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"Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory"
<Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message news:HT4Uk.4094$Lv6.1596@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> HOWEDY william clodius, you pathetic miserable stinkin
> rotten lyin animal abusin punk thug coward active acute
> chronic life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
> MENTAL CASE
>
> "William Clodius" <wclodius@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:1iqhsss.1ti****szs3yjmN%wclodius@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> It has been a long time since I have had much to do with cats,
>
> You should stay the heel away from ALL livin critters <{}: ~ ( >
>
>> although I have always liked them.
>
> Yeah, but you been a UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL CASE
> all your pathetic miserable stinkin rotten life <{}: ~ ( >
>
>> During the later part of my youth, my parents had
>> a domestic shorthair tuxedo cat, Hughie,
>
> Well, you've certainly come to the RIGHT place for kat
> ADVICE, william, you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
> lyin animal abusinin MENTAL CASE <{}: ~ ( >
>
> DIDDY ON CATS (shoot, don't trap)
>
> diddler the **** stain scrawled on the ****HOWES
> walls with her finger dipped in bloody poop:
>
> From: diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
> Subject: Re: Fur Auction Ohio State Trappers
> Association Xenia
> Ohio Feb 15 2002
> Newsgroups: alt.animals.furtrapping
> Date: 2002-02-16 12:06:21 PST
>
> If I can get him away from the Olympics, I'll have
> him answer that. He doesn't know how to change the
> identity on the computer, so if "I" answer this
> post... it's really Jeff. And no.... we went to
> watch.
>
> He sold nothing. btw.. are these "CATS" feral
> domestic cats? (sorry not familiar with Oklahoma) (I
> just shoot the DSH cats. Jeff caught a couple cats
> last summer while nuisance trapping an orchard,
> but it wasn't intentional) -- diddy
>
> BUT IF YOU DO TRAP, DO IT RIGHT (The cat went
> nuts....they weren't supposed to go ape, to get
> themselves in this situation).
>
> "I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
> animal trapline. This morning there was a cat in a snare.
> Ordinarily, an animal caught in a snare can be released
> unharmed. One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes
> (and the complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)
> Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals, to
> me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they can't
> become lunch.. whatever.
>
> Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
> and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
> intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
> diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
> spine) around the waist area. This cats snarled, and
> attacked. Trying to extricate this cat was exceedingly
> difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because I feared
> damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I imagined
> this cat was not likely to survive.
>
> It would have been much simpler to dispatch the
> unfortunate cat and take out the dead body. Instead,
> this cat wore a collar. it deserved a chance, and the
> owner deserved closure. (no id on the collar) . It
> escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken
> to the vet for examination. I will probably never know
> if this particular cat survives the experience or not.
>
> Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have
> tried to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have
> been a kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be
> attracted to this type of trap, in this position, and then
> they weren't supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this
> situation. If you like your pet, you keep them home."
>
> -----------------------
>
>> that we inherited from a young woman that rented the
>> apartment attached to our house. I enjoyed having him
>> around, though Hughie was largely my sister's cat.
>
> That was KINDLY of you, billyboy~!
>
>> For several years it has been obvious to my daughters and
>> myself that my wife was a potential cat person. She prefers
>> smaller lap animals, petting to training,
>
> You mean she don't LIKE HURTIN innocent defenseless
> dumb critters like HOWE you do, billyboy??
>
>> and interactions indoors to outdoors, but whenever we
>> suggested it to her, she would bring up her problems
>> when she cat sat a friend's cat for a week, the smell of
>> the litter box,
>
> Perhaps she don't know HOWE to CLEAN a kat box, billy?
>
>> and how difficult it must be to get a cat to get along with dogs.
>
> Dogs an kats go together like a child an paddle, billyboy <{}'; ~ ) >
>
> LIKE THIS:
>
> Tues,Apr 19 2005 6:54
> Subject: Re: Introducing New Dog to Household Cats
> sighthounds & siberians <x...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> I was going to ask how cat things were coming
>> with Crow and Eclipse.
>
> Not great! I had been just closing off the upstairs bedroom
> (a baby gate with the door fixed ajar about six inches keeps
> the dogs out better than you'd expect), but the cats like to
> hide in the wall of the linen closet (gotta love these old
> houses!) when they're nervous and Crow and Eclipse tore
> apart the linen closet to try to get to them.
>
> That's when I closed off the upstairs entirely. They're
> also a bad influence on Cinder, who started out thinking
> of the cats as dinner but who had learned to live with
> them in peace until her sisters arrived.
>
> I think it's possible but, frankly, improbable that
> they're eventually going to be safe with the cats.
>
> --
> Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community
>
> ---------------
>
> AND LIKE THIS:
> From: diddy
> (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
> Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
> Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST
>
>
> Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
> couple days for school education on pet care and safe
> handling as well as responsible pet owner****p.
>
>
> I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
> and yet my dog (yes, Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
> and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
> crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
> crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
> and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
> parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.
>
>
> I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
> displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
> al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
> could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
> three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
> something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
> them and they got banished.
>
>
> To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will
> not look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
> himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.
>
> I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
> But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has
> never been harmed by any of the dogs. Danny is there
> all the time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming
> the cat.
>
> -----------------------------
>
> AND LIKE THIS:
>
> "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
> A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know Jack
> Wouldn't Have Done It If He Thought Solo Couldn't
> Take It. I Still Crate Him Because Otherwise I Fear
> He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
> Melanie Lee Chang * mch...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Canine Behavioral Genetics Project
> University of California, San Francisco
> http://psych.ucsf.edu/K9BehavioralGenetics/
>
> -----------------
>
> AND LIKE THIS:
>
>
> From: sighthounds etc. <greypigho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:08:30 -0500
> Subject: Re: Melinda/Sally
>
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:45:21 GMT, Suja <spana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>Gwen Watson wrote:
>>> The family is giving the dog up because apparently he killed
>>> the next door neighbors cat. Out of respect to the next door
>>> neighbors these people have chosen to find new home for
>>> their malamute. It is really very sad story they have told.
>>
>>> For one IMO it is the neighbors fault that their cat got into
>>> Miko's yard and was killed.
>>
>> I don't get it. How is it the dog's fault that a furry critter that
>> got into his yard got killed? If I were in these people's shoes,
>> I would very politely request that the neighbors keep their
>> animals off my property, but that's just me.
> That's what I would do too. There have been a number of
> cats killed here in our yard, by sighthounds or Siberians or
> a combination of the above. They are apparently strays (our
> neighbor two doors down feeds the stray cats, putting the
> food in the yard between us, what a good idea).
>
> I don't like it at all, as we love cats and have indoor cats
> (which our dogs are fine with), but I can't prevent it and
> it's not our fault or our dogs' fault.
>
>
>>> Though I can also understand the situation in some ways.
>>> Pretty rotten deal. I also wasn't aware that Malamute rescue
>>> is so full. Seems as bad as GSD and Lab rescue. Pretty sad.
>>
>> All the rescues are always full, Gwen. The problem with
>> Malamute rescue isn't that there is an overwhelming number
>> of dogs like there is with Labs and GSDs (271 as opposed to
>> the thousands), but there are very few homes that are suitable
>> for them.
>>
>>The local Mal rescue person was telling me that their rescue
>> is basically run by 7 or 8 volunteers, and they end up turning
>> down 1/2 to 2/3rds of the applicants. They have anywhere
>> between 2 to 12 dogs in rescue at one time. They don't do
>> adoption days (where the dogs are displayed in PetsMart or
>> some such), because every single person who sees one of
>> these dogs wants to go home with them without realizing
>> what they're getting themselves into.
>
> Same situation with Sibes, but even more people
> want those pretty fluffy dogs with blue eyes.
> Sally Hennessey
>
>
> --------------
>
> BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
>
>
>
>> Still after moving to our new house we have occaisionally
>> had problems with mice, and she would consider getting a
>> mouser.
>
> kats gotta be TAUGHT HOWE to hunt mice, billy; if IT ain't
> already been TAUGHT it will probably NEVER learn <{}: ~ ( >
>
>> When she would be in this mood I would tell her that I
>> thought she would enjoy having a cat, that her friend
>> taught her cat to play roughly and not all cats played like
>> that one,
>
> "Birds of a feather", eh, billyboy??
>
>> that our family didn't mind the smell of an isolated litter box,
>> and that my family's dogs got along with cats. I also told her
>> that my mother's final dog, a Welsh Terrier, was a better
>> mouser than some of my sisters' cats, that care would need to
>> be taken to keep the cat indoors given our doggie door,
>
> You're in for LOTS of FUN, billyboy;
>
> Just like these guys:
> From: Temperance (whoever@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
> Subject: Think of my daughter's cat please.
> Date: 2004-01-08 10:30:09 PST
>
>
> This morning 2 year old Velcro was found run over on
> the main Road. Who ever hit her knew they had hit her
> or an aniaml as it was about 9am. Velcro was a beautiful
> cat and at 6 months old came from a guy who mistreated
> her and it took a long time to gain her trust.
>
>
> She was called Velcro because she was so
> clingy and would attach herself to my daughters legs.
>
>
> A shame as we always thought her older cat would go first.
> Now we have a sad cat missing it's friend. I can't get the
> rainbow bridge link to work so if somebody can post the
> right one I would be pleased.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Temperance
>
>
> ==================
>
>
> From: Nancy Verzich (nverzich...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
> Subject: My cat... Date: 2003-09-28 12:14:37 PST
>
>
> Hi everyone, I've never posted here before but have
> been lurking and reading all your posts. The post
> below was posted to another pet NG but no one replied
> and its still bothering me, 3 days later.
>
>
> I hope you don't mind me posting it here also...I am
> really sad and just wanted to get this off my chest.
> I am a cat person...always have been...but in the last
> 10 yrs or so, it seems like I've sorta become "allergic"
> in a way to them. If I even touch the fur my eyes get all
> itchy and they burn etc. So, I don't generally hold
> our cat anyway.
>
>
> Well, we got this cat about 3 months ago...just a
> plain old tiger striped stray, who was a tiny kitten
> when my 6yr old daughter found her outside. We
> aren't allowed to have pets here, but.......So anyway
> this cat became part of our family.
>
>
> I also have a 17 yr old son who is very overweight
> and has NO friends. So this cat became his best
> friend. We didn't allow the cat outside, because
> we didn't really want neighbors to see her and also,
> we didn't want the fleas in here.
>
>
> So we kept her inside. But lately, she's been sneaking
> out if my daughter didn't shut the door tight enough or
> if any of us held it open just a second too long.
>
>
> She always came back tho...so not that big of a deal.
> Today, my daughter was outside and came back in to
> get something, and forgot to shut the door all the way.
> Of course, the cat got out. The cat was kinda weird,
> because she just RECENTLY opened up to me,
> personally....she's been loving my kids up ever since
> we got her, but she hasn't really come around to me
> until the last couple of weeks or so.
>
>
> So today, I go to the door and call her....she thinks I'm
> playing with her LOL...so she is darting out there all
> around.
>
>
> Finally she goes across the street to the neighbors
> yard, and all the way as she's crossing the street,
> I"m worrying about a car coming and hitting her...
> then, she just SAT there on the side of the road
> in the neighbors grass as the cars were passing
> and I was afriad that a car would spook her and
> she would run, but she didn't. Well, she wouldn't
> come in either, I guess she wanted to play for a while.
>
>
> About 15 minutes later I went to the door and called
> her again...this time she decided that she was going
> to come to me. She started running across the street,
> and just like in slow motion, I saw a car come down
> the street at the same time. I saw her little body go
> under the car, and I tried to cover my eyes.
>
>
> I listened for that HORRIBLE sound that you know is
> coming...but I didn't hear it....the car never even
> slowed down, it just kept going. The cat dashed up
> the street running like a maniac into the field. Every
> 10 minutes or so I would go to the door and call her,
> because I knew she was scared...but at the same time
> I"m trying to cook dinner and do a hundred other things.
>
>
> So everytime I called and she didn't come, I figured ok,
> I'll try again in a few minutes. When my hubby came
> home, I told him what had happened....he figured that
> she was fine and just scared/hiding, or maybe just out
> playing.
>
>
> My son and I a few hours later decided to go and look
> for her....we found her poor little dead body in the field...
> right where I had seen her enter it at. She didn't have
> any outer "evidence" at all of gettig hit...but it
> obviously happened immediately when she got to the
> field because she was only off of the road maybe 5 feet.
>
>
> My son freaked out..she was his best friend in the
> whole world....everyone is blaming everyone else...
> my daughter's fault for leaving the door open...my
> son's fault for not going out to get the cat right when
> she first got out...MY fault for calling to her and
> causing her to run across the street...*sigh*
>
>
> I dunno....
>
>
> All I know is that I can't get her
> out of my head......dammit. Nancy
>
> -----------------
>
> SEE??
>
>
>> and reminded her that after her lymphectomy on her
>> upper right arm we have to be careful about infections
>> from scratches on that arm.
>
> THAT'S INSANE, billyboy; lymphoma is SYSTEMIC;
> you gotta WATCH HOWET for ANY scratches <{}: ~ ( >
>
>> Then, the past month or so our house (and the houses
>> of some of her friends) has had an infestation of mice.
>
> You got Hunta Virus in your neighborhood, billyboy.
>
>> Saturday, a week ago, we got our first cat.
>
> NO PROBLEMO, billyboy; they'll get along JUST FINE
> so long as you simply DO EVERY THING EXXXACTLY
> PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE you an your MENTAL
> CASE PALS PREFER <{}: ~ ) >
>
>> We first spent a couple of weekends visiting the shelter I
>> volunteer at. However the two cats, that were recommended
>> to us by a cat savvy volunteer, were adopted before she had
>> a chance to check them out. Then on Friday she mentioned
>> her interest to her hairdresser, and discovered that the hairdresser
>> volunteered for a cat rescue organization in Santa Fe, and that
>> the friend knew of a cat that seemed a good match for us that
>> would be at a mobile adoption that afternoon, and Saturday.
>>
>> My wife checked it out, liked what she saw, and got us all
>> to go to the mobile adoption the next day. I always enjoy
>> mobile adoptions, and that day was particularly fun as a
>> number of rescues and shelter wer having mobile adoptions
>> as part of a statewide (national?) adoption drive.
>
> That's kindly of them, eh, billyboy??
>
>> At the Petco where the cat rescue had its adoption team,
>> the Espanola shelter also had its group. So I not only
>> checked out the cat, but also spent some time holding
>> dogs, while one of the shelter workers cleaned up after
>> a puppy, and playing with puppies and kittens.
>
> That was KINDLY of you, billyboy~!
>
>> We all liked the cat, a small red (really orange, but the
>> rescue head said the standard calls that color red) tabby,
>> about ten pounds and two years old. She was affectionate,
>> a purring machine, not too active with her claws in play,
>> active enough to be a potential mouser,
>
> That's IRRELEVANT, billyboy <{}: ~ ( >
>
>> and supposedly had experience living with dogs,
>> other cats, and children.
>
> That so, billyboy? You mean IT was ALREADY TRAINED??
>
>> We went out to lunch after checking out the cat, discussed
>> our reactions, decided to get her, went back to the event,
>> adopted her, and named her Aria.
>
> LUCKY KITTY, eh, billyboy??
>
>> Outside of the dogs, and all the expensive doodads
>> intended to distract her from scratching the furniture,
>
> THAT'S INSANE, billyboy; kats scratch furniture for
> the SAME REASON dogs CHEW your HOWESES.
> It's an anXXXIHOWESNESS relief mechanism.
>
>> the adoption has gone well.
>
> INDEED?
>
> Hey, billyboy? Ain't you been a life-long INCURABLE
> MENTAL CASE and pathological LIAR, billyboy??
>
>> My wife is in love with Aria.,
>
> Naaaah?
>
>> enjoys her much more than the dogs,
>
> Naaaah?
>
>> and talks all the time about how different Aria is from
>> her friend's cat. My daughters and I also enjoy her.
>
> That's KINDLY of ALL of you, AIN'T IT, billyboy <{}: ~ ) >
>
>> The inital interactions with the dogs went very well,
>
> INDEED??
>
>> which may have led to some over confidence.
>
> Oooops~!
>
>> We first took Aria in the house in her cat carrier, and
>> placed it on the breakfast table. It may have been a
>> coincidence, but when it looked like the dogs first
>> came into her sight, she started purring, very loudly.
>
> You mean your "TRAINED" kat was AFRAID on
> accHOWENTA IT was LOCKED IN A BOX, billy?
>
>> At first the dogs didn't notice her in their focuss on us.
>> Then after a few meows the dogs noticed there was
>> something in the carrier became interested, and put their
>> paws on the chair to say hello, and then did some minor barking.
>
> INDEED?
>
> BARKIN is a SYMPTOM of SUMPTHIN WRONG, billyboy <{}: ~ ( >
>
>> For the next two nights we set up Aria in the visitor's bathroom.
>
> To TRAIN your dogs not to MURDER you new kitty kat, billyboy?
>
>> We usually had the door closed, but sometimes had it open
>> with a chids gate across it so they could see one another
>> without physically interacting.
>
> INDEED? Don't you suppHOWES THAT would INCREASE
> their FEAR and anXXXIHOWESNESS, billyboy?
>
>> The two bad things we noticed was an intense interest in Aria's food,
>
> Oh?:
>
> From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbou...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
> Subject: Re: Dog vs cat food (stealing cat food)
> Date: 2001-03-03 22:18:03 PST
>
> It's possible to teach a dog not to eat out of
> a cat bowl without too much difficulty.
>
> My dogs don't touch the food in the cat bowls
> although Roz licks up any bits that have been
> dropped around the bowls :-)
>
> I used a can with stones in it to create a distraction
> anytime the dogs tried to eat the cats food, followed
> with immediate praise.
>
> It worked a treat.
>
> The cats bowls are down all the time, usually there is
> food left over but the dogs don't eat it, even if we go
> out and leave the dogs with access inside through a dog door.
>
> Paul
>
> --------------------
>
>
>> and a desire to speed up their interactions.
>
> Oh, you mean you gotta TRAIN your dogs not
> to attack an murder your new kitty kat, billyboy?
>
>> My wife then decided that the artificial light in the bathroom
>> would be bad for the cat and moved her to the den. However
>> the dogs were frustrated being denied access to the den.
>
> No, billyboy, that's INSANE. Your dogs was agitated by the kat
> bein locked in a box an actin AFRAID of them <{}: ~ ( >
>
>> We spend a lot of time working in there, and not being
>> allowed in the den reduced their interactions with us.
>
> That'd be a BLESSING, billyboy <{}: ~ ) >
>
>> It also has a carpet which makes a perfect wrestling
>> surface for them. Perhaps as a result they seemed to
>> become more aggressive towards Aria.
>
> That's ABSURD and INSANE, billyboy <{}: ~ ( >
>
> HOWEver, THAT'S the 1st time WON of you MENTAL
> CASES have blamed AGGRESSION on the flooring <{}'; ~ ) >
>
>> At any rate while I was working late, my wife took food to
>> the cat leaving the doorway open. The dogs barged their way
>> through the childs gate, Peanut breathed in the cat's food,
>> and started barking at the cat. Smoky, as he often does,
>> followed Peanut's mood chased and caught the cat.
>
> Perhaps you should GET RID of the new kitty kat pryor
> to your dogs MURDERIN IT for you, billyboy??
>
>> After my wife and oldest daughter broke up the fight
>> Aria proved unharmed, but terrified of the dogs.
>
> Naaaaah??
>
> misty" <Momi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:6946-3B6337A1-329@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring. Two dogs,
> two collars We now have one dog and no collars.
>
> Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come back
> in the yard and would run for days. The last time, Peach didn't
> come back home.
>
> I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train my dog.
>
> She is now border trained. A few minutes each day reinforces
> her desire to stay in the yard. She no longer runs out into the
> road, I can stop her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes
> when we walk around the yard.
>
> I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the e-fence
> and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence then you need to
> train your dog. I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep
> my dog in our yard again.
>
> The price was too high:-(
>
> ~misty
>
> --------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
> Message-ID: uim43blqq1h...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Okay, I gotta speak up here... We've been using
> Jerry's methods with our dog. We had the same
> problem as the original poster has with Buzz.
>
> One day working with the family pack exercise
> and practicing the recall command with the family
> and she'll now go out with hubby and daughter
> instead of needing me to reassure her or even
> refusing to go with anyone but me.
>
> I really urge you, regardless of the negative
> things you might hear about Jerry & Wits'
> End here, to try the method and *judge the
> results for yourself*.
>
> Let's see what other areas she's improved in...
> always comes when called, not chewing stuff
> even if we leave it laying around, "re" housebroken
> after long shelter stay, walks perfectly on leash,
> doesn't try to steal food from our plates or beg...
> probably a few more things I'm forgetting to mention.
> *(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi and don't wander. jh).
>
> That's in about a week's time.
>
> Her overall demeanor has changed. When
> we brought her home she was very untrusting
> and ultra-submissive (except with her area/toys
> where she was possessive and nippy).
>
> She had been abused and beaten by previous
> owners, then she was in a shelter for months.
> They (most of them) wanted to give up and kill
> her.
>
> Now she's gained confidenceand trust with us.
>
> Last night was another big breakthrough
> (in my eyes). She barked! Big deal, she
> barked just once when she heard the front
> door. Great!
>
> Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about
> Jerry or that the Wits' End manual is culled
> from other sources. In my opinion, even if it
> is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves
> out the bad.
>
> Works for me.
>
> (And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know
> Jerry personally. I've emailed him and instant
> messaged him. I have not bought a "Doggy
> Do Right". He's offered help for free.)
>
> M.
> --
> Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
> http://www.crneckiy.com
& http://tarot.crneckiy.com
> E-mail & MSN Messenger: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AIM & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227
>
> --------------------
>
>> We have now moved Aria to my oldest's bedroom,
>
> STUPID PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BREED, billyboy <{}: ~ ( >
>
>> and no longer rely on the childs gate.
>
> Oh, you mean "MANAGEMENT ALWAYS FAILS", billyboy:
>
> Re: Dog Whisperer Week on National Geographic
> Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006
>
> "Handsome Jack Morrison" <handsomejackmorri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote in message news:i222d25gibj3sdv85pg8u370e4m4ap1v10@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Well, again, "****" happens.
>
> It's possible to avoid "****" from happening altogether,
> by never doing anything, but that doesn't help dogs very
> much, does it?
>
> But as some folks are wont to say: "Management
> always fails."
>
> It'll fail for you one day, too. And I bet it already
> has, probably many times, in fact.
>
> The more dogs you try to manage, the more
> things you try to do, the more times it'll fail.
>
> Because I've see too much "****" actually happen,
> and know that it's impossible to totally prevent.
>
> "****" has happened a number of times just today, at
> my place, because someone simply forgot to do what
> he was supposed to do. He's done it correctly, oh,
> maybe a thousand times now, but today he didn't, and
> "****" happened.
>
> Actually, you should feel pretty good about the fact "
> that he actually shows "****" happening on his show.
>
> --------------
>
> lying frosty dahl wrote:
>
> "My behaviorist friend says, however, that "management
> always fails." "my aggression-specialist friend has a maxim:
> "management always fails."
>
> --------------------
>
> BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
>
>> While Aria is now safe
>
> INDEED?
>
> WOULD YOU BET YOUR LIFE ON THAT, billyboy??
>
>> and interacting well with people, we ar making little
>> if any progress on introducing the dog and cat to one
>> another.
>
> Naaaaah??
>
> BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
>
>> Are there any suggestions on how to procede?
>
> Oh, INDEEDY, billyboy~!:
>
> "You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
> Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
> Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
> Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
> LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.
>
> lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:
>
> "This Article Is Something We've Put Together
> For SF GSD Rescue:
>
> From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
> Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
> Date: 1999/11/20
>
> ginge...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> How can I get him to quit chasing the cats.
>
> Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong - Lynn K.
>
> "Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog. Don't
> forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong works
> better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
> this situation.
>
> Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
> should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
> to instruct the owner in their proper use. Electronics can
> take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars. At that
> time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
> whatever other reward system was being used."
>
> 8) Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
> Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog. I think a prong
> works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
> dog in this situation. Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
> you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
> walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
> why you have the dog muzzled).
>
> If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
> cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
> voice and the collar.
>
> This is im****tant - the correction must be physically
> very strong - not a nag. (PS: not many dogs need
> to be corrected at all)."
>
> Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob> wrote in message
> <news:04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>...
>
> Lynn, looks like he got you there if these
> quotes are true.
> In the posts below you take responsibility for
> making those calls.
>
> In your post above, you state you do not
> make those calls.
>
> Which one is it?
>
> WORDS OF WISDOM
> From Our Own Lynn Kosmakos
> 1200mg Of Lithium And 50 mg Of Zoloft
> EVERY DAY
> For Twenty Years
>
> I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM
>
> "I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
> depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50
> mg of Zoloft every day.
>
> I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to
> learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
> information I have learned. But if I were ever
> to post such sh*t, I would hope that every other
> reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."
>
> "Community is an evolutionary thing that we
> earn the right to participate in by observing
> the easily understood rules and contributing
> to in constructive ways."
>
> Lynn K.
>
> ------------------------
>
> SEE?
>
> HERE'S HOWE COME:
>
> R.P.D.B. Syndrome
>
> http://www.phule.net/mirrors/unskilled-and-unaware.html
> http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf
>
> UNSKILLED AND UNAWARE OF IT: HOW DIFFICULTIES
> IN RECOGNIZING ONE'S OWN INCOMPETENCE LEAD
> TO INFLATED SELF-*****SMENTS
>
> Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants
> scoring in the bottom quartile... grossly overestimated
> their best performance and ability. Although their test
> scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated
> themselves to be in the 62nd.
>
> - Never attribute to malice that which
> can be adequately explained by stupidity.
>
> - Sufficiently advanced incompetence is
> indistinguishable from malice.
>
> - Insufficiently advanced malice is
> indistinguishable from incompetence.
>
> ------------------------
>
> SEE?
>
>


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