HOWEDY sinofa***** you pathetic miserable stinkin
lyin dog abusin punk thug coward active accute chronic
life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES mental case,
"sionnach" <rhyfelwr59@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Subject: Since we've been discussing agility & body language
Actually we WEREN'T discussin agility at all.
> Commentary in the second video will inform
> you why the handler is completely silent:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzRcQ3SUO8U
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6Qe9maYWy8&feature=related
That's ABSURD. HOWE is the audence bein SILENTgonna
HEELP the dog observe the handler's "body language"?
IT AIN'T.
HOWEver, so long as you're postin to my forums I'd like
to take this op****tunity to IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and
DISCREDIT you by QUOTING your own posted case history:
> HOWEDY sinofa*****,
> "Sionnach" <rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
: news:bvtf67$106jeh$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
: > <yawn> Once again- that's NOT a quote
: > from any post of mine; JH "wrote" it, not me.
:
: No, that's a flat HOWET lie, sinofabich. It's a
: direct quote from YOU, with exception of TWO
: WORDS, "smartly" and "neatly."
:
: > It's quotes from two different posts, by two
: > different people -
:
: ONLY if you're SCHIZOPHRENIC, sinofa*****.
:
: > both taken out of context-
:
: YOU'RE A LIAR.
:
: We got your original post in The Puppy Wizards' Archives.
:
: You'll see your own words EXXXACTLY as QUOTED.
: And we'll likeWIZE see you DENYING your own words
: in three different ways!!!
:
: > and with extra wording added in by a third person.
:
: NO. YOU'RE A LIAR.
:
: The ONLY "extra words," SMARTLY and NEATLY,
: were INDEEDY, added by The Puppy Wizard, HOWEver
: they were NOT SIGNIFICANT, except for poetic license:
:
: You're a liar and a dog abuser and a MENTAL CASE:
:
: "When it was obvious that she had NO intention
: of paying any attention to anything but the other
: dogs (and that I was in danger of having my arm
: dislocated <G>), I didn't even think about it; I
: dropped the leash, threw my right arm over the
: Lab's shoulder, grabbed her opposite foot with
: my left hand, rolled her on her side, leaned on
: her, said "GRRRR!" and nipped her ear (not
: particularly hard- I wasn't trying to *hurt* her,
: just get her attention!)."
:
: From: Sionnach (rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
: Subject: Re: I dropped the leash!
: Date: 2003-12-15 07:55:16 PST
:
: > "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm
: > Over The Lab's Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite
: > Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
: > Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into Her Throat
: > And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her Ear,"
:
: <yawn> That's not a quote written by me, kiddo.
: That's an amalgam of two different people's posts,
: with extra words added by Jerry.
:
: From: Sionnach (rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
: Subject: Re: another question from me and joy?
:
: Date: 2002-04-10 19:40:33 PST
:
: "BethF" wrote:
: >
: > I don't think any of our regulars bite their dogs ears
: > to leash train them.
:
: He's repeating one of Jerry's confabulations... I did,
: once, lightly nip a seriously out-of-control, temper-
: tantruming Labrador on the ear to get her attention.
:
: It had ****-all to do with leash training though, and
: everything to do with getting through to an incredibly
: hard-headed, tough-minded, and spoiled-rotten dog
: that A. she was NOT going to physically control me
: the way she had every other female human she'd dealt
: with and B. that I was worth paying attention to.
:
: It came up in a discussion where someone else
: mentioned having nipped a terrier puppy who
: wouldn't stop play-biting. In both cases, it was a
: one-time instinctive response to an unusual situation.
:
: --------------------
: sinofa***** writes:
: > >> What I have said- repeatedly - is that he
: > >> took posts from two different people,
: > >> took pieces of them out of context,
: > >> cobbled them together,
: > >> then added his own words:
:
: "Neatly," and "Smartly."
:
: > >> and a fake signature.
:
: "sinofa*****" instead of sionnach.
:
: > >> Which is exactly what he did.
: > >> The actual quote is misleading
: > >> when taken out of context, and Jerry's
: > >> faked "quote" is downright meaningless.
: > > Here's Jerry's version
: > > "I Dropped The Leash, Threw My
: > > Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
: > > Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My
: > > Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side,
: > > Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled Into
: > > Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And
: > > Neatly Nipped Her Ear," sinofa*****.
: > > Here's yours;
: > > "I dropped the leash, threw my
: > > right arm over the Lab's shoulder,
: > > grabbed her opposite foot with my
: > > left hand, rolled her on her side,
: > > leaned on her, said "GRRRR!" and
: > > nipped her ear.
: > > --Sara Sionnach
:
: BWEEEAAAHAAHAAHAHAAAA!!!!!
SEE?
HOWEDY sinofa*****,
"sionnach" <rhyfelwr59@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:
5mtrs8FerumfU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Beth In Alaska" wrote:
>
>> I didn't know that little Rocsi was gone.
Like most of HOWER dog lover's dogs Rosci DIED from
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka
The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <{}: ~ ( >
> Since June of last year; lymposarcoma; less than three
> weeks after her 5th birthday. I didn't post about it, for
> a number of reasons.
Yeah. It's EMBARASSING, AIN'T IT <{}: ~ ( >
R.I.P. Rosci <{}:*~ ( >
>> What an awesome little dog.
INDEED?
> She was, indeed.
INDEED:
Stress-induced decline in immune responsiveness in C3H/HeJ
mice:relation to endocrine alterations and tumor growth.
Kandil O, Borysenko M.
Department of Anatomy and Cellular Biology, Tufts
University School of Medicine, Boston, Massachusetts 02111.
We examined the effect of rotation-induced stress on (1) growth of
lymphosarcoma tumors; (2) interleukin-2 (IL-2) production; (3) T cell
subset distribution; and (4) cytotoxic T cell (CTL) function. In
addition, we examined the levels of corticosterone and beta-endorphin
as possible mediators of stress-induced immune alterations. Rotation
stress induced progressive lymphosarcoma growth, while unstressed mice
showed tumor regression after 2 weeks of growth. IL-2 production and
CTL activity in stressed animals were significantly lower than
controls during the first 2 weeks after initiation of stress. Spleen
lymphocytes from stressed and control mice bearing the L3T4 antigen
(helper/inducer T cell marker) remained unchanged, while in peripheral
blood such cells decreased in stressed but not control animals. This
latter pattern was also observed in Lyt 2 positive (suppressor/
cytotoxic) cells of both spleen and peripheral blood. Corticosterone
levels were elevated for an extended period following initiation of
stress, while beta-endorphin levels remained similar to those of the
controls. Although these data do not directly establish a causal link
between immunoinhibition and tumor growth, they clearly demonstrate
that stress inhibits a number of cell-mediated immune functions that
may be relevant in this regard.
Psychological depression and 17-year risk of death from cancer
RB Shekelle, WJ Raynor Jr, AM Ostfeld, DC Garron, LA
Bieliauskas, SC Liu, C Maliza and O Paul
Psychological depression, measured in 1957-1958 by the Minnesota
Multiphasic Personality Inventory at the baseline examination of 2,020
middle-aged employed men, was associated (p less than 0.001) with a
twofold increase in odds of death from cancer during 17 years of
follow-up.
The association did not vary appreciably in magnitude among
the early (1958-1962), middle (1963-1968), and later (1969-1974)
years of follow-up, persisted after adjustment for age, cigarette
smoking, use of alcohol, family history of cancer, and occupational
status, and was apparently not specific to any particular site or type
of cancer.
This result, predicted in advance on the basis of findings by other
investigators, is consistent with the hypothesis that psychological
depression is related to impairment of mechanisms for preventing
the establishment and spread of malignant cells.
------------------------
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
"J1Boss" <j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> He was next to me and I could see his neck
> muscles pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye.
> Janet Boss
"sionnach" <rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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> "J1Boss" <j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:20040323173916.10096.00001938@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I can't imagine needing anything higher
> than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
> dog like a Lab.
I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
I had a pointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.
Jerking choking and shockin and lockin dogs
in boxes and ignoring their cries makes their
dogs go "EWWWW" but they don't NOTICE
EXXXCEPT to spray BINACA in their eyes
and jerk and choke them on pronged spiked
pinch choke collars and shock and spray MOORE
aversives in their faces.
Do you think the citronella collar is CRUEL cause
the SMELL LINGERS after the dog's been sprayed
in the face and the dog won't know HOWE COME
IT was MACED?
> > My dogs are not human children wearing
> > fur- they are DOGS.
They're DUMB ANIMALS these MENTALLY ILL
LYING DOG ABUSERS HURT and MURDER.
LIKE THIS:
From: sionnach (rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Correct use of prong collar
Date: 2001-05-05 13:03:14 PST
> And Sally responded:
> > Who said that? I would never do or recommend
> > that, and neither would most of the regulars
> > on here.
> >Sally Hennessey
> I've posted my entire quote, since Patch failed
> to do so. Take it out of context and you'd think
> I was flinging puppies across the room!
> here's what I said (keep in mind that we're
> talking about a 12 week old ~25# FCR puppy):
> A small scruff shake is appropriate if he's very persistant.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Um, may I suggest a re-wording that might make
it clearer- given that "scruff shake" is too easily
misinterpreted as "pick the puppy up by the scruff
of the neck and shake the puppy in the air"?
I think I'd phrase it something like "if the puppy
is very persistant, it can be appropriate to take
hold of the loose skin at the back of the neck and
give a slight shake to the *skin*".
Janet's not talking about actually shaking
the puppy, which I think we ALL agree is
abusive."
----------------------
"After Numerous Training Cl*****, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness," mustang sally.
"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me.
I volunteered as assistant to the euthanasia
tech at our local shelter for a while, and
I know a bit about overpopulation and unwanted
animals.
This however has nothing at all to do with
responsible breeders, because responsible
breeders don't contribute to that problem,"
Mustang Sally.
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001
Subject: Re: shock collars
Sally Hennessey <greyho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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from being incredibly offensive and self-
righteous, this post shows and absence of knowledge
in the differences in dogs' temperaments, or perhaps
a lack of ability to perceive same.
The fact that you, Alison, have never met a dog to
whom corrections and discomfort, even pain, were
unim****tant does not mean that such dogs do not exist.
What it means is that you don't know as much about
dogs as you think you do, and you surely don't know
a damn thing about Harlan or anyone else's dog here.
I had a Dalmatian that would instigate fights with
one of her housemates; that dog had no fear or
anything, and pain incurred during a fight meant
nothing to her.
I know that that dog is not unique, and I'm sure many
people here can tell similar stories. The fact that
you, Alison, continue to say things to people such as
what you said to Theresa about causing her dog to
suffer (at least I guess that's what you meant by
"you cause your dog suffers" - - must be the King's
English you guys talk about over there) means that
you are an ignorant, arrogant, insensitive person
who is not worth further notice.
Sally Hennessey
"Sally Hennessey" <greyho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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Nope. No more than you'd convince Patch that
prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
own dogs and their reactions better than someone
who has never seen them or us...hmmm.
I'm starting to see some similarities here.
Sally Hennessey
---------------
HOWEDY racetrack silly aka disgusted,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
> On 23 May 2005 10:41:59 -0700, TheAmazingPuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >HOWEDY racetrack silly,
> >sighthounds & siberians wrote:
> >> On 21 May 2005 19:23:51 -0700, dinglejingl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >> <major snippage>
> >> I'm neither a trainer nor an expert,
> >RIGHT. But you ARE a mentally ill lying dog abusing punk thug coward
and
> >president of the GH RESCUE that MURDERS 66% of their RESCUE dogs.
> Are you reading this, Lucy? The above is a flat-out lie. Does that
> matter to you at all, or is it OK for Jerry to make up whatever **** he
> wants to 'sup****t' his lunatic claims?
> Mustang Sally (disgusted)
You mean, lunatic lies, like this?:
Mustang Sally, President of the Board
Killing dogs and getting paid for it
(at least her "shelter" gets paid for it)
Sally claims she doesn't or didn't get paid
to kill dogs as the President of the Board
From: sighthounds etc. (greypigho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Not Working in the Shelter :}
Date: 2002-06-26 16:53:21 PST
It probably wouldn't hurt, and a dose of reality
might be helpful, too. I'm president of the board
of our local shelter. The new board has almost
succeeded in pulling the APL out of financial ruin,
and very soon now we'll be able to turn our
attention to making improvements in our shelter,
increasing adoptions, etc.
We are in the largest county in our state, and it's
also one of the poorest. We take in around 3,000
animals a year and euthanize two-thirds of them.
======================
"After Numerous Training Cl*****, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness," racetrack silly.
"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me. I volunteered
as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
unwanted animals.
This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
to that problem," Mustang Sally.
HOWE COME YOU MURDER DOGS
FOR MONEY AN CALL IT RESCUE?
"Sally Hennessey" <greyho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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Nope. No more than you'd convince Patch that
prongs and e-collars, in the right hands, are not
intrinsically abusive; or that dogs trained properly
with prongs or e-collars are not fearful, in pain, or
intimidated; or that any one of us here knows our
own dogs and their reactions better than someone
who has never seen them or us...hmmm.
I'm starting to see some similarities here.
Sally Hennessey
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:23:46 +0100
Local: Mon, Apr 9 2001 5:23 am
Subject: Re: shock collars
Sally Hennessey <greyho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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from being incredibly offensive and self-
righteous, this post shows and absence of knowledge
in the differences in dogs' temperaments, or perhaps
a lack of ability to perceive same.
The fact that you, Alison, have never met a dog
to whom corrections and discomfort, even pain, were
unim****tant does not mean that such dogs do not exist.
What it means is that you don't know as much about dogs
as you think you do, and you surely don't know a damn
thing about Harlan or anyone else's dog here.
I had a Dalmatian that would instigate fights with one
of her housemates; that dog had no fear or anything,
and pain incurred during a fight meant nothing to her.
I know that that dog is not unique, and I'm sure many
people here can tell similar stories. The fact that you,
Alison, continue to say things to people such as what
you said to Theresa about causing her dog to suffer
(at least I guess that's what you meant by "you cause
your dog suffers" - - must be the King's English you
guys talk about over there) means that you are an
ignorant, arrogant, insensitive person who is not worth
further notice.
Sally Hennessey
From: sighthounds etc. <greypigho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:34:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Another Rebellion Stage?
On Wed, 29 May 2002 09:03:13 -0500, Gwen Watson <g...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>> "sighthounds etc." wrote:IMO it is unwise (and ultimately unfair to the
>> dog) to leave something as im****tant (particularly to a breed like a
BC)
>> as exercise and training to someone else (yes, even a spouse, or
perhaps
>> especially a spouse) unless there is proof, in the form of experience,
>> that that someone else will come through. Sally Hennessey
>
> I mostly agree with you Sally about this. Certainly it is ideal for the
> person who owns the dog to be the one exercising and giving mental
> stimulation. But there are times in which a person is not physically
able,
> which apparently seems to be the case, at that point I personally think
it
> would be better to find another individual to help out rather than not
> doing anything at all.
It's true that cir***stances do change, and people
can't do what they could before. Definitely it would
be better for someone to exercise the dog than no
one, and I didn't mean to suggest that if the owner
can't do it, then no one should. I meant that one
should not get a dog requiring lots of exercise and
mental stimulation if one cannot meet those needs.
IOW, Leah shouldn't have gotten a BC with the
understanding that her husband would take care
of the exercise and training needs.
However, Leah said that it was actually her husband
who wanted a BC, and he promised to exercise and
train her. I guess it depends on one's experience;
IME, I'm the one doing the training, so next time my
DH wants a Dalmatian and promises to train it, I won't
believe him.
Sally Hennessey
"My spayed Siberian ***** marks and covers all
over the place, as did my spayed Dalmatian *****.
The Borzoi doesn't, but she is *extremely* submissive."
Sally Hennessey
"Oops, hit "send" too fast. Of course *****es in
season are advertising, so that type of behavior
might be typical of Murphy. And some folks think
that spaying actually increases dominant/aggressive
behavior in *****es that were dominant/aggressive
beforehand, so perhaps marking behavior also
increases in those *****es."
Sally Hennessey
I didn't mean to suggest that we don't love our
poop-eaters; of course, we do. If we were on
that show (The Secret Shame...), we would be
seen frantically dodging leaping Whippets trying
to plant kisses as close as possible to our mouths.
And I will admit that the night Robin barfed up poop,
he spent the night in his crate, not in bed with us.
Just couldn't chance a recurrence.
Sally Hennessey
Sighthounds etc." <greypigho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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that would position himself behind
the Greyhounds and catch...Being a Dal, he
was sometimes a little harder to love to begin
with.
"After Numerous Training Cl*****, Behavioral
Consultations, And Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet
Bills, I Killed My Dalmatian Several Years Ago
Due To Extreme Dog-Aggressiveness."
From: sionnach (rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Correct use of prong collar
Date: 2001-05-05 13:03:14 PST
> And Sally responded:
> >Who said that? I would never do or recommend that, and neither would
> >most of the regulars on here. Sally Hennessey
>
> I've posted my entire quote, since Patch failed to do so. Take it out of
> context and you'd think I was flinging puppies across the room!
> here's what I said (keep in mind that we're talking about a 12 week old
> ~25# FCR puppy): A small scruff shake is appropriate if he's
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ญญ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ very persistant.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Um, may I suggest a re-wording that might make
it clearer- given that "scruff shake" is too easily
misinterpreted as "pick the puppy up by the scruff
of the neck and shake the puppy in the air"?
I think I'd phrase it something like "if the puppy is very
persistant, it can be appropriate to take hold of the
loose skin at the back of the neck and give a slight
shake to the *skin*".
Janet's not talking about actually shaking
the puppy, which I think we ALL agree is
abusive."
"Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:a3h5qn$mra$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Di, I don't believe you mentioned a particular kind of training. If you
> are interested in training retrieval behavior than do consider our own
Amy
> Dahl's: The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a Well- Mannered, Obedient
> and Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl
You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"
"I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A Dog
I Do Not Believe There Is A Single Cir***stance
Ever, Where Slapping A Dog Is Anything But
Destructive," "I don't see why anyone would want
to choke or beat a dog, or how any trainer could
possibly get a good working dog by making them
unhapper, fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying
frosty dahl.
> just $17.95 at Amazon.com. (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
> few regulars here who are either ill-tempered, ill-mannered, or just
plain
> ill.) --Marshall
amy lying frosty dahl continues:
"On the other extreme, the really ard dogs
we have trained require much more frequent
and heavy application of pressure (PAIN j.h.)
to get the job done,
This is continued resistance to your increasing
authority, and the job is not done until it is overcome
Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper wield
the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable
dogs may require you to progress to striking them
more sharply
Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and
the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist!
Eventually, the dog will give in
but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their
efforts to escaping the ear pinch
You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell
instead of your thumb even get a studded collar
and pinch the ear against that
Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so
urgent that resisting your will fades in im****tance.
CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever Ready
Right Hand, As it catches on, try using the stick
and no ear pinch.
When the dog is digging out to beat the stick
and seems totally reliable without any ear pinch,
you are finished
If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly under the chin,
say "No! Hold!"
(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps because
the ear is getting tender, or the dog has decided
it isn't worth it)" lying frosty dahl.
"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
professora gingold.
terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
something you twisted out of context, because you
are full of bizarro manure."
lying frosty dahl sez she doesn't twist:
"None of my posts, prior to or subsequent to
Jerry Howe's attacks, encourage anyone to
twist ears, beat dogs, confront, intimidate,
frighten, or any of the crap he constantly
attributes to me," lying frosty dahl.
BWEEEEAHAHAHHAAA!!!
"Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.
Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies
HURT all their lives like HOWE HOWER dog
lovers PREFER to HURT THEIR DOGS?
"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."
The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.
We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...
Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should
knee the dog in the chest, step on its toes, throw
him down by his ears and climb all over it like a
raped ape growling into his throat and bite IT on
his ears, or leash pop it on a pronged spiked pinch
choke collar or pop him in the snout with the heel
of your palm.
"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
"Rocky" <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> > When you compare using sound and
> > praise to solve a problem with using
> > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
> > how can you criticize the use of sound?
> There's nothing more to be said, then.
> You've made up your mind.
> But you've impressed me by mentioning
> that you're a professor with 30 years of
> experience.
> So, can you cite some examples of
> people recommending "shock collars,
> hanging, and punishment"?
> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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