Re: Parrot worked to death?

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I 've cut out the nonsense from your post, but will reply to your
questions
about preconceived ideas and personal views.  Sure I express my personal
views but these have extensive backing in real empirical data i.e. 
experiences
I have gathered over a perion of nearly 10 years of being an TAG owner.

My 10 year old TAG (Timneh African Grey) Mbeki whom I have raised
and handfed since 6 weeks old is a cute playful and intelligent little 
fellow.
Compared to Alex Mbeki is probalby a great moron as his vocabulary is
only around 6-7 words.  I have subjected Mbeki to learning lessons many
times and have always noticed that the bird tires immensely after about
15-20 minutes of mental exercersise -becomes cranky, and wants to leave,
go back to the  cage, playtop, or whatever.

Sure, slowly and over time he could be made to endure longer and longer
sessions until he probably would be able to withstand a gruelling 8-12
hour
working/learning day, but I know this would not be without a risk of 
negative
long term consequenses.

Mbeki is my pet, and not some ALEX (Avian Learning EXperiment)
therefore I don't "torment" him past the 10-15 minute that he playfully
offers me.

M.J.


>    No, you just want to justify your preconceptions and your personal
> views by taking advantage of any problem that arises from any animal
> research.
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