"tiny dancer" <tinydancer357@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Michael A. Ball" <Guardian@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:54:13 -0400, "tiny dancer"
>> <tinydancer357@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Amid the horrors are a few wonderful stories.
Oh, INDEEDY~!
LIKE THIS:
"tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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I have two rather large dogs, both of whom I
acquired after the puppy stage, I have to be immediate,
firm, harsh when controlling bad behaviors.
When one of mine displays a behavior such as the one
you described, I grab them by the collar and take them
down to their side, repeating NO in a strong, firm voice.
And I keep them down on their side until they submit, relax, etc.
Then I repeat the NO again before letting them back up again.
Don't know if this will help you much, but it does work with mine.
td
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AND LIKE THIS:
Newsgroups: alt.sup****t.trauma-ptsd
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 04:38:43 GMT
Subject: Re: Why I'm so pissed off at whats going on
"Ming the Mirthless" <M...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:husz7.10983$%B6.3590222@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Thanks Larry, you said it so well. Lots of us have similar triggers
and
> > different reactions. I know that "deer in the headlights" stance
well.
> > Frozen in fear. I wish I did that fight or flight thing better. If
I'm
> > in the right place I can sometimes do the fight, but if not the
flight
> > always escapes me, it ends up being frozen in fear. So many times
I've
> > opened my mouth to scream and nothing comes out, even the scream is
> > frozen inside.
>
> I bet you give a good blow job though. Ming
Ya know what Ming, I didn't really see how cruel you guys really
are over there in alt war, but I see it now. We've got others here
who might be triggered by this as I am.
Right now all I can say is I hope someday somebody rapes you.
tiny dancer
> I so much admire that about you, Michael.
But of curse~!
michael a.k.a. Andrea Beck LOVES all critters, like yourself, tiny dancer:
tiny dancer only wants to hunt Pit Bull Dogs with a gun:
3gwoj.63745$vt2.4...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I already own a S&W, .357 and it's neither large nor heavy. It's a
bit smaller, only six shots, whereas dh's holds seven. I've thought
of carrying that, but would prefer something else.
I'm looking for something to use against a rather large, aggressive
pit bull, just in case. I don't think a small .22 would even make a
dent. This is one of those block-headed, really wide-jawed, very
muscular pit bulls," td.
Whereas michal MURDERS innocent defenseless dumb
critter randomly FOR PLEASURE and of curse, to teach
children, RESPONSIBILITY:
Newsgroups: alt.fifty-plus.friends
From: Michael A. Ball <Guard...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 18:52:34 -0400
Subject: Re: Superstitious?(sp)
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 22:43:24 GMT,
**Dalin** <l...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Care to tell us why you feel that way?
> I won't try and argue with you or change
> your mind, but what happened to put you
> off cats above all other creatures?
I've never liked cats, because their movements are too
much like those of rats. Since childhood, I viewed cats
as no more than targets.
On 12-23-95, I killed a cat that my wife had allowed her
daughter to bring into the house, as a pet, several days
earlier. The cat was a stray and having it in the house
was contrary to our agreement for living here.
My wife moved out , permanently, that night.
Ten months later, she moved out of this county--deliberately
withholding her new address. I haven't heard from her since.
Thank you for not trying to change my mind. I won't argue
about this issue. Many people hate cats; perhaps most of
them are more discrete about voicing their opinions. I
try not to say much, but sometimes, I can't resist.
Michael
Whatever it takes.
> Your ability to come through the really horrible
> ones to appreciate the good endings.
Oh, INDEEDY~!
LIKE THIS:
Newsgroups: alt.fifty-plus.friends
From: Michael A. Ball <Guard...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2003 22:27:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Superstitious?(sp)
On 03 Oct 2003 00:12:27 GMT,
vbfree...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Vickie) wrote:
> I am glad that I know this about you...what
> you did was sick and creepy and I'll waste
> no more time on you.
Well, I have plenty of time, and I don't
mind wasting a bit more of it on You.
I'd like to tell you a little story. When I met Victoria, she
used marijuana and had lost custody of her four daughters.
We met at work, began to care about one another and eventually
married. We were very poor: I rode a bicycle to work, rain or
****ne. At the time we met, Victoria could not prove who she was.
She had no birth certificate, no driver's license, no education,
no self esteem, etc.
We regained custody of her daughters, actually the only one
not married by then was 11 year old, Jennifer. Victoria got
some counseling, began taking GED cl*****, got her driver's
license and an insured car. Later, she joined the church
choir, corrected her credit and obtained a credit card.
Eventually, we accepted a job managing this Hospital Guest
House. The house is on federal property so it is very safe.
Our living area is double was it previously was. All utilities
are furnished and there is no maintenance. This arrangement is
far superior to anything we could have imagined.
One stipulation placed on us was that Victoria's existing cat
could be the only pet allowed. Because Victoria felt obligated
to provide Jennifer's every request, as a way of making up for
lost time, she allowed Jennifer to keep the stray cat in the house.
I wasn't about to let this spoiled brat
jeopardize such a grand living arrangement.
Victoria considered me verbally and emotionally abusive,
and killing the illegal cat was the final straw. Since I had
helped turn her life around, she had the means to move out.
That was almost eight years ago; and I am still managing
this house. So, I reckon I must have some degree of compassion-
-and probably not as "sick and creepy" as you'd like to believe.
You can call my action "sick and creepy", but I call
it preserving an unimaginable op****tunity for us.
By the way, do you really think your little attitude would
mean anything to a person like me? LOL! Oh, I shouldn't
have asked: seeing how you'll waste no more time on me.
Pleasant dreams,
Michael
Whatever it takes.
> Of course I love the good endings too, but I sometimes
> tend to get stuck in the pain of the others.
NO PROBLEMO~!:
Subject: "Secret Cutting"
Groups: alt.sup****t.depression
From: Michael Ball
Date: Tues, May 30 2000 12:00 am
Email: "Michael Ball" <Guard...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
The movie, "Secret Cutting" airs tonight at
9:00 p.m. eastern, on USA Network.
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Groups: alt.sup****t.depression
From: Michael Ball
Date: Mon, Dec 27 1999 12:00 am
Howard Hong wrote,
> "If I wanted more of this feeling, then
> it would probably be a pleasure, no?"
I almost replied, "WRONG!," and offered this explanation:
I sometimes makes little cuts under my watchband, with a
razor blade.
Although there is some physical pain, I feel triumphant
because Michael Ball is getting a little dose of what he
deserves. So, it is a pleasure.
How odd; even sensations that most people would rate as
bad, sick, horrible, etc., can be and are pleasures--if
we want them. I never thought of those insignificant
little cuts specifically as pleasures, but they are!
I love it when little streams of blood trickle down my arm.
And I like the reminder pain over the following couple of
days, during the healing process.
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Subject: Prozac
Groups: alt.sup****t.depression
From: Michael Ball - view profile
Date: Mon, Aug 14 2000 12:00 am
Prozac affects everyone differently. Please, don't allow
other's Prozac experiences to influence you too much.
I take another medicine that makes me tired; so, I can't
attribute fatigue to Prozac. FWIW, fatigue is a common
complaint. I don't believe Prozac has any effect on one's
immune system. In my humble opinion, Tabasco Sauce and
jalapeno peppers are far more effective than any flu shot!
:-) I haven't had a cold in years. :-)
Wait a minute! A cat lover!?
Oh, well, I suppose someone has to...
(((K))) I hope you're doing well today.
Michael
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> It takes a very special person to do what you do.
INDEEDY~!
You an michael know each other from the DEPRESSION / PTSD groups:
Newsgroups: alt.sup****t.trauma-ptsd
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:44:18 GMT
Subject: Re: the jungle (trigger warning)
Hi, I guess here is where one puts triggers??
Your experience triggered a memory in me of the same
sort of situation. I too was in my closet, preparing for a
move, going through boxes of things, sorting, whether
to move or discard. I came upon a box I hadn't opened in
years.
My ptsd is due to an abusive childhood.
So I opened this box and found a small red book, a diary.
I kind of remembered the book, seeing it before. All of my
early memories were repressed at this time in my life.
So I eagerly opened the book to see what was inside. I began
reading a page at random. I don't recall what it said, I just
remember whatever it said triggered horror in me.
I threw the book across the room, screaming, crying hysterically.
I did that for a long time, until I was cried out, exhausted, then I
mechanically walked across the room to where the diary had landed,
picked it up, took it all the way outside, through the snow, to the
trash cans. The waste basket in the kitchen wouldn't do.
Something in me knew I had to get it out of the house.
I threw it in the trash can, went back inside, and continued on
as if it never happened. I didn't even remember it happening
at all until years later in therapy.
tiny dancer
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> Spend time with the animals about to be put down. Give them the very
> best. And do it time after time. I hope ou realize how very special
you
> are and how very much you have been able to do for countless animals.
You
> have a very good heart.
Oh, INDEEDY~!
JUST LIKE YOURSELF, tiny dancer:
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: richard.schmid...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sun, 3 Feb 2008 17:55:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Melinda: Mu****ng in Ontario
On Feb 3, 10:38?am, "tiny dancer"
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> wrote:
"Shelly" <scouvre...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:fo4p6d$u1r$4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> > news:XAbpj.90053$K27.284@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >> Actually not. ?This would be a very large, very block-headed, very
> >> thick-necked, wide- jawed pit bull that is tethered to a run that
> >> doesn't at all look strong enough to hold my own Gracie.
>
> > Have you considered talking to the owner? ?Or do you really intend to
> > kill someone's dog without giving them a chance to secure it to your
> > specifications?
>
> > Also, do you not have animal control where you live?
>
> Of course I considered talking to the owner, but since the dog is on a
run
> extending the width of the persons front property, I don't see any way
to
> accomplish that. ?Since you are responding to a stalker to begin with,
you
> should expect to not have gotten the correct info. ?I was asking for
info
> about the difference between stun guns and tasers, the rest was prompted
> by other posters and replied to in sarcasm. ?I also had a number of
> responses of a poisoning nature which I simply ignored completely.
Stalker? How about disgusted husband?
Liar! Liar! Pants on fire!
First, have a look at this map of the neighborhood and tell us which
house has the scary dog, and why you think there's a "business"
there.
Second, you can find the owner's phone number at this site and give
them a call :)
http://tinyurl.com/23u5zh
Third, you need to reread the thread. You are totally misrepresenting
what was said. One person suggested chocolate - no one else even
mentioned poison. And you don't recognize sarcasm, much less know
how to use it.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.true-crime/browse_thread/thread/91...
> ? Yes we have animal control, but the dog is *restrained* on it's
> property, for now. ?I have since spoken to two others of my neighbors,
> both also terrified that dog is going to get free. ?Both told me they
> never walk off our road because of it. ?
> The woman who owns the CBR said that is one of the reasons they don't
> confine their dog to their property, rather allowing it to accompany
their
> boys, to protect them. ?The other woman I spoke to also walks her dog
and
> explained to me the rather limited route she has been forced to take in
> walking her dog because she too *accidentally* came upon this dog one
day,
> just as I did.
> ?Both of these other people also own dogs and are comfortable around
them,
> especially the dad in the CBR family. ?They all consider this dog to be
> highly vicious in temperament. ?
> The property where it's located has a *business* of sorts. ?It's obvious
> this dog is meant to *guard* that property, hence the long run it has.
?It
> is able to run from one side of the property to the complete other side.
There isn't enough traffic on that road to sup****t a "business."
You're just making this all up because you want some attention
right now.
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tiny dancer CONcludes with this self observation:
So see how far I've come with my therapy. I'm sure when I
began my therapist didn't ever in a million years think I'd end
up with a pistol and a pack of big dogs, but hey, he says whatever
works for you.
tiny dancer
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> Every time I read one of your stories, I quietyly thank the world
> for you. Other than my husband and my grandchildren, I love
> dogs more than anything else in the world. If I could, I would bring
> every one home with me.
Subject: Re: R U A Manic Depressive Monday Test Day Group:
alt.mothersuperior
Date: Mon, Jan 6, 2003, 5:10pm (EST+5)
From: tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(tiny dancer)
"years back I took the MMPI, it'a a psychological test........and one
of the things in it, to weed out the fakers or people trying to skew
their results, is asking particular 'same questions' numerous times.
Not quite as obvious as this little quiz cuz I think there are over
500 questions on it.......but 'running into' that little ruse again made
me chuckle. I asked my shrink afterwards, after I finished taking it,
"did they ask the same question more than once on this thing?"
And he was the one who explained to me why it was done. ;-)," td
> Because each is unique and special in it's own way, and deserving
> of someone to care. You *care* and I applaude you for it.
Newsgroups: alt.sup****t.trauma-ptsd
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 06:56:49 GMT
Subject: Re: What if there is no "before" the traumas?
Hi kat & kris,
I've pondered these same things so many times.......you hit the
nail on the head when you said "you wonder what you might
have been." I do that so much sometimes, wonder what it
would've been like to not be told all the time "you're too stupid
to do that"........"don't even try such and such.....you're way too
dumb" yadda yadda yadda........
I just naturally assume I'm an idiot.
And the old 'what's normal' questions......... never knowing what
emotions or feelings are 'normal' for a situation. I used to ask my
therapist all the time........'is this 'normal'.........is that normal???
Especially when dealing with my kids, I had no idea 'what' *normal*
was..........I mean I knew 'normal' wasn't getting beaten up, swore at,
thrown down the stairs..........etc., but then I'd wonder if 'normal' was
like "Father Knows Best".......if that's what I was supposed to strive
for with my kids.
And that big empty place inside that hurts all the time, the place I
guess was supposed to be filled up with 'parent's love and
sup****t'........
I remember one of my therapists once telling me 'beneath the depression,
anxiety......whatever else........that he detected a deep sense of
calmness
in me, a true gentleness......' and then I got to thinking what I might
have been like if it all hadn't happened so early? I might have been a
calm, gentle person with a great sense of humor, cuz when I'm not totally
depressed I have a really great sense of humor............I could've been
a
really neat person, who knows??
So anyway, I know what you guys are saying.......
it's something I've spent lots and lots of time thinking about myself.
luv,
td
> You know, since we moved to the country, I've come to get special
pleasure
> from watching the horses I see when walking my dogs. I
> love to watch them, looking so healthy and free. They look like such
> intelligent creatures, full of pride. I've never owned one, nor had the
> ability to have a special relationsip with one, but to me anyway, they
> seem like they also have special relation****ps with humans, much the
> way dogs do.
"Although, when we first got Gracie, she was a bit dog
aggressive, and I did grab her by her collar, shouting NO
at her in my most firm commanding voice, and slam her
down to the ground and hold her there.
She weighs about 70 pounds. And doing that only a couple
times, taught her dog aggression was not acceptable behavior.
She no longer does it. But if there is a new dog present, and
I have the slightest doubt as to how she might react, I make
sure she is on a leash until I'm positive she won't be aggressive
towards it."
"I use my prong collars on the dogs when I do something
like that, just to be extra cautious because I have a child
with me. I want to have the best control over them as
possible, just in case they see a cat or something on our walk.
We do tend to see more critters out here in the country, and
the dogs aren't accustomed to all that yet. Lots of people out
here let their dogs roam freely, plus the cats, and we even
come upon the occasional horseback rider. I haven"t had
the time to work with them as much as I'd like yet, because
of my ruptured disc's. I have to take it easy for a few more
months per my physical therapist.
Hope this might help you some,"
"Now bo, do you remember what I told you one does if
their dog does something objectionable? You grab it
by the collar, put the dog down into a postion of
submission, and hold it there until it understands it's
place in order of the pack.
And when I use the term 'pack' here, I'm not referring
to four dogs. I'm referring to dog/human. And need I
even mention the fact that these were Rottweilers/Chow mixes????
I think pretty much everyone here who know's anything about
dogs has voiced their opinion about avoiding CHOWS. You
certainly don't go out and breed a CHOW with a rottie to get
a better PROTECTION dog."
> Anyway, sorry to digress. Thank you Michael, for doing the
> work you do with animals. I always look forward to reading your stories
> when you post.
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:03:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Help with barking
"pfoley" <pfol...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> > "Melinda Shore" <sh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > news:fd15ab$noo$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > In article <46f512f0.11294...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, **Dalin**
> > > <l...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > I have trained her to heel and to come and to sit, to not jump on
> > > > people, I just haven't had any luck with the barking.
>
> > > I find barking to be a particularly difficult one to break. I had a
> > > collie x who was a big-time barker.
>
> > You want dog talk. Okay, I'll give you dog talk. Barking, Cesar
> > Millan's technique worked perfectly well for my two. Oh, it takes a
> > bit of effort. But my barkers are learning. They love to hang out
> > upstairs at our front windows and rule the neighborhood by barking at
> > everyone who dares to cross in front of our home.
> > I calmly and quietly move my body in front of them, *claiming* the
> > window as *my territory*. And I back them away from the window and
> > what ever is outside there enticing them to bark. And ya know what,
it
> > works like a charm. I'm at the point where I no longer have to
> > actually get up and go over to the window to *claim it* anymore. I
> > simply say their names and stand up. Where upon they begin backing
away
> > from the window all on their own.
>
> > I've been working on it about a week now, I say I'll give it one more
> > week and I think, by the way they have been responding to this
training,
> > my barking at the window problem will be solved.
>
> > Now go ahead, have at me about Cesar. Since his walking on the leash
> > training was a snap for me, I have no doubt the window training will
> > also be a success. td
> Yes, td, it does seem to work. That is what I suggested Dalin, also, to
> stop her dog from barking at the front door. I have also used that
method
> with my dog when she tries to go up to someone who visits me, looking
for
> pats. I move in between her and the guest, point and tell her where I
> want her to go, and she does it.
> She does sometimes try to muscle in a couple of more times though, but
I
> keep repeating it.
> Actually what we are doing is taking the power away from the dog and
> ****fting it to ourselves by claiming that space.
I've found the *calm assertive* method
to work for me in everything I've tried.
Good luck in your efforts! Sometimes training the
people is almost as hard as training the dogs. ;-)
I have to continually repeat, 'ignore them until they behave'.
No acknowledgments, no pets, etc., ignore them.
best,
td
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> best,
LikeWIZE:
"tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "Shelly" <scouvre...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:ff68d8$tmu$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Luna" <lunaj...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
>> news:QXwRi.76780$1y4.12066@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> > Yeah, but different isn't bad. Remember?
>
>> That *is* what I said. Not different? Kind of worrisome. You might
want
>> to look around for pods.
> Anyway, I'm not at all averse to insulting people, when I think they're
> acting like total douchebags. If you don't understand the difference
> between that and calling people names, you might want to have your
mother
> explain it to you. And *that* being said, I'm not even opposed to
calling
> people names, but there are limits. I think names like "****" cross an
> im****tant line. YMMV, obviously, but only if you are a total douchebag.
LMAO. Perhaps you should post a list of what's acceptable
and what isn't in that little mind of yours.
Let's see, douchebag is in the acceptable column, **** is in the
unacceptable column. Can we all say hypocrite. And who died
and made you boss of what's acceptable and what isn't when
it comes to insults? One persons *snide* different, could be
another persons ****.
td
> td
Groups: alt.sup****t.depression
Subject: Why do People seem to Have an Orgasm
making snide remarks?? It Makes my
skin crawl. Rosena
From: Michael A. Ball
Date: Mon, Mar 20 2006 11:15 am
Email: Michael A. Ball <Guard...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
On 19 Mar 2006 14:52:39 -0800, elystormbrin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>...I know. It isn't the person, as much as the way
> humans in general can't resist making jabs at
> people if some op****tunity presents itself. I was
> talking about Claudia who I do not get along with
> anyway. And whenever she makes a remark in
> anything related to me it makes me livid. But . . .
> I am also antsy today.
Always consider the source. Whether they are written or
spoken words, negative or positive, always consider who
it was that wrote or spoke those words. Ask yourself if
that person is even worth listening to. Decide whether
or not their views are worth the time of day--much less
being upset about.
Personally, I don't mind snide remarks at all.
Whatever it takes.
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