
  the word depressed, pass your lips, or the doc's would say,
  "You're depressed, on medication? Well, can't have any pain
  meds.....you could become addicted." The good old days. I
  actually had a Great Aunt who's father locked her in her
  room back in the twenties because she was simple. A shame
  that medication probably would have helped her live a normal
  life. No Denna, I was just saying with   Darlene's
  personality, she has a way of making grandiose plans when at
  the top of her manic cycle....as does my daughter. I wasn't
  saying that anyone with problems could be counted on to be
  irresponsible."


  Lois E.


=============================================


Lois E. (of Gary and Lois fame)


Lois' has been on tricyclic antidepressants for approximately
25 years. This may be a record. Husband is a cop but there is
no evidence that he beats the crap out of her, or that he has
for 25 years.


Had a traumatic experience as a child with a horse running
wild in the Pantry and living room. In recent years, shot
neighbor's dog from point blank range while it was chewing on
her pigmy goat, teaching son to solve problems with the
neighbor's using shock and awe levels of violence."


BEEN ON TRICYCLICS FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS


  "I don't take lithium, but I've been on trycyclics for about
  22 years. Been there, done that, have the t-****rt to prove
  it. What's really terrific, is now days you can say proudly,


  "I take anti-depressives". Back when I started taking them
  it was seen as something shameful. If you cut your leg off,
  and were lying there with a bleeding stump, you'd never let
  the word depressed, pass your lips, or the doc's would say,
  "You're depressed, on medication? Well, can't have any pain
  meds.....you could become addicted." The good old days. I
  actually had a Great Aunt who's father locked her in her
  room back in the twenties because she was simple. A shame
  that medication probably would have helped her live a normal
  life. No Denna, I was just saying with   Darlene's
  personality, she has a way of making grandiose plans when at
  the top of her manic cycle....as does my daughter. I wasn't
  saying that anyone with problems could be counted on to be
  irresponsible."


  Lois E.


=============================================


From: Chris Kosmakos (chris...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re:
complaints and goodbye


Lisa K. Baird (lba...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) wrote:
:
: Sheesh, if everyone would start taking responsibility for
: their own actions, wouldn't life be grand?


  "I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder
   (manic-depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of
   Zoloft every day.  I, also, care about dogs and use this
   forum to learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
   information I have learned.  But if I were ever to post
   such sh*t, I would hope that every other reader of this
   group would be rightfully outraged."


  "Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
   the right to participate in by observing the easily
   understood rules and contributing to in constructive ways."


   Lynn K.


I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIM
----------------------------------------- 


LYNN K. and LOIS E, and a BiLateral, BiPolar
conversation on Mental problems.  LYNN AND
LOIS Almost 50 years on mental illness medications
combined


----------------------------------------- 



> But I think what Lois was referring to was the fact that
> Darlene actually stated at some point that she was
> bipolar--and, IIRC, that meds did not work for her--so she
> was prone to major-league ups and downs and sudden
> enthusiasms..


  "It wasn't that meds didn't work for her - she wouldn't take
  them. I particularly remember a comment she made about
  scarey side effects of Lithium.  Hardly.  After 17 years on
  it, I think I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
  any side effect is far less frightening than the very real
  dangers of life without it."

  Lynn K.
----------------------------------------- 


LYNN K. and the UNQUIET MIND
---------------------------------------- 


From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re: Where is
Darlene? Date: 1999/09/03



BoxHill wrote:
> I know I am totally off topic here, but have you read
>  "The Unquiet Mind"?


  Yeah.  It's interesting, but kind of watered down for the
  mass market, if you know what I mean.  There's really quite
  a lot of good work out there and decent research.  Thank
  God.

  Lynn K.
--------------------------------------- 


MOTHER AND CHILD REUNION "KUCKOO!! CUCKOO!!!"


MOTHER (LOIS E.)22 YEARS on TRICYCLICS, DAUGHTER BIPOLAR... YOU DO
THE MATH


"What's really terrific, is now days you can say
proudly, 'I take anti-depressives'"


------------------------------------- 


From: Gary & lois Edwards (ga...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re: Where
is Darlene? Date: 1999/09/02


  BEEN ON TRICYCLICS FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS


  "I don't take lithium, but I've been on trycyclics for about
  22 years. Been there, done that, have the t-****rt to prove
  it. What's really terrific, is now days you can say proudly,


  "I take anti-depressives". Back when I started taking them
  it was seen as something shameful. If you cut your leg off,
  and were lying there with a bleeding stump, you'd never let
  the word depressed, pass your lips, or the doc's would say,
  "You're depressed, on medication?  Well, can't have any pain
  meds.....you could become addicted."


  The good old days. I actually had a Great Aunt who's father
  locked her in her room back in the twenties because she was
  simple. A shame that medication probably would have helped
  her live a normal life.


  No Denna, I was just saying with   Darlene's personality,
  she has a way of making grandiose plans when at the top of
  her manic cycle....as does my daughter. I wasn't saying that
  anyone with problems could be counted on to be
  irresponsible."


  Lois E.
------------------------------------- 


Kelly/ severe OCD, ADD, major depression with culprit
psychotic features, panic and more. Coming forward so that
others like her will have the strength to do the same. Like
Charlie Wilkes, she is one of our most entertraining regulars


Here, kelly/culprit talks to Mustang Sally about her mental
illness/crazy problems. Sally is being rude and condescending
(as usual) and trying to make kelly/culprit feel bad for being
crazy, aka wacked in the head


culprit standing up for herself against rude and condescending
Mustang Sally ----------------------------------------------- 


well i wouldn't consider myself mentally healthy.  though i'll
refrain from calling myself ill if it makes you feel better.
and no, ADD is not the major problem, i certainly know that, i
just mentioned it because of the impulsivity issues.


i wasn't trying to imply i'm disabled by it.


but i stand by the fact that OCD is an illness, major
depression with psychotic features certainly is, panic
disorder is too.  and the other stuff just makes it all the
more fun.


i don't wallow in it.  i'm just now learning to accept it,
because ignoring it wasn't working out too well.  i need to do
that to make changes to my life so that i can become healthy.
and you say you're not trying to be condescending, but you're
doing it again.  what i read was, (my paraphrasing) "people
who think they're mentally ill are wallowing in their
disabilities and letting them consume their life" you come
across as though you would be able to handle any of these
illnesses, and anyone who can't is just copping out.


well we're all different.  and i don't accept your idea that i
would have a more productive life if i denied my problems.


i tried it for years, and believe me, it didn't work very
well.


-kelly -------------------------------------------- 


From: culprit (culp...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re: another
eevil pit bull story Date: 2003-10-08 08:47:43 PST



"Gwen Watson" <g...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message


news:3F842E58.965AAF30@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Yep there it is NAMI. And yes ADHD or ADD or considered as a
> mental illness in which one can apply for many different
> things even in the work force in which they are suppose to
> accomodate you to help improve your condition.


> But I don't care to go there so I am one of those untreated
> ADHD people in the world. Whatever I am nearly 50 and have
> gotten along just fine. Or so I feel fulfilled.



yeah, i'm pretty sure i could qualify for all sorts of
disability stuff (the OCD and ADD are just the tip of my
iceberg).  but i don't.  i know i can function well enough to
do my job, i'll leave the benefits for those that really need
them.

mine is mostly a social impairment.  go figure.  :-)


-kelly


From: sighthounds etc. (greypigho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re:
another eevil pit bull story Date: 2003-10-08 09:12:56 PST


On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:33:44 -0500, Gwen Watson
<g...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:


>culprit wrote:


>> "sighthounds etc." <greypigho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
>> message news:f8b8ov46ctu1ds18oliq439g10rod03mto@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > ADD and OCD are mental illnesses?


>> oh, BTW...



http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Inform_Yourself/Abou
t_M ental_Illness/About_Mental_Illness.htm


>> -kelly


>Yep there it is NAMI. And yes ADHD or ADD or considered as a
>mental illness in which one can apply for many different
>things even  in the work force in which they are suppose to
>accomodate you to help improve your condition.


>But I don't care to go there so I am one of those untreated
>ADHD people in the world. Whatever I am nearly  50 and have
>gotten along just fine. Or so I feel fulfilled.



I guess this is just one of those instances in which I feel
that the US is turning into a nation of victims.  And please,
don't anybody jump all over me, because I am not talking about
anyone personally. Everything seems to be a compensatable (not
sure if that's actually a word) disability.  If 3/4 of the
people are physically disabled or mentally ill, what's
'normal'?

Terrible parents, painful childhoods, physical illnesses,
psychological problems, etc. are all part of who a person is,
and therefore how s/he sees the world and interacts in it.
But life isn't about who you are and what you've got, it's
what you do with it. For me anyway, the more I think of myself
as partially disabled, the more I am that way.


Sorry, I don't mean to sound like Dr. Phil.


Mustang Sally


--------------------- 


"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.  I volunteered as
assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter for a
while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted
animals.


This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute to
that problem," Mustang Sally.


MENTAL ILLNESS IN RPD* Mental illness is a public issue in
these newsgroups. People are always running around calling
other people mentally ill and diagnosing their illnesses. I
think it's only fair that we have an accurate list of who is
and who isn't mentally ill, so that we can avoid any
misunderstandings and promote group harmony.
------------------------------------------ 


             WORDS OF WISDOM
       from our own Lynn Kosmakos


  "I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder
   (manic-depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of
   Zoloft every day.  I, also, care about dogs and use this
   forum to learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
   information I have learned.  But if I were ever to post
   such sh*t, I would hope that every other reader of this
   group would be rightfully outraged."


  "Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
   the right to participate in by observing the easily
   understood rules and contributing to in constructive ways."


   Lynn K.


I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM


----------------------------------------- 


  "It wasn't that meds didn't work for her - she wouldn't take
  them. I particularly remember a comment she made about
  scarey side effects of Lithium.  Hardly.  After 17 years on
  it, I think I'm qualified to say that the very low risk of
  any side effect is far less frightening than the very real
  dangers of life without it."


  Lynn K.
----------------------------------------- 


ROTATE YOUR MEDS!


  lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver: For barking in
  the crate - leave the leash on and pass it through the crate
  door.  Attach a line to it. When he barks, use the line for
  a correction.


 - if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.


  Lynn K.



> ================


That's INSANE. Ain't it.


>>lynn kosmakos      (Lithium, Zoloft, bipolar, manic,
>>                             depression) will "put down a
>>                             biter as fast as anyone" yet claims
>>                             to be a saintly dog rescuer


SEE? TOLD YA SO!

Here's lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's PARTNER:


"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch Right,
Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They Have A Very
Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse Into A Heap. About
The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep The Pressure Up," sindy "
don't let the dog SCREAM" mooreon, author of HOWER
FAQ's pages on k9 web.


You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to MAKE IT
HUNT is NECESSARY???


"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It A Sharp
Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know Jack Wouldn't
HaveDone It If He Thought Solo Couldn't Take It. I Still
Crate Him Because Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My
Cat," melanie.


You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?


"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author: "Courteous
Canine."


You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING is COURTEOUS?


"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently as
possible.


What  does this mean?"


Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.


"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time,
spray one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away.
The dog won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him
and continue your normal behavior."


You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?


  --Mike Dufort
    author of the zero selling book "Courteous Canines"


You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?



>  I think you'll find that most are quite willing to
> discuss not only their programs,


YOU HURT and KILL DOGS, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.


> but others in your area that would be suitable for you.


Know what? The OP would do better askin a MENTAL
CASE off the street than relyin on you and you MENTALLY
ILL LYIN DOG ABUSIN PUNK THUG COWARDS:


> Lynn K.
>>Lynn K. wrote:

>>"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in one
>>shelter.)  But their ability to set their own schedules and
>>duties causes a great deal of scheduling overhead.


>>And it takes effort and thought to ensure that volunteers
>>get the meaningful experience that they work for.


>>Someone has to be responsible for that Volunteer Program,
>>and it is best done by a non-volunteer."


>>Lynn K. --------------------------------- 


>>"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed every
>>adoptable dog on intake.  I frankly felt that the
>>effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
>>older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted
>>condition.


>>Should I have refused to groom them?


>>Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who had to
>>make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."


>>Lynn K. -------------------------------------- 



"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.  I volunteered as
assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter for a
while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted
animals.

This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute to
that problem," Mustang Sally.


 I'll be you've never had to put down litters of beautiful
 labrador puppies? If you had did, maybe you'd be singing a
 different tune?


"Actually, have held them for the tech to euth, and put their
bodies in the trash bag and in the freezer for the trash
company to come and dispose of.


No different tune," ~Emily



> (replies to the list please)


INDEEDY. On accHOWENT of The Puppy Wizard
don't want noWON to miss the FREAK PARADE:

From: Sunni12 (sunn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: I am Newsgroups:
alt.sup****t.depression Date: 1998/12/02


a major ***** today


-Sunny


--------------- 


From: Sunni12 (sunn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re: got a question -
how long before I'm an EX-cutter? Newsgroups:
alt.sup****t.depression Date: 1998/11/30



> I mean, I haven't cut since June.  But am I a cutter or an
> ex-cutter now?

> And how long before I am an ex-cutter?  anyone got any
> answers?


> I still get sort-of cutting urges, but I haven't had 'em
> very strongly.Just sort of vague thoughts in my head. But I
> think that's going to happen forever.


> Kind of like alcoholics who recover.


> I know that the urge will come back at times of stress, but
> I don't have to do it.


>so, when am I an ex-cutter?



Its been about 9 months since I last cut.

I consider myself a recovering self injurer.


I still get the urge at times.


And like an alcoholic, i could easily slide.


So, Im proud of me for being in recovery from cutting....


And I'm proud of you Laz for being in recovery


and Im proud of everyone else resisting the temptation.


Love, hope and caring to yall all


-Sunny


--------------- 


From: Sunni12 (sunn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re: is it self injury
if: Newsgroups: alt.sup****t.depression Date: 1998/12/03



>you pick at scabs and watch them bleed...

>you pick at hangnails and make them bleed...


>you pick at calluses on your feet until they bleed....


>you poke blisters making them bleed....



I dont know. I wonder myself. I do the same thing. Im a self
injurer and an obsessive compulsive. I always thought it was
picking from my OCD.

-Sunny


---------------- 


From: Sunni12 (sunn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re: I wish I
was........ Newsgroups: alt.sup****t.depression Date:
1998/12/05



> sunn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Sunni12) wrote:
>> im****tant needed cared about loved wanted

>> -Sunny


>You are all those things, Sunny...& more.


>But I'll give you a few more cyberhugs, anyway...


>{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{SUNNY}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}


>Mary



Thanks. That was a really bad day when I wrote it. Much better
now.

Thanks


Sunny who should do something about her PMS


MENTAL ILLNESS IN RPD* Mental illness is a public issue in
these newsgroups. People are always running around calling
other people mentally ill and diagnosing their illnesses.


I think it's only fair that we have an accurate list of who is
and who isn't mentally ill, so that we can avoid any
misunderstandings and promote group harmony.


Updated KUCKOO!! KUCKOOO! DING! DING! DING! list as of
12/21/2003:


list of confirmed or suspected mentally ill (crazy) Regulars
Most of whom are women or homo***uals


RPD CRAZY PERSON ROLL CALL and BIOS


=============================================


NESSA NUTCASE MVP  (Most Valuable Psycho) of dog newsgroups


Successfully dethroned MaryBeth as MVP


Nessa blames all the problems in her life moston ADD ADHD Or
some other empowering acronym which encapsulates her futility
for her


Her dog bagel, a large newf mix has used her house liberally
as a toilet since February of 2002. Drives a 2003 Toyota
Matrix, owns a house in suburban MD, recently got a
raise/promotion to US goverment grade 11 (circa $50,000) and
promptly decided she couldn't afford her two dogs. With help
from non crazy regular (Paulette) and witchcraft practicing
regular Sara Sionnach, Nessa has decided to keep her dogs for
the time being. She is undergoing training from Janet "Nice
Abdominal Surgery and getting Run Over for the Family Pet."
Her results have not been dramatic.


CrAzy ReGulAr helping CraZy ReGular Leah helping Nessa


=============================


On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 8:40:08 -0400, Leah wrote



Nessa use...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


  "As far as the depression goes,  it's not related to Bagel
  at all.  I have chronic major depression and I'm just having
  a flare."

  Leah asks "Are you on any medication?"


Nessa responds


  yes for depression, mood swings and ADHD. I have been for
  over 10 years.


  --nessa


Nessa is Fat as well as crazy =============================


  "For what it's worth...


  I picked up 30 pounds when I started Dilantin. I picked up
  (just recently) another 20 on risperidol.


  I hate that I  was a size 8-10 before meds and now I am
  solidly (pun intended) a 22-24.


  Sad part is, the side effects are worth it. The positive
  effects are too much to part with."


  --nessa
============================


NESSA'S HAS A GREAT NEUROPSYCH
==============================


  Hi, I have a great neuropsych in Arlington Va. He is at the
  Rosyln Metro Station.  His name is Martin Stein 1911 N Fort
  Myer Dr. Suite 907 Arlington Va 22209 703-807-2471 email
  75120.2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Marty is wonderful.  He is really the best. He has also
  given me permission to post his infomation on this
  Newsgroup.  If you call him and see him by all means tell
  him Nessa sent you.


  --nessa
================================


ROTATE YOUR STIMULANTS


=============================


  from: Nessa (ne...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)


  Hi,


  I often have to rotate my stimulants. You can become used to
  them and sometimes need a different one for a while.  Until
  I got on my Desoxyn I rotated Ritilan and Dexedrine every 3
  months or so.


  It is true that anti-depressants or anti-anxiety pills will
  help with the stimulants so your DR is not wrong. However,
  perhaps she needs to check into the idea that a switch from
  cylert to something else might be in order.


  warm thoughts, Nessa
=============================


Kelly/ culprit


  Systems engineer at Microsoft, owner of two pitbulls,
  proving that Bill Gates does not discriminate against crazy
  people or pit bull owners.


  psychotic features, panic and more. Coming forward so that
  others like her will have the strength to do the same. Like
  Charlie Wilkes, she is one of our most entertraining
  regulars


  Here, kelly/culprit talks to Mustang Sally about her mental
  illness/crazy problems. Sally is being rude and
  condescending (as usual) and trying to make kelly/culprit
  feel bad for being crazy, aka wacked in the head


culprit standing up for herself against rude and condescending
Mustang Sally ----------------------------------------------- 


  I WON'T DENY MY PROBLEMS, MUSTANG SALLY!


  "but i stand by the fact that OCD is an illness, major
  depression with psychotic features certainly is,  panic
  disorder is too.  and the other stuff just makes it all the
  more fun.


  i don't wallow in it.  i'm just now learning to accept it,
  because ignoring it wasn't working out too well.  i need to
  do that to make changes to my life so that i can become
  healthy.  and you say you're not trying to be condescending,
  but you're doing it again.  what i read was, (my
  paraphrasing) "people who think they're mentally ill are
  wallowing in their disabilities and letting them consume
  their life"


  you come across as though you would be able to handle any of
  these illnesses, and anyone who can't is just copping out.
  well we're all different.  and i don't accept your idea that
  i would have a more productive life if i denied my problems.
   i tried it for years, and believe me, it didn't work very
  well."


  -kelly aka culprit systems engineer @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Microsoft
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MaryBeth FMVP (former most valuable psycho)


(super psycho ***** lunatic queen of the mentally ****ed in
the head)


Has contributed greatly to the annual profit results at
several large pharmaceutical corps has taken virtually every
mentally ill (crazy) drug treatment in the book, and then
some: prozac, zoloft, amitryptiline, Buspar, Xanax, effexor,
paxil, HRT, wellbutrin, tranquilizers, clomid,


MaryBeth has suffered from or been:


  TIDAL WAVES OF PMS


  suicidal, agoraphobic, tidal waves of PMS, mood swings,
  turned into a hermit, bloated, just real angry, hubby afraid
  of her, high blood pressure, divorced, "raving *****"
  "zoloft zombie" for four years, "living through layers and
  layers of gauze," chain smoker, buzzing, weight gain,
  fatigue, terrible dry mouth, dull headaches, fuzzy brain,
  lack of concentration..etc. severe depression, severe
  insomnia, Panic ALL the time, crying, not sleeping, you name
  it...etc...


MaryBeth (on being seriously f'd in the head aka mentally ill)
aka cuckoo! kuckoo! ding! ding! ding! aka a superpsychotic
***** from hell


  I RAN OVER EVERYONE IN MY PATH


  "I know for a fact I went thru years of being overly
  sensitive, being a b*tch, being self centered, being self
  pitying, you name it, I was a wreck and I ran over everyone
  in my path."


  "<G> I do know the power of meds, especially on a long term
  basis, and it's not pretty. You become another person, if
  it's not the correct med for you.


            --All the best,
              MaryBeth


  DON'T TAKE ULTRAM AND ZOLOFT TOGETHER


  "Yup Diane, I am taking Zoloft, and my Rheumatologist told
  me that taking Ultram with it can cause seizures."


  "I have all the symptoms.I am suicidal at times (cyclical)
  have severe insomnia, 'crawly' skin etc. I have an appt to
  see my doc next Friday to test for menopause."


            --MaryBeth


  ME NOT SO *****


  "I noticed that antidepressants cut libido into the dead
  zone and I had no real emotions, like not laughing at funny
  stuff, couldn't cry either.....except about my suicidal
  thoughts (but at the time I thought there was no other way
  out)."


            --MaryBeth


  NEW TO GROUP


  "Hi, new to group, just starting Clomid today. I talked with
  RE and pharmacist re: zoloft (50 mg daily) and ineraction
  with Clomid. They re****ted none. Not sure about the prozac
  tho. Gonna poat a new message to intorduce myself :)"


           --MaryBeth <still feeling
             like herself> <G>


  WASTED 10 YEARS


  "I wasted about 10 years of my life, and lost many many
  treasured ppl and things. Please don't do the same.
  (((((((SCOUT))))))))))


           --MaryBeth


  WAS HORRIBLE


  "Slowly but surely my depression got worse and worse. They
  put me on meds for it, and all along kept telling me to wait
  on the TKR, as 'it really wasn't that bad.....yet". HA!" The
  depression got so bad, and lots of other things happened and
  my ex and I would up divorced four years after our move. It
  was horrible. The hardest thing I have eve gone thru"


           --MaryBeth


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Theresa Willis


  (paxil, depression, robot displacement) Theresa is a gang
  banger who comes out of cutesy robot mode when it's time to
  gang attack people with her pal shelly Victim is usually
  Leah, but may be a random person.


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shelly couvrette


  Severe OCD, depression, prescribed Paxil for mental illness,
  but claims she does not take it, resulting in an obsessive
  basket case online persona. Posts more than any other female
  in all dog newsgroups


   (familial mental illness, possibly related to family bed)
   obsessively starves her dogs according to friends, family,
   strangers and 3 different vets, but not herself (see
   below). Still thinks of herself as a five year old
   ballerina despite the fact that she is a fat adult in her
   mid thirties.


  PAGE ALL THE WAY DOWN FOR BONUS COVERAGE


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lynn kosmakos


     RPD* Enemy of Dogs #1


(Lithium, Zoloft, bipolar, manic, depression) will "put down a
biter as fast as anyone" yet claims to be a saintly dog
rescuer. Murders dogs because of insurance rates Her brother
was attacked by a Golden Retriever when she was young. For
this reason, she murders easily trainable dogs. Condemns dogs
to death who are easily trainable with her "evaluations." Is
nice to people in person, but her true dog hating nature comes
out on newsgroups with extreme clarity.


Advocates shooting dogs on sight, when they chase deer. Sees
no other option. Her own dog Java had to be shocked with a
shock collar to keep him from chasing deer.


has been on lithium for approximately 20 years. Zoloft for an
undetermined number of years


   1200mg LITHIUM 50mg ZOLOFT


  "I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder
   (manic-depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50 mg of
   Zoloft every day.  I, also, care about dogs and use this
   forum to learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
   information I have learned.  But if I were ever to post
   such sh*t, I would hope that every other reader of this
   group would be rightfully outraged."


  WE EARN THE RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE


  "Community is an evolutionary thing that we earn
   the right to participate in by observing the easily
   understood rules and contributing to in constructive ways."


     Lynn K.


   I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM


  "I particularly remember
   a comment she made about scarey side effects of Lithium.
   Hardly.  After 17 years on it, I think I'm qualified to say
   that the very low risk of any side effect is far less
   frightening than the very real dangers of life without it."


     Lynn K.


From: Chris Kosmakos (chris...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re: Prozac
- Good medication or no?


   I TAKE A SIMILAR DRUG MYSELF


   "Yes, for very specific behaviorial problems. I would have
   to trust my vet and behaviorist a lot, and be very sure
   that I had exhausted every other option before I used
   Prozac to deal with a dog problem - and I take a similar
   drug, Zoloft, myself."


    Lynn K.


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Leah


  Effexor for chronic depression, in denial about being
  mentally ill. Has taken several other mentally ill
  medications before settling on effexor for her chronic
  mental problems. Leah is improving as a dog trainer and
  wants to open her own training/boarding kennel soon and
  write a book.


  This drives her fellow mentally ill regulars nuts (read
  shelly Lynn K.), especially if Leah succeeds while other
  loonies continue to sit on their fat behinds


  Leah is a relatively stable crazy person but she just might
  be the agent that drives others to jump off of a cliff


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Tara Green


Tara Green is a dog trainer of sorts in New York City left
rpd* claiming that she could not afford internet access and/or
a computer, but her story is of value nonetheless


  was on antidepressants for a few years prior to her
  marriage. During her marriage, she learned a lot: "With the
  therapist I saw during my marriage I learned that some
  situational depressions are masked as chemical simply
  because of our too human ability to prolong the impact of
  the causal situations indefinitely"


  Sounds like more denial, see leah


  Tara is also a drunk who has also had problems with other
  substances


  TARA on being a drunk/substance abuser:


  "Tara (who had some problems with quite a
   few substances as well, but who thinks they are separate
   issues.....so which camp does that put me in???)"


  "Believe it or not, some people don't have
   a problem with drugs even though they are alcoholics. I'm
   not one of those people, but they do exist."


   aka, tara has problems with both


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Kevin Michael Vail


  various mental illness drugs, started with zoloft, didn't
  like that, then went to antidepressant, stopped after
  sufficent side effects, now on SSRI and in therapy Kevin is
  a homo***ual but there is no evidence that this is the cause
  of him being crazy


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Furpaw


      (SSRI, cognitive therapy)
       otherwise, a fairly boring and nondescript crazy person


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Chris Jung


          (Prozac and Welbutrin,
           cognitive therapy)


          another very boring nutcase


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Charlie Wilkes


  drugged out, crazy, ****ed up all his life, Christ the ****
  he's been through including psych wards and electroshock
  treatments but now pulling down major cash as a business
  consultant. Triumphing over adversity, with a damn good life
  and a well trained dog (very much unlike Leah) One of our
  most lucid regulars, despite (or maybe because of?) a
  penchant for phat philly blunts.


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Karen DuChateaux aka Karibear


  suffered from clinical depression for years until some drug
  or something brought her out of it. Some of her best friends
  "are certifiable" and have various degrees of psychoses.
  Familial mental disability. Refuses to say whether or not
  she is currently using drug or cognitive therapy for mental
  illness.


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Mike "DumbOxDumb" Dufort


  threatened non violent dog expert Jerry Howe with Mike's
  fully armed US Army Platoon. Threatened to bring his platoon
  to Jerry's HOWSE. also OCD (obsessed with Jerry's posts)


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Jim "Brain ****vers" Sabatke


  Jim is currently on Effexor which he takes because of his
  depression/mental problems. Like many of our mental cases,
  Jim has had trouble finding the right med(s) to keep him
  from going kuckoo!! kuckoooo!!! or getting the "brain
  ****vers"


    From: Jim Sabatke (jsaba...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re:
    anyone using Effexor? alt.sup****t.depression.medication
    Date: 2002-11-29 20:25:16 PST


    EFFEXOR "I'm on 375 mg/day and it has worked wonders for
    me. The only down side is that my blood pressure has
    elevated somewhat; oh and if I miss a dose by a couple of
    hours the "brain ****vers" can be really bad.


    Good luck!


     Jim


   "I switched from Paxil to Effexor about 5 months ago.  I
   tapered off of the Paxil and tapered onto the Effexor at
   the same time."


     Jim


   "After several years on Effexor IR, my pdoc tried switching
   me to XR.  I experienced fairly severe Effexor withdrawel
   until I went back to the IR."


     Jim


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<YOUR NAME GOES HERE>
(please proudly add your name and the drugs/disorders specific
to you, if you are also mentally ill). If we all come forward,
we can help each other with our problems. Remember, mental
illness is nothing to be ashamed of. It's not your fault if
you have a defective brain which may cause you to act like an
extreme hypocrite and/or idiot and/or robot without your being
aware of it).


Also, please notify us if you are *not* mentally ill, and have
been added to this by mistake, so we can make our corrections
and remove you from the crazy person list.


===========================================


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A SPECIAL BONUS ON shelly the librarian at Indiana U.


========================================================
SHELLY IS THE ONLY ONE WHO DOESN'T THINK HATTIE IS STARVING


   EMACIATED, VET WAS SURPRISED


  "when i got harriet she was emaciated, so
   i asked my vet for advice on slowly adding weight to her.
   six months later i took harriet in for her spring check-up
   and my vet was surprised that at how thin she still was."
                  --shelly couvrette


   STILL VET SHOPPING


   "<raises hand> i've been told by three different vets that
   harriet (53lbs) is *way* too skinny.  we're still
   vet-shopping, BTW."


             --shelly couvrette


   THE OL' "I'M STARVING" ROUTINE


  "if you really can't resist it when your dog pulls
   the "i'm starving!" routine <G>, you can give him some
   frozen green beans or a small amount of plain pureed
   pumpkin.  i would also suggest putting the food out of his
   sight.  i keep my food--still inside the bags, which are
   tightly rolled down--inside trash cans in the closed
   laundry room.  that keeps it fresh and keeps it out of my
   dogs' sight."


             --shelly couvrette


   POSITIVELY STARVED


  "heh.  i get the opposite response.  people think
   that poor little harriet is positively starved to death.
   i've actually had people stop me in the pet supply shop and
   tell me that i need to fatten her up!"


             --shelly couvrette


   WHO WANTS TO BE TOLD YOU ARE HURTING YOUR WIDDLE PRECIOUS?


  "i think that may be part of the problem.  who
   wants to go to a vet who tells you you're hurting your
   .widdle precious?  i think the other part is that some vets
   really don't *realize* that what they consider proper
   weight is fat.  after having been told by a couple of vets
   that my dogs are too thin, i've got a dim view of vets on
   that topic."


             --shelly couvrette


   JUST A BITE WON'T HURT
                   --shelly's mom


  FEED HER AND I'LL RIP YOUR ARM OFF, *****
                   --shelly


  "my mom is kinda that way, but not *as* bad.
   she thinks that harriet is awfully skinny, so feeding her
   table snax is okay.  she tells me that just a bite won't
   hurt."


             --shelly couvrette


NOBODY IS STARVING FAT PI.G SHELLY


NOBODY WILL STOP SHELLY ON THE STREET AND TELL HER SHE IS
STARVING HERSELF shelly's fat face
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette/Wshelly2.jpg
=======================================================


There are a lot of big fat women on these groups who starve
their dogs out of vanity, but shelly is a special case.


shelly is moor.e than a little bit beyond the pale


Shelly has OCD, and maybe she's just a little obsessive about
measuring out extra tiny and discrete ****tions with a tiny
measuring cup, or counting out pieces of green bean or pumpkin
that she gives her dogs when they give her the "I'm Starving"
routine. When grandma tried to give Hattie a snack, shelly
probably went ape****, because it was in violation of her
Obsessive need to oversee every tiny calorie that goes into
her widdle precious' mouth.


shelly's a special case, a special kind of dog abuser


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