HOWEDY Dick,
I'm postin my reply to Funky Foots directly to you so's
there's NO WAY NO HOWE you'll overlook it <{}: ~ ) >
ONLY liars dog abusers cowards and active acute chronic
life-long INCURABLE malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL
CASES post their LIES IDIOCY INSANITY and ABUSE
here abHOWETS <{}: ~ ( >
"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>
> Dick Muldoon wrote:
>
> [snipped]
>
> Hi, Dick -
>
> Your site is really cute, but can I ask a favor? Please don't
> cross-post. It's a good way to get yourself killfiled. In fact,
> quite a few folks automatically killfile posts that are
> cross-posted.
>
> FurPaw
Here's FunkyFoot's an her own dead an deathly ill dogs
gettin anti psychotic medications for similar problems:
HOWEDY funky foots you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
rotten animal abusin punk thug coward active accute chronic
life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES mental case,
"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> elegy wrote:
>> 4 hours to the minute (12:29, 4:29) later. only lasted about 15
>> seconds, and he recovered much more quickly. he's been whiney
>> ever since, but otherwise seems ok.
>
>> i'm sick to my stomach.
>>
>> i don't like this at all.
>
> I hope your vets can find an answer.
> Dylan started having seizures a couple of years before she died;
Naaaah?
> they were brought under control with phenobarbital.
Of curse. Seizures are caused by STRESS from abuse <{}: ~ ( >
> Sending lots of good thoughts for Harv and you.
WHAAAAAT, NO PREYERS?
> FurPaw
HOWEDY funky foots you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
animal abusin punk thug coward active accute chronic life
long incurable malignant mental case,
"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> tiny dancer wrote:
>> "FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:Ff-dneRhgtzSm17anZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> tiny dancer wrote:
>>>
>> snipped>
>>> For example, SSRIs, particularly Paxil, are used to treat
>>> Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, which is classified as
>>> an anxiety disorder.
>
>>> And they do have the 'side effect' of reducing anxiety.
>
>> Yes, I understand that, just as something like xanax does
>> have a bit of an anti depressive quality to it.
>
> Then why did you say, "I'm curious as to the designation
> of an SSRI as an 'anti-anxiety' drug though."
>
>>>> Something like xanax or klonipen? I thought those were occasionally
>>>> used on dogs for 'short term' treatments for things such as behavior
>>>> modification? I also 'thought' they had fewer negative
side-effects.
>
>>> Depends on what you consider to be a negative side effect.
>>> Both have their share.
>
>> Yes, they do. I was thinking along the lines of the more severe side
>> effects, something like tardive dyskinesia and liver metabolization as
>> opposed to the milder, dry mouth, nausea or abdominal distress, etc.
>
> Tardive dyskinesia? The rate of this in humans is extremely low with
> SSRIs, much, much lower than it is with antipsychotics, and in some
> re****ts it's not clear that it wasn't a pre-existing condition or a
result
> of a combination of drugs.
>
> Liver metabolization isn't a side effect - it's what the
> liver does to drugs (and many other substances).
>
> FurPaw
furpaw:
(SSRI, cognitive therapy)
otherwise, a fairly boring
and nondescript crazy person
Your own dogs have had EVERY STRESS INDUCED AUTO-
IMMUNE DIS-EASE a.k.a. The Puppy Wizards' Syndrome, in
creation. You coulda bought an paid for a full service commercial
kennel with the bucks you've WASTED on incompetent veterinary
malpractice care!
THAT MAKES YOU A EXXXPERT!
HERE'S PROOF!:
HOWEDY funkyfoots,
Add these to your posted case history of DIS-EASES
aka The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome caused by jerking
and choking your dogs:
"I'm out more than $5,000 in the past year because I
have one dog who developed a heart condition and
another one who required surgery for laryngeal paralysis
and went blind in one eye, reason unknown; in addition
to the surgery, a lot of diagnostic tests were required for
each one."
BWEEEEAAAAHAAAHAAA!!!
> but I also think I'd take her to a different vet, maybe even an internal
> medicine specialist if one is available to you. Has your vet done any
> blood work to look for liver failure, or anything else?
Yeah. His vet's been treatin her for 9 years, funkyfoots.
> Did she examine a stool sample?
AS STATED, you pathetic moron.
> Is there any sign of blood (either red or dark & tarry-
> looking) or mucus in the stool?
AS STATED, you pathetic moron.
> Two things raise a red flag for me: One is her weight loss
> despite being fed larger ****tions, especially if it was rapid
Naaaah?
> (how long did it take for her to lose 10 lb?). The second
> is her evident pain when she has a bowel movement.
Naaah? Hey funky foots? We DON'T KNOW if it's
PAIN or ANXXXIHOWESNESS that's causin the
whining when she ****S. Evidently the dog DON'T
WHINE when IT ****S in their HOWES <{}:~ ( >
> As others have pointed out,
You mean the OTHER MENTAL CASES, funky foots?
> that could be due to arthritis or hip dysplasia,
That's curiHOWES. There AIN'T NO OTHER CASE
HISTORY DATA SUP****TING THAT IDIOCY.
> but would that account for the weight loss or the softer
> stools at the end of her bowel movement?
Of curse not. HOWEver, ANXXXIHOWESNESS WOULD.
> I hope you find an answer for your girl soon.
LikeWIZE.
> FurPaw
LIKE THIS:
"FurPaw" <furrealpaw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Charlotte wrote:
>> I`m feeling very bad that I`ve beaten her. But there really was
>> no way I could have found some reliable source as in my country,
>> animal rights and training isn`t an issue people care about...
>
>> But I want to be one of the few who care.
> Good for you!
That's curiHOWES comin from the likes of you
AIN'T IT, funkyfoots? Your own dogs have been
sufferin an DYIN from your own SHEER IDIOCY
and inability to train them. Perhaps you should tell
Charlott abHOWET your own DEAD DOG who
DIED from anaphylaxis from eatin a bag of granola
that he STOLE and your other SUCCESS stories
like DESTROYIN your HOWES till they're two
years old an gettin CANCER from STRESS from
your ABUSIVE TRAININ and garbage commercial
diet and toxic veterinary treatments?
> What country to you live in?
That's IRRELEVENT funkyfoots. The Sincerely
Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing
Grand Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Goat, Ferret,
Monkey, SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard trains
dogs ALL OVER the WHOWEL WILD WORLD <{) ; ~ ) >
> This web site has links to many articles about dog behavior, problems,
> training. http://www.dogplay.com/Behavior/index.html
No, THAT'S Master Of Deception blankman, a other
pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal murderin punk
thug coward active accute chronic life long incurable
mental case like yourself. She don't post her lies abuse
and IDIOCY here abHOWETS nodoGdameneDMOORE.
> How old is she?
That's IRRELEVENT you simply amazingly
incredible animal murderin IDIOT.
> Make sure she gets lots and lots of exercise,
That's ABSURD you freakin simpleton. Dogs DO
NOT HAVE behavior problems on accHOWENTA
lack of EXXXCESSIVE EXXXORCISE they have
temperament and behavior problems on accHOWENTA
ABUSE like you and your punk thug coward mental
case pal Master Of Deception blankman recommend:
Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At
UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive
Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.
Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific
Management Of Doggys. <{) ; ~ ) >
> via walking and play.
BWEEEAAAAHAHAAAA!!!
> Tired dogs are much less likely to get into trouble.
That's SHEER IDIOCY you freakin MENTAL CASE.
> Try to anticipate her "bad" behavior, so that you
> can intervene and prevent it;
That's INSANE.
> then reward her immediately with praise or a treat
> for doing something "good" -
THAT REINFORCES BAD BEHAVIOR:
"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
(Azrin et al, 1966)."
> such as sitting down.
THAT will teach the dog to HATE bein trained:
"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) re****t a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are re****ted to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS
were moved to a delayed contingency the behavior and
learning immediately deteriorated."
> If she is afraid of you because you have beat her, it
> will take a lot of patience to win back her trust.
THAT'S BUNK.
> Be kind and gentle with her, don't raise your voice,
You mean unless you're tellin IT "NO!"?
> give her lots of little treats, try to entice her to play
> and have fun with you.
THAT'S INSANE. You CAN'T BRIBE love
trust and RESPECT you pathetic MENTAL
CASE.
> Just like human babies, puppies require a lot of
> your time and supervision.
Yeah, if you don't know HOWE to pupperly
handle an train them they're LOTS of REALLY
REALLY REALLY HARD WORK <{}: ~ ( >
> It took you several years to learn how to behave; puppies
> don't even take as long as humans, but they still require a
> lot of effort.
Yeah, when you BRIBE CRATE and INTIMIDATE
them and AVOID trainin op****tunities and give them
LOTS an LOTS of EXXXORCISE to CON-TROLL
their hyperactive behaviors.
> And using rewards, train her to sit, lie down, stay, walk
> on a leash, heel, come when called.
THAT'S HOWE COME THEY'RE REALLY
REALLY REALLY HARD TO TRAIN.
> This site talks about using a clicker to help with the training.
BWEEEAAAHAHAAAAA!!!
Master Of Deception blankman and lying
frosty dahl EXXXPERIMENTED with
clicker training to SUBVERT The Sincerely
Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing
Grand Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Goat,
Ferett, Monkey And Horsey Wizard's 100%
CONSISTENTLY NEARLY INSTANTLY
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End
Training Method <{) ; ~ ) >
THEY FAILED to successfully CLICKER TRAIN
their own dogs. See "Clicker Project FIZZLES":
Message 1 in thread
From: Amy Dahl (a...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Clicker retriever project fizzles
Date: 1999/06/19
Thanks to all who gave advice before. I figure I owe
you an update, but in some ways the news is not good.
Although I learned some really useful things from
the reading material that was suggested, somewhere
between the personality of the student and the manner
in which I applied the material, we didn't get too far
with the clicker stuff.
Basically although I kept the sessions shorter (fewer
repetitions/rewards than the 50-80 recomended by my
various sources), Rosie seemed to get bored. I went
from dry kibble to soaked kibble to pupperoni to hot
dogs in the attempt to keep her motivated.
As I said before she learned left-side walking in about
one session but I abandoned it. Then I worked on
targeting and on "speak." Rosie did well at both until
I tried to reward only when I used the cue.
I went back to giving the cue and rewarding every time.
Still, though, she'd get about two or three hot dogs then
grab either the target stick or something else to carry
around, or go over to the picnic table with the pile of
retrieving dummies and look meaningfully at them.
My suspicion is that this outcome is more a consequence
of Rosie's nature than my application of the method. I
have always been very good at reading and following
directions (and I had videos, too).
She, however, is bred from a long line of die-hard
retrievers who were selected, not only for their love
of retrieving, but for their potential to be trained
effectively by "show-'em- and-make-'em" methods.
Amy Dahl
BWEEEAAAHAAAA!!!
Here's the deal on clicker trainin:
From: "Dr. Von" <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 12 Sep 2005 10:52:19 -0700
Subject: Re: Clicker Training for Dogs Newsgroups?
> Jen "artbylucy" <artbyl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:OMudnRS23OLEc7zenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Hello, Does anyone know of a dedicated newsgroup for
> > positive-only dog training, in particular clicker training?
>
> > Thanks, Lucy
Jen wrote:
> I would love to know of one as well. If there was enough people
> interested maybe we could start one. I've just started clicker training
my
> dog and have been doing the positive training for a while now. I think
> it's great!!
Jen, your request for a positive only dog training list,
needs the same answer as I give the folk who ask why I
don't have a list for what I do with biofeedback.
The method is so simple, and if you adopt it and relate
to your dog in such a positive manner you won't have any
more problems and there is no need for any more technique.
With Puppies we Ph.D. psychologists have been outflanked
by the entirely practical and effective methods described
in http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u.
Free download, nothing
sold, no mailing list, no distribution of your name. Free
sup****t if needed.
With ADHD kids I provide similar information at
www.drbiofeedback.com and there is no need for
a list dealing with problems with kids. Apply
as directed and have happy healthy doggies or
kiddies.
Not difficult.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
P.S. jerk and choke, spanking, shocking, scruff shake,
choke, chin chucks, all those negatives, denial of
affection etc. are harmful, dranging, obscenities.
You might want to consider Pavlov's typology to
understand "hard and soft dogs" - essentially he
taught that there are outward and inward responding
organisms in weak and strong nervous systems and if
you grasp this firmly you'll shape your training
methods effectively.
Punishment ALWAYS deranges behavior, and so is
recommended and given only by deranged humans.
Of course, it doesn't matter if we are talking
dogs, cats, people, sheep, even husbands.
Dr. Von
---------------
gary wilcox of Massachusetts Institute of Technology
impressed professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer of
the ANAL-ytic behavior department Master's Degree
Program at UofWI with his DELAYED PUNISHMENT
methods to augment his clicker training FAILURES.
Clicker trainin RELIES on offering and witholding
BRIBES which INCREASES anxiety to dangerous
levels which the critter will likely to REFLEX to
when asked even years later, to do the commands
he was originally "trained" to do.
In the event of additional stress, such as when greeting
guests at the door or meetin a dog in the park or seein
a kat, may push the dog over the top and instigate an
accidental bite.
> It's full of good advice on training,
No it ain't, she's a liar and dog abuser and MENTAL
CASE, like yourself and your punk thug coward pals.
Clicker trainin ONLY works when the trainer can
CON-TROL ALL the food in the environment and
provided the critter is HUNGRY, therefore EXPERT
clicker trainers FEED THE ENTIRE DIET as part of
the clicker training program.
Here's your pathetic miserable stinkin lyin plagiarizing
punk thug coward mental case pal diane blankman on
CLICKER TRAININ:
From: black...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1999/12/07
Subject: Re: The e-collar debate on RPDB
Lynn Kosmakos <lkosma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
: Amy Dahl wrote:
:> Another reason that group hasn't flocked to clickers
:> might be that, as it appears to me looking at Morgan
:> Spector and Gary Wilkes, all-new methods needed to
:> be devised to teach the same old stuff. Retriever work
:> is so incredibly sophisticated that devising all-new
:> methods is a seriously daunting task.
: I think you're absolutely right. There's a corollary in
: the almost universal use of purely positive training
: techniques in agility, a newer s****t without a long-
: established body of work on how it "should" be done.
Hmmm, well "purely positive" is a bit of a mantra on
the agility training lists but I don't know very many
trainers who are successful and actually do "purely
positive."
In my observation it is mostly positive training, a
modest amount of negative punishment (withdrawing
of something the dog wants to correct unwanted
behavior) and most trainers do judiciously use positive
punishment although less frequently and in a much
milder form than is common in other dog s****ts.
Corrections are very common even in agility. For
example, if the dog self releases from a contact zone
the typical response is to correct the dog by picking
it up and re-placing it on the contact zone.
: I'm not familiar with Spector's or Wilkes' work in
: field training, but I've seen some real problems when
: people try to apply new techniques to areas they don't
: actively participate in. Both Gary Wilkes and
: Clothier/Rice have written and lectured on training
: a SAR alert and mantrailing, respectively. Neither
: work is respected by people who actually do those
: things, because it is simply incomplete and inadequate.
: It seems that people need to have some experience
: with the full training program before they can
: understand it well enough to redesign parts of it.
The biggest disappointment I had in that clicker class
I took was that the instructor, a SAR particiapant, did
not demonstrate the strengths of the clicker for particular
SAR related tasks such as scent work.
The sad thing was is that she failed to "sell" the
technique based on its strengths and thus lost the
op****tunity to broaden the horizons of the participants.
I don't know what the problem was, except that likely
she may be a fine trainer but an inadequate teacher.
Diane Blackman
d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.dog-play.com
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAA!!
Here's YOU MURDERIN your own HOWESkat:
From: FurPaw (furpawn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: OT:urk..cat poop
Newsgroups: alt.sup****t.menopause
Date: 2002-07-03 16:23:10 PST
<snip>
yecchh! Now, why was he demanding
that YOU clean it up?
Once I had a housemate who acquired a
stray cat while I was on vacation. Before
I knew about the cat, when I walked into the
bedroom that we shared, I thought, "Damn,
Sarah must not have done laundry for WEEKS!"
Shortly after that, I spotted the cat.
Further investigation revealed that the damned
cat had been sh*tting in my SHOES. Not Sarah's
shoes. MINE.
Not too smart of that cat, particularly since I'm
allergic and he was treading on thin ice in that
domain already. He clinched it a couple of days
later when I was carrying him out of the bedroom
(now forbidden territory), and the dog (big white
Shepherd mix) came trotting around the corner.
Cat freaked, clawed and bit me.
Sorry, but that kitty had to go to the animal shelter
the next day. (I would have had the same reaction
if the dog had bit me.)
FurPaw
-
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA!!!
That's not the only critter you've murdered.
> and you don't even have to use a clicker, just another sound,
> like clucking your tongue, to immediately reward the behavior
> you want to see.
The clicker method relies on OFFERING and
WITHOWELDING BRIBES till the critter
throw MINDLESS MEANINGLESS UNTHINKING
behaviors to RELEASE the REWARD from the
human Skinner Box <{}: ~ ( >
IT FAILS 10% of the time GUARANTEED,
even when done by EXXXPERT clicker trainers.
ASK karen pryor, she MURDERED her own
DEAD KAT when she COULDN'T clicker
train IT not to **** an piss in her stove top.
> Keep your training sessions short, follow them with play,
> and above all, have fun with your puppy!
You're a IMBECILE.
> http://www.clickertraining.com/
Oh, THAT'S karen pryor's website! You
might wanna ask gary wilcox of M.I.T.
HOWE COME he had to resort to DELAYED
PUNISHMENT when his clicker trainin FAILED?
AND you MIGHT wanna ASK HER HOWE COME
she MURDERED HER OWN DEAD KAT when
SHE COULDN'T TRAIN IT <{}'; ~ ) >
> FurPaw
Here's your own funky POSTED CASE HISTORY:
"FurPaw" <> wrote in message
news:pMudnX0-CroQTdDcRVn-uQ@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LDRS News Glo wrote:
> > << From: "The Puppy Wizard" <<
BWEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!
> Medicate yourself, wimp-limp-wizard. You'll feel MUCH better.
> Killfile this guy and above all don't respond to him. Furpaw
furpaw:
(SSRI, cognitive therapy)
otherwise, a fairly boring
and nondescript crazy person
> His biggest thrill is getting a rise out of someone.
"FurPaw" <furrealpaw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:r_edndhNrs2Htz3YnZ2dnUVZ_rKvnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> elegy wrote:
>> or, you know, controlling the amount of food the dog gets.
>> mushroom would gladly weigh 500 pounds if i'd let him.
>> he's a boy who loves his food.
> We have two like that. Oppie, our yellow Lab, is an eating
> machine. He defines the term, "food motivated."
THAT'S on accHOWENTA he's INSECURE.
Dogs have the same eatin disorders as people
for the same reasons.
> And so is Chile, our chihuahua.
Naaaah?
> When she was about 3, our GSD, Dylan, was
> going through a finicky period.
Yeah. That was pryor to his POISON eatin stage.
> Chile duly observed this, and one day when Dylan didn't
> eat her breakfast, Chile did. We caught her just as she
> was licking the last molecules out of Dylan's bowl.
>
> Despite the look of utter bliss on her face, we thought
> she was going to explode!
> Chile has since told me that that was the only time in her life
> that she actually got enough to eat.
> Despite their complaints and doleful, waif-like, edge-of-starvation
> looks, we keep them where we can see the outlines of their ribs.
That's ABSURD.
> FurPaw
Here's HOWE COME your dogs
are "FOOD MOTIVATED":
Subject: Re: Why does my Retriever push his nose around
his food dish-does a little dance with his head
On 2006-12-29 11:07:10 -0500, "monkey" <kellieasp...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
said:
> Before and after eating my golden retriever pushes his food
> dishes with his nose-around it- as if he is doing a little dance.
> Does anyone know why this happens?? its really weird, it
> goes on for like 10-15 mins.. Any suggestions???
If it bothers you, take the food dish up. Have the dog sit
and wait for release before eating. If the dog wants to play
with the bowl, take the bowl up. Wait a while and try again.
I'd suggest that if the dog continues,
the dog might miss a meal.
If you're concerned about the dog not eating,
put the dog is a sit-stay, put some kibble on
the floor and release the dog to eat.
The simple answer is, "don't let the dog do that."
The dog has trained itself (and you) that this is
an acceptable ritual. If it is not acceptable, train
the dog to behave differently.
Does the dog only do this at your house?
In the regular feeding room? With you?
--
http://4dsgn.com
Subject: GSD people
From: YourDoggysMomma @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tues, Jul 19 2005 8:42 am
HOWEDY funky foots,
FurPaw wrote:
> Paula wrote:
> > So what are GSDs really like and why is it that some
> > of you have become addicted to them?
Kinda like HOWE funky foot's DEAD DOG Dylan
GOT ADDICTED to SEALING and EATING POISON.
> I've had one, Dylan. Where to begin?
Let's BEGIN with the day Dylan ATE POISON
and GOT DEAD on accHOWENT of you couldn't
train him NOT to STEAL STUFF and EAT POISON.
> She had a mind of her own,
That so, funky foots?
> was smart, loyal, demanding, funny.
AND DEAD.
> She adored kids and put up with a lot of their pulling and
> tugging. She was very gentle with our Chihuahuas and let
> them chase her. She roughhoused with our Lab until both
> were exhausted. She was an alpha,
BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAAA!!!
> and it took a couple of years of training to persuade
> her that she wasn't going to push me aside -
INDEED? Is THAT HOWE COME
she STOLE and ATE POISON?
> but with maturity she became a wonderful companion.
You mean DESPITE DYIN at 9 years from EATIN
STUFF SHE STOLE and of curse, overcoming multiple CANCERS?
> --
> "Don't believe everything that you think." -
> Seen on a bumper sticker
> To reply, unleash the dog
From: "The Amazing Puppy Wizard" <TheAmazingPuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 12 Feb 2005 13:18:27 -0800
Subject: Re: JE yadda yadda yadda
HOWEDY funky foots you ignorant cretin,
Thanks to dog lovers like you we got The Puppy
Wizard's SYNDROME where a "MILESTONE"
is a GSD livin till NINE YEARS OLD despite
his CANCERS and PHOBIAS and DEATHLY
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES.
Here's a few HAPPY posts from your
own miserable posted case history:
You're some kinda dog lover...
From: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:47:16 -0500
Subject: Re: White German Sheperd Problems
Hello furpaw,
"FurPaw" <furpawn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:3CA5CAF7.4050003@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> E. L. Ryan & Co wrote:
> > Scott Delibac <sdeli...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > news:3CA22A77.2E93C6C8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Im not sure where I failed, we have gone to training,
> >> and have tried for
>
> > This sounds all too familiar.
You mean you got the same problem, and are
willing to share what you've done to continue
the problem or changed your lifestyle to cope
with it.
> I second the training recommendation.
Of course! That's what helped you out sooo
much with your own problem dog. Or more
correctly, that's what CAUSED your problem
dog.
> And would add, give him a lot of exercise!
Yes, use excessive exercise to control out of
control behaviors cause you don't have effective
training methods.
> Your description fits our girl Dylan (not white, BTW) to a T.
Very interesting. White GSD's often have a
"genetic component" to their hyperactive behavior.
> We trained and trained and trained... several trainers, methods, lots
of
> time spent with her.
Yes, an excellent idea, furpaw. Tell us HOWE you
were taught to jerk and choke and confine and
intimidate and excessively exercise your dog every
day for years, to FORCE IT to do as you make IT.
> Some may say that the methods weren't effective or applied properly.
Wel, let's just DISCUSS what you did, and EVEN
YOU will be able to see and understand the insanity
of your so called training methods that caused the
problems you've dealt with UNSUCCESSFULLY.
> Could be - we were novices
No. Could be you relied on DISINFORMATION
from our lying dog abusing Thugs.
That's what COULD BE.
> when it came to training a very dominant dog.
What DOMINANT? That's BULL****. Dogs don't
have DOMINANCE issues unelss someone is
PROVOKING them. And then it's not dominance,
it's FEAR.
> We kept looking for nonpunitive methods that would
> get her under control.
BWWWAHAHAHAAA!!! You didn't FIND any, did you.
> Convincing her that she was NOT Alpha took a lot of work.
Yes, because you fought with, choked,
crated and intimidated her.
> By the time she was about three, she had turned into a real sweetheart.
There ya go! And your trainers TOLD you it might
take three years, instead of three days as in my methods.
> Getting a second big dog (male, nondominant, extremely
> playful) as a companion and playmate no doubt contributed.
Because your training methods DIDN'T help.
> Maturation no doubt contributed.
BECAUSE YOUR "TRAINING" METHODS DIDN'T WORK.
> And training certainly contributed, even though the results
> weren't always immediately obvious.
Ohhh, you said a mouthful. Using the lousy methods
you used caused other seemingly non related behavior
problems that you and your so called trainers aren't
bright enough to trace to the vicious methods you used,
RESULTING IN The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.
> FurPaw
What a DISMAL success story. GOOD LUCK.
From: FurPaw (furpawnews...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: dog ripping up cu****on
Date: 2003-05-16 07:58:16 PST
Clearly puni****ng your dog isn't working. And probably
never will. So I'd suggest you try a different tactic. You
don't have to yell and hit in order to get your dog to behave
well. But you may have to be a little more creative.
You've gotten him afraid of you+cu****on, but not afraid of
cu****on. So remove the cu****on, so that the temptation is
no longer there, until you can get other aspects of his behavior
working with you.
Does he have "interesting" toys to keep him occupied, like a
Kong stuffed with peanut butter, or a Hava-Ball filled with
treats for him to extract?
If your dog is only "good" when you're "not his friend"
it sound like you've managed to teach him to be afraid
of you.
If he's peeing when you're shouting, he's afraid of you.
That's submissive peeing.
Is that the relation****p you want with your dog?
How much time do you spend together? How much
exercise do you give him? How many hours a day is
he alone? It sounds to me like he may be bored;
our GSD was pretty destructive at that age until we
rearranged our schedule and spent more time playing
and exercising her.
Have you tried obedience training? Did you take your
dog to any cl***** to train both you and the dog?
Having an ongoing program of *positive* (no punishment)
training with your dog might go a long ways in improving
his behavior and your relation****p with him.
There are a lot of good books on training your dog out
there. I used and like Brian Kilcommons' "Good Owners,
Great Dogs", but there are others that are more recent
and that emphasize clicker training.
I'm not a dog trainer, so others will be along with
more specific suggestions for you.
FurPaw
From: FurPaw (furpawnews...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: de-lurking with puppy questions
Date: 2003-07-19 13:33:18 PST
Karlee in Kansas wrote:
> I've been reading here for a while (long enough to figure out the
> resident troll anyway) and have a few questions about my puppy
> I have an 7 month old Pomeranian puppy, adorable as all get out, but she
> won't play.
<snip>
Hi, Karlee -
Looks like your thread got hijacked :-(
I don't have a lot to contribute, except to say that some dogs
don't seem to have the play drive that others do. My male
chihuahua, Gordo, played with his sister as a puppy, but
wouldn't playwith us, except to fetch.
He's very submissive, and even the most gentle
approaches to play got him cowering. He and his
sister still play now and then (at age 12), but only
if they think no one is watching them.
Weird. He does like to chew on rawhide, however.
Is your dog's regular food kibble or soft food?
If you could induce her to eat a bit of kibble,
maybe that would be a start on the teeth problem.
She sounds like a sweetie!
FurPaw
From: ldrsnews...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(LDRS News Glo)
Date: 20 Sep 2004 02:05:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Boston Terrier "Humping"
<From: FurPaw
>
> Killfile this guy and above all don't respond to him. His
> biggest thrill is getting a rise out of someone.
>
> FurPaw
Gotcha, thanks. I just banned him from emailing
me too. Sheesh. Why is it that every news group
has to have at least one troll? Is it in the contract?
LOL Gloria
From: ldrsnews...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(LDRS News Glo)
Date: 19 Sep 2004 18:22:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Boston Terrier "Humping"
<< From: "Perry Templeton >>
<< But I would think the main thing would be,
>> especially in a male, neutered bs. not neutered.
I adopted JJ from Animal Care and Control, and he
was neutered about 3 weeks ago, a day before I got
him. I think that's part of the problem, he's still feeling
his "oats". It has tapered significantly around the house.
The problem now is taking him to the park. I hate it
when he starts humping the other dogs, especially the
small ones.
Most of the other dogs "tell him off", but he takes
it as a game and goes back. I'm sure it will stop
as he matures, I just thought someone would have
a suggestion for now when I take him to the park.
Thanks, Perry.
Gloria
From: flick <f...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:29:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Boston Terrier "Humping"
LDRS News Glo wrote:
> I adopted JJ from Animal Care and Control, and he was neutered
> about 3 weeks ago, a day before I got him. I think that's part of the
> problem, he's still feeling his "oats". It has tapered significantly
> around the house. The problem now is taking him to the park.
>
> I hate it when he starts humping the other dogs, especially the small
> ones. Most of the other dogs "tell him off", but he takes it as a game
and
> goes back. I'm sure it will stop as he matures, I just thought someone
> would have a suggestion for now when I take him to the park.
> Thanks, Perry.
It can take a couple-three months for the hormones to
completely leave his system after neutering, is what I
understand.
flick 100785
> Gloria
From: ldrsnews...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(LDRS News Glo) -
Date: 21 Sep 2004 01:29:49 GMT
Subject: Re: Boston Terrier "Humping"
<< From: flick f...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> It can take a couple-three months for the hormones to completely
>> leave his system after neutering, is what I understand.
Unfortunately, I believe you are correct. LOL I'm
certainly going to stick with the little fellow. He's
very playful and very funny. I've had Boston Terriers
since I was 15 and they're sooo funny. Pugs are
funny also. I'm constantly being entertained by them.
Thank you for responding.
Gloria
From: FurPaw <furpawnews...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 11:24:38 -0600
Subject: Re: Boston Terrier "Humping"
LDRS News Glo wrote:
> I wrote a few weeks ago about my problem with my new
> 10 month old Boston Terrier, who is now 11 months. The
> problem was he was "humping" my two Pugs. It's subsided
> a lot.He does, however, still try to do it to dogs at the park.
> I have him on a 15 ft. lead, so I can monitor his behavior.
>
> Is there any trick to making him stop this unacceptable behavior?
>
> Again, he's MUCH better at home.
>
> He gets a LOT more supervised time with the other Pugs
> and he's behaving for longer periods of time.
>
> The squirt bottle works wonders with him.
>
> I can tell he's going to be a great dog. I've had 3 Bostons
> in the past and I've never had this problem. JJ is larger
> than most Bostons, he's 28 lbs and will probaby get a
> little bit bigger, he'll fill out. He's handsome, he's extremely
> playful.
>
> If he were the only dog in the house, he'd be a wonderful little
> guy. I believe he's also trying to establish some "top dog" issues.
> One good thing is none of them fight, they're all GREAT
> dogs. Two Pugs and a Boston is a handful, but once JJ
> gets over this...um..."hump" he'll be great.
>
> Advice about the humping in the park would be much appreciated.
> Thanks. Gloria
I wish I had the answer, Gloria! I have an 8 year
old yellow lab who was neutered at 9 months,
and he is still Mr. Hormones!
Yesterday in the park we met up with a gorgeous
reddish-brown and tan mixed female (part lab, weim?,
something with pricked ears?). She was spayed and
a year old.
After the obligatory sniffs, she started to try
to entice him to play and body-slammed him
a couple of times. He started to try to hump
the little flirt - and not just the sideways air
humps that he tries on our GSD - he was
grabbing her around the waist.
I yanked him off and put him in a sit - several times.
But this shameless little hussy kept backing up to
him with her tail in sideways position - an invitation
if I've ever seen one!
Luckily, his owner thought this was all hilarious...
but we sure don't know what to do about Mr.
Hormones' behavior!
FurPaw
--
"In a sense, we are hallucinating all the time.
What we call normal vision is our selecting the
hallucination that best fits reality."
- V. S. Ramachandran
To reply, unleash the dog
From: "The Puppy Wizard"
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 18:07:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Boston Terrier "Humping"
HOWEDY funky foots,
"FurPaw" <furpawnews...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:47WdneMTJ_9EXdDcRVn-r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> LDRS News Glo wrote:
> > I wrote a few weeks ago about my problem with my new
> > 10 month old Boston Terrier, who is now 11 months.
And she's wrtiting AGAIN for THE SAME PROBLEM.
> > The problem was he was "humping" my two Pugs.
The PROBLEM is LDRS is a IMBECILE.
<snip idiocy>
> I wish I had the answer, Gloria!
You've NEVER had a "answer," funky foots.
IN FACT, your own dogs have had EVERY
behavior problem in creation.
> I have an 8 year old yellow lab who was neutered at 9
> months, and he is still Mr. Hormones!
Your dog is HYPERACTIVE on accHOWENT
of you're a DOG ABUSER, funky foots.
> Yesterday in the park we met up with a gorgeous reddish-
> brown and tan mixed female (part lab, weim?, something
> with pricked ears?). She was spayed and a year old. After
> the obligatory sniffs, she started to try to entice him to play
> and body-slammed him a couple of times. He started to try
> to hump the little flirt - and not just the sideways air humps
> that he tries on our GSD - he was grabbing her around the
> waist.
>
> I yanked him off and put him in a sit - several times.
Well THAT'S HOWE COME you can't TRAIN
your dog NOT to DO that, dog abuser.
> But this shameless little hussy kept backing up to him with
> her tail in sideways position - an invitation if I've ever seen one!
You've probably never had WON.
> Luckily, his owner thought this was all hilarious... but
> we sure don't know what to do about Mr. Hormones' behavior!
You're a MENTAL CASE, funky foots.
> FurPaw
Subject: Re: 8 month old misbehaving
Date: 2004-04-08 18:35:59 PST
HOWEDY funky foots,
Doesn't it ever EMBARRASS you that your own
dogs have had EVERY behavior problem in
creation cause you don't have the intellect to
HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dog?
"FurPaw" <furpawnews...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Vd-dnRI1eOKPNOjdRVn-hA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Bill F wrote:
> > Looking for more suggestions on how to appropriately
> > correct misbehaviors as well as moral sup****t.
>
> FWIW, our GSD, Dylan, was very destructive when
> she was a pup. When we were out of the house we
> kept her confined in a pen in a small room, with
> toys and chewies. One time when we came home
> she proudly presented us with the pieces of carpet
> that she'd ripped up (it was very old carpeting).
>
> She was around ten months old. And one time we
> tried confining Oppie (Lab) in the bathroom when
> we went out for a couple of hours.
>
> We returned to a door that was deeply
> gouged with his claw marks.
>
> He'd also tried to climb out the window (closed and
> locked) and bent up the aluminum miniblinds.
>
> Our mistake was that we hadn't adapted him
> to the bathroom.
>
> Stupid Mommy Dog!
> We took the tactic that other posters have suggested,
> that is, don't give the dogs the op****tunity to be
> destructive by confining them with interesting toys
> and not much else.
>
> Sometimes, despite your best efforts, they manage to
> destroy anyhow, but mostly they'll sleep. The good
> news was that both dogs were out of their destructive
> phase by the time they were about a year and a half old.
> Good luck with yours... FurPaw
NHOWE WHO'S THE TROLL, funky foots?
BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
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