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Re: Parrot worked to death?

by "M.J." <M.J.@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 14, 2007 at 05:10 PM

"Joanne" <Joanne@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:13em6j66hf4c9bd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "M.J." <M.J.@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:8zEGi.76$6p6.75@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> I strongly suspect that recent efforts to take the birds
>> thinking to a human like level of abstraction ('compound words')
>> may have dealt Alex a final blow.  Complex abstract thinking
>> is the stuff of most advanced creatures- primates/humans.
>>
>> Dr.Pepperberg just started to introduce Alex's brain fully to
>> this new world of more complex human like thinking.
>>
>> M.J.
>
> If you are right, wouldn't a necropsy have determined some abnormal
brain 
> tissue physiology?  You can be sure this bird didn't get the slam-bam
type 
> of necropsy most pets and breeders do.

Who knows?

Even if, he might not have displayed any obvious pathology
read: in an anatomical sense there might have been nothing
wrong, yet on a functional level his brain function might have
been seriously undermined in many ways.

For, example, a regular human brain MRI shows anatomy,
say a tumor, lesion, etc, (necropsy would show that), but it
takes a live PET scan to show if the organ is functioning
properly.

I don't think Alex was given such scans, and even if there
would be few references to compare it to. Who knows what
a properly functioning parrot brain PET scan image looks like?


> I hope they preserved his brain tissue (bet they did) for future, more 
> advanced testing as it becomes available.

I hope too.


> I wonder if they would have admitted to something as simple as a virus
or 
> an infection brought in by an assistant's lack of hygiene. (You know me
- 
> Queen of "the germs are out to get our darlings" theory!)

I think they would admit to it if that was the case.

I sincerely think that Alexes brain over time might
have reached a functional/metabolic limit to the amount
of intense processing that it was capable of and this
caused or contributed in some way to his early demise.

M.J.


> -- 
> Sincerely,
> Joanne
>
> If it's right for you, then it's right, . . . . . for you!!!
>
> http://www.jobird.com
> Wonders of Western Wa****ngton Video collection:
> http://www.jobird.com/private/wondersindex.htm
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Parrot worked to death?
"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-14 06:14:59 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-14 13:28:23 
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"Joanne" <Jo  2007-09-14 14:56:26 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-09-14 15:12:24 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-14 22:33:27 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-14 23:12:04 
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"Joanne" <Jo  2007-09-14 16:33:56 
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"Ocean of Nuance&quo  2007-09-14 19:47:10 
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"Joanne" <Jo  2007-09-14 17:06:29 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-15 19:18:48 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-14 18:36:18 
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"Ocean of Nuance&quo  2007-09-14 21:49:41 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-15 08:14:16 
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"Terry von Gease&quo  2007-09-15 07:58:05 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-15 19:19:30 
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Bill Kambic <wkambic@[  2007-09-15 16:12:13 
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"Terry von Gease&quo  2007-09-15 18:23:19 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-16 11:51:44 
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"Terry von Gease&quo  2007-09-16 07:54:19 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-16 17:41:02 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-14 17:10:08 
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fburton@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-09-15 15:03:55 
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Louis Boyd <boyd@[EMAI  2007-09-15 08:19:21 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-15 19:20:24 
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Grizzly <NoOne@[EMAIL   2007-09-17 13:07:06 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-14 21:44:46 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-14 18:54:29 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-15 02:07:56 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-15 02:41:35 
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max <betatron@[EMAIL P  2007-09-14 22:18:26 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-15 04:02:29 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-15 09:04:09 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-15 19:22:26 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-09-15 12:12:19 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-16 11:49:50 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-22 21:41:39 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-22 21:40:17 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-22 20:23:29 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-23 22:02:18 
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"Ocean of Nuance&quo  2007-09-23 22:18:46 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-24 18:17:06 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-20 02:14:35 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-22 08:05:58 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-09-22 07:04:18 
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Dann <detox665@[EMAIL   2007-09-22 16:18:50 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-22 18:00:49 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-09-22 16:04:21 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-22 22:23:36 
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xpenenyx@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-09-23 10:01:25 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-23 15:15:01 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-22 18:01:29 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-15 08:53:55 
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"Ocean of Nuance&quo  2007-09-15 09:06:08 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-22 21:43:11 
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"Ocean of Nuance&quo  2007-09-22 21:53:04 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-15 21:56:23 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-15 21:58:46 
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"Ocean of Nuance&quo  2007-09-17 12:42:10 
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Grizzly <NoOne@[EMAIL   2007-09-17 16:54:27 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-17 16:33:26 
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"Ocean of Nuance&quo  2007-09-17 20:22:39 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-18 01:56:43 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-18 02:19:29 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-22 21:48:45 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-17 16:22:54 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-17 17:05:11 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-09-17 20:34:51 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-22 18:01:51 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-15 19:21:22 
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"Dave Bugg" <  2007-09-15 12:11:53 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-16 11:49:30 
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Grizzly <NoOne@[EMAIL   2007-09-18 19:48:45 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-19 02:29:30 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-15 08:37:16 
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max <betatron@[EMAIL P  2007-09-14 22:30:32 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-15 09:13:20 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-15 08:26:00 
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Louis Boyd <boyd@[EMAI  2007-09-14 16:59:17 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-09-19 02:43:40 
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jfma@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-09-22 21:55:34 
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"M.J." <M.J.  2007-10-02 00:33:44 
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"Geopelia" <  2007-09-19 16:35:19 
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"Peter Hucker"   2007-09-22 22:32:52 
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Armand <a@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-30 07:03:41 
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<DelusionalDimensionsR  2008-04-30 08:58:43 
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