Re: Parrot worked to death?

On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:07:56 GMT, "M.J." <M.J.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

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>"M.J." <M.J.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> \<jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>     Bull crap.  Tell that to a squirrel that is trying to get to some
>>> bird food that some human is trying to make squirrel proof.
>>
>>
>> Tell that to a human POW who is being interrogated hours
>> upon hours, daily, for many weeks, and finally breaks down
>> to tell anything and everything, who and tells that if the enemy
>> broke his arms, or legs, or shot him he wouldn't have told,
>> but messing with his brain, through sustained mental stress
>> combined with sleep deprivation finally took its toll, and
>> caused utter breakdown.
>>
>> We are talking human brain here, not parrot.
>>
>> Alexe was in a way "interrogated" many hours a day for many
>> years.  It is ridiculous to even think that this lifestyle had no
effect
>> upon him.
>>
>> Of course the hypothesis that he was mentally worked to death
>> is just that a hypothesis, but since no cause of death has been
>> identified it is as good as anything else, perhaps even most plausible.
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>After all, Alex was part of an ongoing mental experiment to
>test the limits of avian intelligence.  The experiment ended
>abruptly with an unexplained, premature death of the bird.
>
>Please do not forget, this is exactly what happened from
>a scientific perspective. The African Grey subject among
>many other things learned to count to six, or seven.
>
>M.J.
 

    So?  there are other non-primates that can count even higher.
Counting didn't seem to affect them.  What is this big brouhaha about
counting anyway?  I'd think that problem solving would be a much more
difficult task like the Quaker I was referring to previously and
conferring his needs and desires to his human caretaker in human
language and putting different thoughts together to get that
accomplished.  He knew what "Jimmy" and  "Freddy want" would do and
what "Freddy want a cracker" would get him.  He put them together to
coherently and in the proper sequence to get his desired outcome.  I'd
call that a bird training his human.  We humans don't speak parrot
very well.  




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