Not to worry, kat. It gets EZier EVERY TIME you
MURDERWON of your dearly beloved pets, even
if it's someWON ELSE'S, whom you "RESCUED":
"Thank you for your kind words :) I'm trying to but the could have,
should have, would haves are killing me. *Why* did I just accept
the vet's 'expertise', why didn't I do some of my own research before
she became so seriously ill? If I had paid a little closer attention we
might have had her another year instead of just 7 months (from
diagnosis)," Kathy.
"kat" <katlat24@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "Handsome Jack Morrison" <handsomejackmorrison@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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>> On 15 Jun 2008 22:57:02 GMT, M Healey <thezoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >It's a difficult situation when you pick up a cat that
>> >has a communicable, fatal disease and don't dare integrate it with
your
>> >own.
>>
>> If you're talking about FIV, there's no reason that a cat who happened
>> to be unlucky enough to test positive for FIV antibodies can't still
>> live a long and healthy life. It's not a fatal disease.
>
>
> FWIW I asked the vet what the average lifespan is for a cat infected
with
> FIV and she said about 5 years. They also have more episodes of upper
> respiratory illness over the course of that lifespan which this cat was
> experiencing at the time. Since she estimated the cat's age to be about
> 5-6
> years and it is unknown when he was infected it was a very iffy
> situation.
>
>>
>> They can also live comfortably with cats who don't test positive for
>> FIV antibodies. To the extent that it's "communicable," which can only
>> be done via an exchange of blood, e.g., a cat fight, the same things
>> apply.
>
> Also saliva according to the vet. The cat had an abcess on his leg and
> other indications that he was indeed fighting with other animals. There
> also
> was a heart murmur but the vet wasn't able determine if there was
'slush'
> because of the intense purring.
>
>>It's not a death sentence.
>>
>> For example, virtually all of the lions in Kruger National Park test
>> positive for FIV (first tested in the 80s) and there has been no
>> decline in overall mortality rates. I can't find the cite, but a study
>> done on feral cats suggests that over 60% of them test positive for
>> FIV antibodies (ELISA test).
>
> They are also at a higher risk for carrying the Bartonella bacteria.
That
> was the bacteria I was talking about in a previous post. Since I was
> scratched I had the vet run a Bartonella test.
>
>>
>> One school of thought suggests that feral cats are most prone to
>> testing positive for FIV, probably because of chronic parasite and or
>> fungal infestations. But if the infestations are treated, and the cat
>> is otherwise healthy, it can still live a normal life.
>
> Yes it was definitely flea infested.
>>
>> Another school of thought suggests that FIV is merely a "passenger"
>> virus, and is only expressed when a cat's immune system is seriously
>> weakened or destroyed, again, probably by chronic infestations of
>> parasites, etc. Exactly the reverse of current "conventional wisdom."
>>
>> My sisters are cat folks, and they have rescued many cats who tested
>> positive for FIV antibodies, some for as long as 12 years, and they
>> basically lead normal cat lives, and live among other cats who have
>> never tested positive for FIV antibodies.
>>
>> Unfortunately, testing positive for FIV antibodies is basically a
>> death sentence for cats today, because of irrational and unfounded
>> fears surrounding FIV.
>>
>> IMO, a lot of cats are needlessly being deprived of good homes, and/or
>> needlessly being destroyed.
>
> I will be having both the inside cats and the outside cats tested over
the
> next few weeks. If the inside cats are positive I would not have them
put
> down. Honestly I'm not sure what I will do if the outside ones test
> positive. I will have to give it a lot of thought. For the stray
though,
> given that it didn't like to be handled and had a variety of other
medical
> problems it is unlikely to have been a candidate for adoption if I took
it
> to a shelter or AC.
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
>>
>> Anyway, that's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
>>
>> --
>> Handsome "Jack" Morrison
>>
>> Hate paying $5 for a gallon of gas? You can thank Al "The Goracle"
Gore.
> <spit>
>> http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/19842304.html
>>
>> At the Official Obama Site: 'How the Jewish Lobby Works'
>>
>
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30241_At_the_Official_Obama_Site-_Ho
> w_the_Jewish_Lobby_Works
>>
>> "Global warming", solved!
>>
>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2076607/Sheep-flatul
> ence-inoculation-developed.html
>>
>> So-called "green" taxes are a con. They have absolutely nothing to do
>> with
>> saving the planet, or changing people's behaviour. It is all about
>> raising
>> revenue. Governments around the world have realised that
environmentalism
>> gives them an easy way of squeezing yet more tax out of hard-working
> people.
>> And if you object, you are supposed to feel guilty about drowning polar
> bears.
>> "Green" taxes also impact most heavily on the poor. This isn't an
> accident,
>> it is a deliberate policy.--Bill Carmichael, York****re Post, 31 May
2008
>>
>> Saudi Montana.
>> http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/2008/06/02/saudi-montana/
>>
>> Skipping science class.
>> http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/5820.html
>>
>> So much for "settled science".
>> http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/environment/story.html?id=525590
>>
>> The top ten list of things environmentalists need to learn.
>> http://depletedcranium.com/?p=368
>>
>> New Jason Satellite Indicates 23-Year Global Cooling.
>> http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2871
>>
>> Sorry to ruin the fun, but an ice age cometh.
>>
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23583376-7583,00.html
>>
>> A book that every American should read (and NYT #1 bestseller): Liberal
> Fascism, by Jonah Goldberg
>>
>
http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511
> 841
>
>
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