Re: Parrot worked to death?

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:04:09 +0100, <jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 04:02:29 GMT, "M.J." <M.J.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "max" <betatron@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:13emjp35cthgdc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> In article <zDHGi.26846$eY.6692@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>> "M.J." <M.J.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll repeat once more!
>>>>
>>>> Is this what you did to the poor creature, Ms Irene Pepperberg?
>>>>
>>>> Have him worked to death by your research?
>>>> 8-12 hours a day, every day, of gruelling mental exercise, just to
>>>> find out where the limits of avian intelligence exist!  No wonder
>>>> Alex died so young.
>>>
>>> What you are describing is a death due to prolonged mental stress. 
fine.
>>>
>>> Typically, when an animal, human or otherwise, is under chronic mental
>>> stress,
>>
>>
>> No, it is not fine, as the type of stress Alex was subjected to
>> is not comparable to anything else that an animal may encounter
>> in nature.
>>
>     Neither is talking in human language.

They do this of their own accord.

>> Usually stress means fear, hunger, uncertainty, noise, many other
>> environmental factors.  A 30 year rigorous regiment of learning
>> to think abstractly, admionistered from the earliest age, is a stress
>> factor different than anything a parrot can encounter and there is
>> no way to judge how the creature will react to it (that is long term
>> effect).
>>
>     Really?  Problem solving is something parrots don't encounter
> every day?

Not 100 times a day.


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