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Re: lameness question

by cindi <allisonacres@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 7, 2008 at 01:24 AM

On Jul 6, 8:37=A0pm, Caelan <dippenflip...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Yup. It's my new horse. I have him on trial. I think the trial just
> ended. I have a feeling this is not going to be a smooth backwards
> transaction, however.

I'm so sorry.

>
> Three duds in a row now. This is really heart breaking since he is an
> absolute *doll* tempermentwise. Just the sweetest horse you could
> imagine. And dead quiet. Any quieter and I think he would be actually
> dead, but hes light and neck reins well and really steps out too.
> Because he was so sweet and from a dealer I knew, I decided to roll
> the dice and take the broker at their word that the horse had a stone
> bruise and would come sound.

Stone bruise is a horse trader code word for dead lame of unknown
cause (or unspeakable cause)... I know Sharon says Pete had one, but
I've never seen a stone bruise in the 100 horses that have been in and
out of here, and I was sitting around talking to 4 other horse sellers
and one vet the other day and they all said they think stone bruises
are bull****.  That is ALWAYS what the seller will tell you is going
on, because it sounds so tem****ary and so not related to anything
about the specific horse.

> =A0Is there a test which can be performed to see if the horse was
> injected or chemically altered somehow

Yes but it might be too late.  I had blood pulled for a drug test on
one of the horses I just bought at the Horse Expo and the vet wanted
to come out before 24 hours had elapsed from the time I had last seen
the horse behaving himself and therefore potentially drugged.  So I
think you are out of luck.  But that was for tranquilizers, not bute.
Maybe there would still be evidence of bute. (An aside, we never
tested the blood - this horse just needed time to settle in to a new
owner, more so than most horses.  My vet held the blood while I worked
the horse for a couple days and decided if I thought it should be
tested or not.  I decided not.)

I didn't see answers to the feed questions I had... I am hoping that
it's not a new laminitis induced by a feed change because I think you
might be liable for that.  I really would have the vet out ASAP - tell
the seller what is going on and see what she wants to do but if the
horse winds up being yours, you probably really want to minimize
whatever damage might be occuring.  Your PPE vet might do it as a
recheck sort of thing which might be less expensive.  Did you two have
any agreement on who is responsible for any vet fees that might be
incurred during the trial period?  I think you should have the vet out
also because if you don't, and if she does take the horse back, she
might be able to have you held liable for not providing care.  If he
rotates... that could be bad.

Keep us updated.
cindi
 




 157 Posts in Topic:
lameness question
Caelan <dippenflipper@  2008-07-06 18:02:03 
Re: lameness question
Eileen Morgan <egm12@[  2008-07-06 21:25:38 
Re: lameness question
Hunter Hampton <airstr  2008-07-06 21:34:13 
Re: lameness question
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-06 21:37:54 
Re: lameness question
Caelan <dippenflipper@  2008-07-06 18:41:18 
Re: lameness question
Dawn J-L <tjoneslo@[EM  2008-07-06 18:49:18 
Re: lameness question
NancyD.LMT@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-06 18:52:37 
Re: lameness question
Brian Whatcott <betwys  2008-07-06 21:20:25 
Re: lameness question
" Jill" <new  2008-07-07 07:25:32 
Re: lameness question
Caelan <dippenflipper@  2008-07-06 19:20:31 
Re: lameness question
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-06 19:32:17 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Caelan <dippenflipper@  2008-07-07 15:16:12 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-08 16:48:00 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Mary Healey <ameszoo@[  2008-07-09 12:53:35 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
CMNewell <minglewoode@  2008-07-09 17:05:04 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Mary Healey <ameszoo@[  2008-07-09 21:23:03 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
CMNewell <minglewoode@  2008-07-09 17:42:33 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
"JJ" <jeffer  2008-07-10 11:16:46 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-09 17:59:26 
Cindi's Visit was Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
LandShark <landsharkru  2008-07-11 20:55:18 
Re: Cindi's Visit was Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness questio
Laurel Reddick <lreddi  2008-07-12 04:17:40 
Re: Cindi's Visit was Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness questio
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-11 21:33:51 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-09 18:16:50 
Re: lameness question
Caelan <dippenflipper@  2008-07-06 20:37:15 
Re: lameness question
Eileen Morgan <egm12@[  2008-07-06 23:39:48 
Re: lameness question
" Jill" <new  2008-07-07 07:27:26 
Re: lameness question
"J. Z. M." <  2008-07-07 11:35:21 
Re: lameness question
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-07 11:37:55 
Re: lameness question
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-07 01:24:55 
Re: lameness question
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-07 09:16:51 
Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ruth Baltopoulos <rudy  2008-07-07 09:25:10 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-07 09:44:22 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-09 18:16:01 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-12 11:55:08 
Our Visit was Re: Cindi's Visit was Re: Stone Bruise (was Re:
LandShark <landsharkru  2008-07-17 23:27:56 
Re: Our Visit was Re: Cindi's Visit was Re: Stone Bruise (was Re
Laurel Reddick <lreddi  2008-07-18 16:46:36 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
tenwheels@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-11 14:44:51 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-11 17:49:25 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-11 18:59:26 
Re: Stone Bruise
John Hasler <john@[EMA  2008-07-11 18:17:19 
Re: Stone Bruise
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-11 20:04:03 
Re: Stone Bruise
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-11 19:38:02 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-11 19:35:47 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-11 20:13:37 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Laurel Reddick <lreddi  2008-07-12 01:05:36 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-11 21:55:54 
Re: Stone Bruise
John Hasler <john@[EMA  2008-07-11 21:39:31 
Re: Stone Bruise
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-11 22:28:32 
Re: Stone Bruise
John Hasler <john@[EMA  2008-07-11 22:10:32 
Re: Stone Bruise
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-11 22:51:13 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Laurel Reddick <lreddi  2008-07-12 02:45:47 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-11 22:53:38 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Laurel Reddick <lreddi  2008-07-12 03:18:10 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-12 09:04:37 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Laurel Reddick <lreddi  2008-07-12 16:43:43 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-12 14:37:05 
Re: Our Visit was Re: Cindi's Visit was Re: Stone Bruise (was Re
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-18 09:53:49 
Re: lameness question
NancyD.LMT@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-07 06:43:44 
Re: lameness question
NancyD.LMT@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-07-07 08:49:39 
Re: lameness question
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-07 12:01:26 
Re: lameness question
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-07 12:03:14 
Re: lameness question
law <lawiserNot@[EMAIL  2008-07-08 00:48:10 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-07 09:16:26 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ruth Baltopoulos <rudy  2008-07-07 12:52:04 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-07 21:47:33 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-07 12:59:16 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-07 13:00:19 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Eileen Morgan <egm12@[  2008-07-07 13:49:03 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Joyce Reynolds-Ward <j  2008-07-07 11:07:16 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-07 14:51:04 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-11 21:29:38 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-12 09:13:32 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-12 09:22:24 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-12 09:36:24 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-12 09:46:58 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Hunter Hampton <airstr  2008-07-12 10:05:44 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-12 10:13:45 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Hunter Hampton <airstr  2008-07-12 13:36:18 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-12 13:58:49 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Dana Compton <dana.c@[  2008-07-12 09:45:34 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
LandShark <landsharkru  2008-07-12 10:47:20 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-12 14:04:30 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-12 14:45:25 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
tenwheels@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-12 13:21:32 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Alison Hiltabidle <ahi  2008-07-12 16:23:26 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-12 20:54:31 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-12 18:52:51 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-12 23:41:09 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
scamp3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-07 09:43:12 
Re: lameness question
"JJ" <jeffer  2008-07-07 17:08:51 
Re: lameness question
Caelan <dippenflipper@  2008-07-07 10:20:11 
Re: lameness question
" Jill" <new  2008-07-07 18:29:44 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
AKogler <akogler@[EMAI  2008-07-07 10:25:46 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-07 21:35:20 
Re: lameness question
AKogler <akogler@[EMAI  2008-07-07 10:26:35 
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AKogler <akogler@[EMAI  2008-07-07 10:37:36 
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emjaycem@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-07-07 11:07:44 
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"JJ" <jeffer  2008-07-07 19:09:36 
Re: lameness question
LandShark <landsharkru  2008-07-07 12:19:54 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
LandShark <landsharkru  2008-07-07 12:23:06 
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cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-07 14:39:25 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
"Madeline Rockwell&q  2008-07-07 18:59:58 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ruth Baltopoulos <rudy  2008-07-07 19:07:35 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
<raykeller@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-07 16:59:31 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
LandShark <landsharkru  2008-07-12 21:53:12 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-13 07:59:43 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-12 22:54:48 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-13 11:22:23 
Re: lameness question
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-07 14:43:22 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-08 16:26:31 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
"Madeline Rockwell&q  2008-07-09 07:08:54 
Re: Stone Bruise
green_knight@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-09 14:29:27 
Re: Stone Bruise
Dr Corinne B Leek <cle  2008-07-09 11:01:37 
Re: Stone Bruise
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-09 10:04:12 
Re: Stone Bruise
Dr Corinne B Leek <cle  2008-07-09 16:30:46 
Re: Stone Bruise
" Jill" <new  2008-07-09 20:45:10 
Re: Stone Bruise
Dr Corinne B Leek <cle  2008-07-09 17:31:51 
Re: Stone Bruise
svleopold@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-09 22:13:55 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
"Joyleen E. Seymour&  2008-07-10 14:45:33 
Re: lameness question
Dana Compton <dana.c@[  2008-07-08 22:27:46 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Dana Compton <dana.c@[  2008-07-08 22:30:42 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-09 18:17:38 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
JC Dill <jcdill.lists@  2008-07-14 23:23:44 
Re: "stones" was Stone Bruise
Dawn J-L <tjoneslo@[EM  2008-07-09 19:52:56 
Re: "sand" was Stone Bruise
Dawn J-L <tjoneslo@[EM  2008-07-09 19:57:26 
Re: "sand" was Stone Bruise
"JJ" <jeffer  2008-07-10 11:21:44 
Re: "sand" was Stone Bruise
una@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (U  2008-07-10 13:03:05 
Re: "sand" was Stone Bruise
Dawn J-L <tjoneslo@[EM  2008-07-10 06:22:58 
Re: "sand" was Stone Bruise
una@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (U  2008-07-10 14:43:05 
Re: "sand" was Stone Bruise
"Emily Brooks"   2008-07-10 10:46:48 
Re: "sand" was Stone Bruise
Barbara Bailey <rabrab  2008-07-10 17:32:29 
Re: "sand" was Stone Bruise
Dawn J-L <tjoneslo@[EM  2008-07-10 07:56:14 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
LandShark <landsharkru  2008-07-11 12:12:36 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
<raykeller@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-11 12:29:11 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
LandShark <landsharkru  2008-07-17 23:33:08 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
LandShark <landsharkru  2008-07-11 17:55:26 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-11 22:04:37 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Laurel Reddick <lreddi  2008-07-12 03:05:10 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-11 22:47:01 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Laurel Reddick <lreddi  2008-07-12 03:28:46 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2008-07-11 23:14:26 
Re: Stone Bruise
John Hasler <john@[EMA  2008-07-11 22:25:13 
Re: Stone Bruise
Laurel Reddick <lreddi  2008-07-12 03:42:47 
Re: Stone Bruise
John Hasler <john@[EMA  2008-07-12 13:53:02 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
<raykeller@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-11 19:55:11 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-16 00:11:50 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Mary McHugh <emjaycem@  2008-07-16 05:24:03 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ocean of Nuance <lizza  2008-07-16 09:47:21 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Hunter Hampton <airstr  2008-07-16 15:06:53 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Hunter Hampton <airstr  2008-07-16 15:46:16 
Rock, Paper, Scissors (was Stone Bruise)
Ruth Baltopoulos <rudy  2008-07-16 16:09:45 
Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors (was Stone Bruise)
Hunter Hampton <airstr  2008-07-16 17:10:35 
Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors (was Stone Bruise)
"Emily Brooks"   2008-07-16 17:29:36 
Re: Rock, Paper, Scissors (was Stone Bruise)
Ruth Baltopoulos <rudy  2008-07-16 17:34:48 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
JC Dill <jcdill.lists@  2008-07-16 13:55:21 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
cindi <allisonacres@[E  2008-07-16 09:40:38 
Re: Stone Bruise (was Re: lameness question)
Ruth Baltopoulos <rudy  2008-07-16 13:02:59 

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