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Re: Piggies - can they pine after a sibling?

by "Incs" <infoREMOVE@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 25, 2007 at 01:14 AM

"Naomi" <nomesgriffin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> schreef in bericht 
news:1193136327.570447.83610@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Hi all, I posted a few weeks ago about our guinea pig, two year-old
> Wiggles who sadly died. Her sister Nubbin was lonely, so we got her a
> new roomie, a grey/white baby (she was six weeks when we got her) whom
> we named Weeble. Nubbin was always the submissive guinea pig, her
> sister would always get to the food first and generally boss Nubbin
> about. After a week or so of Nubbin trying her best to dominate
> Weeble, she became submissive again and was being pushed around by the
> baby. I felt really sorry for poor Nubbin! Over the weekend, Nubbin
> started to show signs of illness. She didn't seem herself, was
> spending most of her time in her house. We paid her lots of attention
> and gave her lots of cuddles, but then she stopped eating/drinking,
> pooping and she had a runny nose/sneezes and a slight crusting in her
> eyes (which I wiped). We took her to the vet yesterday who said her
> bowels were backed up, so she gave her some antibiotics and some
> Science Recovery (liquid feed) to try to get her bowels moving again.
> We gave her the meds and managed to get a large syringe full of the
> Recovery stuff down her last night and again this morning (she seemed
> to like it), she actually seemed like she'd perked up overnight. Then
> a while ago I went to get her out to hold her and keep her warm (it's
> chilly today) and she'd sadly passed away :-( I was really taken aback
> and obviously upset, as she seemed to be getting a bit better...
>
> ... I guess I wanted to ask if it's possible that Nubbin simply pined
> after her sister and "gave up" so to speak, as she didn't seem to form
> any particular bond with Weeble... or if there's something about the
> environment we keep our piggies in that's making them ill (even though
> the two piggies seemingly died of different things). We're going to
> get another house mate for Weeble later, as we don't want her to be on
> her own, but if there's something we're doing wrong with our piggies,
> we need to know so we don't lose any more!
>
> We had Wiggles and Nubbin for over two years with no problems (except
> Wiggles always had droopy/sometimes watery eyes, but the vet couldn't
> find anything wrong with them), so why all of a sudden have they both
> died?
>
> We've started putting a blanket over their cage as the weather has
> turned cold and we thought it'd help keep away draughts, we give them
> lots of attention/ daily veg (though not too much), fresh water...
> They're cleaned out regularly... The only thing I can think of is the
> cold and it's made them poorly, but why haven't they been affected by
> it for the last two years? Is it because we've moved house this year
> and their cage is in a different position?
>
> If anyone has any ideas, let me know, I can't bear to lose any more!!!
>
> Thanks all,
> (sorry for the rather lengthy post),
> Naomi
>

Oh dear.. seems like Nubbin really missed her friend Wiggles. It happens,
it 
has nothing to do with your care. These girls had a real bond, as you 
noticed by Nubbin's behaviour when Wiggles went 'missing', as I think she 
experienced it. When Weeble joined her after a few days she finally 
understood Wiggles wasn't coming back. And she decided to fillow her. It
is 
quite possible for a piggy to just give up, they somehow make their body 
stop working and there is nothing you or any vet can do.. any rescue would

just be tem****ary as the piggy just doesn't want to go on.

When one of my older girls, Brandy, had a permanent urine rash and I had
to 
bathe and clean her private parts every day, she decided she didn't want 
that sort of life. I bathed her for three weeks, she hated it but allowed 
it, trusting me to do whatever would be good for her. Of course, I
comforted 
her every time and always gave her a nice treat after we were done. When
she 
noticed the bathing and cleaning didn't help to make the rash go away she 
somehow understood the unpleasant daily procedure would continue for the 
rest of her life. And she decided she didn't want that, period. One night 
she gave up, looking poorly in the morning, was cuddled a lot (I knew what

she was up to, I felt it and saw it..) and as I had her on my lap that 
afternoon, she died in my arms. I knew that would happen. It was okay, it 
was her own decision. There was nothing I could do but respect that.
Another example: I had one very old piggy, her back legs getting stiff as 
she grew older, one day she couldn't move those back legs anymore. Vet
said 
she was just old, nothing can be done. She used her front legs to get
around 
the cage for three days, decided it was not the way she wanted to live, 
looked poorly in the morning, I took her on my lap, within 30 minutes she 
died on my lap.

So please, don't feel guilty. Just be glad those piggies can decide their 
own time to go, I have no idea how they do it, but I saw it a lot of
times.

One thing though, but I'm pretty sure you've covered this: the position of

the cage. Not draughty, no central heating, no direct sunlight, no open 
windows etc. nearby? Reading how much you care for your piggies I'm
certain 
you've paid attention to this, but my post would not be complete if I
didn't 
mention it.

Please, find Weeble a cagemate soon. And hope those two get a bond as
strong 
as Wiggles and Nubbin had.

Incs & the CavyClan:
Sebas, Cleo, Chicco, Amy, Kassan, Hazel, Cassie, Lady, Lizzy & Daisy.
 




 5 Posts in Topic:
Piggies - can they pine after a sibling?
Naomi <nomesgriffin@[E  2007-10-23 03:45:27 
Re: Piggies - can they pine after a sibling?
pupnpig@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2007-10-23 05:41:09 
Re: Piggies - can they pine after a sibling?
"Tracie" <tr  2007-10-24 12:24:34 
Re: Piggies - can they pine after a sibling?
Ted <Heather_pelling@[  2007-10-24 09:04:45 
Re: Piggies - can they pine after a sibling?
"Incs" <info  2007-10-25 01:14:01 

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