Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)

On Jul 9, 9:16=A0pm, cindi <allisonac...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Jul 9, 2:59=A0pm, Bill Kambic <wkam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> I think you've had crappy experiences with boots. =A0I don't find them
> very convenient or easy to put on

How hard is it to put on a boot?  It's neither rocket science nor
especially physically challenging.

 but they work great, the newer ones
> especially. =A0If I could have the same health benefits from my horses
> of keeping them unshod and using boots when necessary while having
> somebody else come apply the boots when needed, I'd be one happy
> camper. =A0I can barely breathe when bent over due to Fat Tummy
> Syndrome.

No comment.

> =A0Boots eventually wear out, and they are expensive.

Not compared to regular shoeing they're not.  Dover sells Easy Boots
for about $43 so call it $200 including ****pping for 4 boots.  That's
a touch more than what it costs me to trim and shoe one horse and trim
another.  About en eighth of the annual cost.

 =A0Even
> barefoot trimming is expensive, more expensive for me than shoeing was

Doesn't it suggest something when you get charged more for a service
that is no different than normal?  I know you think "mustang roll" is
a hot new idea, but IME, a farrier trim is the same as a barefoot
specialist trim.  You've posted photos of hooves with cracks that are
normal in your experience which are bizarre.  I don't know why finding
a competent farrier in the most horse-populated state is so
difficult.  You've indicated before you deal principally with damaged
horses - they are hardly representative.

> > Perhaps. =A0Perhaps not.
>
> Fromhttp://www.equinextion.com/id48.html
>
> "We misinterpret so-called "stone bruising" of the soles of shod
> horses as being caused by stones on the ground. This pattern of
> bruising originates from concussion followed by pressure necrosis of
> solar corium that cannot escape the blows of the coffin bone above and
> an unyielding sole beneath."

Quotes like this belie your earlier statement that only dishonest
sellers/brokers name stone bruises as occurrences related to actual
stone-caused bruises.  Assuming you would accept someone else's actual
experience as relevant, my TB recently had his first-ever hoof injury
which resulted from - surprise! - a stone found wedged into the hoof.
He was lame, it abcessed within a week and squirted out his heel bulb
two days later after which he was immediately sound on it.  Ringer has
a highly yielding sole - hence his response to rocks.  Real rocks, not
the pebbles I see in your pics.  It's not pressure from above that
caused the problem, it was a stone.

=46rom the website you posted:

"I submit that any acceptable method of hoof care should provide the
hoof capsule with the ability to:
=B7Flex and torque in all directions in response to changes in terrain
=B7Assist in the movement of blood and lymph through weight-driven pump
mechanics
=B7Protect sensitive inner structures from physical and environmental
variables
=B7Exfoliate itself in a process that eliminates old and stimulates new
growth
=B7Transfer sensory information about the environment to the central
nervous system"

It's odd that this vet doesn't consider factors such as protecting the
external structure from environmental variables or palliating/
eliminating pain or meeting the horse's work requirements.  Further,
the vast majority of horses do not experience limited blood movement
or lack of exfoliation or lack of sensory communication, let alone
adverse effect from shoeing.  Focussing only on exceptions and
manifested problems as though they are universals damages his
credibility.

How much transitional pain should horses experience while they develop
their new improved hooves?