HOWEDY tommy sorenson aka not so handsome,
not so happy, not so gentle, not so manly, jackass,
not even jack morrison aka joey finnochiarrio aka
howie lip****z aka BIG DADDY aka DOGMAN,
a.k.a. *****MAN, you pathetic miserable stinkin
anonymHOWES malignant maliciHOWES lyin dog
child an spHOWES abusing punk thug coward active
accute chronic life long incurable mental case and
paranoid homophobe, misogynist, puppy miller and
shock collar salesman,
So, what you're sayin is, SCIENTIFICALLY SPEAKIN, katlat24
MURDERED her innocent defenseless dumb kitty kat FOR NO
GOOD REASON, just on accHOWENTA she and her idiot
veterinary malpracticioner are imbecile animal murderin punk
thug coward active acute chronic life-long incurable malignant
maliciHOWES MENTAL CASES, like yourself and the rest of
these animal murderin cowards?
SHAAAZZZAAAMMM~!~!~!
No, not "SHAAAZZZAAAMMM~!~!~!", tommy.
THAT WAS PREDICTABLE <{}: ~ ( >
"Handsome Jack Morrison" <handsomejackmorrison@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:8duc54t3k1vrg462m2hurp3j06sqhge38n@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:59:03 -0400, "kat" <katlat24@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
>>"Handsome Jack Morrison" <handsomejackmorrison@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
message
>>news:82ab54h30ctrllts4eqodke3lnjhnslabl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On 15 Jun 2008 22:57:02 GMT, M Healey <thezoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >It's a difficult situation when you pick up a cat that
>>> >has a communicable, fatal disease and don't dare integrate it with
your
>>> >own.
>>>
>>> If you're talking about FIV, there's no reason that a cat who happened
>>> to be unlucky enough to test positive for FIV antibodies can't still
>>> live a long and healthy life. It's not a fatal disease.
>
>>FWIW I asked the vet what the average lifespan is for a cat infected
with
>>FIV and she said about 5 years.
>
> I think he's wrong about that. Unless my sister (and many other FIV
> cat owners) has a bunch of atypical FIV positive cats. One has lived
> for over 12 years, another for 10, another almost 8, and several have
> lived for 6+, and all are going strong.
>
> And those numbers relate to the day the cat was first tested for FIV,
> which means that they could have been FIV positive for several years
> prior to their adoption by my sisters.
>
> And if you check around, you'll find beau coup sites like this one:
> http://www.bestfriends.org/theanimals/petcare/cats_fiv.cfm
>
> Now your vet may be thinking of outdoor cats, which aren't routinely
> vaccinated, are usually chronically infested with parasites, and get
> little to no medical treatment.
>
>>They also have more episodes of upper
>>respiratory illness over the course of that lifespan which this cat was
>>experiencing at the time.
>
> It could be the other way around. That cats that are prone to upper
> respiratory infections more frequently test positive for FIV
> antibodies than cats that don't.
>
> Also, many cats are prone to upper respiratory infections anyway,
> especially cats with feline herpes virus, etc.
>
> Which may have been what you observed.
>
> And the cat just happened to test positive for FIV antibodies, too.
>
> And it earned him a death sentence.
>
>>> They can also live comfortably with cats who don't test positive for
>>> FIV antibodies. To the extent that it's "communicable," which can only
>>> be done via an exchange of blood, e.g., a cat fight, the same things
>>> apply.
>>
>>Also saliva according to the vet.
>
> But only through a bite wound, and by a cat with infected and/or
> bloody gums.
>
> An FIV positive cannot pass it to another cat through licking, casual
> contact, etc.
>
>>The cat had an abcess on his leg and
>>other indications that he was indeed fighting with other animals.
>
> Yes, that can happen in cat fights, which is why more toms test
> positive for FIV than queens.
>
>>There also
>>was a heart murmur but the vet wasn't able determine if there was
'slush'
>>because of the intense purring.
>
> It sounds like the cat had an upper respiratory infection, and that
> can be treated.
>
> Unfortunately, once a cat tests positive for FIV, euthanasia usually
> and follows. IMO, it doesn't have to be that way.
>
> [...]
>>They are also at a higher risk for carrying the Bartonella bacteria.
That
>>was the bacteria I was talking about in a previous post. Since I was
>>scratched I had the vet run a Bartonella test.
>
> Again, it could be that it's just the other way around.
>
> A cat with frequent challenges to its immune system (Bartonella,
> herpes, parasites, fungi, etc.) is more prone to testing positive for
> FIV.
>
>>> One school of thought suggests that feral cats are most prone to
>>> testing positive for FIV, probably because of chronic parasite and or
>>> fungal infestations. But if the infestations are treated, and the cat
>>> is otherwise healthy, it can still live a normal life.
>
>>Yes it was definitely flea infested.
>
> Chronic parasitic infestations can destroy an immune system
> single-handily.
>
> Which is why it's so im****tant to treat any symptoms as early as
> possible.
>
> [...]
>>> Unfortunately, testing positive for FIV antibodies is basically a
>>> death sentence for cats today, because of irrational and unfounded
>>> fears surrounding FIV.
>>>
>>> IMO, a lot of cats are needlessly being deprived of good homes, and/or
>>> needlessly being destroyed.
>>
>>I will be having both the inside cats and the outside cats tested over
the
>>next few weeks. If the inside cats are positive I would not have them
put
>>down.
>
> Good! And if you keep them separated, there's really no reason for you
> to have the outside cats tested (IMO), even if you think I'm wrong.
>
>>Honestly I'm not sure what I will do if the outside ones test
>>positive. I will have to give it a lot of thought.
>
> Look around on the web. You'll find beau coup cat centers and cat
> sites that do not share the "conventional wisdom" when it comes to
> FIV.
>
> If you can afford to periodically treat those outside cats for
> parasitic infestations, upper respiratory infections, have them
> vaccinated, feed them nutritious food, etc., they can live normal and
> healthy lives.
>
> If you take them to the vet, and they're unfortunate enough to test
> positive on the Elisa test, and you can't afford to follow up with a
> more expensive Western Blot test, or better yet, a PCR (polymerase
> chain reaction) test, you may be signing a bunch of unnecessary death
> warrants.
>
> And even with strong confirmation, it would only mean that the cat at
> one time was exposed to FIV (thus the FIV-specific *antibodies*), not
> that there's active FIV present.
>
> Antibodies are what the body uses to *fight* infections, they don't
> kill us. They don't kill cats, either.
>
>>For the stray though,
>>given that it didn't like to be handled and had a variety of other
medical
>>problems it is unlikely to have been a candidate for adoption if I took
it
>>to a shelter or AC.
>
> Maybe. Maybe not.
>
> Which is why, in my opinion, you probably should have left the cat
> alone.
>
> But, hey, hindsight is always 20-20.
>
> I'd do some additional checking around before I decided what to do
> about those cats of yours.
>
> Anyway, good luck!
>
> --
> Handsome "Jack" Morrison
>
> Hate paying $5 for a gallon of gas? You can thank Al "The Goracle"
Gore.
> <spit>
> http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/19842304.html
>
> At the Official Obama Site: 'How the Jewish Lobby Works'
>
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30241_At_the_Official_Obama_Site-_How_the_Jewish_Lobby_Works
>
> "Global warming", solved!
>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2076607/Sheep-flatulence-inoculation-developed.html
>
> So-called "green" taxes are a con. They have absolutely nothing to do
with
> saving the planet, or changing people's behaviour. It is all about
raising
> revenue. Governments around the world have realised that
environmentalism
> gives them an easy way of squeezing yet more tax out of hard-working
> people.
> And if you object, you are supposed to feel guilty about drowning polar
> bears.
> "Green" taxes also impact most heavily on the poor. This isn't an
> accident,
> it is a deliberate policy.--Bill Carmichael, York****re Post, 31 May 2008
>
> Saudi Montana.
> http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/2008/06/02/saudi-montana/
>
> Skipping science class.
> http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5820.html
>
> So much for "settled science".
> http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/environment/story.html?id=525590
>
> The top ten list of things environmentalists need to learn.
> http://depletedcranium.com/?p=368
>
> New Jason Satellite Indicates 23-Year Global Cooling.
> http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2871
>
> Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh.
> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23583376-7583,00.html
>
> A book that every American should read (and NYT #1 bestseller): Liberal
> Fascism, by Jonah Goldberg
>
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841
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