HOWEDY pfoley you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
lyin dog abusing punk thug coward active acute chronic
life-long incurable malignant maliciHOWES mental case,
"pfoley" <pfoley6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "bullielover" <none@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> I have a 4year old male bull terrier and just got a 8week old female
>> bullie terrier, I took her out in the backyard when we got her home to
>> say hello to our male, i was holding her and my male was just smelling
>> her didnt look like he was going to do anything, as soon as i put her
>> down he attacked her, so i took her inside the next day i had her in
>> the laundry and let them get use to each other that way through the
>> screen door and he was trying to attack her through the door.
>> When he does get angry i do let him know that it's wrong to attack
>> her and i say pretty loud at him " no! be nice".
THAT'S HOWE COME he ATTACKS her.
>> I don't know what too do, has any one had this same problem and
>> can they help? i dont want to get rid of the female but if he doesnt
>> stop trying to attack her i'm going to have too.
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Here's pfoley's SUCCESS story:
> I think I would be concerned for the safety of the puppy.
But of curse. Dog abusers like you bums and cesar milan 'z dog
wheesperer' always use the EXXXCUSE that they're AFRAID
for the safety of someWON or someTHING to justify HURTIN INTIMIDATIN an
MURDERIN innocent defenseless dumb critters:
From Frank to lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn:
"How fricken sick do you need to be to say a dog chooses to be
shocked or pronged or shot in the ass with a sling shot?
Chooses it over what?
Are you twisted pieces of human refuse offering a dog a selection
of torture devices, and observing them indicating their personal
preference of pain infliction?
I thought the whole idea behind aversion training was that the
subject does not choose it.
You Lynn thinking people are a bunch of abusive idiots. *YOU*
choose to hurt dogs. Fine. But the fact that you want to sell the
idea that the dogs that god and human society have entrusted,
have gifted to you, are actually empowered by your abuse, is an
example of sociopathic illogic beyond anything this ng has yet offered.
You're like some fricken wife beater who actually says "Don't make
me hit you, *****!" What part of what backwoods ****tion of which
idiot nation do you people reside in? THE DOG CHOOSES?
What is next?
we have so far
1. I hurt dogs to save their lives.
2. I hurt dogs to save people's lives.
3. I hurt dogs to accomodate their choice in being hurt.
Just hurt the dogs and don't try to explain it. Please, you're
scaring me with this stuff. No wonder why you guys get so
bent out of shape when others speculate as to your
motivation behind hurting dogs.
Their speculation seems more plausable then what you yourself offer.
You're so sick, so drunk with your "tools" of power, that you don't even
see the abusive egoism in your explanations. You people are way far
gone. It will be 20 years before you'll be embarrassed or ashamed
by what you write in here daily."
> This could be an ongoing problem and it is easier to sell a pup
> than a grown dog.
That so, pfoley? Would your hero cesar milan recommend
GETTIN RID OF the problem dog or would he recommend
takin IT HOWET for five miles of EXXXORCISE a few
times a day and jerkin an chokin an shockin IT to teach IT
who's boss?
> My friend had an older Golden Retriever and then purchased a
> Sheltie puppy. One day without any provocation in her back yard,
> the Golden viciously attacked the puppy.
Naaaah??
> My friend had to put the water hose on the Golden to force her
> to let go. The Golden had never had any type of behavior problems
> before. She brought the Sheltie to the vet to be treated and sewn up
> and when he was healed, she sold the pup.
Despite all your EXXXPERT advice, pfoley?
> It could be that the older dog does not want any competition;
That's INSANE.
> and just wants to be the only dog.
THAT'S SHEER IDIOCY.
Dogs are PACK critters, if you remember.
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice
Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.
I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.
I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:
whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.
The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).
You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.
As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine you may find my resume
in Who's Who in Science and Technology I have been listed
in Who's Who in the S & SE USA since 1982, and in the big
books, Who's Who in the USA, WW in the World, WW in
Medicine etc, and WW in Science and Technology, since that date.
These are the Marquis Publications, the "real" WW, and
you can't get yourself into them.
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"Linda" <llindaleedan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in message news:
I have been trying for the last 18 months to help my
dog who became fear aggressive at 18 month of age.
I do not know what started the problem but he came
aggressive first with dogs and then began lunging and
snapping at people. Until this time he loved everyone
and could play with any dog. He was well socialized
ad I took him with me everywhere.
At 13 months he passed the Canine Good Citizens
Test except he could let me leave him. I had used
clicker training to teach him manners and tricks but
it was not working on his aggression problem.
I took him to vets who suggested a low protein diet,
trainers who charged $800 to only make him worse.
They tried to use a prong collar and he froze, urinated
and tried to climb on my head to help him. they then
suggested a shock collar I knew this approach was not
working as he was becoming more aggressive.
I took him to an animal behaviorist with Ph. D. 400 miles
away who told me to "KEEP HIM SAFE" and read a book
on the fearful canine. I tried another trainer who tried to
use a nylon chock collar but it only made him worse.
I read hundreds of books,"CULTURE CLASH", "DOG
ARE FROM NEPTUNE", "THE OTHER END OF THE
LEASH", ETC looking for help. We finally went to Purdue
University Small Animal Behavior Clinic and they said he
had fear aggression, punishment would not work, use the
gentle leader and when out walking and he got stressed
have the people stop until he could get in control using
treats, and work on clicker training.
At that point I knew more about clicker training and using
the gentle leader than they did! Nothing was working--he
would not come when I called him and would run away when
I tried to catch him. I was afraid to walk him even in the
neighborhood as we had become that "mean dog and women
who hasn't trained her dog"
I went to four trainers in both Michigan and Florida who
were trainer/specialists in aggression and the last two
were so afraid of him they could not approach him. No one
said I should give up on him and kill him but they would
say "You have to realize he is dangerous and you are
responsible for him."
*(You got LUCKY, Linda... They coulda got Sun****ne
DEAD on us. Damned near did... too.)
As last resort I tried the internet again--I had had on
going discussions with trainers from Triple Crown and Dr
Meister with out any help-and I found the ad to Doggy Do
Right and messaged Jerry to ask if this might help my dog.
He said solving the aggression problem was EZ but I could
not believe him even when I downloaded the manual.
The name of the method was right I was at my Wits End.
I had been working for 18 months!
Using the can sound three time he came, and still comes
from anywhere with the command-"comegoodboy" Next
I tried the can when walking him--when he saw a dog three
blocks away he went off-lunging and snapping-I used the
can sound and he looked at me like uhn?
I used it three more times and we got to the other dog-
-the looked at me wagging his tail--the other person
looked at me like why are shaking that can but just walked
on by.
When ever I try to explain about the sound people look at
me like "you must be out of your mind"
The results can make a believer!!!
Three weeks since beginning the Wits End Training
Manual program I walked him without the gentle leader
in a busy shopping area with many dogs.
He just seemed to not notice any one.
When people talked to him or ask his name he would
look at then and wag his tail and let then pet him.
I still can not believe the change in him--we can now
enjoy life out in public.
If I had not found the Wits End method I know there
was no hope for him and he would have hurt someone
Through all this he never growled at me, guarded his
toys or food or showed any sign of aggression with me.
My goal is to get the message out to all dog lovers that
dogs can be trained fast, easily and problems solved with
out force, pain, food or anything but sound and praise!!!!
I know most people would have given up on him a long time
ago but he was and is my life. Solving the problem was EZ
but only with the right approach-sound and praise.
I know because I tried everything else and nothing worked!!!
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From: Linda Daniel
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: - Re: dog aggression
Thanks for writing--I would be happy to do almost anything
to get your approach out to dog owners as I know it would
save so many lives. I know at times I was so frustrated I
thought of giving up on Sun****ne but of course I never would
have but many people would have. The world just does not
know you can train a dog in just a few sessions and actually
solve problems.
We will be here until late April and we really have no plans-
-just to enjoy the warmth and sun of Florida, so any time
you could meet us would be great. I drive so I would be
happy to come to you anytime anywhere!
We went to Celebration today and two little poodles got
right into his face and he just sat there--I GOT a little
scared but he handled it just fine.--a couple of times people
would ask his name and want to pet him and he just went
to them tail wagging and rolled over for them rub his tummy.
He really just is not concerned about people passing, even
those on rollerblades! I have always used a gentle leader
in public but he spent most of time rubbing his face on the
grass--today I used his collar and he was so much happier!!
Only problem is he will stop to smell and I can not get
stopped soon enough to keep the leash loose. He never
pulled ahead of me but when he gets into smelling I have
a hard time getting him going--at times I think he could
smell a blade of grass for 10 minutes.
I can never thank you enough for giving Sun****ne back!!!!!
I wrote to Purdue and told them about him being able to
walk in a crowd with out the /gentle leader and not having
a problem with other people and dogs.
I told them their advice did not work. Their advice was
to use the gentle leader at all times and when he was
around people or dogs to have him sit and reward with
treats--one really good suggestions was to have people
coming toward us stop when he got stressed or aroused
and not move until we backed away-
- can you just see me yelling at people to stop on the street
until I get his attention with treats.
They also suggested the possibility of using drugs-prozac-
but thought he was too dangerous as the drug would make
him less fearful and then he might attack or become more
sure of himself and become dominate aggressive. Just had
to share their great advice with you but I am sure you have
heard it all--even I am becoming an expert on bad advice.
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" <Ama...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> > This makes me wonder. If the dog taught himself to get
> > the kid off of it by biting, why can't you teach it another
> > method. When my dog nipped to protect my kids, i taught
> > her with distraction and praise.
>
> What did you teach her to do instead of nipping?
First we used distraction and praise to teach her biting is
not ok. 2 weeks ago we had to seperate her from the puppy
in order to feed them.
She would run over, bite him then take his food. If he
licked the carpet where juice was spilled he got bitten.
just examples.
Then during meals, when she moved toward him we
(me, my husband, jerry and his wife) used sound distraction
and praise. We trained her to stay away from him. Then we
let them get close, when she looked like she was thinking of
biting (snap) good girl! good dog... and she would let him
close. since he advanced to eating her food she began
laying down and allowing him tot ake over. so we taught her
to find his food and eat his.
Just doing this has taught her to share.
If he's too roudy and the kids aren't inviting..
she will find her rope and give it to him. if he
takes her kong, she does and finds his and either gets him
to take his own king or simply lets him have his.
we did this by feeding her as much as she wanted, giving
her plenty of toys. we taught her there is always more..
we broke that instinct of self preservation. now they share
from the same bowl. not even a growl.
then when she growled because my friends kid went near her
while she was nursing, we put her on lead just long enough
to come 1 foot from the kid. just in case. we put the kid
on the floor in her mum's lap with the puppy and used
distraction and praise if she seemed upset. then when she
went near the kid in a fa****on like she was going to protect
something.. the kids, their food what have you..
we used praise and distraction.
then it progressed to the other day.. the kid was smacking
kelly in the face. pummeling beyond all belief she has taken
from my own kids.. like if the 23 lb 19 month old goes to
stand on her, kelly will brace herself and hold still so the
baby doesn't fall off.
when the baby stands on her we distract the baby and praise
kelly for waiting. so anyway.. she's being smacked in the
face by the same kid who likes to try and dig eyeballs out.
kelly snarled her lip.. no sound.. just showed her teeth...
sound and praise! and she broke her thought and came over
to me.
when the puppy was biting her so hard she cried (pits
dont cry easily) we used sound and praise when she went to
defend herself. then we would go to him and distract him
off. in less than a week she learned to either a. drag him
to me or my husband still attached and shaking her
ear/neck/leg or b. distract him herself.
she sees us use distraction and gentle measures and she
does them too. when he's trying to dig a hole she engages
him in play. when the kid is going somewhere she shouldn't..
kelly will run over to her.. and seperate the kid from say
the kitchen and guide her in another direction.
when the puppy is biting something he shouldn't.. she finds
a kong and offers him the appropriate chewing method.
Dogs are smart. She only knew to nip or growl or bite.
We taught her gentle ways and she learned them.
Dogs don't want to bite kids or puppies or people.. but
they want results. if they know the food will never run
out.. why should they bite over food? if they know someone
else will distract a biting pup why would she bite him?
all she has to do is find me and i will do it... why does
she need to nip the lil kid again?
she knows i will stop the kid from hurting her. yes it still
requires alot of supervision, because this kid does in fact
hurt her alot and she is not part of our pack. but that is
part of my responsibility as well.
Jerry calls it allomimetic behaviour.. i think its plain logic.
the dog won't bite if it knows a whimper or cry will attract help.
but if no one else is in control... as we were not two weeks ago..
the dog will take matters into its own hands.
And for Donna who asked how safe setting up an incident is?
it is very safe. If you know the dog will bite the kid if
it goes near its food.. you put the dog on lead and have
someone hold the lead securely. MAKE SURE the lead
will not reach say.. 1.5 feet away from the food dish.
then let the kid go near the food. the dog couldn't reach if
it tried, and if it did you are right there to priase distract.
It is much more difficult in the OP's situation since the
kid is close enough to bite. i'll let jerry elaborate on that.
and i wouldn't try that without his advice. but if you know
your dog likes to lunge through the front door at the
mailman.. put the dog on lead and open the door and use
praise/distraction.. the dog won't go anywhere, but you can
set it up to stop the thought. it's really a common sense
thing.
i knew i needed to set up a situation and knew i
couldn't risk a bite.. so i used a freaking leash that
wasn't long enough to reach the lil kid. voila. by the
time the dog realized it wanted to do something bad.. it
forgot it was on lead... and you distract/praise and break
the behaviour before the dog is mid lunge at the end of the
leash.
Amanda
Whose vicious, aggressive, hopeless pit bull who should be
watched carefully walked by a barking dog who was off lead
as it growled at me and heeled immediately to "protect" but
never used more than 1 foot of the lead and didn't bark or
growl back.
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Here's a professional dog trainer of thirty years experience:
From: BNTDO...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
jho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Monday, June 03, 2002 2:22 PM
Subject: Update
Hi Jerry,
Just an update to let you know how things are going.
Hunter is doing really great thanks to you and your
training manual.
I cancelled the appointment with the new vet to get
him re-evaluated for aggression. all weekend long I
had kids run by the fence to try and make him bark.
He didn't!
Tonight we are going to PetsMart to work on his
dog aggression but even that is going good for him.
I have less and less of a problem with him in my
vehicle. He doesn't try so hard to protect
it from the four wheeled monsters that go by.
I think soon I'll be able to leave his window open when
we go down the road and he won't try to jump out at
the cars that go by.
I have shared the manual with several dog owners
that I know and even a group of dog trainers.
Thank you again.
Kay
From: "Jerry Howe" <jho>
To: <BNTDO>
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Update
Have your vet call me if he's interested in behavior.
XXX/OOO. Jerry.
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From: BNTDO...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
jho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always
Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL
GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."
Dear Jerry,
It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that
maligning you and your training manual but tell them
from me that it does work.
Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.
I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over
there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him
for growling at me. I told her to tell him what a good boy he
is instead. Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could
do his nails.
All 4 feet.
My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method
and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten
his enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more
pleased.
He even tried to kiss a child the other day.
Major break through.
This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids
through the fence. I can now take him in the car with me
again without him trying to chase cars through the wind****eld.
So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training
is Do No Harm.
The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first
rule.
Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was
diagnosed aggressive and he is going to stay alive and
by my side where he belongs.
Thank you so much.
Kay
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From: jho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(The Puppy Wizard)
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 06:07:52 -0000
Subject: "Your Method Takes Positive Training To The Next Level
And Should Really Be Used By All Tainers Who Call Themselves
Trainers,"
Kay Pierce.
From: <BNTDO>
To: <jho>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Wits end Training
Jerry,
I started Hunter on his training using your manual
and training method. What a marked difference in
just a few hours.
I had him in my van and just using the sound with
his remote trainer and telling him he's a good dog
when he started looking like he was going to bark
at a car worked great.
He only barked 2 or 3 times. Then I took him to a
spot that we had used years ago to train, Jerry I
have hope that I can have my happy dog back soon.
And not this tense unhappy creature I live with now.
He was so happy today. I am looking forward to
getting the machine so that he can stay that way.
Thank you,
Kay Pierce
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From: <BNTDO>
To: <jho>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:54 PM
Subject: Making Progress
Hello Jerry,
Hunter and I started working the recall and family
pack exercise today. On leash and in the house
he has a perfect recall.
And I think he really started to relax and enjoy
himself I swear he was laughing.
I had taught him to go to the heel position when he
comes to me years ago. And over the past few months
I have had to tell him to go there. Today he flew into
the heel position each and every time without me saying
a word to him about it.
He has never bounced like that before.
I trained him using conventional methods with a choker and
pinch collar. Over the past few days we have been using his
regular collar. I can tell that he enjoys it more.
As I mentioned before I am a dog trainer and when I trained
my latest dog I used all positive reinforcements techniques.
When I trained for that I had been amazed at the results.
Your method takes positive training to the next level and
should really be used by all trainers who call themselves
trainers.
My Hunter is concentrating on me and not on the treat he
thinks he wants. My other dog wants treats before she'll
do anything.
As soon as I get Hunter straightened out she's next.
Thank you so much,
Kay Pierce
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From: <BNTDO>
To: <jho>
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Head Hunter
Dear Jerry,
Just thought I would write to let you know how
well Hunter is doing. He had been trained using
the conventional methods for obedience. He had
gotten used to a choker and a pinch collar.
Alot of pain and a lot of jerking around. I had also
tried using positive reinforcement methods that I
had been trained in. He was so busy looking for
the treat that he didn't really want to work.
So I went back to using the pinch collar on him
and also a gentle leader when we were in public.
Slowly by degrees his behavior got worse and
he did deserve his reputation as a vicious dog.
The vet had recommended that he be put down.
I was in a panic when I found your web site.
Thanks! He is now the happy dog that I first
started out with 5 years ago. I am a professional
trainer and it was distressing to me that I could not
help my own dog. I had been told that some dogs
don't respond to any kind of training and that a
vicious dog can never be trusted again.
I disagree!
Hunter is a sight hound and now I can take him
with me and he doesn't chase cars as much
anymore which is one of his main problems.
We are working on the dog aggression thing.
And I am confident that will be successful too.
I also have your BIOSOUND machine and that
too is working good. I know of several rescue
groups that would benefit from it.
This is rather long I know but it comes from the
heart. My Head Hunter Green and I have together
along time and have been through so much together.
Thank you for helping me save his life.
Kay Pierce
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From: <Caninesanctu>
To: <BNTDO>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: Jerry the jerk howe
Kay if you only knew what a jerk howe is it's either
his way or your wrong no matter what training method
you use. In a post re: adopting a shelter dog he
stated "fu*k Buster" if you want I can refer you to the
post.
He's nothing but a blowhard and if he was closer I
would pay him a visit. He used your post from July
in his rebuttal
Bob Garrett
From: BNTDO...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Caninesanctu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Jerry the jerk howe
I have to strongly disagree that Jerry is a jerk. I am a
dog trainer and I have been for almost 30 years. I
believe strongly in positive reinforcement. My youngest
was trained using treats and praise.
My oldest how ever was not trained that way I am ashamed
to say. The result a very dangerous dog.
He has problems with barrier and dominance aggression. A
year ago he put a hole in my leg that took weeks to heal.
When the vet and all of my friends advocated putting him
down I found Jerry's website. I was looking for a natural
way to calm my dog and train him all over again as well.
You say Jerry is a jerk well I have talked to him on the
phone and consulted him about his training methods.
I really grilled him before I even considered using his
methods.
He loves dogs. Using his methods my Head Hunter is
now a very sweet dog. I get kisses instead of growls.
When he growls or even looks like he is going to bark
I tell him what a good dog he is and right away he shuts
up, looks at me like I'm nuts. But doesn't try to eat anyone.
I am happy to say that the vet thinks I have him on major
drugs. I don't! I still use a muzzle on him when I have to
take him to iffy places. But hey, I know he is now a sugar.
And the most im****tant thing he is happy again.
It's a free country and you are entitled to your opinion.
I have mine.
Sincerely
Kay
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Nevyn writes:
Jerry I cannot even begin to tell you the success Ive had with
your training manual! My two mutts have gone from out-of-
control psychos to obedient well behaved companions within
a matter of weeks! AND My friends have seen the success and
have asked me to work on their dogs! I was working with a 5
month old Ridgeback female today and she was being an angel
after like an hour of working with her!
It is AMAZING!!
I pity those fools who take their dogs to cl***** where the
"Trainers" abuse their dogs! (do they have a degree? A masters?
a Phd? by the way? NO they are average joes off the street who
think they know how to train dogs!)
Once again, Jerry, you are a genius!
NEVYN and my Dogs, Rizzo and Midget, My Grandparents
dogs, Dusty and Snoopy, and my friends pup, Jazz.
From: Nevyn (ali...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Date: 2002-03-01 03:15:50 PST
Hello
I have two mungrel females; the breeds exactly are Blue Heeler
(spots) x Kelpi (dominant genes) x American Pitbull (behavioural)
x Pug (don't laugh!).
They are gentle loving dogs when I'm at home with them, and they
are friendly with unknown people. They are sisters. One is obviously
dominant over the other, and I don't have a problem with that,
however;
Their behaviour is very odd. Some days they are very good whilst
I'm walking them, some days they are not. They are 3 years old
and have only been walking for about 12 months because my mom
didn't walk them and now I'm home so I walk them for about an hour
and half every afternoon.
I take them to the park where they chase birds and swim in the lake.
This is my problem :
The less-dominant dog viscously barks at every other dog we walk
past; I have tried using a stick and giving her a tap when she
does it, and treating her with treats when she doesn't, using a
choke chain, a muzzle and a thing that sprays stuff in her mouth
when she barks.
She won't stop! Does anyone know how I can stop her?
Also, the more-dominant dog seems to know this is WRONG, when
the other dog barks, she doesn't bark, but she nips at the other
dog as if telling her to cut it out, and then the barking one
attacks the more-dominant one and they fight on the leash... it
is quite disturbing to the people walking past.
And also the more-dominant one is okay around other dogs...
SOMETIMES... sometimes she completely ignores them, and yet
other times she will attack them, like yesterday. The less
dominant one I must keep on a leash if a person brings there
dog to the park.
How do I stop them attacking other dogs? I have tried all the
methods I have used above for 10 months every afternoon. Is it
just a pac k-behaviour thing?
It can really be quite embarrassing when your dogs attack
some old lady's or little girl's dog.
They are good dogs, when at home or when there are no other dogs
around. Today there were hundreds of sparrows flying around the park
and they were chasing them and jumping up trying to catch them for
more than 90 minutes (They went straight to bed when I bought them
home!). Can anyone help me? Email me at my emails address,
ali...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
coz this list is tooo crowded.
Thanks,
Nevyn
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Val writes Monday, 6/3/02:
Well, for what it's worth, I am praising without physical
contact and she does seem to listen better than when I
would praise with it. I agree that it is a distraction.
Anyway, no more aggressive behaviors from her since I
started the Witts End.
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