HOWEDY salamander,
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> My 2+ year old sight hound will sometimes ****ft positions while
> sleeping beside me and will "tremble" all over briefly and her eyes
> look squinty/strange, as if something hurts, concerns or is upsetting
> her.
Your dog is AFRAID, salamander, the SAME problem your dog
had when you wrote in re: Vestibular Syndrome. These are
STRESS INDUCED PSYCHOGENIC disorders, salamander.
> She was just at the vet 2 weeks ago and had a FULL tick
> panel run and all the results came back negative. [and all
> her Snap 3D tests have always been negative, too]
SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE~!
> A friend who had Lyme disease and is BIG on thinking most dog health
> problems are Ehrlichia keeps telling me to put her
> on Doxycycline anyway, even though our vet assures us she does not have
> it.
There may be SOME truth to that, salamander:
From the article http://newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james16.htm
"Cognitive dysfunction and chronic emotional stress with symptoms
of apathy, exhaustion, confusion, poor appetite, memory loss, nervous
stomach, social withdrawal, loss of *** drive and motivation are often
attributed to depression when they were actually caused by infection.
Many parasitic infections escape diagnosis because standard stool
parasite studies pick up only 10 % of active infections. At times
this is caused by inconsistent shedding patterns and other cases
are missed because the parasites are outside the intestine.
The World Health Organization states that 2 billion people have
worms but these are rarely seen in stool exams. Many restaurants
are staffed by persons from foreign lands where parasites are
common so exposure to parasitic infection can occur in most U.S.
restaurants.
To overcome these failures the Research Institute for Infectious
Mental Illness suggests ova and parasite microscopy, multifluid
antigen and antibody detection, stool cultures, enzyme immunoassays,
imaging
techniques, and extensive evaluation of the patients history
and clinical information to discover chronic infections.
Patients diagnosed as chronic candidiasis (yeast) may actually have
more significant infections which are preventing long term cure.
Curing hidden infections often results in return of normal brain
metabolism. Fever and antibody elevation often disappear in
patients with neurotoxin injury to the immune system and thyroid
hypofunction caused by hypothalamic toxicity. Rebuilding the
host's immune system and restoring integrity of the intestines will
help prevent relapse.
Care to not provide premature nutritional supplements that are growth
factors for certain microorganisms is vital. Screening tests for heavy
metal toxicity, environmental chemical exposure, molds, electromagnetic
stressors, abnormal glucose metabolism, brain allergies, food
sensitivities,
hormone imbalances, neurotransmitter imbalances, nutritional deficiencies,
ph abnormalities, and dietary correction can improve cognitive function.
In my opinion the arguments about the failure to diagnose infections
causing
brain symptoms presented by Frank Strick are persuasive and sound.
Most psychiatric consultations almost certainly are notconcerned with
exploring diagnostic considerations outside the psychiatric realm. This
whole field of psychiatric diagnosis needs to be reconsidered in view of
the
strong evidence that toxoplasmosis, parasitic infections, borrelia
burgdorfi, candida, borna disease virus, streptococcus, and other
infectious
agents are capable of producing impaired brain function with symptoms that
will generate a psychiatric diagnosis in a conventional psychiatrist's
office.
There is a real possibility that many, perhaps most patients, have an
infectious illness that is correctable not a permanent psychiatric
impairment.
This failure to discover infectious causes for psychiatric symptoms
is tragic because many persons are vegetating in psychiatric facilities
for the remainder of their lives, instead of recovering full health when
their infection is cured.
My suggestion to readers is to consider exploring a consultation with
the Research Institute for Infectious Mental Illness before accepting a
psychiatric diagnosis that is likely to lead to a lengthy and minimally
effective therapy."
----------
Have you had yourself tested, salamander? THAT'S the ONLY
REASON I can figgure you'd be postin your idiocy here again.
> I had my old beloved dog die from probable Ehrlichia/Lyme 6 years ago
> [which we did not know back then...our ex-vet said she'd had a "stroke"]
> and this baby is her soul-twin and the great
> love of my life.
Well, looks like you're doin it all over again, eh, salamander??
> That loss has given me a phobia of tick-borne disease.
Perhaps your phobias are caused by your own phantazamagoria?
> The only unusual thing that's happened recently was that her half-
> sister knocked her down in the yard but she immediately jumped back up
and
> exacted "revenge" upon her by play-attacking her.
Ahhh, "PLAY REVENGE"~! Very effective~!
> After these "tremble" episodes, which last less than a minute, she is
> running, playing and being a maniac again. I worry she has internal
> injuries but the vet noticed nothing odd and she certainly doesn't act
> "hurt".
YOUR DOG IS AFRAID.
> Sight hounds are known to be high strung and flighty
Sez sight HOWEND owners, like yourself and racetrack silly??
> but she's never been thus. She's very fearless and
> noise-proof and not at all jumpy about things.
Of curse.
> I have 4 others of the same breed and due to horrible living conditions
> suffered as puppies, they all tremble for no good reason periodically
> because they're all emotionally damaged from the breeder's abuses.
Yeah. It's EZ to blame the past for HOWER present problems.
> [they are rescues]
Of curse~!
> *That* I can understand but this pup had a great childhood and
> was only with the above-mentioned woman for a month and a
> half before she came here.
>
> She's never shown ANY signs of emotional damage [unless excessive
> attachment to me counts] and this is worrying me sick.
Perhaps she's gettin it from *you*, salamander??
> It's here and gone so fast that I can't even video-record it to show
> the vet and she doesn't normally do it during her office visits.
> She likes him and actually enjoys all the petting and attention he
> gives her.
Of curse. You can tell by HOWE she wiggles her tail an offers kisses, eh??
> The only time she ever trembled in front of him was after a particularly
> thorough anal gland expression and I suppose that is understandable,
> especially since that was the same visit when he drew so much blood for
> the tick panel and she jerked the needle out midway through the drawing
of
> blood.
Naaaah??
> ~Could~ she still have Ehrlichia even if multiple tests
> given over a 2 year period were negative?
Could be, but not likely.
> Has anyone else ever had a normally rock-steady
> dog tremble for no real reason?
Yeah. MOST of your pals here have "rock-steady" dogs
who likeWIZE have STRESS INDUCED PSYCHOGENIC
SEIZURES.
> She was also having reverse-sneeze fits for a week but they have
subsided
> since it stopped raining here, constantly.
That was probably an allergy.
> I had her on Amoxicillin just in case she had a respiratory
> tract/ear infection and the 'sneezes' coincidentally stopped.
That's ABSURD and it's IDOCY.
> Part of me wants to haul her *back* to the vet but he usually says
> not to bring her in because he realizes that I've developed "excessive
> worry and anxiety syndrome" after the old dog died and 99% of the time,
> it's just me freaking out over nothing.
Naaaah?
> I don't know if this is significant, but she's been "wary" in the back
> yard after possibly seeing a s**** crawling under the house.
> [the neighbor killed a 6 foot black s**** last week, very near my house]
> Whereas she formerly ran and played with abandon, now she jumps if her
> nose accidentally pokes something like a pointy
> piece of grass and she and her half-sister both keep going back to where
> they saw the s**** and investigating it in a very nervous and jumpy
> manner.
Gee, you think she may be AFRAID?
> [nobody was bitten but I suppose dogs have an innate dislike/fear of
> s****s and they want to make sure it's gone]
Of curse, you could EXXXTINGUISH her FEARS NEARLY
INSTANTLY simply by PRAISING her when she shakes or
acts afraid or suspiciHOWES and briefly, variably alternately,
non physically distracting and INSTANTLY praising her for
five to fifteen seconds if she continues.
But that'd diminish your ability to use her as a MuncHOWESEN
BY PROXY surrogate, wouldn't it, salamander??
> I'm sorry this rambles so but I'm very worried and hope someone
> can tell me I'm just being overly-anxious yet again.
Could be, eh??
> Thanks for your time,
You're welcome. AGAIN <{}: ~ ( >
> Salamander
INTERFACE BETWEEN VESTIBULAR DYSFUNCTION AND ANXIETY:
MORE THAN JUST PSYCHOGENICITY.
HOWEDY spot aka celeste you pathetic miserable
stinkin lyin animal murderin MENTAL CASE, and
of curse you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
veterinary OBS****ATIONIST bugF'nNUTS,
"Spot" <noSPA...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
message news:FrxWh.1560$Zm.408@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I didn't want to alarm you but my Brandy went down hill really fast once
> she went full blown with this.
THAT'S curiHOWES, spot. Accordin to the literature
symptoms GO AWAY a few days after onset <{}'; ~ ) >
> The vet felt that as quickly as she went down hill that it was
definately
> a brain tumor.
THAT'S curiHOWES, spot. There seems to be a
lotta THAT goin arHOWEND here abHOWETS <{}: ~ ( >
> For the two month this was full blown it wasn't too bad.
THAT SO, spotty?
> The occasional stumble, the droopy face, then she lost all feeling in
the
> one side of her face and actually was biting through her lip.
Well spotty, what'd you EXXXPECT? NUTHIN'S CHANGED.
> I was careful to keep her eyes moist and to make sure she ate and I
> cleaned her mouth out with a wet paper town when done because she'd get
> food stuck in her gums. In the end I came home from work one day to fine
> her hardly able to walk and really in bad shape. She went from hardly
> walking to curled in a ball for two days then finally to completely
> paralyzed and she had no idea who we were.
Oh? Was you a DIFFERENT spot, *THEN*, celeste?
We'll get back to you later, spotty...
> "buglady" <buglad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:cwpWh.3781$j63.187@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Spot" <noSPA...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:t6oWh.764$sb.459@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
One of the side effects is the
>> inability to blink. When this happened with Brandy we had to keep
>> ointment in her eye and I actually would move her eye lid a couple
times
>> a day to keep the eye from drying out.
>> .....Yeah, after reading about it, I made sure I kept checking her
eyes.
>> She actually closed her eyes and tried to sleep so I knew she could
close
>> them. Vet told me that there was a dog in there that was much much
worse
>> than mine, couldn't blink, tongue was sort of hanging out and dog
>> couldn't drink or eat.
>> It's my impressioin that the variety called idiopathic is transitory,
>> brain tumors much worse.
>> buglady take out the dog before replying
INTERFACE BETWEEN VESTIBULAR DYSFUNCTION
AND ANXIETY:
MORE THAN JUST PSYCHOGENICITY.
Otology & Neurotology. 22(3):426-427, May 2001.
Current Opinion in Neurology. 14(1):41-46, February 2001.
Jacob, Rolf G. a; Furman, Joseph M. b
Abstract:
Anxiety and dizziness are co-morbid symptoms in a larger
percentage of patients than would be expected from chance
alone. Such patients have an increased handicap and poorer
prognosis. In this review, we discuss the interface between
vestibular disorders and anxiety disorders.
The two conditions are functionally related via both
somatopsychic and psychosomatic mechanisms, and are
linked via overlapping neural circuits that include
monoaminergic pathways and the parabrachial nucleus
network. An alternative conceptualization to the
common notion of 'psychogenic' dizziness is presented.
Implications for patient management are discussed.
(C) 2001 Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, Inc.
Türkiye Klinikleri ANA SAYFA SON SAYI GEÇMIS SAYILAR English
Year: 2005 Volume: 1 No:40
is There A Common Neurological Background Of
The Vestibular And Anxiety/panic Disorders?
Dr. Fethi IDIMANa
aNöroloji AD, Dokuz Eylül Üniversitesi Tip Fakültesi, IZMIR
The most frequent and im****tant symptom of vestibular
disorders is vertigo, and in attacks, anxiety and panic
disorders have been associated with vertigo in about 40-
50% of the patients. It has been suggested that interface
between vestibular dysfunction and anxiety is more than
just psychogenicity.
Recently, neurological basis for balance-anxiety /
panic disorders have been investigated in many studies.
Neuroanatomical basis, pharmacological links, the
relation****ps of neurotransmitters and therapeutical
efforts for the vestibular system and anxiety/panic
disorders have been evaluated in many re****ts.
The present study is a review about neuroanatomical and
neuropharmacological correlates of vestibular system and
anxiety/panic disorders.
Keywords: Vestibular system,vertigo, anxiety/panic
disorders, otonomical manifestations
Turkiye Klinikleri J Int Med Sci 2005, 1(40):57-61
Antidepressants and dizziness
Renato T. Ramos
University of São Paulo Medical School, São Paulo, Brazil
Despite several evidences sup****ting a close relation****p
between dizziness and anxiety symptoms, the role of anti-
depressants in the treatment of such conditions remains
poorly explored. The high prevalence of dizziness during
s*****onin reuptake inhibitors discontinuation syndrome and
the few re****ts suggesting efficacy of antidepressants in
treating some vestibular disorders justify a careful
investigation.
Neurophysiologic studies suggest possible focus of
investigation on mechanisms of drug action. Psychophysiologic
studies also suggest a possible role of antidepressant
drugs in improving balance control and cognitive functioning.
Controlled studies involving antidepressants with selective
action in different neurotransmitters systems are necessary
to elucidate the complex pathophysiologic mechanisms involving
emotional and balance control. For future researches, special
attention must be paid to the methodology of balance evaluation
and the interaction between posture control and cognitive
functioning.
Key Words: dizziness . antidepressants .
balance control . vestibular testing . anxiety
Subject: Head Tilt In Dogs
HOWEDY Doc,
JGW wrote:
> >> 1. how to distinguish a central cause from a peripheral cause
>
> > Look for deficits that suggest central cause, i.e. seizures, facial
> > nerve deficits, propriaceptive deficits in the limbs.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard relies on POSTED CASE HISTORY
DATA to DIEagnose heelth and behavior problems, Doctor <{) ; ~ ) >
> Thanks. Hard to check proprioception because she couldn't stand. She
had
> worsening of an underlying Horner's and her tongue tended to deviate to
> the side of the head tilt.
The "head tilt" was probably "wobbler's DIS-EASE" as
was the likely CAUSE of the "Homer's Syndrome" aka
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka
The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <{) ' ~ ) >
"Horner's syndrome is associated with damage to the
sympathetic innervation to the eye. The damage may
have numerous causes, and may occur anywhere along
the course of the nerve's route from the brain to
the eye. Thus Horner's syndrome may be associated
with (strictly in anatomical sequence - not probability)
brain tumours, spinal cord injury in the neck, thoracic
tumours such as lymphosarcoma, injuries to the neck
from fighting, choke collar injury or difficult venipuncture,
middle ear infections, and viral, immune mediated or
idiopathic neuropathies."
> >> 2. if it's going to improve, by what time do you typically start
to
> >> see signs of beginning improvement?
> > Depends on causation.
The CAUSE is STRESS and TRAUMA from traditional handling
and training methods. We can DISCUSS that if you LIKE <{) ; ~ ) >
> > If it's true idopathic vestibular syndrome, usually improvement is
> > noted in a couple of weeks.
There AIN'T NO SUCH THING as "IDIOPATHIC" NUTHIN.
HERE'S HOWE COME your dogs are DYIN from STRESS
INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's
Syndrome <{}: ~ ( >
HOWEDY spot,
From: "Spot" <NoSpa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 Subject:
Re: How Do I Handle Her?
> I have always used a no-pull halter
That's a choking harness, spot. Dogs DON'T LIKE
GETTIN CHOKED no matter HOWE you call it, spot.
> and it works like a charm.
It HURTS and INTIMDIATES your dog and teaches IT
to FEAR you HURTING HIM someMOORE, spot.
> You can find them at Walmart sometimes and most any pet store will carry
> them.
Yeah. But you won't find ANY intelligent kindly dog owners
using them, spot. ONLY DOG ABUSERS HURT INTIMDIATE
and MURDER innocent critters and try to get HOWET callin
THAT, trainin.
> It's a collar the 2 D rings at the bottom and a Yshaped piece at the
top.
> There are 2 other padded strips of cording where you slide one under
each
> leg from the top Y connector and attach to the individual D rings below.
> The top piece of these slide through the Y at the top and leash attaches
> to the top. Basically when the dog pulls it tightens and puts pressuer
> under the legs.
And they LIKE THAT, do they, spot?
> The dogs don't like the pressure
Ohhh. HOWE COME?
> and it throws them off balance as they pull harder.
And that's to teach the dog to naturally want to be with
you every place you go, is that correct, spot?
> They soon learn not to pull.
That so, spot?
Your dog AIN'T PULLIN on accHOWENT of you're HURTING
HIM. Take off your choking harness and your dog will pull.
Take off your leash and your dog will RUN HOWET ON YOU
on accHOWENT of you're a dog abusing punk thug coward
mental case.
REMEMBER, spotty?
> I had tried everything out there to walk Barney
You mean you TRIED EVERY THING TO HURT YOUR DOG, spot.
> and nothing else would ever work.
Oh. THAT'S on accHOWENT of there AIN'T NO APUPRIATE
WAY TO HURT and INTIMIDATE your dog, spot. THAT'S
HOWE COME DOGS GO NUTS and GET DEAD, spot.
> He would constantly pull me
On accHOWENT of you was CONSTANTLY
TRYING TO CHOKE HIM, spot.
> once I found these halters the whole walking experience was a joy.
That so?:
"The dogs don't like the pressure and it
throws them off balance as they pull harder."
> Celeste
And THAT'S HOWE COME your dog GOT a "BRAIN TUMOR".
> At that point we chose to give her peace.
You mean you MURDERED her you freakin dog abusin ignorameHOWES.
> I hope your dog is ok and that it's nothing as bad as Brandy was.
"My one dog Brandy was abused by her former owner
She too often stayed back out of the way either
in another room or at the edge of the current one
just looking and observing. Eventually as she got
up her confidence and trust in me she started
following me around."
You mean, when you wasn't jerkin chokin an shockin her, spot?:
Re: Anti-bark collar?
HOWEDY spot,
Spot wrote:
> Like Marie says
marie is a lying dog abusing MENTAL CASE like
yourself, spot. marie's dog Macula has attacked
innocent passersbye and is no longer welcome to
join her pals in their dog walking club and marie
just wrote in last week abHOWET her dog Macula's
EXXXCESSIVE BARKING followed by ****in in her
HOWES <{); ~ ) >
> they are a great training tool
That so? HOWE COME IT DIDN'T WORK for marie?
> and should be used as such.
You're a dog abusing mental case, spot. You HURT and
INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs and LIE abHOWET it.
> I purchased the PetSafe Deluxe Big Dog Trainer at www.petco.com
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
> It is not automatic like some collars that go off when the dog barks.
> With this there is a remote that you control. The idea is to give a
> verbal correction
You mean scold threaten and intimidate...
> followed by a tone.
MOORE scolding threatening and intimidating...
> If that does not work after you tone the dog once or twice
You mean, there's NO METHOD?
> you then have the option of giving it an stimulation
You mean a medical grade static like stimulation.
> from levels of 1 to 10 depending upon the dogs reaction.
Dogs GO INSANE from gettin shocked, spot.
> I initially bought it due to her flipping out over a neighbor shoveling
> snow.
You mean you got THE SAME PROBLEM.
> After she was spooked by this she thought that every time she went out
> she had to take barking fits regardless of the time of day or night.
She was AFRAID.
So you HURT her.
> Like yourself I don't want my neighbors pissed off at me
You're a VERY nice lady.
> and with our hours it's not unusual to take her out at 3 am.
Yeah...
> I found that in less than 2 days with a small amount of stimulation she
> learned what quiet ment.
That so?
> I also found that her prey drive is high and used the collar to break
her
> of bunny chasing.
That so?
> The first time she got away from me before I knew what was going on.
The
> next morning I was waiting for her and she barely got around the fence
and
> to the back corner before I left her have it at level 10.
You could train your dog not to chase bunnys by PRAISING her.
> This may seem cruel to some people
Not to HOWER dog lovers...
> but if it means when I yell stop that she does
If you TRAINED her NOT TO DO THAT you WOULDN'T
NEED to SHOCK her when she doesn't stop when you yell stop...
> it's worth that little bit she had to endure.
That so?
> Just yesterday she started down my drive way barking at the neighbor.
See?
> I yelled Lady stop and back she came.
You got LUCKY.
> She wasn't even wearing the collar.
BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!
> I rarely put it on her now.
Right...
> Celeste
"micha el" <spam_yurs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
news:yIydnZpPsIzg6l_d4p2dnA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what
it felt like to me when I got shocked by
Hope's collar.
It felt like a bomb going off in my
hand and forearm.
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"Tricia9999" <tricia9...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> how effective are these electronic fences in keeping a dog on a
>> property????
Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
too scared to go out in the yard anymore.
Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
because the dog got caught right in the path of
the shock and will now not go near his person,
won't go outside.
Just hides under a desk in the house.
------------------------
"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.
"I know this is a hard subject to bring up without
starting the whole cruelty thread again so I'll
state my opinion once and won't defend it further:
any method can be cruel for some dogs.
Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the
beginning, but we've come a long way since then.She trusts
us now as I mentioned in a recent post. Point is, she's been
rewarded for coming, but she's never been punished, even in
the mildest way, for not coming.
Is it time for that?
What might I look for to tell?"
"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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After talking with the vet yesterday and watching
Cubbe all day today, I'm convinced that the shaking
is behavioral, not physical. Naturally I'll continue
keeping an eye on her, but when I add everything
up, I don't see symptoms of anything neurological--
and the vet agrees.
--Lia
"J1Boss" <j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> He was next to me and I could see his neck muscles pulsing. He didn't
> even blink an eye. Janet Boss
"sionnach" <rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "J1Boss" <j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:20040323173916.10096.00001938@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher than a 5 with it, even with
an
> > > insensitive dog like a Lab.
An INSENSITIVE DOG???
> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but I had apointer
ignore
> > a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.
From: ThePetAlchem...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
3 Jul 2005 20:15:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Anti-bark collar?
HOWEDY spot,
Spot wrote:
> Like Marie says
marie is a lying dog abusing MENTAL CASE like
yourself, spot. marie's dog Macula has attacked
innocent passersbye and is no longer welcome to
join her pals in their dog walking club and marie
just wrote in last week abHOWET her dog Macula's
EXXXCESSIVE BARKING followed by ****in in her
HOWES <{); ~ ) >
> they are a great training tool
That so? HOWE COME IT DIDN'T WORK for marie?
> and should be used as such.
You're a dog abusing mental case, spot. You HURT and
INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs and LIE abHOWET it.
> I purchased the PetSafe Deluxe Big Dog Trainer at www.petco.com
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
> It is not automatic like some collars that go off when the dog barks.
> With this there is a remote that you control. The idea is to give a
> verbal correction
You mean scold threaten and intimidate...
> followed by a tone.
MOORE scolding threatening and intimidating...
> If that does not work after you tone the dog once or twice
You mean, there's NO METHOD?
> you then have the option of giving it an stimulation
You mean a medical grade static like stimulation.
> from levels of 1 to 10 depending upon the dogs reaction.
Dogs GO INSANE from gettin shocked, spot.
> I initially bought it due to her flipping out over a neighbor shoveling
> snow.
You mean you got THE SAME PROBLEM.
> After she was spooked by this she thought that every time she went out
> she had to take barking fits regardless of the time of day or night.
She was AFRAID.
So you HURT her.
> Like yourself I don't want my neighbors pissed off at me
You're a VERY nice lady.
> and with our hours it's not unusual to take her out at 3 am.
Yeah...
> I found that in less than 2 days with a small amount of stimulation she
> learned what quiet ment.
That so?
> I also found that her prey drive is high and used the collar to break
her
> of bunny chasing.
That so?
> The first time she got away from me before I knew what was going on.
The
> next morning I was waiting for her and she barely got around the fence
and
> to the back corner before I left her have it at level 10.
You could train your dog not to chase bunnys by PRAISING her.
> This may seem cruel to some people
Not to HOWER dog lovers...
> but if it means when I yell stop that she does
If you TRAINED her NOT TO DO THAT you WOULDN'T
NEED to SHOCK her when she doesn't stop when
you yell stop...
> it's worth that little bit she had to endure.
That so?
> Just yesterday she started down my drive way barking at the neighbor.
See?
> I yelled Lady stop and back she came.
You got LUCKY.
> She wasn't even wearing the collar.
BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!
> I rarely put it on her now.
Right...
> Celeste
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAA!!!
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