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Re: Introducing a cat to dogs

by "Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborator Nov 16, 2008 at 09:46 PM

HOWEDY william clodius, you pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal abusin punk thug coward active acute
chronic life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
MENTAL CASE

"William Clodius" <wclodius@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:1iqhsss.1ti****szs3yjmN%wclodius@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> It has been a long time since I have had much to do with cats,

You should stay the heel away from ALL livin critters <{}: ~ ( >

> although I have always liked them.

Yeah, but you been a UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL CASE
all your pathetic miserable stinkin rotten life <{}: ~ ( >

> During the later part of my youth, my parents had
> a domestic shorthair tuxedo cat, Hughie,

Well, you've certainly come to the RIGHT place for kat
 ADVICE, william, you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
 lyin animal abusinin MENTAL CASE <{}: ~ ( >

      DIDDY ON CATS (shoot, don't trap)

diddler the **** stain scrawled on the ****HOWES
walls with her finger dipped in bloody poop:

         From: diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
         Subject: Re: Fur Auction Ohio State Trappers
         Association Xenia
         Ohio Feb 15 2002
        Newsgroups: alt.animals.furtrapping
         Date: 2002-02-16 12:06:21 PST

         If I can get him  away from the Olympics, I'll have
         him answer that. He doesn't know how to change the
         identity on the computer, so if "I" answer this
         post... it's really Jeff. And no.... we went to
         watch.

         He sold nothing. btw.. are these "CATS" feral
         domestic cats? (sorry not familiar with Oklahoma) (I
         just shoot the DSH cats. Jeff caught a couple cats
         last summer while nuisance trapping an orchard,
         but it wasn't intentional) -- diddy

         BUT IF YOU DO TRAP,  DO IT RIGHT (The cat went
         nuts....they weren't supposed to go ape, to get
         themselves in this situation).

"I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
animal trapline. This morning there was a cat in a snare.
Ordinarily, an animal caught in a snare  can be released
unharmed. One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes
(and the complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)
Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals, to
me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they can't
become lunch.. whatever.

Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
spine) around the waist area. This cats snarled, and
attacked. Trying to extricate this cat was exceedingly
difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because I feared
damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I imagined
this cat was not likely to survive.

It would have been much simpler to dispatch the
unfortunate cat and take out the dead body. Instead,
this cat wore a collar. it deserved a chance, and the
owner deserved closure. (no id on the collar) . It
escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken
 to the vet for examination. I will probably never know
if this particular cat survives the experience or not.

Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have
tried to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have
been a kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be
attracted to this type of trap, in this position, and then
they weren't supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this
situation. If you like your pet, you keep them home."

              -----------------------

> that we inherited from a young woman that rented the
> apartment attached to our house. I enjoyed having him
> around, though Hughie was largely my sister's cat.

That was KINDLY of you, billyboy~!

> For several years it has been obvious to my daughters and
> myself that my wife was a potential cat person.  She prefers
> smaller lap animals, petting to training,

You mean she don't LIKE HURTIN innocent defenseless
dumb critters like HOWE you do, billyboy??

> and interactions indoors to outdoors, but whenever we
> suggested it to her, she would bring up her problems
> when she cat sat a friend's cat for a week, the smell of
> the litter box,

Perhaps she don't know HOWE to CLEAN a kat box, billy?

> and how difficult it must be to get a cat to get along with dogs.

Dogs an kats go together like a child an paddle, billyboy <{}'; ~ ) >

                     LIKE THIS:

Tues,Apr 19 2005 6:54
Subject: Re: Introducing New Dog to Household Cats
sighthounds & siberians  <x...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> I was going to ask how cat things were coming
> with Crow and Eclipse.

Not great!  I had been just closing off the upstairs bedroom
(a baby gate with the door fixed ajar about six inches keeps
the dogs out better than you'd expect), but the cats like to
hide in the wall of the linen closet (gotta love these old
houses!) when they're nervous and Crow and Eclipse tore
apart the linen closet to try to get to them.

That's when I closed off the upstairs entirely.  They're
also a bad influence on Cinder, who started out thinking
of the cats as dinner but who had learned to live with
them in peace until her sisters arrived.

I think it's possible but, frankly, improbable that
they're eventually going to be safe with the cats.

-- 
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - s...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 than ever to be a member of the reality-based community

                 --------------- 

             AND LIKE THIS:
From: diddy
(di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST


Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet owner****p.


I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.


I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.


To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will
 not look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has
never been harmed by  any of the dogs. Danny is there
 all the time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming
 the cat.

               ----------------------------- 

                 AND LIKE THIS:

    "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
    A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know Jack
    Wouldn't Have Done It If He Thought Solo Couldn't
    Take It. I Still Crate Him Because Otherwise I Fear
    He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
    Melanie Lee Chang * mch...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Canine Behavioral Genetics Project
    University of California, San Francisco
    http://psych.ucsf.edu/K9BehavioralGenetics/

                      -----------------

                    AND LIKE THIS:


From: sighthounds etc. <greypigho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:08:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Melinda/Sally



On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 16:45:21 GMT, Suja <spana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Gwen Watson wrote:
>> The family is giving the dog up because apparently he killed
>> the next door neighbors cat. Out of respect to the next door
>> neighbors these people have chosen to find new home for
>> their malamute. It is really very sad story they have told.
>
>> For one IMO it is the neighbors fault that their cat got into
>> Miko's yard and was killed.
>
> I don't get it.  How is it the dog's fault that a furry critter that
> got into his yard got killed?  If I were in these people's shoes,
> I would very politely request that the neighbors keep their
> animals off my property, but that's just me.
That's what I would do too.  There have been a number of
 cats killed here in our yard, by sighthounds or Siberians or
 a combination of the above.  They are apparently strays (our
 neighbor two doors down feeds the stray cats, putting the
food in the yard between us, what a good idea).

I don't like it at all, as we love cats and have indoor cats
(which our dogs are fine with), but I can't prevent it and
it's not our fault or our dogs' fault.


>> Though I can also understand the situation in some ways.
>> Pretty rotten deal. I also wasn't aware that Malamute rescue
>> is so full. Seems as bad as GSD and Lab rescue. Pretty sad.
>
> All the rescues are always full, Gwen.  The problem with
> Malamute rescue isn't that there is an overwhelming number
> of dogs like there is with Labs and GSDs (271 as opposed to
> the thousands), but there are very few homes that are suitable
> for them.
>
>The local Mal rescue person was telling me that their rescue
> is basically run by 7 or 8 volunteers, and they end up turning
> down 1/2 to 2/3rds of the applicants.  They have anywhere
> between 2 to 12 dogs in rescue at one time.  They don't do
> adoption days (where the dogs are displayed in PetsMart or
> some such), because every single person who sees one of
> these dogs wants to go home with them without realizing
> what they're getting themselves into.

Same situation with Sibes, but even more people
want those pretty fluffy dogs with blue eyes.
Sally Hennessey


                  -------------- 

         BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!



> Still after moving to our new house we have occaisionally
> had problems with mice, and she would consider getting a
> mouser.

kats gotta be TAUGHT HOWE to hunt mice, billy; if IT ain't
already been TAUGHT it will probably NEVER learn <{}: ~ ( >

> When she would be in this mood I would tell her that I
> thought she would enjoy having a cat, that her friend
> taught her cat to play roughly and not all cats played like
> that one,

"Birds of a feather", eh, billyboy??

> that our family didn't mind the smell of an isolated litter box,
> and that my family's dogs got along with cats. I also told her
> that my mother's final dog, a Welsh Terrier, was a better
> mouser than some of my sisters' cats, that care would need to
> be taken to keep the cat indoors given our doggie door,

You're in for LOTS of FUN, billyboy;

           Just like these guys:
From: Temperance (whoever@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Think of my daughter's cat please.
Date: 2004-01-08 10:30:09 PST


This morning 2 year old Velcro was found run over on
the main Road. Who ever hit her knew they had hit her
or an aniaml as it was about 9am. Velcro was a beautiful
cat and at 6 months old came from a guy who mistreated
her and it took a long time to gain her trust.


She was called Velcro because she was so
clingy and would attach herself to my daughters legs.


A shame as we always thought her older cat would go first.
Now we have a sad cat missing it's friend. I can't get the
rainbow bridge link to work so if somebody can post the
right one I would be pleased.


Thanks.


Temperance


           ==================


        From: Nancy Verzich (nverzich...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
        Subject: My cat... Date: 2003-09-28 12:14:37 PST


        Hi everyone, I've never posted here before but have
        been lurking and reading all your posts. The post
        below was posted to another pet NG but no one replied
        and its still bothering me, 3 days later.


        I hope you don't mind me posting it here also...I am
        really sad and just wanted to get this off my chest.
        I am a cat person...always have been...but in the last
        10 yrs or so, it seems like I've sorta become "allergic"
        in a  way to them. If I even touch the fur my eyes get all
        itchy and they burn etc. So, I don't generally hold
        our cat anyway.


        Well, we got this cat about 3 months ago...just a
        plain old tiger striped stray, who was a tiny kitten
        when my 6yr old daughter found her outside. We
        aren't allowed to have pets here, but.......So anyway
        this cat became part of our family.


       I also have a 17 yr old son who is very overweight
       and has NO friends. So this cat became his best
       friend. We didn't allow the cat outside, because
       we didn't really want neighbors to see her and also,
       we didn't want the fleas in here.


        So we kept her inside. But lately, she's been sneaking
        out if my daughter didn't shut the door tight enough or
        if any of us held it open just a second too long.


        She always came back tho...so not that big of a deal.
        Today, my daughter was outside and came back in to
        get  something, and forgot to shut the door all the way.
        Of course, the cat got out. The cat was kinda weird,
        because she just RECENTLY opened up to me,
        personally....she's been loving my kids up ever since
        we got her, but she hasn't really come around to me
        until the last couple of weeks or so.


        So today, I go to the door and call her....she thinks I'm
        playing with her LOL...so she is darting out there all
        around.


        Finally she goes across the street to the neighbors
        yard, and all the way as she's crossing the street,
        I"m worrying about a car coming and hitting her...
        then, she just SAT there on the side of the road
        in the neighbors grass as the cars were passing
        and I was afriad that a car would spook her and
        she would run, but she didn't. Well, she wouldn't
        come in either, I guess she wanted to play for a while.


        About 15 minutes later I went to the door and called
        her again...this time she decided that she was going
        to come to me. She started running across the street,
        and just like in slow motion, I saw a car come down
        the street at the same time. I saw her little body go
        under the car, and I tried to cover my eyes.


        I listened for that HORRIBLE sound that you know is
        coming...but I didn't hear it....the car never even
        slowed down, it just kept going. The cat dashed up
        the street running like a maniac into the field. Every
        10 minutes or so I would go to the door and call her,
        because I knew she was scared...but at the same time
        I"m trying to cook dinner and do a hundred other things.


        So everytime I called and she didn't come, I figured ok,
        I'll try again in a few minutes. When my hubby came
        home, I told him what had happened....he figured that
        she was fine and just scared/hiding, or maybe just out
        playing.


        My son and I a few hours later decided to go and look
        for her....we found her poor little dead body in the field...
        right where I had seen her enter it at. She didn't have
        any outer "evidence" at all of gettig hit...but it
        obviously happened immediately when she got to the
        field because she was only off of the road maybe 5 feet.


        My son freaked out..she was his best friend in the
        whole world....everyone is blaming everyone else...
        my daughter's fault for leaving the door open...my
        son's fault for not going out to get the cat right when
        she first got out...MY fault for calling to her and
        causing her to run across the street...*sigh*


        I  dunno....


        All I know is that I can't get her
        out of my head......dammit. Nancy

                      -----------------

                         SEE??


> and reminded her that after her lymphectomy on her
> upper right arm we have to be careful about infections
> from scratches on that arm.

THAT'S INSANE, billyboy; lymphoma is SYSTEMIC;
you gotta WATCH HOWET for ANY scratches <{}: ~ ( >

> Then, the past month or so our house (and the houses
> of some of her friends) has had an infestation of mice.

You got Hunta Virus in your neighborhood, billyboy.

> Saturday, a week ago, we got our first cat.

NO PROBLEMO, billyboy; they'll get along JUST FINE
so long as you simply DO EVERY THING EXXXACTLY
 PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE you an your MENTAL
CASE PALS PREFER <{}: ~ ) >

> We first spent a couple of weekends visiting the shelter I
> volunteer at. However the two cats, that were recommended
> to us by a cat savvy volunteer, were adopted before she had
> a chance to check them out. Then on Friday she mentioned
> her interest to her hairdresser, and discovered that the hairdresser
> volunteered for a cat rescue organization in Santa Fe, and that
> the friend knew of a cat that seemed a good match for us that
> would be at a mobile adoption that afternoon, and Saturday.
>
> My wife checked it out, liked what she saw, and got us all
> to go to the mobile adoption the next day. I always enjoy
> mobile adoptions, and that day was particularly fun as a
> number of rescues and shelter wer having mobile adoptions
> as part of a statewide (national?) adoption drive.

That's kindly of them, eh, billyboy??

> At the Petco where the cat rescue had its adoption team,
> the Espanola shelter also had its group. So I not only
> checked out the cat, but also spent some time holding
> dogs, while one of the shelter workers cleaned up after
> a puppy, and playing with puppies and kittens.

That was KINDLY of you, billyboy~!

> We all liked the cat, a small red (really orange, but the
> rescue head said the standard calls that color red) tabby,
> about ten pounds and two years old.  She was affectionate,
> a purring machine, not too active with her claws in play,
> active enough to be a potential mouser,

That's IRRELEVANT, billyboy <{}: ~ ( >

> and supposedly had experience living with dogs,
> other cats, and children.

That so, billyboy? You mean IT was ALREADY TRAINED??

> We went out to lunch after checking out the cat, discussed
> our reactions, decided to get her, went back to the event,
> adopted her, and named her Aria.

LUCKY KITTY, eh, billyboy??

> Outside of the dogs, and all the expensive doodads
> intended to distract her from scratching the furniture,

THAT'S INSANE, billyboy; kats scratch furniture for
the SAME REASON dogs CHEW your HOWESES.
It's an anXXXIHOWESNESS relief mechanism.

> the adoption has gone well.

             INDEED?

Hey, billyboy? Ain't you been a life-long INCURABLE
 MENTAL CASE and pathological LIAR, billyboy??

> My wife is in love with Aria.,

Naaaah?

>  enjoys her much more than the dogs,

Naaaah?

>  and talks all the time about how different Aria is from
> her friend's cat. My daughters and I also enjoy her.

That's KINDLY of ALL of you, AIN'T IT, billyboy <{}: ~ ) >

> The inital interactions with the dogs went very well,

                       INDEED??

> which may have led to some over confidence.

                     Oooops~!

> We first took Aria in the house in her cat carrier, and
> placed it on the breakfast table. It may have been a
> coincidence, but when it looked like the dogs first
> came into her sight, she started purring, very loudly.

You mean your "TRAINED" kat was AFRAID on
accHOWENTA IT was LOCKED IN A BOX, billy?

> At first the dogs didn't notice her in their focuss on us.
> Then after a few meows the dogs noticed there was
> something in the carrier became interested, and put their
> paws on the chair to say hello, and then did some minor barking.

INDEED?

BARKIN is a SYMPTOM of SUMPTHIN WRONG, billyboy <{}: ~ ( >

> For the next two nights we set up Aria in the visitor's bathroom.

To TRAIN your dogs not to MURDER you new kitty kat, billyboy?

> We usually had the door closed, but sometimes had it open
> with a chids gate across it so they could see one another
> without physically interacting.

INDEED? Don't you suppHOWES THAT would INCREASE
their FEAR and anXXXIHOWESNESS, billyboy?

> The two bad things we noticed was an intense interest in Aria's food,

Oh?:

From: Paul B (NOSPAMpaulbou...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Dog vs cat food (stealing cat food)
Date: 2001-03-03 22:18:03 PST

It's possible to teach a dog not to eat out of
 a cat bowl without too much difficulty.

My dogs don't touch the food in the cat bowls
although Roz licks up any bits that have been
 dropped around the bowls :-)

I used a can with stones in it to create a distraction
anytime the dogs tried to eat the cats food, followed
with immediate praise.

It worked a treat.

The cats bowls are down all the time, usually there is
 food left over but the dogs don't eat it, even if we go
out and leave the dogs with access inside through a dog door.

Paul

              --------------------


> and a desire to speed up their interactions.

Oh, you mean you gotta TRAIN your dogs not
to attack an murder your new kitty kat, billyboy?

> My wife then decided that the artificial light in the bathroom
> would be bad for the cat and moved her to the den. However
> the dogs were frustrated being denied access to the den.

No, billyboy, that's INSANE. Your dogs was agitated by the kat
bein locked in a box an actin AFRAID of them <{}: ~ ( >

> We spend a lot of time working in there, and not being
> allowed in the den reduced their interactions with us.

That'd be a BLESSING, billyboy <{}: ~ ) >

> It also has a carpet which makes a perfect wrestling
> surface for them.  Perhaps as a result they seemed to
> become more aggressive towards Aria.

That's ABSURD and INSANE, billyboy <{}: ~ ( >

HOWEver, THAT'S the 1st time WON of you MENTAL
CASES have blamed AGGRESSION on the flooring <{}'; ~ ) >

> At any rate while I was working late, my wife took food to
> the cat leaving the doorway open. The dogs barged their way
> through the childs gate, Peanut breathed in the cat's food,
> and started barking at the cat. Smoky, as he often does,
> followed Peanut's mood chased and caught the cat.

Perhaps you should GET RID of the new kitty kat pryor
to your dogs MURDERIN IT for you, billyboy??

> After my wife and oldest daughter broke up the fight
> Aria proved unharmed, but terrified of the dogs.

                      Naaaaah??

 misty" <Momi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
 news:6946-3B6337A1-329@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.  Two dogs,
  two collars We now have one dog and no collars.

  Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to come back
  in the yard and would run for days.  The last time, Peach didn't
  come back home.

 I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to train my dog.

 She is now border trained.  A few minutes each day reinforces
  her desire to stay in the yard. She no longer runs out into the
 road, I can stop her from chasing cats and she no longer cringes
 when we walk around the yard.

  I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the e-fence
  and its collars.  If you can't get a regular fence then you need to
  train your dog.  I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep
  my dog in our yard again.

 The price was too high:-(

~misty

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Subject: Re: Dog will not listen to anyone but me!
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:33:36 -0500
Message-ID: uim43blqq1h...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I gotta speak up here... We've been using
Jerry's methods with our dog.  We had the same
problem as the original poster has with Buzz.

One day working with the family pack exercise
and practicing the recall command with the family
and she'll now go out with hubby and daughter
instead of needing me to reassure her or even
refusing to go with anyone but me.

I really urge you, regardless of the negative
things you might hear about Jerry & Wits'
End here, to try the method and *judge the
results for yourself*.

Let's see what other areas she's improved in...
always comes when called, not chewing stuff
even if we leave it laying around, "re" housebroken
after long shelter stay, walks perfectly on leash,
doesn't try to steal food from our plates or beg...
probably a few more things I'm forgetting to mention.
*(Yeah, the kats lay off the koi and don't wander. jh).

That's in about a week's time.

Her overall demeanor has changed.  When
we brought her home she was very untrusting
and ultra-submissive (except with her area/toys
where she was possessive and nippy).

She had been abused and beaten by previous
owners, then she was in a shelter for months.
They (most of them) wanted to give up and kill
her.

Now she's gained confidenceand trust with us.

Last night was another big breakthrough
(in my eyes).  She barked!  Big deal, she
barked just once when she heard the front
door.  Great!

Anyway, you'll be told lots of nasty stuff about
Jerry or that the Wits' End manual is culled
from other sources.  In my opinion, even if it
is, it takes only the good stuff and leaves
out the bad.

Works for me.

(And I suppose I gotta say this... I don't know
Jerry personally. I've emailed him and instant
messaged him.  I have not bought a "Doggy
Do Right". He's offered help for free.)

M.
--
Ms. Mick Owen Crneckiy
http://www.crneckiy.com
& http://tarot.crneckiy.com
E-mail & MSN Messenger: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 & Yahoo!: MickCrneckiy ~ ICQ: 72461227

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> We have now moved Aria to my oldest's bedroom,

STUPID PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BREED, billyboy <{}: ~ ( >

> and no longer rely on the childs gate.

Oh, you mean "MANAGEMENT ALWAYS FAILS", billyboy:

Re: Dog Whisperer Week on National Geographic
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006

"Handsome Jack Morrison" <handsomejackmorri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message news:i222d25gibj3sdv85pg8u370e4m4ap1v10@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 again, "****" happens.

It's possible to avoid "****" from happening altogether,
by never doing anything, but that doesn't help dogs very
much, does it?

But as some folks are wont to say: "Management
always fails."

It'll fail for you one day, too. And I bet it already
has, probably many times, in fact.

The more dogs you try to manage, the more
things you try to do, the more times it'll fail.

Because I've see too much "****" actually happen,
and know that it's impossible to totally prevent.

"****" has happened a number of times just today, at
my place, because someone simply forgot to do what
he was supposed to do. He's done it correctly, oh,
maybe a thousand times now, but today he didn't, and
"****" happened.

Actually, you should feel pretty good about the fact "
that he actually shows "****" happening on his show.

                   -------------- 

lying frosty dahl wrote:

"My behaviorist friend says, however, that "management
always fails." "my aggression-specialist friend has a maxim:
"management always fails."

                       -------------------- 

             BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

> While Aria is now safe

                 INDEED?

WOULD YOU BET YOUR LIFE ON THAT, billyboy??

>  and interacting well with people, we ar making little
> if any progress on introducing the dog and cat to one
> another.

                          Naaaaah??

             BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

> Are there any suggestions on how to procede?

               Oh, INDEEDY, billyboy~!:

"You Lying Sack Of Dung.When Have I Ever Said
Anything About Using A Prong Collar, Or Any Collar
Correction At All, To Make Dogs Friendly To House
Cats? Don't bother. The answer is never," lying "I
LOVE KOEHLER" lynn.

lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn writes about kats and dogs:

"This Article Is Something We've Put Together
For SF GSD Rescue:

From: Lynn Kosmakos (lkosma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: I have a dog he has cats
Date: 1999/11/20

ginge...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>  How can I get him to quit chasing the cats.

Okay - this is going to be a bit loooong  - Lynn K.

"Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.  Don't
forget to put the muzzle on the dog.   I think a prong works
better than a choke with less chance of injury to the dog in
this situation.

Electronics can be used to create an aversion to cats, but
should be used under the direction of a trainer who knows how
to instruct the owner in their proper use.   Electronics can
take the form of shock, sonic or citronella collars.  At that
time the owner will train with electronics instead of food or
whatever other reward system was being used."

8)  Put a prong collar with a six-foot leash on the dog.
Don't forget to put the muzzle on the dog.   I think a prong
works better than a choke with less chance of injury to the
dog in this situation.   Have the dog in a sit-stay next to
you with most of the slack out of the leash and let the cat
walk through the room and up to the dog if it wishes (this is
why you have the dog muzzled).

If the dog makes an aggressive move towards the
cat, it must be corrected strongly with both your
voice and the collar.

This is im****tant - the correction must be physically
very strong - not a nag.   (PS: not many dogs need
to be corrected at all)."

 Baghdad Bob <Baghdadbob> wrote in message
<news:04591a2c5d469ef78d35c89ed4ed58f7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>...

 Lynn, looks like he got you there if these
 quotes are true.
 In the posts below you take responsibility for
 making those calls.

 In your post above, you state you do not
 make those calls.

 Which one is it?

                      WORDS OF WISDOM
                 From Our Own Lynn Kosmakos
            1200mg Of Lithium And 50 mg Of Zoloft
                        EVERY DAY
                    For Twenty Years

         I THINK I'M QUALIFIED TO TALK ABOUT LITHIUM

  "I, too, have a bi-polar mood disorder (manic-
  depression) requiring 1200mg of lithium and 50
  mg of Zoloft every day.

  I, also, care about dogs and use this forum to
  learn more, while happily sharing pertinent
  information I have learned.  But if I were ever
  to post such sh*t,  I would hope that every other
  reader of this group would be rightfully outraged."

  "Community is an evolutionary thing that we
  earn the right to participate in by observing
  the easily understood rules and contributing
  to in constructive ways."

  Lynn K.

                  ------------------------

                         SEE?

              HERE'S HOWE COME:

                 R.P.D.B. Syndrome

http://www.phule.net/mirrors/unskilled-and-unaware.html
http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf

UNSKILLED AND UNAWARE OF IT: HOW DIFFICULTIES
IN RECOGNIZING ONE'S OWN INCOMPETENCE LEAD
TO INFLATED SELF-*****SMENTS

Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants
scoring in the bottom quartile... grossly overestimated
their best performance and ability. Although their test
scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated
themselves to be in the 62nd.

- Never attribute to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.

- Sufficiently advanced incompetence is
indistinguishable from malice.

- Insufficiently advanced malice is
indistinguishable from incompetence.

               ------------------------ 

                       SEE?
 




 2 Posts in Topic:
Re: Introducing a cat to dogs
"Human_And_Animal_Be  2008-11-16 21:46:28 
Re: Introducing a cat to dogs
"Delusional_Dimensio  2008-11-16 22:18:54 

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