HOWEDY John,
"John" <jh-lewis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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The actual INSTRUCTION begins on the third page "*777*
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There you will find ALL the FREE information you need
to pupperly handle raise and train your pets and family.
Just follow the instructions PRECISELY and ASK me if
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> Sorry, this is a long post...lots of information to relay...
LikeWIZE <{}'; ~ ) >
> Our 3 GSD dogs are having a bad diarrhea problem and we’re
> hoping someone here can help figure out what’s going on. Vets cant.
So, "HOWETA the pot and INTO the FIRE". You AIN'T gonna
get nodoGdameneD advice from these pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal murderin FRAUDS you're asking for heelp.
> It’s been happening (off and on) for about 3 months and we feel so sorry
> for them - their stools are normal – then diarrhea – then normal –
> then diarrhea, etc., etc., changing almost once a week or so.
That's curiHOWES. That suggests the problem AIN'T physical.
> Dogs just don't get diarrhea once a week (had dogs for 37 years)
> without something being wrong - let alone THREE dogs.
EXXXACTLY <{}: ~ ( >
> There have been no diet changes here in over a year as we’ve
consistently
> fed Iams (based on the dogs weight)
ALL commercial dog food is GARBAGE:
Here's the movie. PUKE WARNING:
http://www.iamscruelty.com/iams-video.html
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/prefs.asp?chgpref=1&video=iams
And here's the never ending story:
Let's Fight for Fifi
Excerpts From Correspondence
http://www.peta.org/feat/iams/fifi.html
> and provided filtered water and never had a problem before.
Filtered water is GOOD. Distilled water AIN'T. You'll find
some inexpensive nutritiHOWES diets and all natural sources
to buy quality meats that you can cook up at home, on my website.
> We only give an occasional treat or snack during training, which doesn’t
> coincide with the diarrhea periods.
There was a story here a long while back abHOWET a dog who
had incidents of diareah from simply DRIVING PAST her training
area. That's more than likely the CAUSE of your dog's intestinal
DIS-STRESS <{}: ~ ( >
HOWEver, to be SHORE, you'll want to run the SNAP test:
SNAP® Giardia Test.
Giardia Snap Test
Submission Feces, ½ teaspoon
Coolant Cold pack
Lab ID KDL
Price $8
Giardia is very prevalent in feline and canine diarrhea cases, but
infection is often missed with fecal floats alone. That’s why we
developed the SNAP Giardia Test to be used side-by-side with
fecal floats.
The reliable, cost-effective SNAP Giardia Test dramatically
improves the results of your workups on symptomatic GI
patients. It catches those missed Giardia-positive animals up to
three times as often as traditional methods.1
The new CAPC recommendations urge testing using a combination of:
a.. Fecal flotation with centrifugation
CAPC recommends that feces be routinely screened by a
centrifugal flotation method because it is consistently more
sensitive than simple flotation.
b.. Direct smear
Direct smears can be very useful for demonstrating motile
organisms. Please note: smears have limited sensitivity
because of the small amount of feces examined.
c.. For symptomatic patients, add a sensitive, specific Giardia
ELISA Giardiasis is commonly misdiagnosed or underdiagnosed
due to intermittent shedding and difficulty identifying cysts and
trophozoites.
In symptomatic patients, use all three methods
to attain the best diagnostic accuracy.
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If your dogs test negative for Giardia using the SNAP test then
I would have to believe it's your TRAINING METHODS that
are makin your dogs SICK, as is USUAL here abHOWETS.
> When this all started we began taking stool samples up to our
> regular vet, but he was unable to find any problems to account
> for the problem (parasites, worms, excessive hair, etc.). Since
> the problem persisted, we started taking samples for EACH dog up to TWO
> different vets every week or so. STILL no one
> can find a problem.
It's more difficult to FIND a problem if the stool is not well formed.
> Meanwhile our dogs continue to alternate between
> regular stools and diarrhea.
Giardia is WON of those ubiquitHOWES simbiotic DIS-EASES
that dogs and humans often live with having NO symptoms until
they are STRESSED through bad nutrition or emotional stress.
> We’ve even had blood work done on all 3 dogs with no results.
Well then, you should look at your handling and training. MOST
of your newfHOWEND fellHOWE dog lovers dogs are DEAD an
DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE,
a.k.a. The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <{}: ~ ( >
> Our 2 vets can offer no suggestions as to how all three dogs are
> having the same problem during the same time period without SOMETHING
> showing up in blood work, stools, or even diet changes.
Well then, look at HOWE you're handling and training them.
You mentioned you give your dogs "training treats". THAT in
and of itself can CAUSE EXXXTREME STRESS:
"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
(Azrin et al, 1966)."
"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.
> They’re 'reluctant' to (wont) offer medications as they don’t know the
> cause of the problem.
THAT'S a WIZE idea, John. sharon too, Mrs. Veterinary
MALPRACTICIONER and veterinary office manager
suggests you BUY and ADMINISTER TOXIC medication
from a veterinary malpracticioner like her husband. Oh, bye
the bye, John, sharon's own dogs GOT THE SAME PROBLEM.
> They suggested Imodium D, pumpkin, rice, etc. the standard
> remedies - all of which we do, and it helps a bit, but doesn't
> cure the problem for good...
Well then, SUMPTHIN NON PHYSICAL is CAUSING the problem.
> 2 weeks ago we changed their food over to Nutro Max and put them on
> standard tap water. just to see if things would change -
> - It made no difference
Of curse not.
> (although they like the Nutro better cause it's 'new').
Duh-Oh~!
> This is terrible for the dogs.
Of curse <{}: ~ ( >
> Has anyone run into something like this before?
Yeah. MOST of your newfHOWEND fellHOWE dog lover
pals GOT THE SAME PROBLEM, probably for the same
reason: STRESS from MISHANDLING.
> Any ideas?
Of curse. STOP doin the "trainin" you've been doin and
STUDY your own FREE COPY of The Sincerely Incredibly
Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing, Majestic Grand Master
Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Goat, Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES,
And Horsey Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End
Training Method Manual:
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard/777witsendmanual.htm
> I’m familiar with most home remedies for doggy diarrhea, but
> they simply (tem****ally) alleviate the problem (which is a good
> thing by itself), but I’d really like to find and cure the source of the
> problem, so it stops for good.
Of curse. MOST of your newfHOWEND fellHOWE dog lover's
dogs GOT THE SAME PROBLEM, John:
FIGGER IT HOWET~!:
Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH,
That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And
Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving Care Is At The
Root Of The Scientific Management Of Doggies.
"All animals learn best through play," Lorenz.
B.F. Skinner: Re-evaluation of Punishment:
Punishment, unfortunately traditionally overused,
actually has been proven not effective at long-
term behavioral change, and creatures will find
other ways of getting what it wants. In "Freedom
and the control of men" American Scholar, Winter
1955-56, 25, 47-65. 1956 he states:
If we no longer resort to torture in what we call
the civilized world, we nevertheless still make
extensive use of punitive techniques in both
domestic and foreign relations. And apparently for
good reasons. Nature if not God has created man
in such a way that he can be controlled punitively.
People quickly become skillful punishers (if not,
thereby, skillful controllers), whereas alternative
positive measures are not easily learned.
The need for punishment seems to have the sup****t
of history, and alternative practices threaten the
cherished values of freedom and dignity.
Fear involved with punishment causes frustration:
with typical results loathing, hostility and apathy.
Skinner's teaching on the superiority of posittive
reinforcement's benefits for keeping desired behavior
have proved very valuable.
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A. S. Neill, The Famous Founder of The Summerhill
School, Used To Cure Delinquent Children Way Back
In The 1950's By Paying Them For Every Time They
Wet The Bed Or Broke A Pane Of Glass And Their
Behaviour Would Stop, - As If By MAGICK!
The Embry Study:
"While some may find it strange that reprimands
might increase the chances of a child going into
the street, the literature on the experimental analysis
of behavior is replete with examples of how "attention
to inappropriate behavior" increases the chances of
more inappropriate behavior.
Thus, suggestions to parents that they talk to or reason
with their children about da****ng into the street will
likely to have the opposite impact.
Reprimands do not punish unsafe behavior; they reward it."
Source:
"Reducing the Risk of Pedestrian Accidents to
Preschoolers by Parent Training and Symbolic
Modeling for Children: An Experimental Analysis
in the Natural Environment. Research Re****t
Number 2 of the Safe-Playing Project."
"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) re****t a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are re****ted to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS
were moved to a delayed contingency the behavior and
learning immediately deteriorated.
Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement
model" proposed by Skinner (1963) are no more well
established in research than the various dynamic
therapists."
Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation of
programmed systems for learning; 2) reinforcement;
3) cognitive dissonance; and 4) motivation, MOST
SURELY DEMOLISH the claims of operant programers."
"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966).
Some clinics have re****ted ELIMINATION of the
need for child THERAPY through changing the
clinical emphasis from clinical to parental
HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965).
A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents tem****arily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."
> When your vets can't help, what do you do...?
You'll find a complete veterinary heelth and nutrition guide on my
website.
> Open to suggestions.
The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing,
Majestic Grand Master Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Goat,
Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES, And Horsey Wizard DON'T
GIVE "tips" an "suggestions"; HE TEACHES people ALL
OVER the WHOWEL WILD WORLD HOWE to pupperly
handle, raise, an train ALL critters NEARLY INSTANTLY,
simply by DOIN EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY
OPPOSITE of HOWE the professional lyin dog abusin SCAM
ARTISTS recommend.
> Thanks.
You're welcome <{}; ~ ) >
> john _ stlmo at yahoo dot com -- the _ is underscore
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice
Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.
I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.
I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:
whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness / submissive urination
aggression.
The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).
You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.
As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine you may find my resume
in Who's Who in Science and Technology I have been listed
in Who's Who in the S & SE USA since 1982, and in the big
books, Who's Who in the USA, WW in the World, WW in
Medicine etc, and WW in Science and Technology, since that date.
These are the Marquis Publications, the "real" WW, and
you can't get yourself into them.
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Why Do You Reward The Dog For Being Bad?
Was:
Punish Dogs Children SP-HOWESESWith PRAISE,
Unconditional LOVE, TRUST, And RESPECT
<{) ; - ) >
Always praise the dog to show him that you affectionally
sup****t or love him. Praising the dog has nothing to do
with what he has just done, it has to do with your
relation****p with him.
"Good dog" means "I love you, dog".
If the dog is anxious, then you make certain that he
knows that he is in a safe and trusting environment.
You praise and admire him.
Correction is the opposite signal, you are my enemy,
and this results, quite naturally, in the dog behaving
aggresively - why not, you've declared that you are his
enemy.
Why does paradoxical reward work?
The dog defecates on the floor. You come up and say
"Good Dog" you love and praise him.
THE DOG KNOWS YOU LOVE HIM.
The dog defecates on the floor because he is anxious.
No wild wolf, jackal, or coyote defecates in his den.
If he defecates in his den its because a bear is outside
trying to get in and eat him.
The dog knows that it is stupid to
defecate where he eats or sleeps.
Don't you?
If the dog feels safe he'll behave as if he
is safe, no pooping on the living room floor.
Almost all maladaptive behavior is due to fear, anxiety,
expectation of disaster. Correct the situation, and the
dog behaves fluently like a ..... Dog!
Punishment deranges behavior, it is never never never appropriate.
Love the dog.
Praise is never punishment, praise is like giving a
piece of steak. If you give a piece of steak to a dog
after he defecates on the floor he'll stop defecating
on the floor.
Fondly, Dr. Von
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From: TooCool (larrym...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method
I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.
The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.
It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.
Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.
One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.
When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.
You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).
Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.
What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.
At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leader****p exercises.
Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.
Is Jerry a nut?
It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.
More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.
I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?
Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.
Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.
Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.
Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.
If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).
--Larry
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Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How Wits End
Training Really Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey
And don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That
Deals With Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built
On Trust And Understanding."
Disciple Paulie Writes:
I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.
Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and
say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the
request and I bet you'll find your dog thinking
then responding everytime.
A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule
applies to every aspect of the relation****p with
your dog.
Obedience and affection are not related, if they
were everyone would have obedient dogs.
Paul.
Subject: Here's A Word From C...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2002-01-29 11:53:56 PST
"Jerry Is On A One Man Jihad To Expose
And Discredit Dog Abusing Trainers"
Hello People,
Here's a word from CEO @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:
Hello Fans,
As the leading dog behavior and training
guru/personality of our times, and as the
ceo of the most im****tant dogcasting
network on the planet, I think it's only fair
that I jump in here and break it down a little
like this.
I specialize not only in dogs, but in making
complicated issues easy to understand.
Which brings us to Jerry Howe.
Jerry Howe knows moore about dogs and dog
trainers and dog training methods than anyone
who participates here. As for me, I have more
skill than anyone here. As a result, I can train
dogs brilliantly, and dramatically, even offleash
on busy four lane highways in the concrete
wastelands of America...
http://dogtv.com/4LANE3.rm
without having to worry about following any of Jerry's
rigid guidelines for training dogs, or breaking any of the
rules in his "gestalt" approach. And, for that matter,
without having to rely on non-Jerry methods such as
shock collars or having to use force which makes my
dogs "will to resist fade in im****tance."
You see, fans, I got my own methods, and you'll be
finding out about those presently
HOWE-ever, this is about Jerry, so let's talk Jerry.
Most newbies here, or other people who are struggling,
clueless and frustrated and doing things to train
their dog that they know they should not do, or would
rather not do, which either aren't working, or are even
making things worse, etc...and so forth, can, via
following the techniques in Jerry's FREE manual, get
excellent results in a short period of time.
He'll tell you HOWE, and I'll tell you WHY.
Most of you have heard of Pavlov's bell, where dogs
became conditioned to salivate at the sound of a bell
after they were repeatedly fed immediately after the
sound of the bell.
That's called conditioning.
And, while Jerry forcefully argues against the use of
what he calls "food bribes" (which is HOWE, many
other kinds of animals are trained, for instance,
dolphins) dogs can be trained/conditioned with or
without the use of food.
Jerry chooses to go the non food route exclusively,
and claims to get effective results, quickly, in virtually
any kind of dog or situation. Nothing in my brilliant
guru-ness leads me to believe that he is not being
truthful with most of his claims about his training
methods.
And scientific conditioning, which applies and is
effective on all dogs, and most other mammals
and higher life forms, is the basis of Jerry's training.
This is why, when Jerry says "a dog is a dog is a dog"
he is correct, in a sense.
Yes, there are breed differences, but yes, all dogs,
regardless of breed, can be conditioned using
scientific methods.
As for Jerry's behavior here, I'm not a human trainer,
and I don't try to train humans. But I do deal with people
in the same brilliant way that I deal with dogs. I don't
keep doing something which isn't working in order to
try to get people to behave, any more than I try to do the
same w/ dogs.
The moore you try to force Jerry, or put Jerry in a
Time Out or re****t him to his ISP, the worse his
behavior gets.
Jerry is on a one man Jihad to expose and discredit
trainers who use this same idea of escalating punitivism,
on dogs, which Jerry believes is responsible for causing
the best dogs to get killed because of the fact that they
will not submit to this linear approach of escalating
force and punishment.
His classic example of this phenomenon is a german
shepherd named "Fritz" (do a google search).
Many of Jerry's critics have a vested interest in
Jerry being crazy. Because if he isn't, it makes them
crazy for preaching that Jerry is crazy, so hard and
for so long.
But regardless, to anyone interested in training
their dog effectively without force or punishment,
Jerry's mental state is irrelevant and his advice is
generally excellent, if sometimes overbearing.
And finally, Jerry's approach is especially valuable
for interrupting, stopping or extingui****ng unwanted
behaviors. I'm not so sure howe good it is when it
comes to getting creative results out of dogs, or for
teaching dogs tricks or complicated sequences (at
least as far as I can tell).
My only caveat with Jerry's method is that the idea of
extingui****ng behaviors is kind of like extingui****ng
biodiversity or any other resource. Each behavior is
a resource to me, not necessarily a problem to be
extinguished. You have to be careful what you
extinguish.
But, like jerry says, dogs don't do right or wrong,
they do "dog." And his method does not punish
them for doing wrong. It only tries to extinguish
certain aspects of "dog" which can be problematical
for people.
That's all for now, gotta go back to my new job at an
IT expert. It's a long and grueling one mile walk from
home.
--
this is michael
re****ting live...
from the even faster loading
http://dogtv.com
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: "TooCool" <larrym...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:56:16 GMT
Subject: Thinking Dogs
Using a proper training method, a method consonant with a dog's
nature, it is possible to enhance a dog's ability to think. If their
thinking faculty is not exercised and developed then dogs have a
tendency to bounce around, like a billiard ball, from one stimulus
to another.
But when a dog's thinking faculty is exercised and developed then
they enjoy using that faculty more and more. They begin to feel pride
in their accomplishments-you can observe their delight in the way
that they love to show off what they have learned.
As their thinking faculty develops you will begin to see them
improvise more and more, i.e., applying what they have learned
to new situations. Operant conditioning (clicker training) does
not exercise a dog's ability to think-it conditions a reflex like
reaction at the nervous system level.
If you desire to train a thinking dog, please read the Puppy Wizard's
Wits' End Training Method-it caters to the nature of our thinking dogs.
--Larry
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From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.
Hey J,
I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.
The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with
the last.
I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.
I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.
The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.
Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.
I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.
See ya,
Paul
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From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004
Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,
I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.
You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to
alert the world to animal abuse.
We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and sup****t your valuable
work.
Have you thought of establi****ng a nonprofit
charity to fund your im****tant work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?
In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.
--Marshall Dermer
Marshall Dermer/Associate Professor/
Behavior Analysis Specialty/Department
of Psychology/University of Wisconsin-
Milwaukee/Milwaukee,WI 53201der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
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"The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
may acquire those rights
which never could have been withholden from them
but by the hand of tyranny.
The question is not can they REASON,
nor can they TALK,
but can they SUFFER?" -
- Jeremy Bentham
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
for the good of its victims,
may be the most oppressive.
Those who torment us for our own good
will torment us without end,
for they do so with the approval of
their own conscience." -
- C.S. Lewis.
"Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
Agamemnon.
"If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
and you will know each other.
If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
and what you do not know you will fear.
What one fears, one destroys."
Chief Dan George
All truth p***** through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer
"Thank you for fighting the fine fight--
even tho it's a hopeless task,
in this system of things.
As long as man is ruling man,
there will be animals (and humans!)
abused and neglected. :-(
Your student," Juanita.
"If you've got them by the balls
their hearts and minds
will follow,"
John Wayne.
ANY QUESTIONS, People?
"Ye shall know the truth,
and the truth shall make you mad." -
~Aldous Huxley.
"Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
"Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain!"
-Friedrich Schiller.
INDEEDY.
AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!
In Love And Light,
I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours,
The WORLD'S CRUELEST Trainer,
Jerry Howe,
The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
*M-A-J-E-S-T-I-C*
*G-R-A-N-D*
*M-A-S-T-E-R*
Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Ferret, Goat, Monkey
SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ;~ ) >
HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >
Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092 (Call ANY TIME)
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard
E-mail:
Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory
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