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Re: cont. Parrot worked to Death?

by "Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 25, 2007 at 09:27 AM

M.J. wrote:
> <xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:7681i3hb66vvqk40rpq2s0452pan23spr6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:41:57 -0800, "M.J." <M.J.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> "Dave Bugg" <davebugg2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:%8RTi.87$M44.74@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>> "I've watched that horribly, damning video of the hysterical and
>>>> frantic Alex
>>>> straining at his chain attached to his stand (NOT) while screeching
>>>> uncontrollably to go back to his cage, while snapping aggresively
>>>> at Pepperberg (NOT). It was a horrific scene that just happened to
>>>> be captured
>>>> by a secreted camera that a PETA plant, disguised as a legitimate
>>>> lab assistant, snuck out to expose this boundless cruelty (NOT). I
>>>> was aghast
>>>> as
>>>> that horrible hag, Dr. Pepper-berg, restrained the hapless Alex in
>>>> the avian
>>>> equivalent of a straight jacket while shouting in the poor bird's
>>>> face and
>>>> banging the table with objects that can only be described as
>>>> instruments or
>>>> birdy torture (NOT). That video absolutely proved all allegations
>>>> that mental stress is NOT a fabrication, but an actual fact and it
>>>> killed poor
>>>> Alex (NOT). After all, every single CAG and TAG lives to a minimum
>>>> of 50 years. None has ever been seen to die prior to age 50."
>>>
>>>
>>> You must think of this text as valuavble, or funny, or something?
>>>
>>> Maybe you could show some proof that ALEX'es
>>> environment did not cause his plucking as you claimed,
>>> instead of running away, and staying mumm for days, only
>>> to come back with a childish repeat of above junk.
>>
>> You are the one that made the assertion therefore the burden of proof
>> lays with you. BTW a theory isn't proof.
>
>
> You are confused, or just working to confuse others.
>
> I never claimed that ALEXes environment had nothing to
> do with his plucking problem.

Whooooosh ---  xpenney's point just went right over your head, which is 
hardly surprising given that your abhorent contextual reading skills and 
lack of retention. The burden of proof is always on the one asserting an 
evidentiary 'fact'; i.e. your assertion that the cause of Alex's plucking 
was stress due to training.

I am not obligated to prove a negative, i.e. that the training had nothing

to do with Alex's plucking. Birds pluck for many reasons, and African
Greys 
are notorious pluckers.

Besides all of that, those that handled Alex and knew him best had long
ago 
detailed why Alex plucked. You, who knew Alex not at all, merely lie and 
speculate to uphold your agenda.

-- 
Dave
www.davebbq.com
 




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cont. Parrot worked to Death?
"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-02 00:39:53 
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jmc <NOnewsgroupsSPAM@  2007-10-02 19:00:57 
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"jsaranac" <  2007-10-02 06:58:50 
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"JJ" <jeffer  2007-10-04 14:43:59 
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jmc <NOnewsgroupsSPAM@  2007-10-05 22:58:21 
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cstacy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-10-06 00:13:05 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-06 01:47:39 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-06 05:50:57 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-10-06 15:16:43 
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Bird Lover <nomail@[EM  2007-10-17 21:32:00 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-17 18:44:44 
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Bird Lover <nomail@[EM  2007-10-17 22:29:18 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-18 05:57:28 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-18 11:14:20 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-19 07:09:03 
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"Joanne" <Jo  2007-10-19 09:05:18 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-19 10:18:10 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-19 14:51:57 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-19 15:06:59 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-19 15:35:56 
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John Hasler <john@[EMA  2007-10-19 17:51:44 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-19 23:28:28 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-19 17:04:01 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-19 17:25:01 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-20 03:30:28 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-20 10:34:51 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-20 09:56:46 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-20 21:47:43 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-20 15:26:55 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-20 09:35:59 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-19 15:32:19 
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"M.J.Galinski"   2007-10-19 15:55:51 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-19 23:07:51 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-19 16:47:18 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-19 17:01:56 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-19 17:11:04 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-20 09:43:52 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-19 16:41:30 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-20 09:53:26 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-19 15:28:08 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-19 15:47:12 
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"Wheeler" <r  2007-10-19 15:55:32 
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"Deputy Dog" &l  2007-10-19 23:47:44 
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Bird Lover <nomail@[EM  2007-10-21 19:14:07 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-21 16:33:13 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-21 17:40:34 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-21 18:01:07 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-21 20:47:44 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-21 22:44:16 
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DebbieK <dkrug@[EMAIL   2007-10-24 11:59:24 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-24 15:31:44 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-24 14:08:44 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-24 15:51:31 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-24 17:21:00 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-24 14:06:15 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-24 22:12:14 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-24 23:34:33 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-24 17:09:35 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-24 17:30:35 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-24 17:56:25 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-24 18:03:11 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-24 18:07:32 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-24 19:26:42 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-24 19:44:05 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-25 09:56:49 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-24 17:41:57 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-24 18:02:18 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-25 09:58:40 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 07:18:56 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 09:27:04 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 21:07:30 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-25 17:48:03 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 15:01:56 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 16:59:16 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 18:21:14 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 18:29:28 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 22:09:11 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 22:44:35 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-26 08:10:01 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 09:32:58 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-26 22:59:35 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 17:19:15 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-26 17:41:05 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 17:51:08 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-26 18:03:55 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 18:14:29 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-27 08:12:04 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-26 13:20:25 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 22:32:25 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 16:54:36 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 18:13:08 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 18:28:01 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-26 13:03:21 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 16:51:33 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-25 09:52:42 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 07:15:25 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 09:13:49 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 20:34:21 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 13:52:06 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 14:51:26 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 17:16:54 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 18:09:58 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 18:26:20 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-25 22:12:33 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-25 22:49:26 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-26 08:28:28 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-26 02:26:13 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 09:55:23 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 10:06:55 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 09:47:58 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-26 07:10:22 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 10:02:34 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-26 14:00:27 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 17:16:02 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-26 17:56:01 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 18:12:15 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-26 18:21:07 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 18:30:53 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-27 01:51:04 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 19:04:32 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-27 10:00:41 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-28 02:16:51 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-27 20:14:40 
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skittish <skittish@[EM  2007-10-27 08:59:15 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-27 09:48:59 
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skittish <skittish@[EM  2007-10-27 10:41:32 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-28 16:25:50 
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skittish <skittish@[EM  2007-10-29 12:12:00 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-24 17:04:34 
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Jester's mummy <cocky2  2007-10-24 20:12:12 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-24 17:22:29 
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Steve <sstevelp@[EMAIL  2007-10-26 13:40:59 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-10-26 16:48:40 
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Bird Lover <nomail@[EM  2007-10-21 20:45:50 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-10-22 05:16:00 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-10-02 19:14:18 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-02 21:43:59 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-10-03 19:58:59 
Re: cont. Parrot worked to Death?
"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-03 21:33:38 

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