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Re: Tips to Stop Dog Barking in a Gentle Humane Way for a Peaceful Life

by "Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborator Nov 14, 2008 at 12:21 PM

HOWEDY Ashley,

"ashley ross" <oeiwfcpksnbq@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:97503cbf-4f74-436e-b6db-7cc8ec88f064@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 THING you believe abHOWET dogs and their
behavior is DEAD WRONG, accordin to the SCIENCE
of BEHAVIOR as presented in The Sincerely Incredibly
 Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing, Majestic Grand Master
Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Goat, Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES,
And Horsey Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
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> Dog barking is an indication that they want to tell their owners
> something, communicate with other fellow dogs, or express an
> emotion.

Barkin is a SYMPTOM of SUMPTHIN WRONG, Ashley <{}: ~ ( >

> All of you must have noticed that the pattern and style of
> dog barking is different when he wants food or when he is
> playing with other dogs or when in company of a stranger.

Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS product which I ENDORSE??:

From: walter_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Drydem)
Date: 19 Apr 2003 09:38:54 -0700

Subject: Dog Translator Takara Bowlingual

Dog Translator Takara Bowlingual
-------------------------------- 
Takara Co. Ltd. has made a electronic dog
vocalization translator called "Bowlingual."
The device which looks like a FRS transmitter [0]
picks up the dogs vocalizations through
an 8cm microphone (36 grams) attached to the
dog's collar. Bowlingual attempts to recognizes
six feelings from a canine vocalization:
frustration, alarm, self-expression, happiness,
sadness, and desire. The canine translator software
which was developed by Index Corp[2] claims 90 percent
translation accuracy.  The device translates canine
vocalizations into two ways (1) by directly translating
a bark into a word from its 200 word dictionary and
(2) by storing and then analyzing the dogs vocalization
history from the dog's journal or the dog's mood
scale for the day. Depending on the translation
the device will display on its LCD a icon and sentence
verbalizing the dog's vocalization into phrases like:

"I can't stand it"
"how boring"
"I'm arf-ully lonely Please Play with me more"
"I am sad. I want to play"
"I am super angry. I am going to explode!"

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> Unfortunately for dog lovers, we can only guess
> the hidden meaning of their barking behavior.

That's ABSURD,IRRELEVANT, and DEAD WRONG, Ashley <{}: ~ ( >

> However, with a little observation and patience we can
> understand the communication and interaction style of
> a barking dog in case of dealing with humans.

When a dog BARKS it means he NEEDS ATTENTION
on accHOWENTA there's SUMPTHIN WRONG, Ashley.

> This does not mean that barking at any time
> and every time is allowed.

Sez WHO, Ashley?

> If a puppy realizes that his barking always gets his master's attention,

It'd be CRUEL an INHUMANE to IGNORE a barkin dog, Ashley.

> resulting in getting him the object he barked at,
> he will soon be barking all time.

That's ABSURD, IRRELEVANT, INSANE,
and DEAD WRONG, Ashley <{}: ~ ( >

>  In fact there are high chances that he will learn to bark
>  intensely and alarmingly to get an instant response.

NO, Ashley; "there are high chances that he will" GO INSANE
if his barking is IGNORED or REPRESSED by HURTING
and INTIMIDATIN IT, for barkin <{}: ~ ( >

> You must train your dog against such indiscriminate barking.

INDEEDY~!

> The first method is to patiently wait till he gets quieted down.

You mean IGNORE the barkin dog, Ashley?

> Give him what he wants only after he is quiet.

You mean REWARD the BAD BEHAVIOR, Ashley??

> This will make him understand that barking won't get him anything....

AND THAT will make IT GO INSANE, Ashley <{}: ~ ( >

You can EXXXTINGUISH barkin NEARLY INSTANTLY
simply by DOIN EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY
OPPOSITE of HOWE you PREFER <{}: ~ ( >

                    LIKE THIS:

"Estel J. Hines" <ejhi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:w86dna9lBfNZgbTdRVn-hA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Until i read the Jerry method of Bark
 reduction, it went something like this
 with our 11 month old puppy "Yo****"

 Yo****: Bark, bark,

 us: HUSH You****

 Yo**** Bark, bark...........

 us: Hush You****

 Yo**** BARK, BARK, BARK,

 it stopped when Yo**** got tired barking
 We decided to try the Jerry method:

 Yo****: BARK, BARK

 US: GOOD Yo****, Good Boy, who is it?

 Yo**** Bark, Bark

 US: It's ok, good boy Yo****, We know them.
 Yosh without fail, now stops after we say that.

 I must say, it is so much more fun, when we
 can praise him, to deal with things like this.
 Thanks Jerry

 ps: We are just starting to go thru the Jerry
 Papers, and learn how to live with our son
 "Yo****", whom we love very much. --
 Best Regards,

Estel J. Hines

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"Brandy Kurtz" <KraftyKur...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:2f66e35d.0407302331.1f18b8c6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Well I just printed out the Amazing Puppy
 Wizard info, so I haven't actually started
 to train yet.

 Today a salesman knocked on the door,
 and Pokey was going balisstic. I calmly
 go to the window to see who it is, and
 off-handly say Good Boy, It's a stranger,
 Good Boy.

 Pokey shut right up, gave me a quizical look,
 and came and sat beside my feet!

 OMG, I could not believe it!

I was totally floored, as this has been his
 behavior since a pup. Just wanted to update,
 and Pokey and I are hitting the sack...;)

 Brandy

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From: lucyaa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 25 May 2005 12:34:27 -0700
Subject: Re: Should I take the 'Puppy Wizard' seriously?

And yet, I can tell you from first hand experience that
this claim is justified (except the part about "sitting
****d", for which we have to take The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
word) in the case of two dogs who are living half the world
away from him - MY two dogs.

For instance, he told me exactly what to do when Bonnie was
barking with excitement as someone she loved was arriving,
and his advice worked... like magic!

Also, his advice about how to deal with her fear of thunder
was the ONLY thing that could calm her down.

Lucy.

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Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:06 AM

Hello.

I never posted here (or anywhere) before.
I never trained or owned a dog before this
year.

I downloaded the Wit's End, read it, corresponded
with Mr. Howe and trained my dog to come and to
stop barking in a weekend.

Our dog, Jake, had been treated with kindness the
whole time we had him, about 10 months, but his
earlier life is unknown.

I worked on the hot-cold exercise for about 30
minutes when he suddenly "got it". After that
he came to me every time with no hesitation.

I used the cans filled with pennies to teach him
not to bark. If he now starts to bark, I go to the
door or window, say "Good Boy, its' alright" and
he usually calms down right away.

A couple of times I had to get the cans
out again to reinforce the behavior.

We feel a strong bond with this animal
and he is very eager to accept our love.

So with all the vitriolic spewing going on,
I have to believe Mr. Howe is right.

His method worked for us.

I don't know if it would have been quite
as effective if we had tried another method first.

Florence

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From: "Marisa" <mari...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002

Subject: one day

I started some of the simple techniques in
Jerrys manual today.

The family pack exercise.... come command.....
that's all so far though.

I did get the proper equipment as well.
20 foot leash, cans with pennies partially
crushed, flat collar, etc.

I have also stopped any negative reinforcment
such as loud "No" and "Bad girl Sonique!"
(Sonique is my Jack russell) and holding her
back, which I normally MUST do or she'll jump
and nip sometimes, but always jumping and barking.

Already tonight some has started working.
When someone came to the door, Sonique
went nuts as usual.

I said "Thank you Sonique!"
"It's o.k. girl, thank you!"

And we got a total of about 6 barks and then
no jumping on guests, no biting, growling
or the worst, the continued barking she
normally does.

She accepted my praise, and trooted around,
still excited over guests, but she was WAY
more under control.

Even my roomates noticed this.

She repeated this same thing
without all her normal fuss later
when another two friends came over.

So I do need more time, going to keep with it
another day, another month whatever until I
know I am getting results, although I must say,
so far I am impressed with my dog.

She really responds to praise better than
she ever has responded to treats as distraction
from the guests and doorbell, or me yelling
"bad girl! go away now! shoosh up!" all the time.

I am also verbally praising her everytime
she makes eye contact with me. so hopefully
things will continue going well!-

- Marisa

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               HERE'S HOWE COME:

"melisande" <melisand...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:rLo08.751$0H.535937@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > I haven't quite finished reading the free chapter on your website,

It's moore than a chapter, it's a comprehensive,
total, complete, gestalt method to train all animals
to any level you desire.

 > but it already worked miracles with our three dogs.

Excellent.

 > The barking at the door has diminished so much that,
 > well, frankly, we're stunned.

My methods work faster than any others, anywhere at
any price, including the thirty five level of medical grade
static like stimulation devices and pronged spiked pinch
choke collars our "experts" here love so much.

 > We were sort of on the same page with you to
 > begin with (no crates,  no choke chains).

Good. Crates aren't inherently bad, only the way they're
misused.

 > A lot of what you say reminds of my dad's techniques
 > (he's an 84 year old dog lover,one of those about whom
 > people say, "dogs really like him." He's never had a
 > badly behaved dog.

Good. I've got a lot in common with folks who are gentle
and treat animals kindly.

 > We'd never heard of the noise emphasis,

You mean the sound distraction and praise techniques.

 > but the overall plan makes great sense.

Yes, one of my students Paul B wrote an excellent post
recently I'll include it at the bottom. It'll explain
HOWE the distraction and praise process works from his
POV as an experience handler using my methods.

 > I did have a question.  The hardest part for us
 > to implement is the verbal praise only.

Why? That should be spontaneous and in association
with every glance towards you and every thought.

 > It's so hard not to pet and stroke the dog (especially
 > our seven month old).

Oh. Patting is O.K., only not in conjunction with a
thought or command, as it will interrupt the thought
process and may lock the dog's thoughts on an
inappropriate idea.

 > Can you give me the rationale behind that?

It's called positive thigmotaxis, the opposition reflex.
Like if we're walking our dog and want to prevent him
from interacting with another dog, and we pull back
on the collar, that often triggers the dog to go out of
control.

As long as there's contact on the collar, the dog will
continue his original thoughts about interacting with
the passerby. Then because the dog is out of control,
the handler needs to further force restraint, making
communication with the dog's MIND, impossible.

 > It will help me modify my own behavior.

Any time your dog is close enough to be patted is
fine to pat him, as long as we're not working with a
command or thought we want him to process.

 > Anyway, your approach is amazing.

Yes, it's caused quite a stir here. If my methods are as
effective and fast and safe as I claim and my students
confirm, that pretty much means that all of my critics
are DEAD WRONG, and all's that's left  for me to
do is shovel some dirt over them over and let 'em push
up daisies.

 > Melisande

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From: Paul B (pand...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Can packleader influence rank?
Date: 2002-02-25 00:51:48 PST

I use sound to distract the dog and praise it
immediately. The reason for the immediate
praise is that as soon as the dog is distracted
it's no longer thinking of the inappropriate
behaviour so the praise reinforces the "not
doing" the unwanted behaviour.

I use various sound sources, a soda can
with stones in it, car keys, Click my fingers,
etc. Varying the direction of the sound each
time is im****tant too, otherwise the dog may
begin to anticipate the sound and it will lose
it's effect, if the noise direction is random the
dog won't get too familiar with it and it will
remain an effective distraction.

Remember too that we aren't trying to scare
the bejesus outta the dog, simply breaking it's
train of thought while it's thinking of the unwanted
behaviour.

Sometimes you won't even see a reaction
but the dog will have been distracted fleetingly.
(Recently one of my dogs started habitually
licking my feet while I was watching TV, I clicked
my fingers on her left side and told her "good girl"
even though she only paused her licking briefly,
next I clicked over her right side and praised, by
about the 4th repeat she suddenly stopped, I
repeated this over a few nights and now she
doesn't lick any more, on the few occasions she
absent mindedly licks now all I do is click and
praise and she immediately stops).

Timing is im****tant too, learn to anticipate
when the dog is thinking about doing the
"dirty deed" and distract and praise then,
with any luck the dog will try again almost
immediately so distract and praise again,
if the timing is correct after about the 4th
rep the dog will stop.

I could go on but this post is long enough
already, remember too that the dog isn't
being a "bad dog", it's behaviour is simply
inappropriate for the cir***stances.

Happy training, :-)

Paul

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"JoeTheGuru" <joetheg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote in
message
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....__END_MASK_i?a63jfAD$z__@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 SAVE THIS LAD!!!!

or it could be a troll <are you a troll??
do not use it on your dog.....

would you use it on your best friend.....

I have read jerry's book, it seems too easy at first.
however I started to use some of the training out of
it and now.

I have a dog that heels as fast as a collie in a
trial.<great dane X mastiff

I have a dog that stays and never leaves the spot.

I have a dog that comes when ever I call.

I have a dog that never leaves the yard, never runs
away.

I have a dog that stands still to be washed
with the cold hose.

I have a dog that never pulls on
the lead when we walk.

I have a dog that puts up with more abuse then a
dog should from my 2 year old <and loves it

I have a dog that barks at the fence only when some
ones there.

I have a dog that would not care less if there is
another dog in the park <only wants to be with and
please me though a lot of this is due to me training
the dog <spending the time with the dog.

jerry's book showed me not to punish the dog. but
just to work with the dog. which I liked the idea of
hence why I tried it. it is easy to become
frustrated with a dog when you are trying to train
them.

I look forward to my next puppy <ban dog so
I can use the information from jerry's book
and see just how good a dog can get.

the dog I have now was when I picked her up from the
RSPCA. she could not walk on a lead <no idea. cowered
from every noise <and wet her self, messed in the
house at every turn. acted like I was killing her
when I dragged her over to the mess.

this was A 6 month old pup that had been beaten <2.5
feet to the shoulder. I could of taken her back
however I knew I could bring her back to being to be a dog.

the dog I have now at 1.5 years <same dog is a dog
to be proud to walk down the street with <3 feet to
the shoulder and still growing.

so well behaved even when people walk passed with a
out of control dog. gentle with my child and trust
worthy < I never have to worry that my dog
will bite her, only have to worry if a stranger
comes over to my child. still that is not a worry
she places herself between my child and the
stranger

I may be plugging jerry's book, however with the
crap out there it is good to see that someone has
moved forward. looked at a different way to train
dogs. yes he gets into people, and in their face <
you should back off a little jerry however he is
sick of the ba****ng, choking, shocking, shaking and
everything else. so jerry save this lad from ruining
his dog. later, Joe

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From: Marshall Dermer (der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Jerry's Dog Training Manual
Date: 2001-07-10 13:34:38 PST

In article <HRI27.3908$187.184...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

 "Jenn" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> Hi Lynn,
> I used to have a barking problem with my
> German Shepherd Dog a couple of years ago.
> I tried several things recommended to me by
> different trainers, and nothing was working.
> When I read that section of Jerry's Manual,
> I thought the same way you did.

> "What???? PRAISE her for barking?" It sounded
> counterproductive, but I had tried everything else
> I'd heard so I thought I'd try it too.

> Next time she went nuts at a person walking by
> outside, I told her, "Good job! Good girl! You are
> such a good protector!" And instead of continuing
> the barking, she came to me for a belly rub! She
> will still bark (she's a guard dog, that's her job),
> but after one bark, she knows she's done her job
> to warn me by my praise, and she stops.

> Jenn,

Could you be so kind as to post here the
section from Jerry's manual where he
writes that you should JUST praise the
dog when it barks?????????

 As I recall, I thought he first advocates
 distracting the dog from barking, with
 keys or the soft sound of pennies in a
 can, before praising.

 Perhaps you can tutor me regarding
 Jerry's system.

 Thanks in advance!

 --Marshall Dermer

PS: I don't read Jerry's posts but I look
forward to your post.

From: Marshall Dermer (der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Clicker training "stay"
Date: 2001-06-21 20:25:38 PST

In article <iqtY6.5456$rA2.1119...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

"Jenn" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:
> Hi, DogStar716, sorry you feel this way about
> me. I hope I can change your mind in the future,
> as I love reading your posts, and value (and
> have used) some of your advice.

BWWWWWEEEJAJAJAJAJAJAAAAA!!!

> As for my post to Jer, I am just attempting
> to get a plain answer about something instead
> of a trash- fest. I just want to know if it can be
> done.
> Jenn Standring

I'm not Jerry but sure you could use a clicker to
distract a dog but that is not the purpose of a clicker.

You can also use a teaspoon to cut steak but that
is not the purpose of teaspoon!

--Marshall

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   professor of ANAL-ytic behavior, marshall dermers'
   swan song post to The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
   100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
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    "We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
    Come To Their Senses And Sup****t Your Valuable Work.
    God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
    Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard

Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts
to alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and sup****t your valuable work.

Have you thought of establi****ng a nonprofit
charity to fund your im****tant work?

Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic
Puppy Wizard.

I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer

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alpha.bob© <alpha.bob©  2008-11-01 12:19:29 
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