Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)

cindi wrote:
> On Jul 11, 7:04 pm, Bill Kambic <wkam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:55:26 -0700 (PDT), LandShark
> 
>> What pushes the lady a few degrees off plumb is her RABID defense of
>> the theories of Pete Ramey
> 
> LOL.  Right.  Pete is somebody wh doesn't know much.  Um, yeah.
> Furthermore, rabid?  You are certainly entitled to your opinion but
> jeeze, if this is rabid, I'd hate to say what you'd think about
> somebody who really was rabid...

Would Pete Ramey shoe the horses up in the Cariboo?  If not, is he right 
or are Laurel's friends right on this?

> 
>> (he could fix my mare with frankly average
>> feet so she could go barefoot even though her hoof quality is is no
>> better than average; unless the boy has perfected gene splicing for
>> hoof tissue that's not going to happen).
> 
> I'm just sayin', Pete is arguably the best barefoot trimmer out there,
> and if you haven't worked with him, you can't say for sure your mare
> can't go barefoot.

I would fly him out here if he thought he could get Pancake BF and 
comfortable.


>> She has fundamental contradictions in her postings.  She says that all
>> horses can go barefoot, then backtracks and says a few might need
>> shoes.  
> 
> All horses who are not totally screwed up already should be able to go
> barefoot.  

See comment about Laurel's friends shoeing the colts up in the Cariboo.

I have allowed that Sharons Super Sharp Sand is something I
> have not personally experienced, but I have talked to a few
> barefooters who say it's not a problem.  I guess unless we have them
> ride at Sharon's place we'll never know for sure.  I think I have also
> allowed that a horse with a fracture to the navicular bone or coffin
> bone might do OK in a shoe, but I am very leery of them since I
> believe they reduce circulation and you need circulation to heal.  I
> have also allowed the show jumpers might need shoes so they can have
> studs attached, but the new boots have available studs also, so that's
> getting to be a moot point.
> 
>> She says that shoes cause injury but it's not cruel to use
>> them.  
> 
> Lots of things cause injury to horses and it's OK and not cruel to do
> it.  We all do the best we can since after all, an injured horse is no
> good to any of us.  Furthermore I've said that sure, some horses are
> shod their whole lives with no obvious problems - it's certainly not
> cruel to use shoes if your horse is not having any obvious problems
> from them.  I personally feel that I have learned enough to not to
> ever want to shoe a horse again.  

Would you shoe a horse with a -3 degree PA on one hind?

(snip)

>> Flake?  Somebody without a clue?  Something else?  You tell me.
> 
> I don't know what flake means when you and Ray use it.  I always
> thought the word flake referred to a person who said they'd be
> somewhere or do something and then didn't...
> 
> As for a clue, I'll let the people who certify me, the people who use
> my services, and my horses let me know how much of a clue I do or
> don't have.  I'm still learning!  :-)

I'm decommissioning you from the Woo-Woo clan and drumming you out.  I 
think you have sufficiently hedged your comments.  There are others on 
other fora who have you beat by a mile.

sharon