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Re: Veterinary Pet Insurance For Exotic Animals

by NaturalLawEnforcement@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jun 8, 2008 at 09:02 AM

HOWEDY marquis de "READ KOEHLER FOR CONTENT" shaw,
you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin dog abusin punk thug
coward active acute chronic life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
anonymHOWES MENTAL CASE and dismal failure as a electronics
engineer *** illegal doggy day care operator,

From: Mark Shaw <ms...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:38:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: usenet anonymity

Some people freak out over pseudonyms.  I don't know why.

I use a fake name on another newsgroup.  Why?  Without getting
into too many details, it's to avoid possible hard feelings should
what I post there be revealed to certain friends or coworkers in
real life.

But the name I'm known by there is real, and it's legitimately mine
in a sense - it's the name of the imaginary friend I had when I was
three or four years old.  And I don't change it around; nor is it
intended to defraud or otherwise harm anybody.

So: meh.
--
Mark Shaw (And Baron)

                        -----------------------

             BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

"Mark Shaw" <mshaw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:g2go3g
$ga2$2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Melinda Shore <shore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> In article
<507eeb54-51cd-437c-a46b-6531ce572115@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>  <mlolowang0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >Before purchasing an exotic animals [sic] insurance policy,
>
>> There is just no keeping up with these parasites.

INDEED?

> This one took forEVER to get to the link, too.

Perhaps it was over ridden by all your incessant weekly warnings
posts?

>> Has anybody here actually ever bought anything from a blogspot ad?

> Pfaugh!

Perhaps you should refrain from posting to my forums, unless
of curse, it's your regular weekly warnings not to believe me,
eh, marquis?:

From: ms...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 20 Sep 2002 05:19:00 -0400
Subject: How to set up and use a killfile (weekly posting)

Most, though not all, newsreaders enable you to automatically
mark certain posts or threads as read. This is usually referred
to as a killfile or a filter. Instructions on how to create a
killfile
for some of the more common newsreaders are below. If yours
 isn't listed, try looking in your browser under "help."

Also, here's another source for this type of information:


    http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile

Disclaimer: These instructions have been compiled from a variety
of sources. I only use rn myself so if the instructions below can't
help you, I can't either. Conversely, if you have any additions or
corrections to this list, please feel free to email me at
dian...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I will add them to this file next time it's
reposted.

Many, many thanks to everyone who's contributed!--Dianne Schoenberg
--------------------------------------------------------------------

AGENT
   Pull down the 'Window' on the Menu. Go to Usenet Filters and click
on
   that.

   The first icon on the toolbox should be to 'Add Kill Filter'.
Click
   on that.

   The edit window will come up. In the area 'Filter Expression',
write
   'Jerry Howe'. And then under 'Kill Action', mark whatever little
   button you want.

                              <snip>

NETSCAPE COMMUNICATOR
   Under the Edit Menu, choose the Message Filters... command.
   In the resulting dialog box, click the New button to define a new
   filter. Give the filter a name, like "Filter Jerry."

   Set the criteria for the filter. For example, "sender is Jerry
Howe"
   or "subject contains ninnyboy".

   Select what to do with filtered messages (delete, ignore, etc...)
   Click OK. You may have to disconnect and reconnect for it to take
   effect.

   [N.B. As far as I can tell, there is no way to apply a Message
   Filter to a newsgroup if you're using a Unix or Linux version
   of Communicator.  This currently (Communicator v. 4.61) seems
   to work *only* for email on those platforms.  -mshaw]

OUTLOOK EXPRESS 5.0
   Go to the toolbar at the top of any post written by the person you
   wish to banish from your computer. Click on "Message"; then, on
the
   drop-down menu, click on "Block Sender".

   To filter out certain messages rather than blocking a sender
entirely
   you can create message 'rules.' Say you want to filter out all
messages
   containing 'ninnyboy' in the subject line. Go to Message, Create
Rule
   from Message. Select the condition for each message rule you want
to
   create and apply.

RN & TRN
   To create a global killfile in either of these newsreaders, create
a
   file in your News directory called KILL (this must be in all
capital
   letters). Use any text editor to enter the following line into it:
          /jh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   This killfile will junk any posts from jh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 to any
   newsgroup you read.

TIN
   Read a message from the person you want to killfile or with the
subject
   heading you want to killfile. While that's on the screen, hit ctrl
and
   k at the same time (^k).

   A questionaire type screen appears.  Return is like saying yes.
Space
   will toggle from the "subject header" to the "sent from" line.  In
   other words, you can choose to kill anything from a particular
person
   or to kill anything with a particular word in the subject
heading.

   I recommend killfiling people instead of killfiling words because
I
   might want to kill a subject about "lying dirt bags"

           ***(like marquis and malinda)***

   today but want to read something about a dog "lying in dirt"
  tomorrow.  The people stay more constant than the subject lines.

                     --------------------

        BOTH THESE GUYS GOT DEAD DOGS
        CAUSE THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THEIR
        Puppy Wizard TILL IT WAS TOO LATE:

From: misty (Momi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Jerry, why non-physical praise?
Date: 2002-01-23 07:46:16 PST

Beth wrote:
> So, jerry's techniques didnt' work for Peach?

Never had a chance to try them on her... I was still
using the e-fence and chains to keep her in the yard.

The suggestions I received here to keep Peach home
were: build a fence... wasn't going to happen.. we plan
on putting a modular home here within the next few years...
put more fence at the top of the pen I used so both dogs
 could play bitey face w/o tangling,  and similar suggestions.

Jerry was the only one to mention border training... but he
was kook supreme ;-P  So I ignored him... no killfiles with
webtv.. at that time Jerry had his own troll, somewhat like
Candace, so the group was not very conducive to learning
anything.  At one point I even b*tched about Jerry.

By the time I tried out Jerry's manual Peach had
already ran away.

Not very good at the google groups search but you'll find my
first post at "runaway dog message 30"  within that thread is
mention of the dogs taking off and being gone for 2 days.  I
stopped posting for a bit... my middle boy was devastated that
his dog was gone... Zelda came home but not her mom.

The next few posts from me were ones about/to Jerry.

Then Jerry made the WETM accessible for webbes,  I put it in
my e-mail ( no storage otherwise on webby unless you put stuff
on a webpage) and read it, read it and read it.

Once I understood what the concept was, I implemented it on
Zelda.  It worked and I now have a great housedog!

I only regret that my own distrust of Jerry caused me to lose
another wonderful dog. Peach was an absolute gem with little
kids.  I and my boys still miss her.  Sometimes I still look
to see if she came home when we get back from trips.  Maybe
Peach would still have ran away... I don't know and never
will....

~misty

                    -------------------

        "misty" <Momi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
         wrote in message
news:16990-3CAB1F8C-1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
            I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive.
            I do know she's not here with us. I really can't
            blame anyone here for her loss. I'm the one
            who ignored your advice.

            I did it because of how you write/wrote.
            I was unwilling to accept the idea
            that my using a shock collar could have
            any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay
            home.

           Up until I started using it my main concern
           had been keeping my dogs in their own yard.

           Once I started using the e-fence...well,
           then my concern became how to keep
           them from running off for days on end.

           I lost valuable training time becoming
           embroiled in the anti-shock debate and
           the "Jerry sux" tirades.

           I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in
           the world now <g> A Wits End> Trained dog,
           one who is completely housetrained,
           doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard,
           and doesn't bark all the time.

           IOW a great companion and friend.

           Thanks Jerry!

        "misty" <Momi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
        news:6946-3B6337A1-329@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
            We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this
            Spring. Two dogs, two collars We now have
            one dog and no collars.

            Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not
            want to come back in the yard and would run for days.

            The last time, Peach didn't come back home.

            I used the Wit's End Training Manual to
            learn how to train my dog. She is now
            border trained. A few minutes each day
            reinforces her desire to stay in the yard.

            She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop
            her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes
            when we walk around the yard.

            I can not say loud or long enough how
            much I hate the e-fence and its collars.

            If you can't get a regular fence then you need to
            train your dog. I will never rely on an electronic
            collar to keep my dog in our yard again.

            The price was too high:-(
            ~misty

                        ---------------------

        <"Terri"@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> dogsnuts wrote:

           > Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
           > He has millions of people aleady reading his
           > posts and watching him extract his soggy  foot
           > out of his mouth! Out of these MILLIONS, I've
           > only seen 2 naive childs come forward and
           > actually believe in his training manual.

        Robert Crim writes:

        I assume that I and my wife are those two naive
        childs since I freely admit to having read and, I
        hope, understood enough of the manual and it's
        counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of
        Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.

        This naive child would like to say thank you to both
        Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant
        barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of
        supposedly adult dog lovers.

        The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
        the nagging idea that if people like them had been
        posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to
        hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our
        arms while he  was given the needle and having to
        hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.

        To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a
        dog into good behavior.  Naive is believing that
        people that hide behind fake names are more
        honest than people that use their real names.

        Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
        and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
        j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have
        studied and lived by their craft for decades.

        "Stupid" is believing that people do not see
        kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really
        stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and
        Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because
        you people act like fools.

        Why do you act like fools?  I really have no idea,
        and I don't really care.

           > And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward
           > and actually admit to buying and having success
           > with his little black box.

        I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day
        and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use
        and testing. You would never believe the results, so
        you'll never know.

           > Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man
           > coming by Jerry's posts deserves to get what
           > is sure to be coming to him! LOL!

        I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and
        Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get
        what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says,
        "poor Rollei.".......right.

           >Terri

        Yes it was, and that is sad.

        Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
        listen to the box first?)

                   ===============

From: Momi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (misty)
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:44:25 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Anyone tried the Wits End Training manual?

 I used the Wit's Ends Training manual to teach myself how
to interact with Zelda.  The first read through made no
sense to me...the second time through, things clicked and
the little lightbulb glowed.

I trained Zelda to stay in the yard, not chase cats, to come,
sit ,down, stop chewing toys and to be quiet when she barks
at things she hears outside.

I don't care if 99% of the manual came from 99 other trainers...
I needed the info, it was offered free of charge and any questions
can be asked of Jerry.

One thing about his method, although you can "spot" train
with it, it works best by a pyramid approach.IOW start
at the beginning and go through the exercises in the order
he has them wrote.

The part about "non-physical praise" confused me until I
tried a little experiment.  I petted Zelda and told her
what a good girl she was...she enjoyed it, tail wagging.

I then put my hand away from her (behind my back) and
praised her...she got very wiggly, ****ged me with her nose,
pawed at me and wanted more praise.  Not very scientific,
I know, but it was interesting to me how excited she got.

I find that I'm starting to use Jerry's method to "train"
my kids as well:-)

~misty

My "daughter" http://community-2.webtv.net/Momisty/ZeldaAnneArensdorf/

My sons http://community-2.webtv.net/Momisty/Arensdorf14Acre/

From: Charlie Wilkes <charlie_wil...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:13:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Anyone tried the Wits End Training manual?
On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:44:25 -0500 (CDT),

Momi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (misty) wrote:
> I find that I'm starting to use Jerry's method to "train" my kids as
> well:-) ~misty
> My "daughter":
> http://community-2.webtv.net/Momisty/ZeldaAnneArensdorf/
> My sons: http://community-2.webtv.net/Momisty/Arensdorf14Acre/

Hi Misty!

I had just about exactly the same experience with Jerry's manual.

I had visited quite a few dog-training web sites, and, while they
didn't recommend anything too harsh, they all emphasized that
 I must "assert my dominance" over the pup.

Anytime I tried doing that (just once or twice) it produced a
distinctly negative result... The pup got scared and ran away.

When I took the approach of simply making myself into the most
im****tant and desirable thing in her world, she responded incredibly
well.  Now I can even break off a rabbit chase instantly (which I do
NOT want to allow, as I live in a rural area with chickens and
livestock) just by calling her once in a calm, affectionate voice.

Your kids and your dog are adorable, BTW!

You can see my pup at
http://www.geocities.com/viscouspuppy
Check the "more pictures" link -- like your dog, Holly
is more than happy to do an "alpha rollover" when I use
the gentle, non-confrontational approach Jerry recommends.

Charlie

                  ================

From: Mark Shaw (ms...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Fido-Shock
Date: 2002-04-10

In article <gWLs8.203228$af7.101030@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,

"Coleman Brumley" <clbrum...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Has anyone had experience with this product (Fido-Shock).
>> If so, what model number, voltage, etc.?

> "If you're talking about the pet-grade hotwire system,
> I have one. It's to keep boarded dogs out of my flowers."

Seems our pal marquis de "read koehler for content" shaw runs
an unlicensed illegal "cottage industry," outta his HOWES, a
B+B for dogs.

>> I have a 1.5 year St Bernard who is scaling (not clearing -
>> - more like falling over) our 4 foot fence to visit with
>> owners walking their dogs.

My methods cure fence jumping and escape behavior in a couple
minutes without shocking and choking and crating and beating
and shooting "a good slingshot or a few BB's" as instructed
in our koehler book that we should read for content. ed w of
petloss dot CON recommends we read koehler, sez he could be
the world's best trainer.

>> I thought of raising the fence a foot or so,

Because there's no way to train a dog not to jump a barrier.

>> but don't think that'll solve the problem.

Course not. Neither will hurting him, that'll
make IT want to escape even MOORE.

>> I've tried watching her outside, and give a stern "NO"
>> when she props on the fence for a peek over it.  No avail.

Course not. That'll make him try harder soon  as you're not lookin.

>> I've heard this product works after just a couple of tries.

> I take it you're considering running the wire across the top of
> the fence?  I don't think I'd recommend that, although it may be
> worth a try."

Course. Might as well try to HURT the dog to force it not to
want to run away. Dogs run away from their HOWESES for the
same reason kids do... they're usually abused and neglected,
even despite the daily jerk and choke and shock training.

> Watch closely -- the one case where I saw a hotwire used
> in this fa****on caused the dog undue stress and frustration,

That was on one of your illegal customer's dogs who didn't know
you was fixin to BURN their Dane while you was giving him some
loving care. Those stupid bastards trusted you not to HURT their
dog...and you done your best, but just couldn't bear NOT to HURT.

> and he tried even harder to get over the fence.

Of course, marquis. That's what got Peach DEAD.

> So be prepared to take it down right away.

So he don't get caught, marquis? He's not shocking an illegal
boarding customer's dog like you were... marquis de "READ
KOEHLER FOR CONTENT" shaw <{}: ~ ( >

> That was a Dane, though.

Yeah. A cash customer's dog. You couldn't afford to return IT
with a case of nervous aggression...and you couldn't get caught
with a hotwire just in case the dog squeals on you by his new
nervous responses.

> With a Saint things might be different.

Yeah. Did you see CUJO?
--
Mark Shaw (and Maggie) anti-spam: change 'bang' to 'not'

                       --------------------

"Tricia9999" <tricia9...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:20021117101433.10365.00000067@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  how effective are these electronic fences in
>  keeping a dog on a property????

 Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
 too scared to go out in the yard anymore.

 Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
 because the dog got caught right in the path of
 the shock and will now not go near his person,
 won't go outside.

 Just hides under a desk in the house.

               ------------------------------------

 "micha el" spam_yurs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 in message
 news:yIydnZpPsIzg6l_d4p2dnA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what
 it felt like to me when I got shocked by
 Hope's collar.

 It felt like a bomb going off in my
 hand and forearm.

                  --------------------------

       THAT'S HOWE COME Misty's DEAD DOG
                Peaches got DEAD on us <{}: ~ ( >

From: ms...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Mark Shaw)
Date: 27 Aug 2001 23:00:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Anyone tried the Wits End Training manual?
In article <3532-3B895199...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,

Momi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (misty) wrote:
> I needed the info, it was offered free of charge
> and any questions can be asked of Jerry.

This is not true, unless you're willing to kiss his, uh, ring.
If you're not, he considers you his enemy -- no matter how
 you really feel about him -- and will just abuse you.

Of course, his sheep have always ignored
this and will probably continue to do so.
--
Mark Shaw (and Maggie)anti-spam: change 'bang' to 'not'

                       ------------------

            BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

      YOU'RE FINISHED HERE, marquis <{}: ~ ( >
 




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