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Re: Doggie problem

by "Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborator Nov 17, 2008 at 03:12 PM

HOWEDY RamRod Sword of Baal,

"RamRod Sword of Baal" <ramrod@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:79jUk.15906$sc2.2326@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have a 8 month old border collie female pup

WELCOME TO THE FOLD, Ram <{}: ~ ) >

> We have a problem with her, we on occasion take
> her to a large park, actually an open playing field, and let her loose.

Lemme GUESS? She DON'T COME when called?

> She loves to chase the birds, and run in huge circles of up to 600
metres 
> (yards)

That's NORMAL <{}'; ~ ) >

> The problem is she will not come back when called,

Naaaah???

> we have tried honking the car horn, trying to tempt her
> with treats, calling her, but until she is really run out she will not 
> come back to the car.

ANY dog *(well NOT ANY DOG HERE) can be trained
to a 100% INSTANTLY RELIABLE come command in
just a few minutes simply by DOIN EVERY THING
EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE your
newfHOWEND pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active acute chronic
life-long incurable malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL
CASE PALS you're askin for ADVICE <{}: ~ ( >


                    LIKE THIS:

ballzde...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> Well I am happy to reply that so far after 10
> minutes of work and the cans from mr Howes guide,

You mean The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual <{); ~ ) >

> I have instilled the "come" command to Riley.

Good. You mean INSTALLED the come command as
a conditional reflex. Be SHORE to perform the
EXXXORCISES four times in each of four locations.

> He is an extremley smart dog, I have never had
> to go to the third or fourth try.

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                          SEE?

                    AND LIKE THIS:

From:
To: Jerry Howe
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: dog aggression - Today Seemed Like A Miracle -
WELCOME TO WITS' END DOG TRAINING

Sun****ne is still acting like a new dog!  Saw a dog
today and "good boy-" worked along with calling him-
came the first time every time. Not even a sound out
of him.  Think it is hard for him but he never even
seemed to think about going off-reacting.  I would
love to write a testimonial but can not seem to find
the site--please send the address--

The word come has no affect on him just the phrase-
-Sun****ne come goodboy.

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                   SEE?

            AND LIKE THIS:

From: "BarbnBeau" <bdea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:52:30 -0500
Re: Puppy Wizard's Website

Hi Buzzsaw

Not a Thing to lose ...But a Lot To Gain!!

I can only speak from my experience.. I have a 8 month
old miniature poodle, and although I had done some basic
training with him we had a few barking issues  ..ugh

I am happy to tell you, I contacted Jerry at the email
addy I posted and he was so great! I wasn't following
the technique precisely but he helped me get back on track.

Beau is doing sooooo well it is really a thrill working
with him, and seeing the remarkable changes.

Now I can ask for "recall" (come) both
 on and off lead and it is immediate!

the first time I ask.

Best of Luck to you,

Remember if you need help or explanation contact Jerry ..
he will be more than happy to help anyway he can.

Cheers
Barb

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Hi, Jerry.

I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).

For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').

Best, ben

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>  I would like all dogs to walk with a loose leash all the time

Of curse. OtherWIZE they'd CHOKE themselves.
Or rather, YOU'D be CHOKIN them <{}: ~ ( >

PERHAPS THAT'S HOWE COME they won't heel with you?

                      LIKE THIS, judy:

"Greg M. Silverman" <gmsNOS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message

 Hey, Mr. Wizard, or Alchemist or whatever your alias
 of the day is, have to say that our dog heels much
 better than she did. This is after reading and
 implementing the bit in your "Wits End" treatise.

 And she's a royal nutter (but then again, aren't they all?).
 Cheers! Greg-- 

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                     SEE?

            AND LIKE THIS, judy:

   From: <n> To: "Jerry Howe"
   Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:21 PM
   Subject: Re: Damned Family Leader****p Exercise -

   Re: Am I expecting to much

   Hi Jerry,

   When I talked to you on the phone to order to machine
   for daughter's new pup, I told you that I had an older
   Chessie. I rescued him at 9 years old and have had him
   for 3 years.

  It's funny, but I thought I'd try some of your book training
  with him.

  Where I used to say "come" and then say "good boy"
  when he obeyed, I have reversed it with a "good boy" first.
  It really does work. He was very confused at first,
  wondering what he had done to get the praise.
  But it really gets the attention and distracts him from
  whatever he may have going through his brain when
  he hears it.

  Dogs are funny, but people are too. Can't wait to get
  the Doggy do Right, etc.

  Thanks, N

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                   SEE?

          AND LIKE THIS, judy:


"Hennie van Dalen" <h.vandalen11***removethis...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message news:TlsCb.2895$7U1.7896@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 is age-old computer lingo.... It stands for "Read The
F***ing Manual" ;-) I used the manual and it works very good!

But it is a long text to read (76 pages printed on A4-size
paper) My lab is 1year old now, and teaching him something
new takes about 30minutes  (depending on what to teach offcourse)

My other dog (a 7year old stafford****re terrier-mix) is a bit
slower in learning, but he is used to me calling him a "bad
dog"whenever he did something i didn't want him to do, or
it might be the age.

Sometimes it looks like Sam (the lab) WANTS to learn
something new: he wants me to bring along the can
filled with washers whenever we go for a walk. It is a
very "humane" way of teaching: the dog is allways a
"good dog", and never a "bad dog"

There is nu punishment or prong-collars involved.

For a fact i tought him to heel in 15min's without
beeing on a leach at-all !!! When he spotted a dog,
he used to run towards it, but now i tought him to "ask
permission" first, and to my surprise it worked!

My dogs never went to puppy-training (lucky for them),
maybe this helped too.

Manual can be found at http://www.doggydoright.com/id3.html

-- Hennie van Dalen www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11
www.chello.nl/~h.vandalen11/fotografie/doggy-pictures/

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               SEE??

> but  it doesn't appear to be im****tant enough to me to make it happen.

Oh??  Well THAT'S on accHOWENTA you don't know
 HOWE to train your dogs to WANT to be with you.

                  LIKE THIS, judy:

"Paul B" <some...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:3edc57c5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 When I trained both my dogs to "heel" or walk close
 to me I ended up going to the parks and teaching
 them without a lead at all, that ensured I had to use
 good communication and was unable to be tempted
 to use the lead to correct them.

 Another part of the training I agree with is not using
 the "policeman" approach, where you tell a dog "no"
 or react with it in such a way that you become involved
 in the behaviour (by trying to stop it), this approach
 often results in a dog ceasing the behaviour when you
 are about but doing it when you aren't (bin raiding,
 counter surfing etc).

 Basically you are taught to make your dog a good
 friend who likes and wants to work for you for the
 pleasure of working for you (setting the hierarchy
 is included in this), teach it to recall reliably,
 then to do everything else (sit, stay down etc etc).

 Unwanted behaviours are addressed as they occur.
 If you understand what you are trying to achieve and
 are prepared to work with it you can get great results.

 Paul

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                    SEE??

        HERE'S HOWE COME, judy:

From: "Paul B" <NOS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 2

 Subject: Re: It doesn't work. Do it harder.

"Chris Williams" <k9ap...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
 news:16008-3E52F7CF-697@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Interesting question posed in this article: why do humans
> persist in doing things that are unsuccessful?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/­­article.
cgi?f=/c/a/2003/02/15/­­HO240381.DTL

There may be a few reasons, sometimes it's ignorance,
simply a failure to  realise what you are doing is
futile and you need to adopt a different  approach.

Sometimes you may be learning a new technique and need
to  experiment with it to be sure it's not just the way
you are applying it  that  is the problem, you may need
to try slight variations of the same technique to see
if there is a different result before you dismiss it completely.

 Sometimes you are doing the only thing you can think of,
even though it's  not working but you simply don't know
what else to do.

 Either way as long as you are able to reflect and learn
from your experiences and move forward then a few failed
attempts are all part of the learning process.

 My best example was teaching both dogs to walk to heel,
alone and together  in the brace position. I was determined
to teach them without any aids (choke, prong collars or
treats etc) and without forcing the heel by jerking or
restraining them using a leash, I knew it could be done,
despite the scorn of friends and even family who "knew better"
(but had never  actually  trained a dog in their lives).

It took me a while trying various ways to entice them to
want to walk beside me, someone else at the dog park whose
dog appeared to heel very well ( but held it's ears back
and tail down and looked very intimidated about being at
heel) suggested I give up and use a choke collar like him,
but I was obstinate.

One day like a switch it all fell into place, first one
dog then the other then both together all  walked  to
heel, then I tried without leads and it worked, the dogs
were happy  and  so was I.

I had persevered and succeeded and learnt a lot in the process.

People said "it took you long enough" but now I could
teach heel easily and quickly when I need to do it
again. And now when I walk my dogs and I see the same
scornful people with their dogs still pulling on the
choke collars saying "heel, heel" it's me who has the
last laugh.

Paul

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                     SEE??

> This takes well over an hour or more.

Well then, you're in EXXXCELLENT company~!

> Sometimes we do not have so long a time,
> and want here back before she is ready.

Tough break, eh, Ram??

> We like to let her have a good run rather than just time on a lead.

That's KINDLY of you, Ram <{}: ~ ) >

> She is a clever dog

INDEED?

> and when you trick her into the car before she is ready, she remembers 
> that trick and so it does not work a second time.

             BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

> We have run out of ideas.

WELCOME TO THE FOLD, Ram <{}: ~ ) >

> Anyone have any suggestions?

Yeah... GOOD LUCK~!

            BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
 




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