HOWEDY matty,
"Rocky" <2dogs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Marcel Beaudoin said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>
> > We currently don't have a yard, so
> > Moogli gets walks 3 or 4 times a day.
>
> I knew that. Sorry for the brain fart.
You're a lying dog abusing mental case
and you can't post here abHOWETS no
doGgamenedMOORE you stinkin lying
dog abusing punk thug coward.
From: Rocky (2dogs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: radio fence for our dog
Date: 2003-09-23 19:20:22 PST
matt said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> i think you've single handedly driven most
> people from this group.
He's had help from people who insist on quoting him in full.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
> > Once we get the house, and have put chicken
> > wire up along the spots that need it, how would
> > I go about tecahing him the "right" place to go.
>
> > I have seen stakes at PetSmart and places like
> > that that are supposed to work. Do they, or is it
> > just a matter of taking him out on a leash and
> > only letting him go in a certain area??
>
> Save the stakes for vampires, but your last
> sentence is bang on.
Talk abHOWET ban on, matty? The Amazing
Puppy Wizard is abHOWET to BANG on you
again.
> Before I had Rocky, one of the first things that
> I took from this group was area training,
That so, matty? Do tell?
> and it worked really well with him.
From: Rocky (australian.shepherd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: That invisable fence stuff again....
My difficulty with IFs are the hucksters that claim
IFs are a replacement for a physical fence.
I would never buy a house in an area that didn't
allow a fence.
When I rented, it was difficult to find the right
place, but doable.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
> As you say, take Moogli out on leash and let him go in
> only one area (the leash is optional with some dogs).
BWEEEEEEHAHAHAHHAAAA!!! Adios Moo!
> Lotsa praise when he goes.
Yeah.. and a cookie.
> Are you using commands for go pee/poo?
BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAAA!!!
> (I've just noticed that this paragraph is perfectly
> left and right justified - cool!)
You're a freakin imbecile.
> No mistakes: if it's the middle of the night, take him out.
> In ice storms, take him out. Don't get lazy. In my situation,
> the potty area is on the other side of the house from my door,
> yet I still accompany my dogs outside no matter the weather
> or time of day.
BWEEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
> This consistency allows me the odd time or
> two when I really don't want to be nekkid in
> my back yard when a dog has an emergency.
You mean when your dog ESCAPES.
From: Rocky (matt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: radio fence and greyhounds
And yes, I've been known to go outside in various states of
undress when a dog is in a real hurry. It's not as if the
neighbours are seeing anything new.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
From: Rocky (australian.shepherd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: My Great Dane = Great fence jumper
My Aussie could get over my 4 foot fence easily -
but he never has because he doesn't *want* to.
He'd never leave his best buddy - my old girl dog,
Murphy.
Still, I wouldn't trust this arrangement for when I
wasn't home.
I guess there aren't any easy answers, Sky.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
From: Rocky (australian.shepherd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: runaway dog
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Date: 2001-03-10 08:48:07 PST
Momisty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(misty) wrote in
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>:
>Peach lives in the house with us.
That's good news; from your original post, it sounded
to me that she might be an outside dog. That's why I
asked for more information.
>I'm talking about when we
>let her outside to go the bathroom.
You say in a later post that she won't eliminate while she's on
leash. What about a long line or a Flexi-Leash? It might take
some perseverance on your part, and a lot of time with her
outside, but eventually she'll have to go. When she does, lots
of praise and treats are in order.
>Her pup learned to stay in the yard with the
>radio collar but Peach just wants to run.
That's one of the reasons I don't like electronic fences. Every
dog is different and she's learned that the positive punishment
of getting past the "barrier" is a small price to pay for the
greater reward (positive reinforcement) of being out.
Now the electronic fence is keeping her from coming home.
Maybe I missed it, but is there a reason that
you can't put up a real fence?
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
BWEEEEEEEAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
"misty" <Momisty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's
not here with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her
loss.
I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because of how
you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the idea that my
using a shock collar could have any bearing on Peach not
wanting to stay home.
Up until I started using it my main concern had been keeping
my dogs in their own yard.
Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my concern
became how to keep them from running off for days on end.
I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the
anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g>
A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained,
doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all
the time.
IOW a great companion and friend.
Thanks Jerry!
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misty" <Momisty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two
> dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no collars.
>
> Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come
> back in the yard and would run for days.
>
>The last time, Peach didn't
> come back home.
>
> I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train
> my dog. She is now border trained. A few minutes each day
> reinforces her desire to stay in the yard.
>
> She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from
> chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk around
> the yard.
>
> I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
> e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence
> then you need to train your dog.
>
> I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my dog in
> our yard again.
>
> The price was too high:-( ~misty
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From: Nevyn (greatdane@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) Subject: Re: radio
fence Date: 2003-11-05 04:17:45 PST
Hi folks,
In my opinion the use of a radioshock fence is a waste of
time, effort or money. I can understand it if you a rich snob
who cares nothing about their dogs safey or behaviours.
At work I boundary train all the dogs to the bricked area
(Four kennels with 26 cages with 1 dog in each, 1 services
building and 2 catterys which is surrounded by scrubland to
the east and woodlands to the north and a lake to the west).
This works well, because then when people buy them the dogs
are easier to boundary train to a door or fence or yard.
However on a personal note, my two shelter mutts, who I
trained using the WITS END DOG MANUAL available at
www.doggydoright.com will not go past the back door, or the
back gate or the front gate without permission.
And it is nice, for when you are having a party, you can leave
your gates open for people, and your dogs won't be the least
concerned.
I find this better then spending your well earned money on a
piece of junk Why not use it to invest in a horse? Or a new
house? Make a nice aquarium? Build a nursery for a child?
Save your money. Train your dog. Please. -- Thankyou,
Nevyn
_________________________________ Nevyn E.D. Veterinary Nurse
& Animal Trainer greatdane@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"You can judge a
man's heart by his treatment of animals"
__________________________________
From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaul_bousie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Fence Jumping
Date: 2000-09-29 04:33:37 PST
Been well experienced in dogs escaping from our
yard I know exactly the frustration you are going
through. Sam used to jump over the fence so I
made it higher then we got Roz and she went
under it, through it and climbed over it.
I've decided there are only 2 ways to stop the escaping,
1 is to have an escape proof fence, the other to train the
dogs not to want to escape.
I suppose a third method is to keep them
inside but I don't consider that a solution.
Making the fence escape proof can be almost impossible
if the dog is determined, to stop it climbing over as yours
is doing put an extension on top of the fence that angles
inwards at about 30-45 degrees. Never use chicken wire
as the dogs tear through that like paper.
The only training method to prevent this I can recall is
Jerry's technique, essentially it involves walking around the
perimeter of the fenced area with the dog and using sound
distractions and praise to teach the dog it's boundary.
I have had partial success with it (i.e. I have deterred Roz
from escaping from various points along the fence) but then
again I haven't really followed it through completely.
One last glimmer of hope, as the dog gets older it may
become more settled, Sam never escapes now although
he's quite capable of getting out, he 2.5 years old and
seemed to settle at about 2. So there you are, only 1.5
years of escaping left!!!
Paul.
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