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Re: Light bulb moment

by <DelusionalDimensionsRecoveryDDR@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 20, 2007 at 11:46 AM

HOWEDY diddler you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic
 life long incurable malignant mental case and backyard
puppy miller and professional dog training FRAUD an
SCAM ARTIST,

"diddy" <none> wrote in message 
news:Xns99EDEE730C909diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> CanineDivine <CanineDivine@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spoke these
words of wisdom in 
news:6a89ba94-d29f-4478-8c95-4bd5c2535eb8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> Anyway, Shy followed up her real life utility
>> work with a real utility title this weekend,
>
> WOOHOOOOOO!! That's HUGE!!!!!!

Naaah, that's SIMPLE <{}: ~ ( >

ESPECIALLY for a EXXXPERT PROFESSIONAL trainer.

What's it take? A directed retrieve over hurdles, a broad
jump, scent discrimination consisting of selecting the
dumbell his owner handled out of what, maybe four articles?

 BIG DEAL. ANY six month old puppy can do THAT..

> Congrats!

LikeWIZE, but it AIN'T HUGE.

THIS is HUGE:


      Budgie wins cross-stitching award


A three-year-old budgie has been named Young
 Cross-Stitcher of the Year.

Spike picked up the Cross-Stitcher magazine award
 after picking up the habit from owner Sandra Battye.

Sandra, 31, of Stevenage, Herts, who nursed Spike back
 to health after a food allergy almost killed her, said: "She
would sit on my shoulder and watch me for hours.

"One day I just sat and didn't stitch. It seemed to frustrate
 her. Then suddenly she picked up the needle in her beak
and began cross-stitching herself. I wasstaggered.

Now I can't stop her.

"She still gets a bit confused at how the patterns work but
she is very good at pulling and pu****ng the needle through
 the fabric."

Cross-Stitcher magazine editor Cathy Lewis said:
"We were amazed by the photos of Spike."

                   ----------------------

       And NHOWE, on to the GOOD STUFF:



"diddy" <none> wrote in message 
news:Xns99E154DAFFD50diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dog trainer must succeed. By nature, "Command" mentality
makes dog trainers a curmudgeonly lot. The deeper a dog
behavior digs in, the more willing a good trainer is to do
 what it takes to uproot the undesired behavior.

This willingness to tackle what results in a battle of wills
is well pronounced in dog trainers. And if you think that's
something, try horse trainer lists, where the ante is upped X
1000 pounds and poor results can KILL you!

However, "nice little horsey " types are rarely successful
in horse training and rather self extingui****ng bringing
about more moderation in established techniques.

              BWEEEAAAAHAHAAA~!

diddler the **** stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:

"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.

 Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated cir***stances.

A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.

You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.

I think that should be expected of any breed, and
those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"

               BWEEEAAAHAHAAAA~!~!~!

From: diddy <none>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:00:29 -0600
Local: Sun, Nov 11 2007 1:00 pm
Subject: And then there were......

I was prepared a few hours ago to post there were now only two
dogs. But after a trip to the Dayton Emergency clinic, we are
now only $200 poorer and brought home a very torb'ed up beagle.
We estimate the beagle to be about 14.

This morning she had severe abdominal distress.  Pacing,
whining, and crippling spasm, accompanied with the most
pitiful moans and groans you ever heard.

My husband said, if it's serious (LOOK HERE.. ANY PAIN OF THAT MAGNITUDE
IS 
SERIOUS!) we weren't going to fix it, we would
simply put her down. But she got out yesterday, and indulged in
a buffet of horse meadow muffins.

She may be impacted, and it might pass.

I told him she's in pain, and transient or not, we
 have to do something about the pain while we
wait to see if the issue resolves or not.

So the vet said, if you aren't fixing it. Let's juice her up
on Torbugesic, healthy doses of antibiotics, with reglan
to move things along. We just treated everything.  So if
there is improvement, we will assume fixable. If not.. I
will write that "And then there were two" post.
to be continued.....

"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns99E8E7772AFA6diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Terri <Terri@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spoke these words of wisdom in
> news:Xns99E8D0E4C5B7544444@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> diddy <none> wrote in
news:Xns99E8E49A5599Ddiddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>> Terri <Terri@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spoke these words of wisdom in
>>> news:Xns99E8CD58B34FE7544444@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>> How's Cappy?

diddler might have to MURDER him like HOWE she done
Danny and had the same RESULTS terri done when she
MURDERED her DEAD DOG Mojo <{}: ~ ( >

Monday, November 12, 2007 7:39 AM
Beagle Re****t

"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns99E64DEAB16D0diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 you everyone for your well wishes. Cappy woke up this
 morning, bright, hungry and seems entirely normal.  Whatever
 it was, seems to have passed.

                ----------------------

Well, NOT REALLY after all...

>>> Thanks for asking. Yesterday was touch and go.

Yeah? As opposed to "bright, hungry and
seems entirely normal" on Monday mornin?:
Monday, November 12, 2007 7:39 AM
Beagle Re****t

>>> She went to the vet Sunday/Monday/Tuesday for ramped
>>> up Torbugesic. As long as she was doped, things went
>>> pretty well.  When it wore off, things went down from
>>> there.

What happened? Did she eat more POOP?:

"diddy" <diddy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
News:Xns993C52BAC299Bdanny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dogs aren't into beer that much.
But they sure love Horse poop!

             ----------------

>> What a nightmare. In fact it brought back the panic
>> I went through with Champ when he got blocked after
>> eating cat litter years ago.

Naaaah?

Oh, you mean JUST LIKE HOWE your other dogs Tuck,
Reka and Danny swallowed CRAP like your veterinarians
OFFICE KITTY, an nearly DIED?

diddler the **** stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:

"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.

 Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated cir***stances.

A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.

You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.

I think that should be expected of any breed, and
those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"

              BWEEEEAAAHAHAAAA~!~!~!

"diddy" <none> wrote in message 
news:Xns99E670733299Cdiddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Shelly <scouvrette@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spoke these words of
wisdom in news:fh9qdj $717$2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I wonder if the screaming was just her coming out of
> the drugs, and nothing to do with pain?>

No she was pain, because you could see her cringing.

And she just passed one big solid rock hardball.. so I think she
 was just constipated.  I think there are more to come, and since
 i posted, she's still whimpered a few times,  I think this was a
blockage issue and the reglan moved things along.

We weren't going to operate if it was a blockage.

We simply would have put her down.

Well When Cappy was sick last week, my husband said,
she's old, she's not worth anything, and we aren't going to
 put the money into saving her that you would put into your
 dogs. We just aren't going to fix anything.

HUH?

Well I can understand not giving her a kidney transplant
if she needed one... but look it.. she's in pain.

Him: wait and see if she gets over it.

Me: She's in pain

Him: Well I'm not going to go out and shoot her, if she
can just pass this thing she swallowed.

Me: She's in pain.

Tuck finally demanded that I take care of her, and I told
 my husband, I was taking her to Dayton Emergency Hospital...
because she's in pain. I won't fix anything, but we ARE doing
pain management while we see if she recovers or not.

So i shamed him into going, and the vet treated her for a
bunch of potential problems, and we diagnosed nothing.

Three days later, three consecutive Emergency vet visits and
$600 poorer, and one better beagle... We both agree, it isn't
about what a dog is worth, it's about basic needs.  We now have
a very expensive old beagle, and she feels like she was worth
every penny. So do I.  I've never even had any emotional
investment in the dog. But she doesn't deserve to suffer.

We won't ever fix anything on her.. but she's entitled to her
 comfortable place holding down the couch, and living pain
 free until her time comes.

This time was not her time.

We both learned a lesson over this beagle. My husband learned
that it's not about worth. Every life has worth. If you take
responsibility for a life, it then takes on a value.

You have made a contract with that life for food, shelter,
and at the very basic level... a life without unreasonable
pain.

My husband learned something about me. Even though i have
never made a commitment to that dog, i have now, because
she was not allowed to live under my roof in pain.

I learned something about that beagle. Even though we have
 both shared the same roof for probably 5-6 years, and I
never recognized her as our beagle, but more the beagle that
came, and stayed, and her owners never came looking for her,
It just occurred to me, that she's ours NOW.

And i share your sentiments about being appalled at what some
people consider basics, others consider luxuries. I can make
a living (and DO) on the stuff my wealthy neighbors across the
street throw away.

My son's father in law and I were sitting at the table cutting
up a deer this afternoon. And were discussing the same thing..
Basic NEEDS, and WANTS, and distingui****ng the difference.

To me, a luxury is paying my dialup internet. I can live without
the internet.  The internet to me is an indulgence but very cheap
entertainment.  We were laughing about his daughter's (My
 daughter in laws) compulsion to shop, and her lack of recognition
 to tell the difference between NEED and want.

And there is a Chasm between the two.

Obviously a roof over my head is a need to me. But people survive
on the streets homeless. Therefore, even then my definition of
NEED becomes a luxury.

If you stop and think about it, even living a very bare
 bones existance is pretty luxurious.  I am a lavish spender.
 I have pets. nuff said.

                     NOT QUITE, diddler:

No it weren't. It was HORSE POOP.

                 LIKE THIS:

diddler the **** stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:

"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.

 Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated cir***stances.

A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.

You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.

I think that should be expected of any breed, and
those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"

"Cappy the beagle killed one of my ducklings today.
Tuck grabbed a leg, and swallowed a leg and thigh
before I could get him.

a month ago, he almost died from swallowing a
chicken wing. Now I'm sweating all over again.

I think he's never going to  be allowed out ever
again without a muzzle! (he seems alright thus far.

Re: Tuck's SAR experience

"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns982D2E8C7C9D6danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I just came in from putting chickens to bed, and Tuck
 had my computer keyboard on the floor, and there are
 now two keys missing.

 Ornery git

                              -------------

Re: Just scheduled blood test--Zipper too

"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns99056C3BAB8F4danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in thread news:IeqdnZChtN4RX5jbnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "MauiJNP"
> <jmh1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:
> in thread news:IeqdnZChtN4RX5jbnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "MauiJNP"

<jmh1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:

> Seems to me, that should be a standard question for
> any pet having any problems at this time.

I took Tuck in last Wednesday to the vets because two weeks
before, he had chewed some old treated lumber. Knowing that
treated lumber used to be treated with Arsenic, and he ate a
substantial amount, I took him into the emergency clinic and
they treated him for arsenic poisoning.

A week later, he still had a raw stomach, esophagus and stomach
(revealed by endoscopy). He was treated with buffers, and antibiotics
to prevent infection of the inflamed tissues. Wednesday, still not
right, but improving, I took him back in for a recheck.

The first thing the vet did, was ask what foods I was feeding.
Which I understood why, but felt considering his current history,
was rather a unnecessary question. I felt we pretty much knew
 what was going on with him.

Since he was greatly improved, we decided not to do another
endoscopy and just watch him. He's 100% back to normal.
Hope Cali is too.

                    ------------

"diddy" <diddy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
News:Xns993C52BAC299Bdanny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dogs aren't into beer that much.
But they sure love Horse poop!

"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns98696E8474475danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've scorned your counter surfing dog all these years. I just
discovered  this morning,I had one also. I was slicing Beef
tongue (remember the tongue  table re: tribute to Cate's
mom?) and I left it on the counter,while I went to read email.

I suddenly saw movement in the kitchen and there was
Tuck scarfing down 7 pounds of sliced tongue.  Oh my
goodness  gracious, where did he put all of that?

 ANYWAY... I owe you an apology.

 humiliated  in  Ohio
 diddy

                 ---------------------

"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns97F28C1704634diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:06:26 -0500, diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

my new puppy, Tuck, grabbed a raw chicken wing and
wolfed it down on sunday. He's been in the hospital daily,
admitted sometimes, and home montored others.He's been
sup****ted  sup****ted daily by fluids, hoping he would pass
it, but he's destabilizing fast, and has just gone into surgery
to have it removed from his stomach, and his intestines have
intuscepted from being empty for so long, and they need
surgery also.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:51:33 -0500

Subject: Re: Disaster plans for dog owners

We left Reka  outside, Mr beeegs crated, Taya in the
 house.. because Reka plays when Taya doesn't want
 to, and Danny came with me.  I forgot Taya counter
 surf'd. I had 3 sticks of summer sausage sitting on the
 table that I was going to give away.

When I came home, all three sticks were gone, with
only the paper skins left that I'd wrapped them with.
Taya had eaten over 5 POUNDS of summer sausage!
 I just had to laugh, because otherwise, I'd have cried.

diddy
                                ---------------

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns9839861A82FF6danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in thread news:m1s5g2lsio01rsk9iisfcjotfqigmljjnp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Janet B
> <j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:

> Curious how many choose to crate a dog forever,
> whenever they leave the house and/or overnight,
> or how many choose to wean from household
> crate usage (usage being shutting the dog in the
> crate, not the dog choosing to hang out there) at
> some specific ages or maturity levels.

> Not for how long during a workday, but how
> long for a dog's lifespan?

 I plan on crating Tuck whenever NOT supervised
 (which isn't often.. he usually is with me) Until the
 day that he quits tearing apart everything in sight
 when I leave the room.

 A dog proof room doesn't work.

 He's figured out door knobs. He's figured out cupboards,
 and he loves to tug open dresser drawers.  He's not
 interested  in anything  left out in the open.

 He's into treasure hunting, figuring  anything worth
 secreting away is worth his effort discovering. He's
 discovered the sock stash is in drawers.

 Trash cans? --not interested.
 Counter tops? --not interested
 Counter tops -with food? --not interested
 Dog food sitting on the floorin open bags? --not interested

 razor blades from bathroom drawers?  ...  Very cool stuff!

 Mom really gets bent too!

 nope.. His crate is going to be occupied for
 some time to come.

 As for the beagle.. She's never been trustworthy.

She's getting senile and never will be trustworthy,
so a crate is in her future until she crosses the bridge.

 Reka, no crate at no time,  She lost her crate when she was
 5 months old.  Both Tuck, and reka hangout in  crates by choice.

 Reka dens in the bathtub usually. (kind of a crate) But she
 likes the beagles vantage point, because the beagles crate
 is on top of Tuck's. Right next to the window so she can see
 out.  Tuck prefers the compartment with a view as well.

 I always have to vacate him (even though the crate on top is
 too small for both elkhounds, it's their preferred lookout)
 when I wantto stick in the beagle.

 Reka sleeps under the bed at night or in the bathtub at night
 if it's really hot. She sleeps in the  bathtub by day when not
 watching from the penthouse suite.

 Tuck is not crated at night, and has chosen to sleep in
 the closet. The beagle holds down the couch, night and day.

              --------------

               SEE?

And THEN, through the MAGICK of INSANITY, SELF
AGGRANDIZEMENT, LIES and diddler's own POSTED
CASE HISTORY indellibly archived in The Sincerely
Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing Grand Puppy,
Child, *****, Birdy And Horsey Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End
 Dog, Child, *****, Goat, Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES, And  Horsey
Training Method Manual Forums And Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory Archives, diddler wrote:

Date: December 29, 2006 5:47 AM

Subject: Re: Dog chewing up floors

in thread news:aad9p2hg0aei5nijqludfvqhb8g1l0jsaj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <mmmtobler...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following
words:

> I, for one, am glad that the Puppy Wizard comes across
> as a complete loon given what his advice is since it
> makes it less likely that people will take it instead
> of the advice of someone else I think gives better advice.

For the record, The Puppy wizard over-rates himself.  But
"his" (tm) methods are pretty much tried and true methods
 that trainers have used and some still use today.

There are better methods out there now. But the ones posted
in his manual (now that he has removed the advice to SPIKE
a dog's temperature to dangerous levels) are sound. they work..
no matter what we  think of the puppy-wizard and  his packaging...
"his methods" <cough> are just as valid as anyone else's

"His methods" can stand some updating, and he definitely
needs to look at some repackaging.

Hopefully others add a slicker delivery to grab attention,
but truthfully, when you look at the cat fights that go on
here, and stand back and watch in perspective, it's rather
hard to determine the sane ones from the lunatics.

In fact, an awful lot of people here come off looking
rather tainted. A person needs to have a good filtering
device to sort out the noise.

TPW just has a problem that's too painfully obvious.

                 --------------------

          You mean, LIKE THIS?:

HOWEDY diddler you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal
 murderin punk thug coward active acute chronic life long incurable
malignant mental case and backyard PUPPY MILLER / professional
dog trainin FRAUD an SCAM ARTIST,

"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns99D5A96165C14diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ceb <ceb4v@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spoke these words of wisdom in
> news:Xns99D59F74643E5ceb4vvirginiaedu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> IIRC, we used a version of this method in obedience class for Zoe and
>> Queenie. It was usually a long leash, and it helped to enforce the
come,
>> mainly by getting their attention. Of course, after they did come, we
>> gave them a treat and praised them to the skies.
>>
>> The dogs had already learned sit and stay, but sometimes
>> their eyes would drift and it could be hard to get their attention.
>> Eventually we learned to have them come without the leash, but
>> almost everything was done on- leash to start with.

> ceb, We teach the recall on a long lead in obedience cl***** also.

That so, diddler?

> We had a dog leave the building once, and for
> liability reasons, we use a long line..

Oh? What happened? Did your idiot imbecile son leave the
door open like HOWE he done your front gate an let your
dogs escape an get whacked by a car AGAIN?:

"I was in that position once when Becky was hit
 by a car when my son left the yard gate open."

> In fact, I belong to 3 obedience dog clubs,
> and all three teach the recall on a long line.

That so, diddler?

> And if I had a dog that didn't come, I would be
> teaching my dog that way at home too.

That so, diddler?

> I've never needed to,

Oh, you mean on accHOWENTA you just SHOCK your
 dog when IT blows you off, ain't that correct, diddler?

                     LIKE THIS:

"When Tuck was a little guy, all of a sudden he started blowing
me off on recall.  Yes, Yes i did, put him on a remote collar. It
took one time (he hadn't established a pattern yet) and it fixed
the problem. When I call, he doesn't even think about it. he turns
and is on the run.

I think a dog should have a sound recall base before doing the
remote trainer.  As he ran the other direction, I upped the stim
a level, it took twice in one training session and NOT coming
has never been a thought since."

          BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAA!!!

"And if I had a dog that didn't come, I would
be teaching my dog that way at home too. I've
 never needed to,"

That so, diddler?

> but since the OP  is having issues, your advice is spot on.

Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS, diddler?:

And THEN, through the MAGICK of INSANITY,
SELF AGGRANDIZEMENT, LIES and diddler's
own POSTED CASE HISTORY indellibly archived
in The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
Amazing Grand Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy And Horsey
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog, Child, *****,
Goat, Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES, And Horsey Training
Method Manual Forums And Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory Archives, diddler the
**** stain smeared on the walls:

diddler the **** stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:

"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.

 Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated cir***stances.

A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.

You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.

I think that should be expected of any breed, and
those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"

                 ALL ABOARD~!

MOORE FUN W/DIDDY and what DANNY and
TAYA (with heelp from TOBY) did with the Vet's
OFFICE KITTEN after they got home from RUNNING
AWAY BUT DIDN'T CROSS A STREET!:

DIDDY ON CATS (shoot, don't trap)

From: diddy
(d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet owner****p.

I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.

To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny
will not look at a cat. When confronted with one,
Danny wees himself and cowers hiding behind me
for help.

I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has
never been harmed by  any of the dogs. Danny is there
all the time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming the cat.

                        -----------------------

              BWEEEAAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

Re: Just scheduled blood test--Zipper too
"diddy" <diddy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns99056C3BAB8F4danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 took Tuck in last Wednesday to the vets because

two weeks before, he had chewed some old treated
lumber. Knowing that treated lumber used to be
treated with Arsenic, and he ate a substantial amount,
I took him into the emergency clinic and they treated
him for arsenic poisoning.

A week later, he still had a raw stomach, esophagus
and stomach (revealed by endoscopy). He was treated
with buffers, and antibiotics to prevent infection of the
inflamed tissues. Wednesday, still not right, but
improving, I took him back in for a recheck.

The first thing the vet did, was ask what foods I was feeding.
Which I understood why, but felt considering his current history,
was rather a unnecessary question. I felt we pretty much knew
 what was going on with him.

Since he was greatly improved, we decided not to do
another endoscopy and just watch him. He's 100%
back to normal. Hope Cali is too.

                              ------------

           BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

diddler the **** stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:

"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.

Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated cir***stances.

A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.

You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.

I think that should be expected of any breed,
and those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"

       Here's diddler TRAININ her neighbor's dog
            to stay HOWETA her garbage:

"My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing
Up Trash Up And Down Our Road For Years Making
 An Unbelievable Mess. When We Finally Killed The
Culprit, The Whole Road Cheered," diddler.

From: diddy (d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
I would react. There would be none left standing
to deal with the threat just in case.

If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
continents stop me from pursuing justice.

Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
dog might not mean THAT much to him.

If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
certainly spark a dog aggression thing.

(and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
was it doing in his yard?)

I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
horses and called him to help me find it. I would
do the same for threatening my dog.

My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
trash up and down our road for years making an
unbelievable mess.

When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
cheered. Animal control had never been able in
years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)

                           ----------------
From: diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 11:27:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK

Cate wrote:

> "Jeff Harper" <dummyaddr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:aqgn8c$9ss69$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
> > | trash up and down our road for years making an
> > | unbelievable mess. When we finally killed the
> > | culprit, the whole road cheered. Animal control
> > | had never been able in years to catch this critter.
> > | (we think it was feral it was certainly unkempt
> > | enough to have been....and it had been shot at by
> > | MANY of the neighbors, but it never frightened
> > | it off enough to keep it from NOT tearing up the
> > | road the next trash day)

> > Y'all take killing dogs pretty lightly.  I'd have tolerated
> > the trash problem before I would have killed the dog.

> No kidding.

> > But putting up with it wouldn't have been necessary.
> > The trash could have been better secured and the
> > problem would have been resolved.

> Yep. Where's the condemnation of the people not
> securing their trash. Especially since, IIRC, this is
> the country we're talking about.
>
> Cate

They were in the standard Rumpke plastic
waste containers they MUST be in.

 If you are upset I advise you to keep your dogs at home.

As i repeated before, the time Danny and Taya got loose,
for all the dangers they faced out there, cars, disease,
coyotes, etc, the most immediate danger they were in,
was being shot.

This is why I immediately started canvassing the area
with full color door to door handouts emblazoned with
REWARD. DO NOT SHOOT these dogs across the top.

I knew every second they were loose, they were in grave
danger of being shot. At that time, Our dog pound was
 on 20/20 for being one of the worst in the country (it's
 not now, it's a modern model facility) i WANTED my
 dogs there.

It meant they weren't out there being shot.

They would throw dogs in  pens of 10-20 dogs, In spite
 of the dirt and filth, if they got there, I had a chance of
recovery.

Roaming in this area is a very bad thing,
 and people WILL shoot dogs.

Happens all the time.

If you like your dog, you keep it home.

A persons personal animals are more valueable to
 them than your animal you don't think enough of to
 keep at home.

                      --------------

                      LIKE THIS:

From: diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:30:27 -0500
Local: Wed, Mar 6 2002 8:30 am
Subject: Re: teaching dogs "jobs"

(They were taught NEVER EVER to step on a road.... No foot EVER
touches the road!) Danny lost a tracking test once, because the
test crossed a seldom used gravel road. When he reached the road,
a car just happened to go by. He refused to cross the road, and
when I took him by the collar and ****ged him, I was Disqualified
for aiding the dog. Danny simply will NOT cross a road.. when he
was intact, not EVEN for a ***** in season.

Now you have a dog that...

                     WHOOOOPS!

        Whoops, Danny And Taya run away from
        unsecured yard and imbecile owner BUT
        CAREFULLY AVOID CROSSIN A ROAD.

        Will they survive life out in the wilderness
        out amongst diddler's coyote traps?

        Will they get mistaken for coyotes and sold
        to the highest bidder at the fur auction?

        Or will they live again to do a help dummy diddy
        do a demonstration on safe and responsible pet
        owner****p in the kitchen with the vet's office kitten?

                       Stay tuned, fans...

        From: Kathy Levee (kle...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
       > Subject: Off Topic --MISSING DOGS
       > Date: 1999/04/14
       >
       > I realize this has absolutely nothing to do with
       > Disney. Parks, but since those of us on this
       > newsgroup are from all over the country, I thought
       > you would understand this one time intrusion.  We
       > are desperate to find these dogs....Please, if you
       > have any information, contact the e-mail address
       > at the bottom of the note.  Thank you for your
       > understanding.........
       >
       > Karyl Parks' (aka diddler) dog Danny - Ch. Alpha's
       > Decorum (I think that is his correct registered name)
       > is missing .  For those that have never met Danny -
       > he is very special.  Both trained for Search and
       > Rescue

You'd think her SAR dog could find his own way
back to his own HOWES, provided they ain't gotta
CROSS A ROAD gettin back???

       > as well as service dog trained, CDX, etc.

But IT can't find ITS way back to his own HOWES?

       > He does all the things that service dogs do

Like run HOWET on his people and not return?

     > from opening doors, turning on lights, getting
     > clothes and shoes.

You FORGOT MURDERIN the vet's office kitty kat
and escaping and destructively chewing a rug and
gettin locked in a box in an HOWEtbuilding to muffle
his CRYING till he was ****IN BLOOD and went in
for intestinal obstruction.

       >  He is a marvel.


Naaah. You want a MARVEL? **MARVEL** at
that STUPID KAT that PAINICKED when diddler
 snared IT in her leg hold STRANGLE / CHOKE
choke trap. She'd have BLUDGEONED IT had IT
 not been wearin a collar. Perhaps she was lookin
for a REWARD, bein a SUBSISTANCE hunter
and all.

You call tying the dog to a wall training, diddler, like
HOWE you trained your fence to train your dog?

diddy wrote:

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> We have a beagle. Before we got our last one, we
> knew what to expect and spent a year re-enforcing
> the fence.

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> What we did.

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> Double fencing, hardware cloth lined on the inside.
> Wood ties under gates. A chicken wire apron extending
> out into the yard 12 inches. (hog ringed to the upright
> fencing). We chose chicken wire because it was flexible
> and ground conforming. grass grows right over it, making
> it invisible and easy to mow over. It's tacked down by tent
> stakes every 10 inches. (this is our most considerable
> investment)

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> The problems with it is that it eventually disintegrates,
> rusts, pulls apart and need repair a lot. We placed tile
> blocks over the top, because the tent stakes stick up,
> and sometimes get hit by the lawnmower.

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> Overall, it's a pretty decent system and works
> MOST of the time.

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> The beagle is persistent, and tends to work the inner
> fencing, that's flimsy down, or tear it, making exit holes.
> We recently cut down a couple yard trees that broke down
> sections of the fence and they need re-enforcement.

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> When the weather breaks, a whole new fence
> is in order, but the system works MOST of the time.

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> We did install an underground perimeter E-fence
> at the fence line, and found a single strand 12 inch
> high electric cattle fence around the perimeter was
> just as effective, cheaper, less bothersome (no need
> to wear heavy e-collars.. especially that mess up coats),
> but both needed occassional maintenence.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> What we did.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> I admit our system fails occassionally, especially
> when snow drifts are over the top of the fences
> and erase any identifiable fenceline.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> We installed (BEFORE getting the beagle) a 100
> foot trolly line that crosses the yard.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> This is a safe, effective restraint system that has
> always worked when immediate repairs or extra
> security is desired.
>
> If I go away and leave the beagle outside. He goes
> to the trolly line, whether the containment system
> is currently working or not.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> It's great for emergency situations, and the $17
> last resort system gets used for the beagle far
> more than I ever expected. It still allows reasonable
> exercise range of area and mobility. The elkhounds
> and the beagle still play avidly, and it's the cheapest
> piece of mind security ever.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> A trolly tether system is the best for tem****ary
> containment while discovering where the leak
> is. In the snow, it's easy to discover the
> leak. In the summer, it's more difficult.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> I do not like, or use our current underground collar system

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!

> Because she's IM****TANT to me.I'm proud of her. She
> wasn't competing in anything. But she's an integral part
> of my life, and It never occurred to me NOT to take her.

AS STATED, on accHOWENTA
 YOU CAN'T LEAVE HER ALONE.

> No one Inquired about her titles, or lack of.

Hey diddler? Remember when you went over to timmy
aka buzzsaw's and jerked an choked an shocked his
dog till IT couldn't be jerked an choked an shocked
nodoGdameneD more and STILL COULDN'T TRAIN
him not to chase squirrels?

> They remarked that she was a very well behaved,
> well adjusted, nice dog. And that she is. It doesn't
> take a title to prove that. And She's beautiful....
> She's the prettiest Dog I've ever  had.  She has
> no champion****p, Nor does she need one to
>  acknowledge her beauty. She's Comfort food.

Yeah. And you're INSANE. AND a LIAR.

    Here's diddler's SUCCESS trainin her own dog not to
                  bark whine an cry all night:

 diddy (d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
 Subject: Oh My God
 Date: 2002-01-16 13:39:59 PST

 Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
 I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
 fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
 listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
 the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out.

 After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
 securely in a horse stall for the night.

 She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
 day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
 out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
 DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
 to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
 spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
 going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.

 At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
 allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
 So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
 decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
 and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
 was not going to be tolerated.

 This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
 (normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
 (not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
 sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
 anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
 from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
 confinement.)

 I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
 I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
 playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of blood on
 the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
 take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.

 That blood didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
 Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
 I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
 behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
 and corresponding coyote breeding season.

 Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
 She had blood (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.

 I had her at the vets office this morning before he
 opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
 up with huge air pockets.

 Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
 said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
 that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
 because she was chewing it. That would explain
 EVERYTHING.

 The  strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
 cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
 it works its way through.

 Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
 require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
 afford. I will manage.

 Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
 for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
 treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
 clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
 --
 diddy

                                ----------------

Here's diddler hurting and murderin
innocent critters for FUN and PROFIT:

        > From: diddy (d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re:
        > cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse? Date:
        > 2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST

        > Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It
        > leaped, and tangled itself, and most certainly
        > strangulated it's intestines. It had the snare
        > pulled tight down to the diameter of a dime (just
        > large enough to encircle the spine) around the waist
        > area. This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to
        > extricate this cat was exceedingly difficult, not to
        > mention dangerous. Because I feared damage to the
        > intestines and death of the gut, I imagined
        > this cat was not likely to survive.
        >
        >  It would have been much simpler to dispatch the
        > unfortunate cat and take out the dead body. Instead,
        > this cat wore a collar. it deserved a chance, and
        > the owner deserved closure. (no id on the collar) .
        >
        > It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be
        > taken to the vet for examination. I will probably
        > never know if this particular cat survives the
        > experience or not.
        >
        > People in the area were aware that trapping was
        > being done and apparently still let their cats run
        > free, both endangered by the traps and by the
        > coyotes being targeted that are causing a problem
        > with their cat population.
        >
        > Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not
        > have tried to release this hostile cat. Releasing it
        > may not have been a kindness, but then... cats
        > weren't supposed to be attracted to this type of
        > trap, in this position, and then they weren't
        > supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this
        > situation. If you like your pet, you keep them home.
        >
        > --------------------------------

Date: December 29, 2006 5:47 AM

Subject: Re: Dog chewing up floors

in thread news:aad9p2hg0aei5nijqludfvqhb8g1l0jsaj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <mmmtobler...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following
words:

> I, for one, am glad that the Puppy Wizard comes across
> as a complete loon given what his advice is since it
> makes it less likely that people will take it instead
> of the advice of someone else I think gives better advice.

For the record, The Puppy wizard over-rates himself.  But
"his" (tm) methods are pretty much tried and true methods
 that trainers have used and some still use today.

There are better methods out there now. But the ones posted
in his manual (now that he has removed the advice to SPIKE
a dog's temperature to dangerous levels) are sound. they work..
no matter what we  think of the puppy-wizard and  his packaging...
"his methods" <cough> are just as valid as anyone else's

"His methods" can stand some updating, and he definitely
needs to look at some repackaging.

Hopefully others add a slicker delivery to grab attention,
but truthfully, when you look at the cat fights that go on
here, and stand back and watch in perspective, it's rather
hard to determine the sane ones from the lunatics.

In fact, an awful lot of people here come off looking
rather tainted. A person needs to have a good filtering
device to sort out the noise.

TPW just has a problem that's too painfully obvious.

                 --------------------

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

diddler the **** stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:

From: diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

Subject: Separation Anxiety

 All this talk of SA. Thios goes way off topic, but it's
 SA to the extreme.. but goes both ways. I know Danny has
 Separation anxiety.  He doesn't do physical damage, he
 internalizes it.

 Which I wish he wouldn't.

 The vets all try to "fix" it and consider it a real problem.

 I don't  see it that way. I feel physically ill without him.
 So it's mutual. I have made sure Reka does not EVER get that
 attached.  I do not want "our" mutual separation anxiety fixed.

 I just take Danny me everywhere, and am honored by his company.

I resent the vets that they consider this a "problem". In fact,
I stole him out of a specialists care that thought the SA should
be fixed right then and there. They kept me out in the waiting
room for five days and nights, while my dog was on the other
side of the door.

He escaped, knowing I would be there for him. He opened, what
they considered inescapable cages, under 24 hour observation.
It takes 2 hands to operate the latch, and apparently he used
a paw and a tongue to break free dragging his intubations and
iv's with him as he burst into the waiting room to be with me.

I burst into tears and was so happy to see him.

The doctors couldn't throw me out of there, because it was
a 24 hour clinic. But they decided his SA was inconducive
to his health. They were going to fix it right then and there.

They ordered that I was NOT to see my dog.

I was deeply resentful of this, and the next time Danny
escaped (and he did) I grabbed him and ran from the clinic.
I called my vet on the 2 hour trip home, and told him I was
on my way home with my dog, and he needed sup****tive care.

My vet allowed me to stay with my dog.

He had excellent care. Top Notch. But I don't understand why
vets seem to think THEY own the dog while in their care. I
was paying for this.

I don't and never understood how a vet seemed to think they
have the right  to keep you from your pet. I would never take
my dog back there. Apparently since he had been passed from
specialist to specialist, this was the only place that could
perform the surgery he needed. But they were totally insensitive
to the emotional needs of both dog and client.

            -----------------------

diddler the **** stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:

I think 4 hours or so, I had put him in a supposedly
"Secure" place, while I had to leave. When I got
home, he had trashed my house. From then on,
when I left, he got put in the horse stall.

He trashed my horse stall.

He then got a new horse stall, wore a E-collar,
I electrified the perimeter of the stall and we
were finally able to contain him while we worked
on his escape problems.

Once he learned that I was more determined to
defeat him, he finally subdued. But escaping, to
him was a game.

Both of us had a throughly miserable time during
the stand off. The dog is actually now a very good
citizen. He just had to meet someone more determined,
and stubborn and willing to go the distance to do what
it took, before he would stop.

Like I said, I thought he and I were going
to grow old together.

I am not going to go into exactly where we
went before we got that accomplished.

Let's just say it was "ugly"

         ------------------------------

"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns948C7D04EBB68danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I loathe that ear cropping is done. On traditionally ear-
 cropped dogs, I LIKE them that way. I wouldn't have a
 doberman any other way. I had two dobermans, and thought
 their ear croppings brutal. i don't consider tail docking
 brutal.

 I prefer men cir***cised. I guess that's TMI. If my husband
 suffered from the procedure, he's gotten over it.

              -----------------

DIDDY AND THE DOBERMAN WHO BLED
 TOO MUCH for her OWN GOOD

  > It's explained on the AKC website. And I'm very sorry to
  >  hear this. I too had a dog that I wanted to finish

Oh, here's one you finished alright, you finished her real
good because she made you late for work after you cut her
ears off.

Date:   Mon, 05 Aug 2002 13:03:37 -0400
From:   diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Organization:  bright.net Ohio
Newsgroups:  rec.pets.dogs.behavior

  > Patch wrote:
  > There is a detailed explanation of the pain side of things
  > in the re****t I mentioned to Lone. If I can get the new
  > lead for my scanner [hopefully today], would you like me to
  > e-mail it to you so you have the veterinary
  > view of it ?

I someone crops ears, I feel it's for hygenic methods
as well as aesthetics. I'm not saying cropping is not
painful, taking two dobermans through cropping (one with
von Willebrawns.. and THAT was ugly -- and I finally put
her to sleep at one year old because I kept coming home
from work finding my house in a bloodbath every time I
came home from work, and was told I was going to get
fired for absentee if I continued to miss work in the
afternoons after coming home for lunch, and having to
run the dog to the vet.

The mental stress of dealing with such a dog was unreal,
dealing with the unknowns of what she was going to do next
(tear a nail, puncture herself, bruise herself.. the
emergencies she created for herself were unreal)She also
kept catching her dew claws on things, and I finally had
them removed.

       ---------------------------

diddler wrote:

I think paper training  is ALWAYS a bad idea if you ever plan
on expecting them to potty outside. It makes the process harder.

I suggest crate training her, so she can be managed in between
potty periods. After she goes outside successfully, she can then
have supervised free time until she's due for another potty interval.

Take her out if she doesn't go, crate her, and offer her frequent
trips outside until she's successful. No bedding in the crate.

When she nips, don't play any more.I'd crate her for rough play.
I also  press athumb intheir soft palate, and let them" TRY" to
spit me out. They soon enough learn that I am something they
do  NOT want in their mouths

           -------------

Hello diddler,

"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:3CA9DA5C.D6D601FF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Matthias wrote:
> > I don't know what to do anymore.
> > Until about 7 months ago my 9 yo. mix was absolutely fine.
> > But from one day to the other she started waking me up in
> > the morning at around 4:30 to 5am by running around restlessly
> > (hardwood floor) or simply sitting as close as possible to my
> > bed and breathing heavily, almost sticking her tongue in my ear.

He should spray Binaca or citronella in ITS face or lock
his dog in a crate in an outbuilding to muffle its noise.

> > She does that for about an hour - sleep of course is impossible - just
> > to lay down eventually and her falling asleep again. At that point I
am
> > sleep deprived and exhausted.

Don't put her out in the barn, that won't muffle the noise.
Put her in a secure out building in a crate and enjoy your peace.

> > I tried anything I could come up with: check the food,
> > check the water, check with the doctor if she's sick,
> > walk her more, walk her later, talk to her, pet her,
> > calm her, command her, nothing helps.

Not to worry. She'll be fine in the outbuilding if she's
locked in her crate. You'll get used to the noise.

> > I have simply no idea what's wrong with her. She does it
> > EVREY night, sometimes for 15 minutes, sometimes for two
> > hours. She never did it when she was younger, and I didn't
> > change anything in her or my life.

No problem. Just don't reward her for her bad behaviors.
Lock her in a crate outside and don't let her out if she's
making noise or you'll spoil her.

> > Please help me to get her (and me) sleeping again.

Just lock her outside in a box and enjoy your beauty rest.

> > Wonko

> Any marked behaviour change, to me indicates
> a trip to the vet is validated.

Unless you just lock the dog in a box in an outbuilding cause
puni****ng and locking her in the horse stall doesn't work for
barking at nite when your dogs is busting a gut from eating
the barricade you built to protect your garbage.

> I have had dogs panting at my bedside uncharacteristicly.

Yeah. And you punish them for that. And then you locked her in
the horse barn but you could still hear her cry. So you locked
her in another outbuilding in a crate cause she was going manic
with a TWISTED GUT from compulsive destructive chewing cause you
punish choke and intimidate your dogs, diddler.

> We did diagnostics

You waited till she was ****in blood after crying
and barking for three nites in a row, diddler.

> and EVENTUALLY we DID find a physical cause.

Destructive chewing twisted her intestines, and you locked
her out cause you got tired of puni****ng her so you could rest.

> My one girl had addisons.

And the other had a twisted gut and was crying for three
nites straight in agony, begging you to help her, so you
removed her to an even MOORE remote location.

> My boy had pancreatitis. My puppy had eaten splinters.
> Before that, my boy had bleeding stomach ulcers

Not surprising. These are all a result of
compulsive anxiety disorder syndrome.

> Some took a great deal of testing and expense,

Yeah, took three days of tesing your dog in a box locked
in an outbuilding before the  BLOOD WORK  came back from
the laboratory in your bathtub. I guess your dog goes to
the bathtub to crap when you won't get outta bed to put
her out cause you'll abuse her if she has an accident,
after all, look what you do to her just for being SICK
because of garbage she's chewed because you drive her
INSANE with your choking and punishment and crating.

> and sometimes specialists to find.

So, you think it requires a scientist to diagnose intestinal
bleeding when your dog starts shtittin blood after ignoring
her crying for three nites straight?

> But in every case of one of my dogs having a changed
> behavior, I have ferretted out the source with veterinary
> help.

Because after three nites of constant agony and crying and
barking, she finally started ****in blood all over your
HOWES and that makes you upset. That's HOWE COME
 she ****s in the tub, cause she knows you'll abuse her if she
has an accident, diddler.

NO WONDER everyone thinks I'm a liar. NOBODY would believe this.

That's HOWE COME I quote you lying dog abusing Thugs so people
will get wise to you. UNFORTUNATELY, the quotes are so horrendous,
NOBODY believes them unless they can find the original source.

That's HOWE COME I've come in here to identify, expose,
and discredit our lying dog abusing Thugs, like you didddler.

According to our friend diddler you know the dog needs
to go out when they start ****in blood after barking
and crying for three nites straight locked in a crate
in an outbuilding to muffle her crying..

HOWE about that?

          ---------------

From: diddy <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 08:55:27 -0500
Subject: Re: thunk thunk thunk

Many of us have raised pups without a mother.

Danny's mother was sent back to the breeder that I
leased her from when he was one week old. I don't
think it hurt him any. (long horror story on that..

I leased her, and part of the lease agreement was
that the breeder was to get half the litter.  I
did not think she had a suitable temperament to
breed, and thus the breeder wouldn't allow me to
return the ***** until i paid in full.

I kept her for two years arguing why she should NOT
be bred, and finally bred her just so I could send
her back.

She was a top producing *****.. but a flakehead) But
the reason was that she never got milk. She wasn't
the the role model I wanted for the litter (She was
sound fearful).

The litter went to work with me in a backpack. They
were off the bottle and eating from a pan at 2 weeks.
They were walking at 7 days, and had their eyes open
at nine days.

The entire litter was housebroken at 6 weeks. (Danny
was carrying around his favorite ducky at his 7 days -
-reading notes off the litter development records)

The litter was raised by the Carmen Battaglia Superpuppy
protocol, It was a lot of hard work, and worth it. Keeping
the mother with the litter is recommended, and had it been
most any other Dam, I would have kept her with the litter
in spite of having no milk. I think it turned out pretty well.

            -----------------

Subject: Re: Dog Noses in weird places.

Tuck was in a variable surface test last may.
It was hot (relatively.. it would be a pleasant
day compared to today)

Tuck found the first shade and quit.

Thus, he failed.

I had an op****tunity to allow him
to finish the track, and he did so.

The tracking committee was unaware that there was
also a Homeland security disaster preparedness drill
that day on the same site that was Tucks track, so
he had to deal with National Guard, police, fire,
and ambulance services thronging around the school.

The throngs never rattled him, but the heat did.

He tracked right through the crowds, and laid down
in every shady spot he found. One time he crawled
under a police car parked along side the road.

The track layer nodded, and said.. that's where I walked.
Except Tuck had to be encouraged to come out, because He
found relief there.

Subject:     Re: untrainable beagle! NEED HELP

"diddy" <diddy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns9834C98CEC696danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in thread news:BO2Lg.4755$xV.1684@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "graham
> fandango!" <gmeyer2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:
>
> i have a ten year old beagle who i got from the animal
> shelter 5 years ago. its pretty clear he was abused in
> some form before he ended up in the shelter; when ever
> i reach for something, like the tv remote, too quickly he
>  flinches. he gets scared when i sweep the kitchen floor
> and hides under the bed.

I have one too. I don't know her past history,or her age.

I use an antibark collar on her for my sanity. She's very
quiet, until I take it off. It doesn't train her not to bark,
because she barks when the collar is off. (beagles "Do
that")

 There may not even be batteries in it, but she doesn't
bark... just in  case.I'd supervise the first time you try
it, because I've heard of some dogs barking, and going
so spazzy over them that they died.

 I really don't think you are going to train a dog that
age, especially a beagle, NOT to bark.  I see your
options as being:

  1) anti-bark collar
       a)citronella
       b)electronic
       c)bark buster (your neighbors will
       probably complain asmuch about
       that as the howlng)
 2) surgical debarking
 3) placing the dog and accepting the consequences
 4) moving

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                BWEEEEAAAHAHAHAAAA~!~!~!

Subject: Re: While I'm Here: Pitt Bull Guarding House

in thread news:Xns9911A9780EB25scouvretteyahoocom@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <scouvrette@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:

> diddy <diddy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> news:Xns9911A2E7552E8danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> The gun shop is heated/carpeted and even has a chandelier.
>> Perhaps it's only vile because it has guns in it, right?
>
> Except when she was banished to the barn.  But the point
> is that you made a mistake--one of biggest ones I've seen
> since I started lurking here.  You assumed your dog was
> misbehaving, and you punished her for it, when the very
> first thing you should have done was to consider a medical
> cause for her change in behavior.
>
> Everyone makes mistakes, yet you hold other people
> to a higher standard than yourself.
>
> That's hypocritical.

I had no reason to believe she had a medical issue.

NONE.

She behaved that way the night before in the presence of
Coyotes. She came back in the house during the day, ate,
drank, played normally.  There were no signs of stress.

NONE.

Then when the coyotes came out the following evening, the
whole scenario restarted. It was colder that night, so
rather put her in the horse barn where I could hear her.

I put her in the gun shop where it was warm.

I don't think that was a mistake any more than your
letting Elliot layin a pool of blood the day he died.

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in thread news:Xns9911B87B34904scouvretteyahoocom@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:

> diddy <diddy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> news:Xns9911B7007AB5Bdanny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> Lynn was making predictably stupid moves well beyond the day it
>> happened. Any sentient being could see what was coming from her
>> posts.   THINK: UHOH, This isn't going to be pretty. And I'm not
>> clairvoyant!
>
> So she's not allowed to screw up?  But you are?  What's obvious
> to you or to me or to the lamp post is not necessarily obvious
> to someone who is in the thick of things.  Yes, I think she
> screwed up--multiple times--and that in a perfect world, it would
> have been avoidable.  But she's allowed to make mistakes.  If you
> don't like me bringing up the Reka incident every damned time you
> ***** about someone ****ing up, then you might want to consider
> how it makes you feel, and by extension, how it makes other people
> feel when you do the same thing to them.  This *should* be a
> learning experience for you.

I wouldn't have done the Reka incident any differently, UNLESS
I knew before hand that she had swallowed tarp strings. Had I
known that , she would have been to the vet long BEFORE.. in
fact, as soon as it was discovered.

You bring it up, because you think it bugs me. It does not bug
me that I'm not clairvoyant. Not a bit. In fact, if you want to
bring it up time and time again (30 times a day if you wish) I
get the chance to explain it..

and the obvious. You are nuts and have to dig to find something
to twist and turn because you just can't find a knife.

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   Here's diddler's SUCCESS trainin her own dog not to
                bark whine an cry all night:

 diddy (d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
 Subject: Oh My God
 Date: 2002-01-16 13:39:59 PST

 Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
 I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is
 fascinated by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and
 listen to them howling. I brought her in, and she spent
 the night franticly and desperately demanding to go out.

 After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
 securely in a horse stall for the night.

 She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
 day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
 out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
 DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
 to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
 spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
 going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.

 At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
 allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
 So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
 decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
 and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
 was not going to be tolerated.

 This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
 (normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
 (not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
 sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
 anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
 from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
 confinement.)

 I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
 I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
 playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of blood on
 the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
 take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.

 That blood didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
 Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
 I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
 behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
 and corresponding coyote breeding season.

 Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
 She had blood (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.

 I had her at the vets office this morning before he
 opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
 up with huge air pockets.

 Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
 said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
 that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
 because she was chewing it. That would explain EVERYTHING.

 The  strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
 cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
 it works its way through.

 Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
 require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
 afford. I will manage.

 Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
 for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
 treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
 clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
 --
 diddy

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               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA!!

in thread news:Xns9911BCAD793EEscouvretteyahoocom@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:

> diddy <diddy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> news:Xns9911BA2ADD0AEdanny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> I wouldn't have done the Reka incident any differently,
>> UNLESS I knew before hand that she had swallowed tarp strings.
>
> So the difference between you and Lynn is that Lynn
> actually learns from her mistakes.  Interesting!>

There you go with twisted logic. How did I know
she was in distress and not coyote howling?

you are one twisted sister.

And anyone who agrees with your take on this are
doing so in sup****t of the cabal. You are reaching.

             ---------------

NOT AT ALL. You'd KNOW if your dog was "coyote
HOWEling" Vs bein DEATHLY ILL in accHOWENTA coyote
HOWEling is a BEHAVIOR PROBLEM and therefore CAN BE
EXXXTINGUISHED NEARLY INSTANTLY just like ANY
behavior problem, unless of curse, you're a IMBECILE <{}: ~ ) >

Here's  more:

Tuck is and has been fighting  Pano  and HOD since
5 days AFTER his distemper shot. (I had it done at
humane society vaccine clinic) My vet recommends the
distemper shot being given separately. yes,it takes
another trip to the vet.

The distemper shot is well known forcausing vaccine
reactions and even auto-immune response. (well thats
what vaccines DO..is kickin the auto-immune system)

But over loading an immune system can cause unwanted
reactions. In Tuck,it took the form of HOD/PANO.

There has to be some genetic predisposition to auto-immune
response as well. Tuck's Daddy had bad food allergies.  (an
auto-immune response) and that should have alerted me toa
predisposition.

But I didn't realize the distemper shot would set off a
change of reactions that will last for  one to two years.

My vet says, NEXT year, to be sure to re-vaccinate him with
the same distemper  company that manufactured the distemper
shot that he recieved that caused the problem. Make sure he
recieves the distemper shot SEPARATELY  from the rest.

Part of his treatment protocal is toFeed him large breed
puppy  food (even though he is not a large breed dog) to
slow his growth.

So yes. in answer to your question, I have experienced a
reaction  to the distemper shot. Or my dog has.. It's not
the same reaction as you are describing. But yes, I have.

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           BWEEEEAAAHAAAHAAAAHAAAA~!~!~!

Re: [ot] good thoughts please

"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns97F28C1704634diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Robin Nuttall <robi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> composed these
> thoughts and posted them news:y%cpg.56579$1i1.4784@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Paula wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:06:26 -0500, diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
..
>>> my new puppy, Tuck, grabbed a raw chicken wing and
>>> wolfed it down on sunday. He's been in the hospital
>>> daily, admitted sometimes, and home montored others.
>>> He's been sup****ted  sup****ted daily by fluids,
>>> hoping he would pass it, but he's destabilizing fast,
>>> and has just gone into surgery to have it removed from
>>> his stomach, and his intestines have intuscepted from
>>> being empty for so long, and they need surgery also.
>
>>> He's lost more than half his body weight in the last
>>> two days. please send a positive thought for him. I
>>> know a lot of you don't like me.  but he's not
>>> responsible for his owners behavior.
>
>>>  Of course you have all the good thoughts we can
>>  muster around here.

> Do we have a re****t from today yet? I read
> the one where he's a bit better....

  His prognosis is really poor, even though his vital signs
  are still good. he can walk to go out to potty, but he's
  so painful he didn't want to.

  he's miserable but drugged to the gills. He met me with
  a meekly wagging tail. his face is swollen and his legs
  are swollen, because he does not have the body protein
  to assimilate the fluids.

  When they did the surgery, his intestines were all stuck
  together in one big adhesion.  His intestines were even
  stuck to his bladder, and they pulled them all apart, but
  they wanted to glue themselves back almost immediately.

  if they do that, he will die.

  And this is what they were trying to do during the
  surgery. I asked him if this is the case, why didn't
  we just put him down?

  I don't want him hurting like this, if he's not going
  to survive it anyway.   He said "no,  beca...." and I
  didn't hear the rest, the room got all green and hazy
  and I had to sit down on the floor before I passed out.

  So I really don't know why we are fighting to save him
  if his prognosis is so poor.  I told the vet to stop
  talking.

  He has peritonitis , no penetrations were evident from
  the chicken bones, but we are assuming it was related
  to the chicken wings. But he is also showing bone
  anomalies similar to those dogs with a viral infection.

  Viral infections can also cause abdominal adhesions.
  so there were biopsies sent off for culture and testing.

  He's also a low birthweight puppy, and my vet has suspected
  there was a viral infection going on since birth, even
  before he was born, because of lack of bone development
  on the xrays.

  when he looked at the prenatal xrays, he felt this litter
  was in trouble. when they were low birthweight, he has
  been working on that hunch, and he's been treating this
  pup from the beginning as a suspect viral issue with an
  immune mediated response.

  his breeder calls my vet an idiot.

  The massive adhesions he found also increased his suspicions
  that this was not just the chicken bones but an ongoing problem.
  he wanted to do the biopsy and i told him NO.  (he tends to test
  and test as if my dogs were lab rats) I need this dog fixed, and
  regardless of the cause, the treatment is the same.

  he says he needs to know and is paying for the test himself.
  he says this information may be critical to his sister (who
  is not exhibiting any problems btw) so he can suspect whatever
  he wants, but i think he's looking for zebras, when he's
  actually looking at a horse.

  The lab work he is doing will confirm his hunch. it's his dime.
  If he's right, Della (his sister) will also need to know.

  if he's wrong, it hasn't hurt anything, and it didn't cost
  me a dime. If he had a small pinhole leak from the bones,
  it could also have set up the massive peritonitis.

  Frankly, he ate the chicken wing, and was sick the next day.

  Sometimes a horse is just a horse.

  He started telling me how they handled the adhesion binding
  and why he shouldn't be given up on, and why he thought he
  had a chance, but I honestly didn't hear it, and asked him
  to stop talking, because the fear of losing my little guy
  was just so overwhelming, that I couldn't take any more.

  the room was spinning, I was about to wretch and pass out.

  I never heard what he had done to prevent that. He was about
  to give me the good news, but I never heard it. The bad news
  was so bad, I just wasn't in condition to assimilate any more.

  This little guy was very similar to his Dad. They even keep
  calling him Danny in the clinic, because he looks just like
  him.

  He's been a remarkable puppy, and shows endless talent.

  We tried out for Ohio Task force one a couple weeks ago, and
  he was the youngest one there by eight months! And he did the
  best job of anyone. I was soooooo proud of him. I was  very
  proud of his performance. he's been a delight to train with
  no  apparent fears, tons of courage, biddability, and desire
  to please.

  I decided not to follow that route because orientation tapes
  renewed old memories that reminded me even if I could (which
  I had doubts) do the work, I was not willing to put my dog at
  risk to the hazards that Task force One dogs are subject to.

  He takes his tasks willingly and seriously .. he's a lot like
  his dad. He's a very talented tracking dog, a wonderful gentleman,
  consummate clown, noble companion, loyal friend, and helpful
  assistant.

  It's hard to believe that you can get so attached so fast.
  He feels to everyone who meets him as a continuum of his father,
  with the stability of his mother.

  He runs out to the road, gets the newspaper and brings it
  in as one of his favorite tasks. He looks for jobs he can
  do, and picks up all the dog pans after eating, and hands
  them to me, just like his dad did. He's constantly on the
  prowl looking for something he can do where he can help.

  He fills all the places that his dad used to be. No he
  won't replace his dad, but he's filled the huge gaping
  chasm that his dad left, and eased the hurt, and created
  joy.

  He also has his joyful moments. He likes to ride in the
  car, and adjusts the air vents to blow in his face. He
  hasn't learned to turn the cold control knobs yet, or he
  would turn the car into a mobile igloo. He has learned
  to operate door knobs, and nothing is out of his reach
  unless crated.

  Leaving the house for a few minutes and coming in to his
  surprises such as finding bras dangling from ceiling fans,
  and his projects strewn from one end of the house to the
  other, or finding him all wrapped up in venetian blinds
  as he tried to follow my progress outside, reminds me he
  is NOT his dad, and is his ownunique personality.

  Although I might look at his antics with discernment,
  afterwards, it's good for a chuckle.

  He's a puppy after all, and needs to be contained
  when he's not being supervised.

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     Here's diddler's MOST SUCCESSFUL trainin -

Here's diddler trainin her neighbor's
dog to stay HOWETA her garbage can:

"My Husband Shot A Dog That Had Been Tearing Up Trash
Up And Down Our Road For Years Making An Unbelievable
Mess. When We Finally Killed The Culprit, The Whole
Road Cheered," diddler.

From: diddy (d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way
I would react. There would be none left standing
to deal with the threat just in case.

If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
continents stop me from pursuing justice.

Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If
someone is feeding his dog outside, his own
dog might not mean THAT much to him.

If he was feeding his dog outside though, many
dogs are food aggressive, and that could most
certainly spark a dog aggression thing.

(and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what
was it doing in his yard?)

I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my
horses and called him to help me find it. I would
do the same for threatening my dog.

My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
trash up and down our road for years making an
unbelievable mess.

When we finally killed the culprit, the whole road
cheered. Animal control had never been able in
years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....
and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from
NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)

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"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns95D87E1A8C786danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in thread news:XxUDd.1053$ef6.586@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Sarah"  <glyce...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:
> > Anyone have any suggestions for a golden (1yr old)
> > who won't stop retrieving my son's toys, especially
> > stuffed animals.

> I have an elkhound that does this all day long.
> I simply --take it from her, put it on my desk,
> and give her a cookie and tell her "THANK YOU"
> She never stops either  ;)

IOW, you got THE SAME PROBLEM and NO METHOD, eh diddler?

> I have a 12 week old puppy, he's retrieving, tracking
> (limited), getting slippers for me,  I play scent games
> with him (the old shell game, treat under cups game),
> He's learning to search for toys, and knows they are
> worth far more when redeemed to me,

Yeah:

"As a result, my desk top looks like a disaster area,

Duh? You need a EXXXCUSE?

 "and when I can't find my monitor any more, I take a
 huge sweep of the arm and knock them all on
 the floor."

And do it again...

 "Then she goes to work picking them all up again,
  insuring that  NOTHING ever touches the floor."

Yeah...

 "I feel blessed."

INDEEDY!

 "I used to have TWO compulsive retrieving elkhounds"

You mean you COULDN'T STOP THEM from STEALIN STUFF.

 "working overtime!"

IN FACT, you CAN'T STOP THEM.

That's what the OP wanted to learn HOWE to do, diddler.

REMEMBER?

 "Ahhhh for those days again!"

You been takin your anti psychotic medications, diddler?

 "I want the original back!"

You got it, diddler.

 "A full desk means I'm loved."

No, a full desk means your dogs are hyperactive
and obsessive compulsively bringin you stuff on
accHOWENT of YOU DON'T KNOW HOWE
TO TRAIN THEM NOT TO.

> than they are as treasures hidden under a bed.

OR maybe like your vet's office kitty locked in a crate?

> We spend time working on heeling, sits, downs, prolonging
> the stay, stand for exam, and walking in the woods off leash,
> introducing him to wildlife, so that he doesn't have such
> intense curiosity that he forgets to listen.

Oh! You mean like your "TRACKING" dog Danny?

 You had to surgically ***ually mutilate IT to stop IT
from "gettin distracted" in the field from his
"TRACKIN WORK". REMEMBER diddler?

> I take him out in the barnyard aand allow him to chase
> chickens, and the rabbits (on a cord) so that I can check
> him,

You mean jerk and choke IT, don't you, diddler.

> and teach him  "LEAVE IT" and am able to re-enforce it.

Ahhh! THAT'S HOWE COME dogs STEAL STUFF when YOU
AIN'T THERE to JERK an CHOKE them <{); ~ ) >

> He can be in full pursuit, and when I yell
> "LEAVE IT" he instantly stops chase.

But YOU CAN'T TRAIN IT NOT TO DO THAT in the first place!

> The barnyard has interesting smells and
> tastes, "leave it" becomes useful.

You mean, when you CAN'T TRAIN YOUR OWN DOG
NOT TO DO STUFF IT SHOULDN'T DO, ain't THAT
correct, diddler?

> He has a very reliable "Leave it" and recall.

So long as you're ABLE TO HURT HIM when he don't listen.

>  Becaause he does..

INDEED?

> at 12 weeks, he's already reliable off leash.

Yeah, THAT'S NORMAL for a PUPPY. Wait till IT
is eight months old, you'll NEVER be able to
CON-TROLL IT witHOWET your SHOCK COLLAR <{); ~ ) >

> He's met many strange dogs, and knows to stand
> steady or come to me, if other dogs rush him.

BWEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!

> I'm saying this, because at 12 weeks, he's already
> grasped these skills. I've turned his desire to play
> chase me (which stealing the slippers is a form of)
> into bring to me. I've become his personal entertainment
> director.

You're a MENTAL CASE diddler.

> If a puppy of 12 weeks can grasp these things,

You mean SHOES and barnyard chickens, diddler?

> a dog that is already picking up objects, can be
> reversed in a short time to bring them to you instead.

That so? You mean by throwin a can of pennies
at IT while "wavin a stinkin dead macrel under
his nose withHOWET LETTIN HIM SEE IT", diddler?

> Your dog is obviously hungry for some sort of game
> and mental stimulation. TRAIN him, and satiate that
> desire, and redirect that intelligence to be beneficial
> and entertaining to you both (as well as useful to you).

The original poster was lookin to TRAIN HIS DOG NOT TO
STEAL SHOES, not develop a GAME to enterTRAIN hisself.

> He's asking for mental stimulation. Give it to him, on
> YOUR terms. He sounds like a dog that has a lot going
> for him, with a lot to offer.

Oh? Like that DEAD DOG you shot for eatin garbage, diddler?

From: diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 07:30:27 -0500
Local: Wed, Mar 6 2002 8:30 am
Subject: Re: teaching dogs "jobs"

(They were taught NEVER EVER to step on a road....
No foot EVER touches the road!) Danny lost a tracking
test once, because the test crossed a seldom used
gravel road. When he reached the road, a car just
happened to go by.

He refused to cross the road, and when I took him by
the collar and ****ged him, I was Disqualified for aiding
the dog. Danny simply will NOT cross a road.. when he was
intact, not EVEN for a ***** in season.

Now you have a dog that...

                     WHOOOOPS!

        Whoops, Danny And Taya run away from
        unsecured yard and imbecile owner BUT
        CAREFULLY AVOID CROSSIN A ROAD.

        Will they survive life out in the wilderness
        out amongst diddler's coyote traps?

        Will they get mistaken for coyotes and sold
        to the highest bidder at the fur auction?

        Or will they live again to do a help dummy diddy
        do a demonstration on safe and responsible pet
        owner****p in the kitchen with the vet's office kitten?

        Stay tuned, fans...

diddy wrote:

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > We have a beagle. Before we got our last one,
 > we knew what to expect and spent a year re-enforcing
 > the fence.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > What we did.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > Double fencing, hardware cloth lined on the inside.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> Wood ties under gates.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> A chicken wire apron extending out into the yard
> 12 inches.(hog ringed to the upright fencing).

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > We chose chicken wire because it was flexible
 > and ground conforming. grass grows right over
 > it, making it invisible and easy to mow over.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > It's tacked down by tent stakes every 10 inches.
 > (this is our most considerable investment)

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > The problems with it is that it eventually disintegrates,
 > rusts, pulls apart and need repair a lot.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 >  We placed tile blocks over the top, because
 >  the tent stakes stick up, and sometimes get
 > hit by the lawnmower.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > Overall, it's a pretty decent system and works
 > MOST of the time.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > The beagle is persistent, and tends to work the inner
 > fencing, that's flimsy down, or tear it, making exit holes.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

>  We recently cut down a couple yard trees that broke
> down sections of the fence and they need re-enforcement.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > When the weather breaks, a whole new fence is
 > in order, but the system works MOST of the time.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > We did install an underground perimeter E-fence
 > at the fence line, and found a single strand 12 inch
 > high electric cattle fence around the perimeter was
 > just as effective, cheaper, less bothersome (no need
 > to wear heavy e-collars.. especially that mess up coats),
 > but both needed occassional maintenence.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > What we did.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > I admit our system fails occassionally, especially
 > when snow drifts are over the top of the fences
 > and erase any identifiable fenceline.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > We installed (BEFORE getting the beagle) a 100
 > foot trolly line that crosses the yard.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > This is a safe, effective restraint system that has
 > always worked when immediate repairs or extra
 > security is desired.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > If I go away and leave the beagle outside. He goes
 > to the trolly line, whether the containment system
 > is currently working or not.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > It's great for emergency situations, and the $17 last
 > resort system gets used for the beagle far more than
 > I ever expected. It still allows reasonable exercise
 > range of area and mobility. The elkhounds and the
 > beagle still play avidly, and it's the cheapest piece of
 > mind security ever.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > A trolly tether system is the best for tem****ary
 > containment while discovering where the leak is.
 > In the snow, it's easy to discover the
 > leak. In the summer, it's more difficult.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

 > I do not like, or use our current underground collar system

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

            ---------------

MOORE FUN W/DIDDY and what DANNY and
TAYA (with heelp from TOBY) did with the Vet's
OFFICE KITTEN after they got home from RUNNING
AWAY BUT DIDN'T CROSS A STREET!:

DIDDY ON CATS (shoot, don't trap)

From: diddy
(d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet owner****p.

I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.

To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny
will not look at a cat. When confronted with one,
Danny wees himself and cowers hiding behind me
for help.

I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has
never been harmed by any of the dogs. Danny is there
all the time, unsupervised, and has no interest in
harming the cat.

                -----------------------

From: diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 11:27:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK

Cate wrote:

> "Jeff Harper" <dummyaddr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:aqgn8c$9ss69$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
> > | trash up and down our road for years making an
> > | unbelievable mess. When we finally killed the
> > | culprit, the whole road cheered. Animal control
> > | had never been able in years to catch this critter.
> > | (we think it was feral it was certainly unkempt
> > | enough to have been....and it had been shot at by
> > | MANY of the neighbors, but it never frightened
> > | it off enough to keep it from NOT tearing up the
> > | road the next trash day)

> > Y'all take killing dogs pretty lightly.  I'd have tolerated
> > the trash problem before I would have killed the dog.

> No kidding.

> > But putting up with it wouldn't have been necessary.
> > The trash could have been better secured and the
> > problem would have been resolved.

> Yep. Where's the condemnation of the people not
> securing their trash. Especially since, IIRC, this is
> the country we're talking about.
>
> Cate

They were in the standard Rumpke plastic
waste containers they MUST be in.

 If you are upset I advise you to keep your dogs at home.

As i repeated before, the time Danny and Taya got loose,
for all the dangers they faced out there, cars, disease,
coyotes, etc, the most immediate danger they were in,
was being shot.

This is why I immediately started canvassing the area
with full color door to door handouts emblazoned with
REWARD. DO NOT SHOOT these dogs across the top.

I knew every second they were loose, they were in grave
danger of being shot. At that time, Our dog pound was
 on 20/20 for being one of the worst in the country (it's
 not now, it's a modern model facility) i WANTED my
 dogs there.

It meant they weren't out there being shot.

They would throw dogs in  pens of 10-20 dogs, In spite
 of the dirt and filth, if they got there, I had a chance of
recovery.

Roaming in this area is a very bad thing,
 and people WILL shoot dogs.

Happens all the time.

If you like your dog, you keep it home.

A persons personal animals are more valueable to
 them than your animal you don't think enough of to
 keep at home.

                      --------------

 I was in that position once when Becky was hit
 by a car when my son left the yard gate open.

Every Rescue Elkhound that I have ever had Cruciate ligament
surgery done on had straight stifles. I've never  had one that
was properly  angulated tear. It would make sense that a dog
with greater angulation would put more stress on the tendons,
yet the straight angulation dogs in my experience, have been
the ones with cruciate ligament tears. When you mentioned that
was her only conformational fault.. I'm thinking..

kachink! Another one!

             ------------------

    Cruciate ligament failure is CAUSED BY STRESS
    from MISHANDLING, GARBAGE COMMERCIAL DIET and
    TOXIC VETERINARY MALPRACTICE <{}: ~ ( >

Here's diddler hurting and murderin innocent
defenseless dumb critters for FUN and PROFIT:

         From: diddy (d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re:
         cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse? Date:
         2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST

         Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It
         leaped, and tangled itself, and most certainly
         strangulated it's intestines. It had the snare
         pulled tight down to the diameter of a dime (just
         large enough to encircle the spine) around the waist
         area. This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to
         extricate this cat was exceedingly difficult, not to
         mention dangerous. Because I feared damage to the
         intestines and death of the gut, I imagined
         this cat was not likely to survive.

         It would have been much simpler to dispatch the
         unfortunate cat and take out the dead body. Instead,
         this cat wore a collar. it deserved a chance, and
         the owner deserved closure. (no id on the collar) .

         It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be
         taken to the vet for examination. I will probably
         never know if this particular cat survives the
         experience or not.

         People in the area were aware that trapping was
         being done and apparently still let their cats run
         free, both endangered by the traps and by the
         coyotes being targeted that are causing a problem
         with their cat population.

         Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not
         have tried to release this hostile cat. Releasing it
         may not have been a kindness, but then... cats
         weren't supposed to be attracted to this type of
         trap, in this position, and then they weren't
         supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this
         situation. If you like your pet, you keep them home.

         -----------------------------------------------------

            UNLESS of curse your backyard is POISONED:

 Date: 2002-12-29 21:07:12 PST

HOWEDY Diddler,

"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:3E0FA841.80A2FB0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> EAINDY wrote:
> > Well, once again I caught my 4 yr old male Golden
> > Retriever - German Shepherd mix digging frantically in
> > back yard this afternoon and eating something.  He is
> > completely obsessed with whatever is down there. The hole
> > is about 6" deep and only about as wide as his muzzle.  I
> > see nothing when I look in hole when he is done.  I live
> > in Indiana, and the ground has not frozen up for the
> > winter.   My female Husky does the same thing although not
> > as frantically.  I just recently spent $1000 on him in
> > emergency vet bills, xrays, 2 days in hospital, etc for
> > bloody diarreah and vomiting  which happened after another
> > dig-eat episode a few weeks ago.  I'm not sure the digging
> > and eating was the cause, but I suspect it.  But then
> > there have been other digging episodes where he didn't get
> > sick. Almost exactly 2 yrs ago, I had a similar episode
> > with him.

> Mine do that when they are digging for Grubs (June Bugs)

Sounds like fun, diddler. Do you sell their bodies
or use them for potions?

> Degrubbing the yard with Diazinon works a treat.

They like that, do they?  I'll go get some. I just LOVE
listenin to them singin their little hearts out on hot
summer days. Kind reminds Your Puppy Wizard when
he was just a Wiz kid, of the cabin in the mountains at
the sea shore we spent summers.

> My neighbors also quit having skunk/mole/dog digging
> problems when they treated their yard for grubs.

Yeah. That's what I was afraid of, diddler.

Didn't they take Diaz off the market about a year or two ago?
I don't think poisonin the yard with a dog that you KNOW eats
dirt and stuff is WISE. No wonder your neighbor quit havin
that problem. I don't think our OP wants to solve the diggin
problem by killin the dog, diddler.

Your Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method
students cure digging in a few minutes over a couple of
days, maybe less.

              -------------

HOWEDY diddler,

"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:3DFE2573.4FB348F2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> diddy wrote:
> > a precocious lurker wrote:
> > > diddy wrote:
> > > >I don't think under the cir***stances described, Leah
> > > > is NOT guilty of theft. Deception, possibly.. but
> > > > that's really iffy. She has broken no laws.  Her
> > > > behavior has not fullfilled an ethical or moral
> > > > standard as would be expected from a professional
> > > > trainer.

> > > And when you shot the neighbor's dog, you did so to
> > > avoid the moral dilemma which Leah is being raked over
> > > the coals for? You know, you could have took the dog in
> > > and fed him, loved him, trained him and dewormed him,
> > > like leah has done. And your horses would have been
> > > safe.

> > > But apparently, instead, you did the right thing...
> > > and shot him.

> > **** OFF MIKEY

> Excuse me Mikey, I just traced this.

Did you now, diddler? Kinda like huntin, ain't it?

> **** OFF JERRY! *PLONK*

Sorry diddler, you got me wrong, just like you did
all them kats and your dog ****in blood, diddler.
You can't shoot strangle or track straight.

HOWEDY diddler,

di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (diddy) wrote in
<3DFD2FC9.F7120...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:

> Wayne wrote:
>> Just curious if these methods are still encouraged;

koehler is recommended by our professor SCRUFF SHAKE
when the dog is too big and too dangerous to scruff shake
noMOORE.

> > I personally could never do it.

Most of our experts are devout koehler fans.

HOWEver, they'll deny they use the painful parts. koehler
warns against that, sez that's HOWE COME people got
to kill their dogs, cause they don't follow the method
EXACTLY. Just like HOWE it sez in your FREE copy
of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual.

Only difference is, koehler sez you can't STOP hurting,
your FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual sez
you can't even scream NO or scruff shake your dog.

>> Wayne

>There are still some old advocates,

You mean all our expert advisors here on
our dog forums, diddler.

> mostly in the law enforcement and security dog world.

Not noMOORE, diddler.

> This method separates the squeamish and soft dogs

Is that so, diddler? What's a SOFT dog, diddler? I never
heard of a soft dog. Are you talkin soft like fat assed and
lazy, like our experts here? Or are you talkin soft like in
out of shape MENTALLY?

Or do you mean to say dogs that can't take a lot of BEATIN?

> (something that is detrimental in LE)

Is that so, diddler? You mean dogs in security and police and
military work should LIKE being BEATEN? Is that DESIRABLE?

> from those hard dogs that let anything bounce off them

Anything, diddler? You mean like BULLETS? Or do you mean
like TRAINING STICKS and SHOCKING and CHOKING, diddler?

Are you talking about a dog that don't MIND being choked and
shocked and beaten and hung? Is that what you mean by hard
Vs soft dogs, diddler?

> as if it never happened.

Yeah. It never happened, diddler. NOBODY here hurts dogs.
Ask matty. Ask Binaca bethFIST. Ask janet boss. Ask Master
Of Deception blankman and melanie and leah and liea and
professor scruff shake?

> I would hope those training for pet use would not find his
> methods of the 1930's and 40's still logical.

Well, well, well, diddler. I guess you must be a newbie here.
Either that, or you're one of the LYING DOG ABUSING THUG
COWARDS we got here who hurts and kills dogs and LIES
about it, diddler? Naaah. Not YOU. You're even on our kat
forums.

> I shudder reading them,

Do you now, diddler? Some of us CRINGE.

> and thank forward moving trainers for
> moving us out of the dark ages.

Oh, indeedy, diddler. Thank you for sup****ting pain fear
intimidation and death.

> You would think he hates dogs.

Naah. He's a professional dog trainer, diddler. Most of our
dog lovers here swear by their koehler method for the really
tough dogs. The ones that LIKE to be beaten and HUNG.

Meanwhile, the heel with koehler diddler, we got a worse
s***bag to identify and expose. That be YOU:

From: diddy <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:07:51 -0500

Subject: Re: "Timmie's in the well!!"

BethF wrote:

> "diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:3E244F7F.D6398764@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > BethF wrote:

> > > "Shelly" <s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > > news:v2807shbe9h152@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Since Bodhi has arrived, Coda has earned himself a new
> > > > nickname: "Fun Police".
> > > > (Regardless if it's something he would've done as a puppy or not!)

> > > LOL!  Isn't that funny - kind of the opposite of Kavik.

> >  Danny is a fun police also!! Miss Reka and Mr beeeeegs frustratingly
> > just ignore him. (Danny never did those things in his youth, however,
> > as  he was a very serious puppy, hence, I thought he had a potential
> > temperament problem and didn't sell him)

> Temperment problems?  Isn't that funny.  Danny.  Temperment
> problems.  Its a damn good thing you didn't sell him though.

Dannys mother had temperament problems.. and I had leased her to
breed (she was a top producing kennel dog), when brought into a home
condition, she had no resiliency. She was finished as a puppy in just
5 shows, and then never left the kennel again except to whelp puppies.
I very much admired her structure/pedigree/bloodlines/health
testing/"get and their performance records"

She had just had a litter and had to be bottle raised because she had
no milk. The breeder lamented that she thought she would probably not
ever be bred again because of the milk problem. I took her home on
vacation.   however i signed legal lease papers with a breeding
clause.

I never intended to breed her. I thought the papers i was
signing was to prevent me from breeding her.

After keeping her for two years, the breeder told me it was time to
breed her and return half the litter that I owed during her "lease"

I told her I did NOT want to breed her, and her phobia about leaving
fences, fear of noises, etc was not something i wanted to have in a
dog.

She said i "OWED" her a 1/2 litter of puppies per contract.  i long ago
threw out my contract, and she sent me a copy of hers. Sure enough, I
HAD to breed her. I argued that she was not temperamentally sound.

She was a ditz, and trying to work with her only to find her so
institutionalized that when she dissappeared, she was ALWAYS
standing at the gate ****vering wanting to get INTO the safety of
 the fenced yard.

(running away was not an issue with her.. she couldn't stand being in
a decision making situation,, and couldn't stand being outside a
fence... hardly the kind of dog that fits my lifestyle)

I did the obligatory breeding, and never dealt with that breeder
again.

Danny was an offspring of tthat litter. I was worried looking for
instability. Her offspring from other litters had a history of being
darlings, but with the neurotic behavior she had) Danny would never
play. He would sit analyzing anything the other puppies did, and if
they screamed, he would never do what they did again. He wouldn't
 play... He just watched, deciding what was ok.. and what wasn't.

He figured if a puppy screamed while they were roughhousing, all
roughhousing was bad. He'd be in the middle of the pack trying to
break them up (fun police).. he took this to extreme in every facet
of his life, and I feared he was going to be like his mom, and
eventually aftraid to leave the fence.

The home I had picked for him had two little boys, and I was afraid
they would intimidate him (in spite of them being great and gentle
little boys, into being a fear biter if forced beyond the bounds of what
he thought he was appropriate.) So i kept Danny and gave this family
glowing refeerrals to another family.

They watched Danny grow up, and his accomplishments, and felt that I
kept "Their" dog out of selfish reasons.  They knew he was a "star" and
just kept him from them *sigh*

Danny was the easiest yet hardest dog i ever had to train in my life.
He was bright, tried never to make any mistakes, you only showed him
something once, he took learning so seriously that he would practice.

Yet if he failed or misunderstood, he crashed. He'd be afraid to try it
again, or assume the whole exercise was wrong, and he was to never
 do that exercise again. If he feared he was going to make a mistake,
he stood there like a statue with his eyes closed and just shook.

He has been since VERY young, a perfectionist. He's still a
perfectionist. Yes, I considered this a temperament fault when
carried to this extreme. He worries about perfection even now,
 until he gets ulcers  :)

He did not belong in the home that was supposed to be his. That home
lost their dog they got instead, because the kids let the gate open, and
the dog ran out and got killed in traffic. I'm glad he stayed.

His puppies also have that sensitivity and perfectionist streak. In the
right hands, it's a gift. In the wrong hands, it's a disaster. Is it a
temperament problem? yes and no.. it's not a temperament just any
family usa should have and could deal with. so in essence, it's a
temperament problem. To me, and those homes who got his puppies,
 and then had me do in home visits to teach them how to handle it have
found it a special gift. He's definitely a dog that is not for
everyone.

His great great grandfather was also known more for his intelligence
than his champion****p, He won a National Specialty, and yet he was
bred twice, and his puppies had the same wierdness and intelligence.

MOST people couldn't handle them, and he got neutered. Never-the-less,
Danny has three crosses in his pedigree to this same fruity dog. I think
he
got it honestly.

On the same note, Danny p***** it on. I had to work with every one of
those puppies in their homes. Every one of them spent a month or more
in my house at a year old doing rehab , before I spent a week or morein
their owners houses teaching them how to train and work with their pups.

A litter that requires this DOES have temperament issues. At the same
time, each of these families has their name on a list, should I ever
breed Danny again (He has semen on store) I sold every pup on a
spay/neuter contract (this was before limited registration)

One violated that contract and bred their dog anyway. He's a champion
and as the only pup from Danny that was ever bred, many people bred
to him. Those puppies did NOT have the sup****t my Danny puppies had,
and there were a bunch of disturbed and temperament problems in those
litters. I've been rescueing Elkhounds trying to clean up the mess
since.

You could never guess by looking at Danny that there was a
temperament problem. It was trained out when he was very young. It's
non-existant.. but it's there in his genes.. in that can in storage.
It's the reason I never bred him again. Although I would "like to"
someday. If I could find the right *****, and knew that she would
have only "ONE" puppy.. for "me".

I had discovered that that very temperament weakness was his strength
that made him very special. Because it takes special handling to turn
it from detriment to gift.. I _do_ consider it a "problem".

                  ---------------------------------

                   And then you WONder...
                And then you don't <{}: ~ ( >

             BWEEEAAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
 




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