From: Marcel Beaudoin <mbeauSPAM_SU...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 8 Jul 2004 15:12:27 GMT
Subject: Re: torture chamber stuff for dogs!
gsw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(gswork) wrote in
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> being relatively new to dog owner****p my eyes have been opened
> to a whole range of 'products' out there that seem positively
evil!
<snip range of torture products>
<sniff> I smell...Troll!!
Do I get a prize??
Marcel
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From: Marcel Beaudoin <mbeauSPAM_SU...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 9 Jul 2004 12:12:13 GMT
Subject: Re: torture chamber stuff for dogs!
thing...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(OzDingo) wrote in news:e1b8ec5f.0407090210.1d632054
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Having read this news group for a little while, why do you all
> automatically look for trolls and TPW ?, Every new person is
> going to have questions and opinions that differ from yours.
The reason that I assumed that this person was a troll was
their tone of the message. If they have spent any time reading
some of the threads in here that deal with training of a dog,
then s/he would know that there are very few people in here
that would agree with a statement like that.
It would be very difficult to write a post that could be more
inflammatory in a place like this.
We have nothing against differing opinions, when they
are posted as opinions, followed by, "why do you think
so", and what not.
When, however, the people who use those techniques are
defined as using instruments of torture and thuis, by
definition, torturers, people tend to react in predicteable ways.
Another reason is to look at the spewings of Jerry Howe,
AKA the Puppy Wizard, and you would see the problem.
According to him, most people in here are abusers, murderers, etc.
Marcel
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Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008
Re: Questions to ask adopters
It has come to the point where Gen and I need to find
another home for Moogli. While nothing bad has
happened yet,
***(EXXXCEPT THIS: "Earlier this week, while I was
occupied, Moogli grabbed something and ran into the
bedroom. When Gen went to grab it from him, he growled
and bit her on the knuckle. :(
She freaked out, crying."
AND THIS:
Wednesday, May 09, 2007
Moogli on the other hand, is skating on very
thin ice with Gen and I at the moment. For
no apparant reason yesterday that I know of
(I was at work, it happened when Gen was
with Emilie just before taking her to daycare)
when Emilie was walking by Moogli, something
she had done several times before that morning
alone, he bit her. In the face.
Gen informed him in no uncertain terms that this
Was Not Allowed, and he spent the rest of the day
hiding in his cage.
I love Moogli to death, but the choice between
him or Emilie is not a difficult one to make.
Marcel
------------------
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~! )
his attitude towards Emilie and Sofia is
going downhill pretty quick. Physical problems have
been eliminated, as he had an annual checkup not too
long ago.
If it was just me, or just Gen and I, I would have no
problems working to try to regulate the situation.
Throw Emilie and Sofia into the situation, and I no
longer have that luxury. Gen has stated, in no uncertain
terms, that either I find a home, or he goes to the local SPCA.
Thus, it has come to the point where I have to make the
decision of what home do I send Moogli to. For those of
you that do rescue home-visits, what questions should I
be asking.
Thanks.
And to keep myself in somewhat good mood, there are
some pics of Emilie and Sofia here
:http://picasaweb.google.ca/marcel.beaudoin
--
Marcel Beaudoin and Moogli
--------------------------
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
I TOLD YOU SO <{}'; ~ ) >
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
HOWEDY marcel the imbecile idiot liar animal an
child abusin punk thug coward active acute chronic
life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES mental
case whore mongerin ***UAL SADIST, aka MACK
DADDY, Ph.D. FRAUD, OBS****ATIONIST and
PSYCHOCLHOWEN,
"Marcel Beaudoin" <marcel.beaudoin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns9B458D97323BAmarcelbeaudoingmailc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in rec.pets.dogs.behavior, Rocky <3dogs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> news:Fri9B45781AC9804australianshepherdca@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> Marcel Beaudoin <marcel.beaudoin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said in
>> rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>>
>>> One thing that should also be known. We don't give him
>>> rawhides. He tends to get possessive/growly with them.
THAT'S on accHOWENTA Moogli DON'T TRUST YOU,
marcel the imbecile idiot liar animal an child abusin punk
thug coward active acute chronic life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
mental case whore mongerin ***UAL SADIST,
aka MACK DADDY, Ph.D. FRAUD, OBS****ATIONIST and
PSYCHOCLHOWEN:
"It has come to the point where Gen and
I need to find another home for Moogli."
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
>>> He also likes to disembowel teddy bears or dog toys
>>> he plays with, usually through an eye or nose, and then
>>> eat the stuffing.
He'd PROBABLY do the SAME SAME for your little
girls if given the chance, wouldn't you agree, marcel
the imbecile idiot liar animal an child abusin punk thug
coward active acute chronic life long incurable malignant
maliciHOWES mental case whore mongerin ***UAL
SADIST, aka MACK DADDY, Ph.D. FRAUD,
OBS****ATIONIST and PSYCHOCLHOWEN??
"It has come to the point where Gen and
I need to find another home for Moogli."
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
>> Please let me know before you come to the end of your options.
Yeah? Perhaps matty will accept your little fear aggressive
hyperactive doggy, eh, marcel the imbecile idiot liar animal
an child abusin punk thug coward active acute chronic life
long incurable malignant maliciHOWES mental case whore
mongerin ***UAL SADIST, aka MACK DADDY, Ph.D.
FRAUD, OBS****ATIONIST and PSYCHOCLHOWEN??
"It has come to the point where Gen and
I need to find another home for Moogli."
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> Will do.
Of curse~!
> I have tried contacting the local rescue organization
> a couple of times, but have gotten no response at all.
Yeah. THAT'S on accHOWENTA they MURDER
"owner surrendered" fear aggressive hyperactive little
doggys like you RAISED, marcel the imbecile idiot
liar animal an child abusin punk thug coward active
acute chronic life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
mental case whore mongerin ***UAL SADIST, aka
MACK DADDY, Ph.D. FRAUD, OBS****ATIONIST
and PSYCHOCLHOWEN <{}: ~ ( >
"It has come to the point where Gen and
I need to find another home for Moogli."
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> --
> Marcel Beaudoin and Moogli
HERE'S HOWE COME marcel the imbecile idiot
liar animal an child abusin punk thug coward active
acute chronic life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
mental case whore mongerin ***UAL SADIST, aka
MACK DADDY, Ph.D. FRAUD, OBS****ATIONIST
and PSYCHOCLHOWEN GOTTA GET RID OF his
fear aggressive hyperactive psycho doggy:
"It has come to the point where Gen and
I need to find another home for Moogli."
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
HOWEDY marcel the imbecile idiot liar phd
dog an child abusin punk thug coward active
acute chronic life long incurable malignant
maliciHOWES mental case whoremongerin
***UAL SADIST, aka MACK DADDY <{}: ~ ) >,
"Marcel Beaudoin" <marcel.beaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns9AAB6CCEE8403marcelbeaudoingmailc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sofia at her Baptism
> http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e192/mbeau/Photo581.jpg
> Emilie and Shawn (my brother) in the van
> http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e192/mbeau/Photo583.jpg
> Sofia happy in her stroller
> http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e192/mbeau/Photo585.jpg
> Sofia playing
> http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e192/mbeau/Photo606.jpg
> A long day ends
> http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e192/mbeau/Photo609.jpg
> http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e192/mbeau/Photo610.jpg
Yeah, they're gettin to be BIG girls, eh, marcel the imbecile idiot
liar dog an child abusin punk thug coward Ph.D. MENTAL CASE?
Pretty soon they'll be able to go to work in your stable, eh??
"Marcel Beaudoin" <marcel.beaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns9A4ADE163ADF2mbeausympaticoca@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Dial-up warning
> Sofia at about 3 months old
> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=91711&l=9f5f9&id=864585696
> Emilie and Sofia together
> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=91712&l=bc342&id=864585696
HOWE COME you don't have a picture of Mooglie playin
with your babies, eh, marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog an
child abusin punk thug coward active accute chronic life
long incurable malignant maliciHOWES mental case?:
Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:17 PM
Moogli on the other hand, is skating on very
thin ice with Gen and I at the moment. For
no apparant reason yesterday that I know of
(I was at work, it happened when Gen was
with Emilie just before taking her to daycare)
when Emilie was walking by Moogli, something
she had done several times before that morning
alone, he bit her. In the face.
Gen informed him in no uncertain terms that this
Was Not Allowed, and he spent the rest of the day
hiding in his cage.
I love Moogli to death, but the choice between
him or Emilie is not a difficult one to make.
Marcel
------------------
BWEEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> Enjoy!!
INDEED? Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS:
From: Marcel Beaudoin <mbeaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 15 Sep 2005 14:47:08 GMT
Subject: Re: I don't THINK I need to worry....
"White Monkey" <k.m.c.oo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
news:43283c75$0$11071$e4fe514c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thus I think instead of worrying about this or
> trying harder to limit dog/baby/chew-thing
> encounters, I should just keep an eye on things.
> What are you folks' takes on this?
I am in the same situation.
When Emilie was born, Moogli wouldn't go near her unless
she was asleep and not moving. He was absolutely terrified
of her and wouldn't come within 5 feet of her.
Pulling him closer resulted in the lean-away and much
struggling. He has gotten a lot better in that he will
sniff her quite a bit if she is sleeping or not looking
at him, but he is still wary of her.
(She, OTOH, is in love with him. If he is moving,
the rest of us might as well not exist)
Right now, Gen and I are going with the idea that
any interaction Moogli has with her is good. He is
pretty much a food whore, so we are putting treats
by her and getting him to take them, petting him
with he hands when he is relly calm, that sort of
thing.
Personally, we are just making sure that Moogli isn't
pushed (too much or too fast) in his interactions with
Emilie. If he is chewing on a rawhide or something, we
try to keep her grabby hands away from him.
If he is playing with something on the other hand, we
will take it, put it by her and get him to come and
take it.
He has growled at her once or twice, but Moogli talks
by growling, so it wasn't a worry. He has also snapped
at her once, but that was because she had gotten a really
good grab (as only babies can do) of his tail and yanked,
hard. He would snap at me if I did that as well.
--
Marcel and Moogli
http://mudbunny.blogspot.com/
BWEEEAAAHAHAAA~!~!~!
HOWE COME you don't have a picture of Mooglie playin
with your Mrs., eh, marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog an
child abusin punk thug coward active accute chronic life
long incurable malignant maliciHOWES mental case:
"Earlier this week, while I was occupied, Moogli grabbed
something and ran into the bedroom. When Gen went to
grab it from him, he growled and bit her on the knuckle. :(
She freaked out, crying."
Wednesday, May 09, 2007
Moogli on the other hand, is skating on very
thin ice with Gen and I at the moment. For
no apparant reason yesterday that I know of
(I was at work, it happened when Gen was
with Emilie just before taking her to daycare)
when Emilie was walking by Moogli, something
she had done several times before that morning
alone, he bit her. In the face.
Gen informed him in no uncertain terms that this
Was Not Allowed, and he spent the rest of the day
hiding in his cage.
I love Moogli to death, but the choice between
him or Emilie is not a difficult one to make.
Marcel
------------------
Say "ADIOS, Gen..."
BWEEEAAAAHAHAAAA~!~!~!
Hey marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog an child abuser?
HOWE COME do you suppHOWES your daughter Emilee
is still usin a SUCKER at nearly five years of age, marcel?
"Marcel Beaudoin" <mbeaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message news:XdYV9.25072$j5.115440@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Ohhh. I have an opinion on prong collars.
> Might as well have you take away my birthday.
Well marcel the imbecile, The Freakin Simply Amazing
Puppy Wizard CAN'T take away your birthday, HOWEver
HE CAN IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE and DISCREDIT you
as a liar a dog abuser a fraud a coward and active acute
chronic long term incurable mental case by QUOTING
your own posted CASE HISTORY <{); ~ ) >
"Well. The weekend gave us some good news and some
bad news for Moogli. Start with the bad news. Moogli
gets a participation certificate from his training class.
The fact that he shuts down with other dogs around him
makes it really difficult for him to do anything. Stacey
(the trainer) recommended putting him through another
session of puppy training."
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
Subject: Re: GL vs. Prong
Date: 2002-12-23 11:14:11 PST
"Mudbunny" <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
A.K.A marcel the clown mbeaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrotein message news:ea2dcca7.0212231102.510e9db7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, time to add my 2 cents (Canadian, so about half
a cent american) worth. When I first started looking into
getting a dog, I wandered out on the net and found info
on a prong collar, and when I looked at it, it looked like
this HORRID thing designed to hurt dogs.
Then, I saw on some show (don't remember which)
info on choke-collars vs. prong collars. The host
actually put one of each on HIMSELF and tried it.
HE found that the choke collar did what it was designed
to do, choke the living daylights out of whoever has it on.
The prong collar on the other hand provided even
pressure all the way around the neck, and he could
take a lot harder of a pull before it got really uncomfortable.
Marcel Beaudoin
And THAT'S HOWE COME DOGS GO INSANE.
Thank you Mudbunny. Now we know HOWE COME
we got lying dog abusing Thug Cowards hurting dogs
and believing they're not hurtin them...
Local: Tues,Dec 31 2002 11:29 am
Subject: Re: Weekend update (With Marcel and Moogli)
"I think the best thing to do is to let him run and
scream, eventualkly he will learn that they will not
kill him. I will be close and let him hide behind me
if necessary, but I won't pick him up. I will also
ask the trainer to keep a close eye on him when they
play." Marcel C. Beaudoin
From: Marcel Beaudoin
Date: Mon, Feb 17 2003 2:16 pm
Email: Marcel Beaudoin <mbeaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Lee DeRaud <lee.der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
news:ei625v0supaipeng9dea631dm12s8jpso5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I'll bet the *other* three times are well worth the
> price of admission, at least to a third-party observer.
> Lee
To me, it is kinda scary. We have become kinda used to
Moogli wandering around on the couch (except when he
decides that the best place to watch TV is from my chest,
in front of my head) so often the only warning I get of a
successful attempt is seeing him chewing on something,
taking it away from him, and giving it back to Gen.
Unsuccessful attempts are notified by screams of
OW!!OW!!OW!!
I have been told that this situation is not funny.
Not one bit.
--
*******************************************
Marcel Beaudoin
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From: Marcel Beaudoin
Date: Thurs, Apr 3 2003 10:49 am
Email: Marcel Beaudoin <mbeaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
"shelly" <scouvre...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in news:b6hfjf$5cu7a$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In news:Xns93525C388ACFDmbeauurkagurkasympat@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Marcel Beaudoin <mbeaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> typed:
>> I am a very light sleeper and wake up a couple times a
>> night. Don't know why, I just do (might come from 6
>> years in the artillery reserves).
> or you wake yourself up snoring!
Entirely possible. I did that on Saturday afternoon. I was
sleeping on the couch in the afternoon, and would wake
myself up with my snoring. Gen was on the otherside of
the apartment working on the laptop. SHe said it was loud
from where she was.
This time, Moogli didn't react to my snoring, he just laid
down with his head jammed into my armpit. (To block
the noise maybe??)
>> I calm him down, and he spent the rest of the
>> night sleeping on my chest (advantage of a small dog) or
>> beside me, leaning against me through the covers.
> both of my dogs have vivid dreams (lots of movement and
> vocalization). i've never had one of them wake up afraid,
> though. poor Moogli.
It's the first time he has woken my up with his dreaming.
He was a bit panicked for the first couple of minutes, but
calmed down prertty quickly after that.
--
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Marcel Beaudoin & Moogli
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Do you EXXXPECT Uncle will be visiting soon, marcel?
Subject: Weekly update (by Marcel for Moolgi) - LONG
1From: Marcel Beaudoin
Date: Mon, Aug 25 2003 10:50 am
Email: Marcel Beaudoin <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Groups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
Sorry for the delay, but real life things
(like a wedding) got in the way.
Executive Summary:
Moogli is not a fan of my brother
Statement from my mom about Moogli
Moolgi goes on vacation.
Moogli's acrobatics
Moogli discovers that he is (was??) a man
The race circuit
Some of you may have gotten this from previous posts.
Moogli is not a fan of my brother. The first time my
brother showed up in the apartment was when Gen
went to pick up Shawn from the bus station.
They got home, let Moogli out of the cage, and
Moogli spent the day either hiding behind Gen
or barking at my brother from undereath the
futon or the living room table.
Wierd little dog. However, any uncertainty would
disappear when it came time for my brother to take
a nap. Then, Moogli would decide to nap with him.
However, once my brother would wake up again, it
was back to fear.
The fear thing lasted longer than I thought, mainly
because my brother spent a lot of time out with
friends, thus Moogli never really had to spend a lot
of time around him. Nearest I can figure, Shawn
wierded Moolgi out because he has the same general
body type as me, moves like I do, but, he is *not* me.
Once Shawn started spending some time at home, Moogli
got a bit better, but he was still uncertain. He would crouch,
moving forward *very* slowly, until my brother would
make a "threatening" gesture (like turning his head,
talking, or any other normal movement) at which point
Moolgi would run under the futon.
This graduated to apoint where he would move up to
Shawn, sniff him, and then run around the futon,
through the kitchen and do the same thing from the
other side of the sofa. He did this for about 30 minutes.
<snip idiocy>
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Marcel Beaudoin & Moogli
"Marcel Beaudoin" <marcel.beaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns98289F2F760A3mbeausympaticoca@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "jordan.mcche...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <jordan.mcche...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in>
> news:1156361869.284003.307330@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Have you done anything to make him enjoy
>>> being in the crate?
>>> What crate training have you done?
That's sheer idiocy.
>> I made it as comfortable as possible for him
>> before. With bedding, toys, and treats, and
>> even covering it with a sheet for privacy.
>> None of this stopped the whining. I have
>> him eating in his crate, I can get him to go
>> into his crate for a treat. He's not terrified
>> of the crate, he just doesn't like being in it
>> at night when we are there.
> Than you just need to be patient IMO.
That so, marcel the imbecile idiot liar
dog abuser Ph.D. psychoclHOWEN?
> He will grow accustomed to sleeping in the crate.
Some dogs DIE from being locked in
boxes and ignored when they cry.
> It may take some time, but he will grow accustomed to it.
Ahhh, the voice of EXXXPERIENCE!:
Puppy Nipping/Biting Advice
5 From: Marcel Beaudoin
Date: Mon, Feb 10 2003 12:12 pm
Email: "Marcel Beaudoin" <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Groups: alt.pets.dogs.labrador
"KeithMorri" <keithmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:20030210100213.19815.00001033@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> My 10-week-old lab, Cooper, has started to
> aggressively nip and bite. He has taken a
> particular fancy to my hands, fingers, arms,
> feet, legs, pretty much whatever he can get.
> I want to stop this as soon as possible but so
> far nothing seems to be working.
> Here's what I've done so far -
> 1. The high-pitched "OWWW". Doesn't phase him,
> actually it seems to make him more aggressive.
> 2. Putting my finger down his throat. Also
> doesn't work.
> He'll stop, gag, and resume biting.
At 10 weeks old, they aren't all that bright. It may take
a couple of weeks/months doing #1 for it to take effect.
Like Montana said, you have to ignore them completely for
a couple of minutes. That is what mom and the other pups
would do when they played too rough. They learn that biting
hard stops play, ergo, biting hard is bad.
This is what we did with our pup. It took a couple of
months, and even now he bites hard when we play too
rough, but I say OWWW and he stops, and usually
kisses the offended finger/wrist.
Marcel
Rocky <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
news:Fri95B37CF743490australianshepherdca@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Marcel Beaudoin said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>> Hate to break it to you Matt, but like I said in the
>> e-mail I sent you, there was no forgery. All the
>> posts in this thread attributed to me were written
>> by me.
>
> Sorry to not get back to you on email (I'm dealing
> with a ton of that right now), but there were a couple
> of things that led me to believe it wasn't you - the
> main one being that you tried relocating Moogli to
> the basement.
NP. I figured that was it. As for relocating him to
the basement, that was made under a great deal
of duress.
Once I told Genevieve that if she wanted
him to stop crying, that she would be going
down the stairs all the time, the idea got shelved.
Now he is in the bedroom in the corner. Settles down
quite quietly at night, no squirtguns needed any more.
Funny story with that. When I leave for work, Moogli
gets to sleep the rest of the morning in bed with Gen.
Yesterday morning, when Gen woke up, she couldn't
feel him in bed with her so she looked around in a panic.
The first thought in her head was that she had squished
him flat. (I know I know, but as Gen gets more pregnant,
her brains are turning to mush. I expect to come home
one day to find whiteout on the laptop) She looked and
looked in the bed under the covers for him in a panic.
She looked downtairs in the living room to see if he had
gone down to one of the couches and crashed on a pillow.
Finally, she gets back upstairs and sees him asleep (still)
in his cage.
--
Marcel and Moogli
BWEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHHAAAA~!~!~!
> Marcel and Moogli
Hey marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abusin whoremongerer?
Will you an your brother be havin any play time while he visits?
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
marcel beaudoin
***ual Sadist / Masochist
Bondage / Discipline Feti****st,
Whoremonger
Dog Trainin And Pronged Spiked Pinch Choke Collars
Go Together Like
A Child An Paddle <{) :~ ) >
HOWEDY marcel the imbecile idiot imbecile liar phd
dog an child abusin punk thug coward active acute chronic
life long incurable malignant mental case whoremongerin
***UAL SADIST, aka MACK DADDY <{}: ~ ) >
It AIN'T NO SECRET many of the r..p.d.b.er's are ***UAL
SADISTS; lone hanson, laura arlov, susan fraser, ****rley chong,
DOGMAN, tarag, tara o, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn, lyin
frosty dahl, marcel beaudoin, show dog bark aka mirelle,
sinofa*****, the list goes on an on and encomp***** ALL psychoses
an neuroses, perversions and fetishes; urolangia, coprophagia,
annilingus, animal ***, any despicable practices, do don't let
noWON thinkThe Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
Amazing Grand Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Goat, Ferret, Monkey,
SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard is PICKIN on "MACK DADDY"
marcel <{}: ~ ( >
The Followin Posts Are Brought To You Courtesy of The Sincerely
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Subject: {ASSD} - Looking for title for BDSM story
1 From: Mudbunny
Date: Tues, Jun 22 2004 3:00 pm
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mudbunny)
I would like the help of the residents of ASSD for help in finding a
story. It is a rather long one that centers (I think) around BDSM.
It starts when the main character is a young boy and he gets into
some BDSM with his neighbour. I remember one of the parts is
that she ties a thread/rope/yarn around his cock.
As an adult, he goes to work for a company that specialises in
hosting websites that deal with *****ca and BDSM. He ends up
being a sub to a bunch of the women there, despite being married.
At some point in time, his wife dies. Also, his old neighbour comes
back and tries to buy him. He also names a server after her (the
neighbour)
Thanks
mudbunny
You might wanna try that thread on Moogli's Pee Pee, eh marcel
the imbecile idiot liar dog an child abusin punk thug coward acitve
acute chronic long term incurable mental case an self perceived
MACK DADDY~!:
Subject: Moogli is on his way to being a man!!!
1 From: Mudbunny
Date: Thurs, Jan 2 2003 11:22 am
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mudbunny)
Groups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
For now, anyways.
At 16 weeks of age (possibly earlier, as we just noticed
it this week), my ****h-tzu/mini schnauzer has discovered
that he is a man!!
To the unfortunate suprise of a number of fuzzy slippers
in the apartment.
I am not sure if he knows WHAT he is doing, but it is
sure funny to see him doing it...
He won't be doing it for long though, once training cl*****
are over and he has all his teeth, he will be going to the vet.
Marcel C. Beaudoin
Pray for the poor slippers, they will never be the same again...
THAT'S INSANE, MACK DADDY <{) : ~ ( >
9 From: Mudbunny
Date: Mon, Dec 23 2002 12:32 pm
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mudbunny)
Groups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
I always see it as the dog doing it on the chance that they are
getting food. I read somewhere it is the "hope springs eternal" idea.
Sorta like how single guys go out to the bar quite often on the hope
that they get lucky. All it takes is one success (despite hundreds of
failures) to make the positive link.
Marcel
You might have better LUCK if you tie that thread arHOWEND
your puppy's Pee Pee, maybe it'll heighten your enjoyment of his
submissive urination, eh marcel?
Subject: (ASS) Looking for a story (another one)
1 From: Mudbunny
Date: Tues, Dec 10 2002 10:47 am
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mudbunny)
Groups: alt.***.stories
Thanks to the people that replied to my previous post.
The story was Hildy, and I found it on Storiesonline.
My next request is this:
This one is a longish story. More of a novel than anything else. It
involves a man and a younger female (high scchool maybe??). All I
remember is that his house is high tech.. Has voice controls and
everything for the lihjts and stuff like that.
I know it is not much to go on, but I hope it helps.
Me
From: Mudbunny
Date: Wed, Dec 11 2002 12:44 pm
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mudbunny)
Groups: alt.***.stories
Unfortunately, I am quite certain it is his. I think the general
plot is similar to Call Girl Cheerleaders. It starts off with one
girl, and then she invites friends over as well.
Subject: {ASS} Req: Master's Ring
1 From: Chemguy
Date: Sat, Aug 14 1999 12:00 am
Email: Chemguy <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Groups: alt.***.stories
I am looking for the rest of a Story Called The Master's Ring.
I have parts 1-3 of 14, but I would like the rest. It looks very
interesting and seems to have a really good plot.
Any help would be appreciated.
Please e-mail as attachments or post o the group.
Thanx
Subject: {ASSD} Looking for Story ID
1 From: mudbunny
Date: Mon, Jan 30 2006 3:11 pm
Email: "mudbunny" <marcel.beaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Groups: alt.***.stories.d
I am looking for the title (or hopefully, a llink) to a
story I remember reading quite a few years ago.
The central character is a man who gets involved in
a BDSM relation****p with some of the senior executives
at a cor****ation where he works.
He is the senior network executive, IIRC.
The story starts out with him as a young child, where he plays D/S
games with his neighbour and she ties his cock with a piece of red
yarn. Years later, he still carries that piece of yarn in his wallet.
He is married, but partway through the story (it is
fairly long) his wife dies and he is distraught.
Partway through the story, the neighbour girl comes back as
the head of a fairly large business group (I think) and wants
to buy him once she finds out that he named one of the server
farms after her.
I have been searching on Google for this story for quite
a while now, but can't seem to find it.
Subject: Help would be greatly appreciated.
6 From: Chemguy
Date: Sat, Jun 5 1999 12:00 am
Email: Chemguy <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Groups: alt.***.prostitution
As mentioned previously, incall in Canada is illegal, outcall is
legal.
That being said, most cities have a wide variety of incall
providers. They are generally not harassed by the cops
unless there are complaints by neighbours. Depending on
where you are going, the current law enforcement attitude
may vary.
Your best bet would be to check out
Lyla's List at http://www.lyla.com/
.
Most, if not all, of your questions can be answered there.
> That out of the way I have a very stupid question to ask. Never been
> to canada but am going there soon. Is prostitution legal there?
--
Chemguy
**The line between genius and insanity is very**
**fine...Could you please tell me which side I**
**am on???**
You're on the SADIST side of BDSM, marcel the imbecile <{): ~ ) >
From: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mudbunny)
Date: 31 Dec 2002 06:29:16 -0800
Subject: Re: [Jerry] Re: New Puppy -
but we both work, what's best "get adjusted" strategy???
There is NOTHING wrong with aversions, when necessary,
as a last resort.
Do you have kids Jerry?? Do you know people with kids??
Aversion is, at times, necessary. Your kids reach for the element
on the stove once, you tell them no, twice, tell them no. After a
certain point in time, you have two choices. You can either give
them a swat on the bum, and they probably won't do it again, or
you let them touch the element and they WON'T do it again,
garaunteed.
> NOW GET THE HEEL OFF OUR FORUM or study
> your FREE copy of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training
> Method manual and CONTRIBUTE to our forum,
> Marcel, or get the heel outta here.
>
> What's it gonna be? You gonna continue to make
> yourself out to be a CHUMP PUNK LYING DOG
> ABUSING THUG COWARD like your mentors and
> peers, or are you gonna do what's RIGHT for your
> own dog, Marcel?
You see Jerry. We were having an intelligent, open discussion.
I like discussion. I like the back and forth exchange of ideas.
That is what the internet (that is what society in general) is
based upon. You have good ideas!! You obviously believe
in them. The others beloieve in theirs.
The best way to get them to listen to what you have to say
(and listen with an open mind) is to do it rationally and
calmly. Not with insults.
Have a Happy New Year
Marcel C. Beaudoin
Are you fixin to provide the ENTERTRAINMENT, mudbunny?:
Subject: (asp) Need Toronto girl..
2 From: mcb26
Date: Thurs, May 7 1998 12:00 am
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
alt.***.prostitution
> Ps. please do not recommend anybody associated with Lyla
> or her list. I have seen their posts on this group and can not
> imagine being with those ruffians
Unfortunately for you, you have been mislead. While I haven't tried
anybody directly associated with Lyla, before you make such a quick
decision, you should check out her Lyla's List at
http://www.lyla.com/index2.html
It is pretty damn helpful if you are looking for someone in Toronto
Subject: Req info on San Francisco
1 From: mcb26
Date: Fri, Jun 26 1998 3:00 am
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
alt.***.prostitution
I will be in San Francisco for the afternoon and evening of
the 9th of July. I just have a couple questions for all of
the experienced ASPers out there.
What local papers should I look in? Are there any hotels
that would give the escort trouble when she shows up to
get to my room?
Any recommendations for someone who doesn't have a
lot of experience in this field?
I would be looking for a young (mid 20's) escort, with
larger than average breasts, long hair, that will allow
me FULL use of the time.
Preferably she would be very enthusiastic, enjoy
(or give a very good illusion of that) her work,
and not mind recieving, as well as giving pleasure.
Thanx
-----------------
Seems you're a bit of a mommy's boy, eh marcel?
Perhaps you was weaned too early, eh chump?
3 From: mcb26
Date: Sun, Feb 14 1999 12:00 am
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
alt.***.prostitution
Try Lyla's List
http://www.lyla.com/
They show only the most recent reviews, but from what
I've ead, you can't go wrong with Annik, an independant.
MCB
Subject: (ASS) Looking for a story
1 From: Mudbunny
Date: Fri, Dec 6 2002 5:30 pm
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mudbunny)
Groups: alt.***.stories
Hey there. I am looking for a story that has stuck in my head. It
involves a husband and wife. They go to a party, and the wife thinks
that the husband has cheated on her, so she ties him up and cheats on
him with someone (his best friend I think???). They then, staying in
the same house, try to work it out.
Can anyone help????
Subject: {ASSD} - Looking for another story
1 From: Mudbunny
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2003 3:46 pm
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mudbunny)
Groups: alt.***.stories.d
Hey. Looking for another story.
This one is a lot more dom/sub. It starts when the guy is young, and
he is playing dom/sub games with a neighbour, where he is the sub.
His nieghbour ties a string or something to his cock to show she
owns him. Later on in life, he goes to work for a web firm, and
finds that the owners are all women and they all dominate him.
They have a drug that enables him to stay hard but not orgasm.
It is a very long story. At some point, his wife dies (is killed by
a drunk driver maybe??) and they comfort him.
There is a challenge where he tries to last a weekend without
begging for mercy or somethoing like that.
Later on, the firm is to host a dom/sub website, and the
owner of the website is the girl from his childhood.
Thanks again for your help
Subject: Looking for stories
1 From: Mudbunny
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2003 2:46 pm
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mudbunny)
Groups: alt.***.stories.d
This is a fairly longish story that I am looking for. It hsa a single
guy in it who has a house that is pretty well computer controlled.
He can tell the house to turn on the lights and stuff like that.
A teenager (a neighbour or friend's daughter) comes over and
they get romantically involved. Her friends come over, and I
think he has *** with them as well.
Another story is this. Again, it is a single guy with a house.
He has a neighbour with some sons and a daughter. He pays
the sons to do yard worlk as they get older. As each one goes
off to college, the next youngest one gets the job. Finally, the
daughter gets the job. They get romantically involved as well.
Thanks
Subject: puppy advise please
11 From: Mudbunny
Date: Mon, Dec 30 2002 9:32 am
Email: m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Mudbunny)
A friend had a golden retriever with the same problem, towards me!!
Whenever I would show up, she would come up to me, whine, flop
on her back, and then do her best "old Faithful" imitation.
Our solution was to do as was mentioned previously, and greet
her outside. After a while (about 3 years!!!) she grew out of it.
Good luck
Marcel C. Beaudoin
------------------------
Seems you're into "water s****ts" and Bondage
an Discipline an Sado Masochism, eh marcel
the imbecile lyin DOG ABUSIN SADIST?
Well, you're in EXXXCELLENT company:
HOWEDY elegy you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute
chronic life long incurable malignant mental case and
Pit Bull RESCUER,
"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:b70im3dhe5f5nlbeggsqpl0p0qpsnllk38@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:11:55 -0800, Henry <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>Mixed terrier *****, 30#, about 5 years old, rescued.
>> Good health, only one bad habit: attacks!
>
>> Can a shock collar be used to retrain this rescue that attacks
>> other dogs? So far she's not a biter but a barker/lunger, but
>> if this cannot be "fixed" she'll become unrescued.
>
>> That would be a pity because in other respects she's
>> a fine dog, and with people, she's wonderful.
> putting a shock collar on a dog-aggressive dog is a pretty horrible
idea.
You mean, Vs puttin a shock collar on a fearful
or shy dog like your own, elegy?
> what other methods of retraining have you tried?
Well, you can BET he ain't tried MURDERIN his dog YET,
like HOWE you done your own last TWO DEAD "RESCUE"
dogs. REMEMBER, elegy?
> for my two dog-aggressive dogs, one was fear-based,
ALL aggression is FEAR, elegy. THAT'S HOWE COME
you MURDERED your own last TWO DEAD "RESCUE"
dogs. REMEMBER, elegy?
> so i used a lot of desensitization and rewarding for calm behavior.
That so? And yet you SEZ "neither is "fixed" in that
they're not trustworthy off-leash around strange dogs,"
so WHAT'S YOUR POINT, elegy? Are you a glutton
for PUNISHMENT every time you post your lies insanity
and idiocy to my forums?
> the other is just a *****y dog-aggressive pit bull,
THAT'S INSANE, elegy. Here's your own "*****y dog-aggressive
pit bull" GOIN INSANE from your "desensitization and rewarding
for calm behavior" on your PRONGED SPIKED PINCH CHOKE
COLLAR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzBtxevvcFs&mode=user&search=
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> so i've done a lot of work on self-control and attention.
THAT'S ABSURD. Your "attention" trainin means you offer
BRIBES to make your dog LOOK AT YOU instead of the
other critters she FEARS which makes your dog AGRESS
in order to GET THE COOKIE you're withHOWELDIN.
> neither is "fixed" in that they're not trustworthy off-leash around
> strange dogs, but nor are they problems leashed in pubic spaces.
Well that's just plain NOT TRUE, elegy. You recently called
animal CON-TROLL at least two times on your neighbor's
dogs when you ran across them ON LEASH in your neighborhood
and your own dogs who are "nor are they problems leashed in
pubic spaces" WENT INSANE. REMEMBER, elegy?
Well elegy, I AIN'T gonna dig up them "OLD POSTS" from last
month. We'll just move along to you HURTIN INTIMIDATIN an
MURDERIN your own last two DEAD rescue dogs and then into
you own POSTED CASE HISTORY of INCURABLE MENTAL
ILLNESS.
But first, would you answer just WON question, please, elegy?
HOWE COME would you set your INFORMATIVE posts to
EXXXPIRE in six days, elegy? Are you EMBARRASSED
by your own words, you lyin animal murderin punk thug coward
mental case fraud an SCAM ARTIST?
matty aka Rocky EXXXPLAINS HOWE COME:
"Rocky" <2d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
For reasons I'll only explain privately, I've gone no
archive, and it's a shame. Once in a while, while
looking for something else, I'll run into an old post
of mine. What an idiotic response! Whoops.
BWEEEAAAHAHAAAHAAHAAA!~!~!
And NHOWE, let's get on with the elegy murderin
her own DEAD RESCUE dogs SHOWE:
On Oct 26, 6:06 pm, elegy <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:27:15 +0200 (CEST), Anonymous
> <nob...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Puppy is about 7 months old. I'm trying to teach him "come."
> > Sometimes he does it fine. Other times, he just sits there,
> > looks at me and ignores me. It is extremely frustrating.
That ain't hardly as frustrating as MURDERIN your own
last TWO DEAD "RESCUE" dogs on accHOWENTA you
ABUSED them, is it, elegy, you pathetic miserable stinkin
lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active accute
chronic life long incurable mental case.
> this is my favorite link for teaching a reliable recall
> <http://www.****rleychong.com/keepers/Lesson6.html>
Yeah? Your friend Mistress ****rley is a B&D/S&M SPECIALIST
who can't train the come command withHOWET her trusty SHOCK
COLLAR you pathetic lyin animal murderin ignorameHOWES:
Here's your PAL ****rly chong, crapHOWES CLICKER TRAINER:
"To be effective as a positive punisher, I set the level
of shock at a level high enough (in my best guesstimation)
to be unpleasant to the dog. I want the dog to startle a
bit and even yelp when they get shocked.
No, this is not pleasant.
After each shock, I call the dog again (because many
dogs tend to panic when something mysteriously reaches
out and stings them)."
But don't go away yet, my pretty flying monkey, there's MOORE:
"If the dog is still refusing the recall, then I escalate my
aversive a bit--usually, to taking two big handfuls of ruff
as I move backwards.
Some dogs do get "long line wise.""
No, some trainers are just long line stupid.
You can't force a dog to come.
"That is, they never refuse a recall while on the long line
but when the long line is gone, they are unreliable even if
the handler started with close recalls off lead in a familiar
(and safely fenced) area."
That's because you can't teach compliance with force no
matter HOWE gently you try to force. ANY force, even verbal
intimidation, will cause the opposition reflex to compel the
dog to do other than what you want.
Too bad you sharp trainers here don't understand that. It's
called positive thigmotaxis, and it's just as valid with a
choke collar as it is with a mental attitude. Force causes
the dog to not respond.
"IF the dog never ever refuses a recall while on the long
line, no matter what the distraction (and I am pretty good
at devising distractions for this test!), then I move to a
shock collar."
That's a competent clicker trainer, by golly!
Where do you people come off with that kind of crap?
Here's Miss ****rly, the CLICKER TRAINER you recommended to us:
Newsgroups: soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm
From: M ****rley Chong <eithne @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:16:30 -0500
Subject: Re: OT Big dog problem. Serious help needed
MasterofDelight wrote:
> Welcome back, and it sure did not take you long to pick up on
> the dog training thread. As you can see, you commentary was
> missed.
Thanks!
Yes, there's nothing more likely to lure me out of lurk
mode than a training question. I'd planned to lurk for
a couple weeks to get up to speed again but before I
knew it, the keyboard was rattling.
> OB:bdsm Do you give advice on "puppy training" too?
Sure! I may not have a clue as to what I'm talking
about but that never stops me.
****rley eithne @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.****rleychong.com
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From: M ****rley Chong <eit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:48:53 -0500
Subject: Re: pregnancy and S&M?
dionysiangrrrl wrote:
> I just learned I'm pregnant, and while in most respects, I find
> it to be excellent news, I'm a little concerned about play time.
>
> I'm a fairly heavy masochist used to frequent beatings and
> torture, and have held back from play so far until I get a little
> more advanced, just to be safe.
>
> But if I make it healthily through the first trimester, does
> anyone have any advice for pregnancy whompings? (Besides
> the fairly obvious "no more gut punches" rule :)
Congratulations!
My advice is to ask your doctor. Because your doctor is the
one who knows your specific conditions, because there's a
lot of advice out there of varying quality (including this!)
and because it's im****tant to have peace of mind that you
are doing the right thing at a time like this.
Most doctors have heard it all. If they haven't heard it all,
they should have. <G> If you have reason to believe that your
doctor may react badly then maybe that's an indication this
isn't the doctor for you.
Better to find this out now rather than when you are in
labor and not in the mood to holler at some rank narrow
mindedness and unable to gather your dignity and march out.
Those hospital gowns just don't cut it for dignified exits
unless you back out the door and then there's the little
problem of who is out in the hall.
Much easier in the long run to tell the truth.
****rley
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From: redneckpai...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Joe Sergio)
Date: 17 Apr 2004 00:51:40 GMT
Subject: Re: OT Big dog problem. Serious help needed
JK said:
> Gee, let's see, why not take your dogs to a training school
> or ask your local police how they do it with their dogs?!
Ive already called the K9 officer in my town.
Left a message. He will get in touch with me.
> And I don't know do you think maybe slapping your dogs
> around so much and living with them, I mean all that attention
> you are giving them might just have something to do with why
> they like you and your family more than the neighbors?
I don't slap them around so much. I'll pop em, and all
when they do something wrong, and fuss at em. But I have
found something even better to make them stop what they
are doing.
A dustbuster. Just turn it on. Or show it to them. They
hate any type of va*** cleaner. It's worked about keeping
Jake out of the garbage. I sat in the kitchen a whole day,
and every time he went to the garbage can and went to stick
his head in, I turned it on. He stopped that.
Mainly I just pet them. They lay there by my chair and I
reach down and scratch them. They get up in the chair with
me. Tha'ts not easy when they are that big. But they still
think they are puppies. I do spoil them sometimes, but they
are my boys, and I love them.
> Hey, but this is the SSBB clearinghouse and you know the
> brain bucket is just outside and we do expect you to leave
> your brain there first before you post your problems here.
>
> Afterall, we all know that SSBB has all the answers you
> need for all your problems. Don't bother picking up your
> phone and calling around 'cause you got the good ole
> SSBB to help solve your problems.
You dumbass, I did call around and ask some advice from
other folks as well first. I posted it here because Miss
****rley trains dogs, and there are a few folks here who
know more about it than I do.
Why do you try to turn every post you reply to into a noncon
humiliation scene with you topping? Could it be that this is
the only action your getting? LOL
> Time to fetch your brain. Come on boy you can do it. There you go.
I'd ask you to fetch yours, but I don't think you can
see something that small without a microscope.
--
Joe
Suck a lifesaver today, put a fireman in your mouth.
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From: M ****rley Chong <eit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004
Subject: Re: OT Big dog problem. Serious help needed
Katharine H. wrote:
> He does pretty well in his "walking gear" -- which is what the
> prong and leash are. When I put the prong collar and leash
> on, he still shows other aggression behaviors to new men in
> the house but does not lunge (because he doesn't tighten his
> leash on the prong.) I think he does pretty well with the leash
> behaviors (given he's got a run-of-the-mill owner-type).
What other sorts of behaviours does he show?
> He is mostly fine when we are off the property. He still must
> stay leashed, but the only people he shows aggression to are
> fly fisherman (something about the gear freaks him out) and
> other dogs. Other people he basically ignores. My biggest
> issue are other dog owners whose dogs are off leash and
> want to come up and say hello. My beast will play well
> with a dog who submits, but will fight with one who doesn't.
I have a solution for that one. When some clueless idjit
allows their dog to come up to mine, I call over sweetly
"don't worry, the vet doesn't think he's infectious anymore."
A carryover from my years showing horses when idjits leading
a horse down the aisle of a barn would let their horse poke
it's head into my horse's stall. I'd grab a bottle of Ring-Ex
(ringworm medication) and start spritzing ostentatiously. And
mention that my vet thought we had the infestation cleared up.
I never mentioned that the bottle was full of plain water. <G>
If I'm not in a nice mood, I just scare the bejeebers out
of the oncoming dog to send it away. When they say "but
he's friendly" I say "well, I'm not." My dogs never have
to defend themselves on leash. I think they sort of enjoy
seeing me chase other dogs away, there's a certain smugness
in the way they lean against me while looking at the other dog.
> Bottom line though... this dog is killing my *** life because
> I can't introduce men into the house and I've been in the mood
> for men the past several months.
>
> I don't know what the hell I'm doing, so I've called a local
> trainer and she's going to teach me how to more effectively
> deal with the beast before I figure it's time to enter a monastary :-)
>
> This dog is so docile with me... the contrast in behaviors is amazing.
Nooooo, not the monastary! Your scene re****ts are
incredibly good and would be a loss to pervkind.
****rley
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From: M ****rley Chong <eit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 02:38:40 -0500
Subject: Re: OT Big dog problem. Serious help needed
I'm piggybacking from Nicole Diver:
> Katharine H. writes: "This is my new tactic -- my 3 yr old
> rottie/lab mix has become *extremely* aggressive when
> new people, in particular men, come onto his territory. All
> people who are coming to my home for the first time are
> warned to expect aggression. They are then given the option
> of dealing with the dog or not. If the new guests are not "dog
> people" I will make the choice for them and the dog will stay
> in the backyard while I have people over.
>
> If they do want to make friends with the dog, then the dog
> goes on a leash and prong collar when they enter the house.
>
> When I let them in, he is snarling, lunging, etc. As soon as
> the treats come out it's a whole new ballgame. The pup sits
> and wags his tail and is ready to make friends.
> It generally takes time for him to warm up to new men."
Katherine, I have nothing against the use of prong collars
and recommend them when I feel it is appropriate. Just like
any tool, there are situations when a prong collar is the best
tool for a job and there situations where a prong collar is the
worst tool for a job.
Prong collars do tend to magnify a dog's aggressive tendencies.
If the dog is at all inclined to bite unreasonably, the prong
collar will often send it right over the edge.
<snip BD/SM and proceed directly to MURDER>
Re: homer bit me :(
"elegy" <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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ago and far away, Mary Healey <mhhea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> did say:
>elegy <el...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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>> i'm really disappointed in myself, because i wigged out on
>> him for it, I'm not sure you should be. Maybe it's because
>> I'm used to dogs that'll keep pu****ng barriers just to find
>> the limits (if any), but the bottom line is that Homer did
>> something completely unacceptable (for whatever good
>> and justified reason) and discovered that, yes, there is an
>> upper boundary beyond which his new human gets a bit
>> testy.
> That's a good thing for a dog of any age to learn.
i worry that he reacted out of fear
and i gave him more reason to fear.
luce is a huge barrier-pusher. i've wigged out
on her a few times, too, and that i don't think
was necessarily a bad thing. but with this guy,
because he's kinda timid and i think kinda
fearful, i feel bad about.
>> i put him in his crate until i calmed down enough to not
>> do anything else stupid.
>
> Well, see, you learned something valuable. Homer learned
> something valuable. It's all good. Neither of you will need
> to repeat this particular lesson. I hope so, anyway.
i put a harness on him and he seems much more
comfortable with having that held. he simply
cannot be handle-less until he learns things like
come, stay, and to go in his crate.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
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> i really recommend you find a good trainer
Oh, like HOWE you done for your own fear
aggressive DEAD "RESCUE" dog Homer?
> who is familiar with desensitization and dog-aggression,
Oh, you mean LIKE THIS:
Homer 1994 - 03.01.2007"
brothers and sisters i bid you beware
of giving your heart to a dog to tear
i put homer to sleep yesterday.
it was quite possibly the hardest thing i've ever done.
monday night i was trying to teach him to down using a
food lure. he wasn't getting it, so i put a hand on him to
try to encourage him to down. he attacked me, biting me
twice on the hand, and then when i stood up and backed
away, he came after me more and bit me on the leg as well.
i was shocked and devestated and a hundred other things.
i ended up emailing my trainer (who has turned out to be a
very kind friend) and she called me and i spent an hour on
the phone with her crying. she doesn't deal with aggression
cases, but she listened to me and talked me down. i hardly
slept that night.
tuesday i took homer in to work with me and had the vet
feel his neck. i didn't think it was a reaction due to pain
but i had to check it out. the vet put his hands on the sides
of homer's head and manipulated his head around. homer
didn't show any signs of pain or discomfort. he went
through the motions some more.
homer flipped out, with no warning, extremely violently. it
took him a long time (it felt like a lifetime. it was probably
around 3 minutes) to calm down enough that the vet could
take his hands off of homer without anybody getting hurt.
i went home for lunch and called a behaviorist. i spent a lot
of the day reading the brenda aloff aggression book and the
karen overall behavior book.
that night the behaviorist called me and i told her what had
happened and she asked questions and i answered them as
best i could.
she gave him a pretty poor prognosis.
everything that she said made sense to me, and nothing
she said was earth-shattering or even really anything
that i didn't already know.
this morning i took him in and held him close and cried into
his fur and told him how much i love him and let him go.
he was a dangerous dog. he bit unpredictably and with no
warning. he was a love, a snugglebug, a sweet sweet dog
as long as you didn't do anything he didn't want done. but
if you tried to "make" him do something he didn't want to
do, all bets were off. his reaction could be a snap or it could
be an over-the-top meltdown.
i couldn't live with a dog like that.
i *will not* live with a dog like that.
i've spent the last three days crying my eyes out. i never
imagined i could get that attached to a dog who i had for
all of 12 days and who bit me several times during those
12 days.
but i was. i loved him.
i loved him ferociously, but i had to let him go.
for his sake.
for my sake.
for the sake of luce and mushroom.
i feel horrible. heartbroken. guilty. angry.
and yet i don't regret him, not for one moment,
despite how things turned out.
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i'm sorry, but human aggression is a deal-breaker, especially
unpredictable, unwarned human-aggression. there is too much
at stake and too much to lose.
Posted by e @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
03/26/2007 06:49 AM EST
You were just as unpredictable to Homer.
Shame on you for giving him only 12 days.
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HOWEDY marcel the imbecile idiot imbecile liar phd FRAUD
dog an child abusin punk thug coward active acute chronic
life long incurable malignant mental case whoremongerin
***UAL SADIST, aka MACK DADDY <{}: ~ ) >
"Marcel Beaudoin" <marcel.beaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "Cj" <C...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote news:u4GdnVW37qrw2franZ2dnUVZ_tqtnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>> Never read past the ****? An idea is never responsible for those
>> who hold it and you guys miss a lot of ideas because you're too
>> busy dumping on people.
Not really. marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog an child abuser
is too busy DEFENDIN HURTIN DOGS to discuss trainin.
> But the person holding the idea is reponsible for his/her behaviour.
INDEEDY. Yet you won't ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY
for your own dog's behavior problems <{}: ~ ( >
> And if his/her behaviour causes people to automatically
> dismiss the idea because it is from the person, than it is
> the fault of the person, not the readers.
You'll do an say ANY THING to DEFEND your alleged
RIGHT to jerk choke bribe crate intimidate and surgically
***ually mutilate innocent defenseless dumb critters and
LIE abHOWET IT <{}: ~ ( >
LIKE THIS:
Wednesday, May 09, 2007
Moogli on the other hand, is skating on very
thin ice with Gen and I at the moment. For
no apparant reason yesterday that I know of
(I was at work, it happened when Gen was
with Emilie just before taking her to daycare)
when Emilie was walking by Moogli, something
she had done several times before that morning
alone, he bit her. In the face.
Gen informed him in no uncertain terms that this
Was Not Allowed, and he spent the rest of the day
hiding in his cage.
I love Moogli to death, but the choice between
him or Emilie is not a difficult one to make.
Marcel
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BWEEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
AND THIS:
"Marcel Beaudoin" <marcel.beaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> shelly <she...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
> news:4ppnqtFjugssU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Marcel Beaudoin wrote:
>>> Aren't prong collars supposed to provide self-correction to the dog??
>>> When they pull, it provides some discomfort, when they stop, it
>>> stops. Isn't giving a correction with a prong collar wrong??
>> Not necessarily. It depends on how the collar is being used. If
>> it's being used to curb pulling on lead, then allowing the dog to
>> self-correct is generally the recommended advice. A prong collar
>> can also be used by the handler to apply a physical correction.
> Ahhh, thanks!!
Hey marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser
coward mental case phd psychoclHOWEN?
HOWE abHOWET The Amazing Puppy Wizard drops your
name, marcel the imbecile idiot liar dog abuser mental case
phd psychoclHOWEN?:
YOU WROTE:
> Earlier this week, while I was occupied, Moogli grabbed
> something and ran into the bedroom. When Gen went to
> grab it from him, he growled and bit her on the knuckle. :(
Say "ADIOS, Gen..."
> She freaked out, crying.
INDEEDY.
> Needless to say, he swallowed whatever it waws that he stole.
Yeah...
> I also figured out why he bit her.
Cause you've ABUSED HIM, marcel.
> After talking with her, I discovered that, preeviously, when
> she was taking something from him, if he growled, she would
> swat him.
SEE? SEE?? SEE???
Subject: Re: GL vs. Prong
Date: 2002-12-23 11:14:11 PST
"Mudbunny" <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
A.K.A marcel the clown mbeaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrotein message news:ea2dcca7.0212231102.510e9db7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, time to add my 2 cents (Canadian, so about half
a cent american) worth. When I first started looking into
getting a dog, I wandered out on the net and found info
on a prong collar, and when I looked at it, it looked like
this HORRID thing designed to hurt dogs.
Then, I saw on some show (don't remember which)
info on choke-collars vs. prong collars. The host
actually put one of each on HIMSELF and tried it.
HE found that the choke collar did what it was designed
to do, choke the living daylights out of whoever has it on.
The prong collar on the other hand provided even
pressure all the way around the neck, and he could
take a lot harder of a pull before it got really uncomfortable.
Marcel Beaudoin
And THAT'S HOWE COME DOGS GO INSANE.
Thank you Mudbunny. Now we know HOWE COME we
got lying dog abusing Thug Cowards hurting dogs
and believing they're not hurtin them...
LIKE THIS:
Dogs aggress on children BECAUSE of their owner's efforts
to TRAIN them, as DEMONSTRATED in the thread: "I don't
THINK I need to worry":
From: Marcel Beaudoin <mbeaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 15 Sep 2005 14:47:08 GMT
Subject: Re: I don't THINK I need to worry....
"White Monkey" <k.m.c.oo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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> Thus I think instead of worrying about this or
> trying harder to limit dog/baby/chew-thing
> encounters, I should just keep an eye on things.
> What are you folks' takes on this?
I am in the same situation.
When Emilie was born, Moogli wouldn't go near her unless
she was asleep and not moving. He was absolutely terrified
of her and wouldn't come within 5 feet of her.
Pulling him closer resulted in the lean-away and much
struggling. He has gotten a lot better in that he will
sniff her quite a bit if she is sleeping or not looking
at him, but he is still wary of her.
(She, OTOH, is in love with him. If he is moving,
the rest of us might as well not exist)
Right now, Gen and I are going with the idea that
any interaction Moogli has with her is good. He is
pretty much a food whore, so we are putting treats
by her and getting him to take them, petting him
with he hands when he is relly calm, that sort of
thing.
Personally, we are just making sure that Moogli isn't
pushed (too much or too fast) in his interactions with
Emilie. If he is chewing on a rawhide or something, we
try to keep her grabby hands away from him.
If he is playing with something on the other hand, we
will take it, put it by her and get him to come and
take it.
He has growled at her once or twice, but Moogli talks
by growling, so it wasn't a worry. He has also snapped
at her once, but that was because she had gotten a really
good grab (as only babies can do) of his tail and yanked,
hard. He would snap at me if I did that as well.
--
Marcel and Moogli
http://mudbunny.blogspot.com/
Local: Tues,Dec 31 2002 11:29 am
Subject: Re: Weekend update (With Marcel and Moogli)
"I think the best thing to do is to let him run and
scream, eventualkly he will learn that they will not
kill him. I will be close and let him hide behind me
if necessary, but I won't pick him up. I will also
ask the trainer to keep a close eye on him when they
play." Marcel C. Beaudoin
From: Marcel Beaudoin
Date: Mon, Feb 17 2003 2:16 pm
Email: Marcel Beaudoin <mbeaud...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Lee DeRaud <lee.der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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> I'll bet the *other* three times are well worth the
> price of admission, at least to a third-party observer.
> Lee
To me, it is kinda scary. We have become kinda used to
Moogli wandering around on the couch (except when he
decides that the best place to watch TV is from my chest,
in front of my head) so often the only warning I get of a
successful attempt is seeing him chewing on something,
taking it away from him, and giving it back to Gen.
Unsuccessful attempts are notified by screams of OW!!OW!!OW!!
I have been told that this situation is not funny.
Not one bit.
--
Marcel Beaudoin
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