Re: sore, sore, sore

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:07:18 -0700 (PDT), cindi
<allisonacres@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>On Jun 26, 6:43 pm, MA Sandy <sandrabrown_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> Laminitis did indeed cross my mind, but the farrier should or would
>> have seen blood in the lamina, correct?  And as I said above, I have
>> foundered a horse before, and this really doesn't present the same way
>> EXCEPT for the laying down bit.
>
>No... A laminitic horse will not want to move around much, and he
>might stand in the classic stance of front feet camped out in front,
>and if it's approaching really bad he'll have elevated digital
>pulses.  There won't be any blood upon trimming; the farrier works FAR
>away from anything that would bleed.  In severe cases the coffin bone
>will penetrate the bottom of the foot, but there still isn't much
>blood when that happens, although it is definitely obvious.  They
>often lay down a lot; it's not like arthritic lamenesses where they
>might be afraid to lay down due to how hard it is to get back up -
>with laminitis, a lot mainly prefer to be off their feet and are not
>worried about getting back up.

What Cindi said.

I might add that even after we dry-lotted the Shetland, he still
managed to get another bout of founder on a short exposure to grass. 

It killed him.

>
>You mentioned 5 hours on grass for a horse who's not usually on grass
>- yes, that can absolutely give him laminitis.  And colic.  Check
>www.safergrass.org for grass related laminitis info.

Grass is really more insidious than most people think.  When I first
bought Mocha, I took one look at her and knew I really didn't dare put
her on open turnout on Willamette Valley grass, just based on what I
know about grass founder.  Better to be safe than sorry, and a horse
like her is better off slightly on the skinny side than being allowed
to gain any degree of weight--and keep her off the grass.

jrw