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Re: Myths and truth

by "Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborator Nov 13, 2008 at 09:19 AM

HOWEDY chardonnay9,

THANK YOU for doin a FINE job IDENTIFYING,
EXXXPOSING and DISCREDITING the lyin animal
murderin MENTAL CASES who post their LIES IDIOCY
INSANITY and ABUSE here abHOWETS and WELCOME
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You'll likeWIZE find ETHICAL nutrition and heelth
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"chardonnay9" <chardonnay9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:F5KdnZi2uMRLcIfUnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Myth: THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH TO BACK
> RAW DIETS.

That "scientific research" is necessary to substantiate the FACT
that a NORMAL NATURAL diet is heelthful, is ABSURD.

> "You know, the very powerful and the very stupid have one
> thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They
alter 
> the facts to fit the views, which can be uncomfortable
> if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering."
> — Dr. Who

CORRECTO~!

Take a LOOK at the POSTED CASE HISTORIES of the
Gang Of Pathetic Miserable Stinkin Rotten Lyin Animal
Murderin Punk Thug Coward Active Acute Chronic Life-
Long INCURABLE MALIGNANT MALICIHOWES
MENTAL CASES who argue the FACTS as you an I have
presented them... that's ALL you gotta do <{}: ~ ) >

> http://rawfed.com/myths/research.html
>
> The implication here is that because there is "no scientific research" 
> performed by institutions like the American Veterinary Medicine 
> Association (AVMA), raw diets should not be fed. This 'no scientific 
> research' declaration is a cop-out claim that has been used to "debunk" 
> raw diets and suppress the truth.

If the TRUTH were known, the veterinary community
would LOSE 90% of their BUSINESS and the lives of
those innocent defenseless dumb critters they ABUSE
and MOLEST with their imbecilic, idiotic TOXIC SCAM
 medicine would improve NEARLY INSTANTLY.

> But one must realize that there is NO evidence whatsoever
> to prove that kibbled, processed foods are good for your pets.

ALL commercial dog food is GARBAGE:

http://www.iamscruelty.com/iams-video.asp

These pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal murderin mental
cases DENY the EVIDENCE and try to SELL you their brand
of poison on accHOWENTA "MISERY LOVES COMPANY":


HIP DYSPLASIA simply is a lack of absorbable VITAMIN
C in your dogs diet. Almost all dogs in the U. S . are raised on
commercial dog food-with NO NATURAL VITAMIN C.

"True, the manufacturers add ascorbic acid, but this chemical
form of Vitamin C just isn't good enough. Your dog MUST get
Vitamin C in his diet on a daily basis from a natural source,
like fresh vegetables or RAW MILK or Vitamin C made from
 a VEGETABLE SOURCE"

Recent research from Purdue SEZ that ascorbic acid added
to dog food INCREASES the chances of GVD (bloat, gastric
torsion) by 320%.

Here's the RESEARCH article from Purdue:
http://www.vet.purdue.edu/epi/dietrisk.htm


steve crane aka gaubster (his secret alias) is the NUTRITIONIST /
SALESMAN for Science Diet Dog Foods International <{) : ~ )  >


Lolajoker ASKED steve to comment on the recent re****t from Purdue.


HE WON'T ADDRESS the ISSUE on accHOWENT of:
Science Diet PRESERVES THEIR DOG FOOD with...


(DRUMROLL, PLEASE, Mr. Maestro)...


 ***ASCORBIC ACID***

Ta Dah! RIMSHOT: BANG~!


(Thank you, Mr. Maestro!).


ADIOS, steve <{) : ~ )  >


                  ------------------- 


http://www.belfield.com/article5.html
:


Canine Hip Dysplasia (CHD),  a crippling disease of the coxofemoral
joint (hip), was first observed and re****ted in 1945 by the late Dr.
Gary Schnelle. Dr. Schnelle was the staff radiologist at Angels
Memorial Hospital at Boston, Massachusetts and re****ted his
observations in The North American Veterinarian Journal and termed
the condition "Congenital Coxofemoral Subluxation".


Though "congenital", by definition, means "existing at
birth but not hereditary", Schnelle theorized the cause
to be a recessive gene. Today, this condition is associated
with the large breeds of canines, however Schnelle's initial
observations were in the smaller breeds i.e., cocker spaniels,
terriers, etc..


During the 1960's, Dr. Wayne Riser, a veterinary pathologist,
collaborated with a geneticist and postulated the concept that
CHD was "polygenetic with environmental overtones" and during
this time frame, the term "Canine Hip Dysplasia" was born.


There has been a string of professionals who have perpetuated the
heredity theory even until the present. We have been encouraged to
breed selectively, alter, and in some cases, euthanize the afflicted
canines.


This is what the veterinary experts have been insisting the dog
breeders and fanciers do to prevent CHD for the past fifty-two
years.


Is it possible we have been on the wrong track for more
than a half century? One authority, of a veterinary teaching
institution in a personal correspondence to the author, admitted
the "experts" have failed to solve the CHD problem.


In 1976, The author published his observations ("Chronic Subclinical
Scurvy and Canine Hip Dysplasia") in his small animal practice through
the administration of vitamin C to prevent CHD. Whether this concept
has been accepted or not it has sparked controversy, and has some
veterinarians re*****sing the archaic heredity theory. There are two
unanswered relevant questions the "experts" have failed to answer to
prove the heredity theory.


Why are we so loathe to believe the idea today that so many
of our killers today such as cancer and heart disease can
be prevented by getting enough of the substances found in
fresh fruits and vegetables and other healthy foods?


Perhaps in the past we had the excuse of a lack of evidence,
but today that dodge is no longer an acceptable excuse for
neglecting healthy practices. And Dr. Packer points out that
a healthy diet is not nearly enough, we need to supplement
our modern diets to get the optimum amounts of these antioxidants.


Dr. Packer explains that of the hundreds of known antioxidants
there are five which seem to be the most im****tant, and which
operate as a network, meaning that they help balance and recycle
each other. Cells are essentially filled with water surrounded
by a fatty wall, so both fat and water soluble varieties are
im****tant.


Two of the network antioxidants are water soluble (vitamin C
and glutathione), two are fat soluble (vitamin E and CoQ10),
and one (lipoic acid) is both fat and water soluble. The
im****tance of this latter team member has only been known in
the last decade. It may be the most im****tant of all and most
daily supplement manufacturers don't even include it.


Here's another EXXXCELLENT study on dysplasia and
vitamin C: http://www.workingdogs.com/doc0039.htm


PRA, like CHD (Canine Hip Dysplasia, a vitamin C deficiency
like scurvy) is a metabolic / nutritional defect and SHOULD
NOT PRESENT as a clinical problem anyMOORE NHOWE
that we KNOW ALL abHOWET IT:


http://www.guidedogs.org.uk/fileadmin/gdba/images/downloads/CPRAisnta...


Central Progressive Retinal Atrophy - isn't anymore June 1999


The most exciting outcome of this work is that the supplementation of
vitamin E to the dog's diet can maintain the blood levels at
sufficiently high values to stop the disease in its tracks.


What has been established is that in dogs which developed this
disease, there is a defect present in the metabolism pathway of
vitamin E.  In the clinically affected breeds we studied, the
serum levels of vitamin E are usually lower than normal and this
means that there is less vitamin E available to the retina.


                    -------------------- 

> The only research that has been done into processed foods was performed
to 
> see a) if dogs could be fed a grain-based food, b)
> if dogs could survive acceptably on these processed foods for a
> short period of time, c) if X brand of food can do such-and-such for the

> dog (help with kidney disease, help with diabetes, help with obesity),
and 
> d) if X brand of food is "better" (more palatable,
> better liked, less total stool volume, etc.) than Y brand of food. No 
> research has been done to determine the long-term effects of feeding 
> kibble, nor to determine if it is actually healthy for your
> dog (it is just assumed healthy because it has passed a 6 month feeding 
> trial, and then manufacturers falsely advertise their product
> as healthy.).

That's for SHORE~!

That these MENTAL CASES are still replying to you sez
to ME that your arguments are WEAK, otherWIZE they'd
KILLFILE YOU, just like HOWE they done ME~!

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK and STUDY your own
FREE COPY of The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely
Simply Amazing, Majestic Grand Master Puppy, Child,
*****, Birdy, Goat, Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES, And
Horsey Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End
Training  Method Manual until your arguments are
incontrovertible and you too, are KILLFILED;

THAT'S the measure of SUCCESS WON should strive for <{}; ~ ) >

Here's a few more SCAMS pu****trated on us by the
veterinary MALPRACTICE industry:

From: "Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"

Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:45:48 -0400

Local: Tues, Jul 1 2008 8:45 am
Subject: Re: These shots are due in June: dist, hep, parvo, corona, and 
lepto

HOWEDY sharon aka sharon too, veterinary malpractice
office manager, mrs. veterinary malpracticioner, animal
abuser, lyin FRAUD, SCAM ARTIST and animal murderin
mental case,


"Sharon Too" <askformya...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message


news:5N6dnZl3K--Gx_TVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Can we safely wait until mid-July or late July for our beloved 8 lb.
toy 
>> poodle?  She is in excellent health and exercises every day.

> Absolutely.



And they can probably wait till heel freezes over pryor to
needin another vaccination, wouldn't you agree, sharon too,
mrs. veterinary malpracticioner, veterinary malpractice office
manager, lyin animal murderin FRAUD SCAM ARTIST and
CHRONIC LIFE-LONG INCURABLE Malignant MaliciHOWES
MENTAL CASE <{}: ~ ( >

HOWEDY sharon aka sharon too, veterinary malpractice
 office manager, mrs. veterinary malpracticioner, animal
abuser, lyin FRAUD, SCAM ARTIST and animal murderin
 mental case,



Sharon wrote:
> > I have recently moved out of town and into a more rural lakeside 
> > neighborhood. FrontLine has always worked well for my dog, but since 
> > relocating out here, FL doesn't really seem touch the problem.
> > Any healthy  alternatives? She's a 14-year old dachshund and I don't 
> > want to use anything  too harsh on the old girl.

> Ocassionally folks who see a sudden bust of fleas while on Frontline

You mean when your veterinary malpracticioner toxin FAILS, sharon?


> see better results with Advantage/Advantix and visa versa.


Can we BUY those systemic toxins from HOWER own veterinary
malpracticioner, sharon aka sharon too, veterinary malpractice
office manager, mrs. veterinary malpracticioner, DESPITE the
POSTED CASE HISTORIES of those SYSTEMIC POISONHOWES
veterinary toxins MURDERIN innocent defenseless dumb critters
JUST LIKE YOUR OWN ADVICE to MURDER that innocent
defenseless Opossum RESCUED by a concerned kittty kat when
the nice man wrote in lookin for ADVICE as to HOWE to SAVE
 the critter separated from his mommy, sharon aka sharon too, mrs.
 veterinary malpracticioner, veterinary malpractice office manager,
liar, animal abuser, coward, fraud, scam artist and life long incurable
malignant maliciHOWES mental case?

   From The Annals Of Human And Animal Behavior Forensic Sciences
                               Research Laboratory


Subject:        EMERGENCY!! What to do with baby Possum?


From:           Sharon
Date:           Tues, May 16 2006 11:30 pm
Email:          "Sharon" <askformya...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Groups:                 alt.med.veterinary, rec.animals.wildlife, rec.pets



> My cat brought in a baby possum tonight. It is pretty small -- about
twice 
> the size of a chipmunk -- but its eyes are open, so it's not a newborn.
It 
> really looks just like a miniature adult. It seems to be in pretty good 
> shape, considering I snapped it from the jaws of death. It can climb
> and scamper around pretty well - no obvious wounds.
> My question is, should I just release it into the woods behind my
> house tonight? I don't know if it will be okay, or if it still needs its

> parents.

> I could certainly feed it for a few days if necessary, but I'm just not 
> sure what would be best (or if it would even accept food from me while
in 
> captivity).

Don't touch wildlife at all. They carry parasites and other organisms.

You should release it back into the woods, but if your
scent is on it, the mother (if she finds it) may reject it.


Your only other alternative is to look up a local wildlife
rehabilitator.


HOWEDY Fred,



Fred Mann wrote:
> Hello, My cat brought in a baby possum tonight.


That was kindly of him! You got yourself a RESCUE kat!


> It is pretty small -- about twice the size of a chipmunk - - but its
eyes 
> are open, so it's not a newborn.

Opossums should be ready for release at 20 to 22 weeks of age.


> It really looks just like a miniature adult. It seems to be in pretty
> good shape, considering I snapped it from the jaws of death.

Thanks to your kat RESCUING him! GOOD JOB! Give your
kitty kat a nice tuna treat or play with him with a feather or
sumpthin, for that good deed!


> It can climb and scamper around pretty well - no obvious wounds.


Good!


> My question is, should I just release it into the woods behind my house 
> tonight?

You'll first have to get a guesstimate of his age.


> I don't know if it will be okay, or if it still needs its parents.


8 - 13 weeks - Eyes open, teeth present but still small. Thicker
fur developing with guard hairs beginning to emerge by 13 weeks.
Body LESS THAN 6 inches long EXXXCLUDING TAIL <{); ~ ) >

"Opossums should be ready for release at 20 to 22 weeks of age."


Looks like you'll have him for a while...



> I could certainly feed it for a few days if necessary,


Or a few weeks if you don't want to MURDER him as sharon
aka sharon too, veterinary malpractice office manager and
Mrs. veterinary malpracticioner and animal murderin MENTAL
CASE advises you to do to the LUCKY critter <{); ~ ) >


> but I'm just not sure what would be best (or if it would even accept
food 
> from me while in captivity).

If he's young enough he'll have no fear and will eat.


> Any advice would be much appreciated.


Here's EVERYTHING you gotta know EXXXCEPT the warnings
abHOWET possible rabies etc that sharon was kindly enough
to insufficiently warn you abHOWET, stuff like IF HE DIES
SUDDENTLY or bites you and escape better get yourself AND
rescue kitty kat to the HOWEspital or get his body to the state
laboratory for rabies testing.

Care and feeding: http://www.awrc.org/Baby%20Opossums.htm



> Thanks,


Not so fast, you can TRAIN him JUST LIKE a dog or kitty:

WELCOME To The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard's
 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
 FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Forums.

I'm Jerry Howe, The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ )  >


Here's your own FREE COPY of The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy
Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual <{) : ~ }  >


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> Fred Mann

Thank you for not following sharon too's uncaring
self centered idiotic animal murderin advice <{); ~ ) >

        The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{); ~ ) >


But that ain't all, sharon aka sharon too, veterinary malpractice
office manager, mrs. veterinary malpracticioner, animal abuser,
lyin fraud and animal murderin mental case:

HOWEDY sharon aka sharon too,



Sharon wrote:
> > I have a 13 year old Maltese. I just had him shaved and realized that 
> > his body temperature seems hotter than my other dog. Is this something

> > to be concerned about? What could be the cause. There is nothing 
> > different about his behavior?

> A normal dog's temp is higher than ours. If he doesn't seem ill, I 
> wouldn't worry. If it bothers you enough, take him to the vet for an
exam.


You mean instead of just taking his temp himself?
Normal for dogs is 101.5 - 102.5, if I'm not mistaken,
being a non professional veterainary malpracticioner.


> > Plus he is not neutered.


Surgical ***ual mutilation causes health and temperament problems.


> > I heard that I should go ahead and get him neutered avoid possible 
> > testicular cancer.


That's a WIZE idea. Might as well remove his eyes
so he don't get catarcts in his old age.


> > Is this true?


It's INSANE! The dog stands a GREATER RISK of
DYING from this insane mutilation than cancer.
Cancers are CAUSED by STRESS and toxic environment.


> Yes.


The veterinary malpractice business must be
suffering terribly in these bear market times,
eh sharon too, veterinary office manager, Mrs.
veterinarian?.

You're nothing but a FRAUD a LIAR and animal abuser.


HOWEDY Lucy,



lucyaa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> Sharon too wrote:
> > > Jerry, is there any particular section that addresses this?


We was talkin abHOWET breakin obsessive compulsive behaviors.


> > >  I'm laughing picturing a friend to come over and throw a can near
me 
> > > on the second and fourth command 'That's a good girl, Robin, 
> > > CONCENTRATE!' LOL.


While that WOULD work, the operator wouldn't know WHEN
the brain is begining to drift into OCD mode. The best
practice would be to do some anchoring and triggering
visulization techniqes.


> > This is obviously a request for a two person conversation.


We was also talkin abHOWET CURING separation anXXXIHOWESNESS NEARLY 
INSTANTLY, as
Robin and Lucy BOTH RE****TED they DONE
when applying The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Surrogate
 Toy / Bed Time Calming / Submissive Urination / Fear
 Of Thunder / Car Sickness Technique <{); ~ ) >


> Her post is on topic: discussing dog behavior in a dog behavior forum.


SHAAAZZZAAAMMM?

Perhaps sharon too is CONCERNED that The Amazing Puppy
Wizard is recommending NON PHYSICAL scientific and
psychological conditioning techniques INSTEAD of sendin
HOWER readers to their vetrinarian to BUY anti psychotic
medications and run THOWESANDS of dollars in inapupriate
unnecessary tests...


Fully 90% of the veterinary heelth care industry is SELF PERPETUATING
NEEDLESS TESTING and BOGUS TREATMENTS CAUSED BY the
irresponsible handing and training ADVICE given by their veterinary pet


malpracticioner professionals.



> Obviously anyone can read and respond to it -


You AIN'T gonna see these EXXXPERTS reply to The Amazing
Puppy Wizard on accHOWENT of HE QUOTES their lies and
abuses and IDENTIFIES EXXXPOSES and DISCREDITS them right
off the bat.


>  more like a cocktail party than a two person private conversation.


Belly up to the bar, folks, it's all on the HOWES today.


> > Since 99.999% of the people who post here have had or
> > have been witness to negative posts, hurtful posts

Yeah. Thems the QUOTES The Amazing Puppy relies on to
DISCREDIT these lying dog abusing punk thug coward
mental cases.


> But not one single negative or hurtful remark in the stuff Robin
> has replied to. Not to mention the fact that the persons who choose
> to POST here don't OWN the group and certainly have no say in what those

> of us who choose to READ what's posted are entitled to read.

The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ these MENTAL CASES can
post here all they LIKE, despite that they'll be IDENTIFIED
EXXXPOSED and DISCREDITED with EVERY POST they
make... but THAT'S JUST HOWE IT IS when there's a BULLY
 in the playgrHOWEND.


> > and plain unprofessional posts by this self professed professional,


Yeah...


> You mean, unlike the other self professed professionals who are posting 
> here and whom we're expected to believe "because they say so"?


sharon too SEZ you shouldn't BELIEVE The Amazing Puppy Wizard.


> Those who cannot cope with the problems their own dogs have?


sharon too MAKES MONEY off of misadvising folks to
surgically ***ually mutilate bribe choke crate shock
and spray aversives in their dog's faces...


> > it would be to your advantage to exchange private e-mails with him.
Your 
> > private discussion with him here will benefit
> > no one.

> It probably won't benefit those whose gut reaction is stronger than
their 
> reason, but it's a bit far fetched to assume that you're speaking
> for EVERYBODY.

Well, not EVERY WON PROFITS from HURTING INTIMIDATING
and MURDERING dogs like HOWER veterinary pet professionals.


>  Besides, you do have the option of not listening to
> a discussion that doesn't interest you -

sharon too's FUTURE is vested in NOT BELIEVING The
Amazing Puppy Wizard. IMAGINE if APUPRIATE handling
and training as NOT taught by HOWER pet professionals
CURED 90% of the veterinary practicioner's BUSINESS?

THEY'D END UP IN THE SOUP LINE.



> just as those of us who are interested


Interested in CURING ALL temperament and behaivor
problems as well as 90% of their vetrinary medical
EXXXPENSES, to boot.

THAT'S what got sharon too all bent HOWETA shape, Lucy.



> have the right to follow their dialogue, if we choose to do so.


Stick arHOWEND, Lucy. The Amazing Puppy Wizard is
fixing to address the LITTLE PROBLEM we got for
HOWER SAR dogs NOT FINDING the victims in the most
fameHOWES searches in history...


> Lucy


          The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{); ~ ) >
 




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Re: Myths and truth
"Human_And_Animal_Be  2008-11-13 09:19:33 
Re: Myths and truth
"Human_And_Animal_Be  2008-11-14 08:07:27 
Re: Myths and truth
"Human_And_Animal_Be  2008-11-14 08:33:08 
Re: Myths and truth
"Human_And_Animal_Be  2008-11-14 09:01:09 
Re: Myths and truth
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