HOWEDY matty, you pathetic miserable stinkin
lyin animal abusin punk thug coward active
acute chronic life long incurable mental case
and professional illegal doggy day care FRAUD
an SCAM ARTIST,
"Rocky" <3dogs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "SteveB" <toquerville@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said in
> rec.pets.dogs.health:
>
>> Sigh. I have an outside cat, and there
>> is no problem with the litter box, [...]
>
> But you wrote: "no one have the problem of their dogs eating
> their catbox nuggets?" It may have avoided a lot of apparently
> unwanted advice if you had stayed within your original thread.
THERE WASN'T NO doGdameneD "ADVICE" in the
ORIGINAL thread an there AIN'T NO doGdameneD
ADVICE in THIS thread, other than, of curse, to HURT
the dog like HOWE you RECOMMEND, matty <{}: ~ ( >
> Anyway, with an outdoor cat and outdoor dogs,
> management seems to be impossible -
That's curiHOWES, matty; "MANAGEMENT ALWAYS FAILS":
Re: Dog Whisperer Week on National Geographic
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006
"Handsome Jack Morrison" <handsomejackmorri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message news:i222d25gibj3sdv85pg8u370e4m4ap1v10@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
again, "****" happens.
It's possible to avoid "****" from happening altogether,
by never doing anything, but that doesn't help dogs very
much, does it?
But as some folks are wont to say: "Management
always fails."
It'll fail for you one day, too. And I bet it already
has, probably many times, in fact.
The more dogs you try to manage, the more
things you try to do, the more times it'll fail.
Because I've see too much "****" actually happen,
and know that it's impossible to totally prevent.
"****" has happened a number of times just today, at
my place, because someone simply forgot to do what
he was supposed to do. He's done it correctly, oh,
maybe a thousand times now, but today he didn't, and
"****" happened.
Actually, you should feel pretty good about the fact "
that he actually shows "****" happening on his show.
--------------
lying frosty dahl wrote:
"My behaviorist friend says, however, that "management
always fails." "my aggression-specialist friend has a maxim:
"management always fails."
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SEE?
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> that leaves training.
Ahhhh, you mean ROCKET SCIENCE, eh, matty??
> With such a high-reward activity,
Coprophagia is a OBSESSIVE / COMPULSIVE, STRESS
INDUCED activity, matty. It's CAUSED BY your ineffective inapupriate
malignant maliciHOWES abusive backwards
idiotic cruel OBEDIENCE TRAINING <{}: ~ ( >
> this seems like a very difficult training issue, though.
Yeah. UNLESS you're a ROCKET SCIENTIST, eh, matty??
I've got FIVE POSTED CASE HISTORIES of coprophagia
bein CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY simply by DOIN
EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE
of HOWE you an your pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active acute chronic life-
long INCURABLE malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL CASE
PALS PREFER <{}: ~ ( >
> Aversives (similar to those used in s****
> proofing) may be your only solution.
LIKE THAT, matty <{}: ~ ( >
You mean kinda like Homeopathy, matty?: Give a
dose of what CAUSED the PROBLEM to CURE IT?
HOWE COME you don't just "SHAPE" your
own dogs not to EAT ****, eh, matty?
LIKE THIS?:
HOWEDY matty,
Rocky wrote:
> Simon said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> > I have two dogs and my English Setter has been eating
> > feces, both his own as well as my other dog's feces. On
> > walks, he will eat other dog's feces as well.
>
> This is very common.
Yeah. It's a NEUROTIC behavior LEARNED from
bein PUNISHED for ****in in the HOWES, matty.
> All I can suggest is the following:
Your own dog GOT THE SAME PROBLEM, REMEMBER matty?
> Immediately pick up the poo in the areas over which you have control.
You mean, INSTEAD of just TRAINING the dog
NOT TO EAT **** in just a couple moments of
using brief variably alternating non physical
distractions instantly followed by PROLONGED
NON PHYSCIAL praise, matty?
> On walks, keep him on a leash and pay attention.
THAT NEVER WORKS, matty.
> Try a different food.
THAT'S INSANE, matty.
> For what it's worth,
What it's WORTH is NUTHIN. YOU GOT NO ADVICE.
Your own DEATHLY ILL DOG Rocky GOT THE SAME
PROBLEM on accHOWENT of you ABUSE him, matty.
What it's WORTH are DEATHLY ILL and DEAD DOGS, matty.
> no matter the reason he started eating poo,
You got NO METHOD to TRAIN the dog NOT TO DO IT, matty.
> he now likes it and it's become a habit you have to break.
You got any TRAININ suggestions, matty?
> You probably won't have to keep him on leash forever,
You think the dog will FORGET to eat poo when IT
can't be forced and jerked and choked not to do that
someMOORE?
> just until you've taught a good recall or a good "leave it."
HOWE is THAT gonna TRAIN the dog NOT TO EAT ****, matty?
> My Rocky was/is a poo eater,
SHAAAZZZAAAMMM?
> though now only when it's winter frozen or sun dried -
BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!
> both are avoidable situations.
HOWE, matty? HOWE do you AVOID FROZEN / DRIED ****, matty?
> As to watching your Setter on a 24/7 basis, of
> course that's not possible in most situations,
So you LOCK THE DOG IN A BOX, matty.
> but your *care* should be 24/7.
That so?
> That is, when he's not supervised, he should be in a
> situation where he can't do what you don't want him to do. --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
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From: Rocky <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 1 Jun 2007 16:28:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Giardia and pancreatitis
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"Judy" <doub...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said in rec.pets.dogs.health:
> They have Spenser on five days of Panacur. The package
> says normal treatment is three days. Do you remember how
> long the two straight courses were? Is that sort of what we
> are doing with Spenser?
IIRC, 10 days in total and with extreme supervision.
He's always been a poop eater so was a prime candidate
for reinfection.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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From: bonn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Rocky)
Date: 2000/01/03
Subject: Re: My dog eats her faeces !
lbon...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote in
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>
> Some people advocate adversion training. Seems the
> best thing is to do is to clean up the poop before the
> dog can get to it.
I agree. No matter what reason the dogs *starts* to eat poop,
after a while it seems to become nothing more than a habit.
When my younger dog did this, I tried many of the suggestions
mentioned in this thread and others - nothing worked. Finally,
I simply started picking up after both dogs immediately and kept
them inside when I wasn't at home. I'm now back to picking up
once a day, and my poo-eater now shows no interest in between
meal snacks.
--Matt
Subject: Re: Housetraining Question
"Tara" <notha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "Suja" <spana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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>> That's one approach, but calmly bringing him to a spot
>> that's found, and telling him it's very wrong, and taking
>> him outside immediately and praising the ground (teaching
>> him eliminate on command can help with this a LOT), can
>> be very effective. So many people are afraid to correct
>> after-the-fact that the dog never gets corrected for doing it!
>
> Never done it myself, and I will tell her.
Can't find the original post (ok....too lazy to look), but in my
experience, corrections after the fact, while not totally taboo for
those who have put in thte work and who have a clear approach
to them, can make mild coprophagia worse (dog tries to rid the
scene of evidence in order to avoid correction), if the dog was so
inclined to begin with.
I would hate to imagine what it would do to a committed
stool eater like this. Prevention is everything here, IMO.
>> *I* have done setups with an e-collar for poop
>> eating, and have found it to be extremely effective.
> That's what I was thinking.
> That a strong correction might be appropriate.
Having dealt with only a couple of stool eaters of this magnitude,
e-collars and incredible amounts of consistency have been the only
thing I personally have seen work.
I'll check with Phyllis to see if she's copme up with more creative
solutions though, as she's usually the one that ends up dealing with
the poop eaters.
I'd go ahead and try the broccoli and such anyway, though if
he's so obsessed with it that he's scouring for others' poop, the
I think the help will be minor.
Tara
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Re: Starting over
"Tara" <notha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>"Suja"
<spana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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> "Tara" <notha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message:
>> How has this dog's housebreaking issues been going?
>> Is he still pooping in the house?
>
> He went about 5 days without an accident, had one (foster's fault), and
> then has gone another couple without one. A little consistency goes a
> long way, I guess.
AWESOME!!!!!!
What finally did the trick on that one? Was it simply more
close supervision and getting him out more often?
> Was thinking about this dog the other day, wondering
> how he was adjusting. He is getting more mobile every
> day, appears to have lost a little weight, and is doing
> fine with the house training. For a while there, he was
> trying to bulldoze his way through baby gates to try to
> get to the other dogs' food, but seems to have calmed
> down about it a bit; at least he can be called off.
>
> The fosters' other dogs are seriously stressed about him,
> but that should get a little better over time. The poop eating
> is still a serious issue, and to be perfectly honest, I don't see
> any change WRT that behavior.
Glad he's getting better physically.
No, obsessive coprophagia isn't usually something that gets better
without some *serious* aversives. Which is sad. I'm glad you were
able to find people who were even willing to entertain the thought....
at least that's encouraging!
Tara
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Re: "****-Head" strikes again
"Rocky" <2d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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"MauiJNP"
<jmh1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>> I actually broke Kanyak, our GSD-Dobe mix, of that habit.
>> The second time he did it (it was the buried guts of a
>> slaughtered sheep) I grabbed him by the collar and tossed
>> him into the shower stall yelling "banyo!" (the Turkish
>> word for "bath!") repeatedly as I washed him.
>
>> Kanyak HATED baths.
>> Not too long afterwards he came across another op****tunity
>> to roll in something vile and when I saw him move towards
>> it I shouted "banyo!" and that stopped him cold. There were
>> a few more chances to reinforce the "conditioning" but never
>> again did he take a roll in the muck.
> that sounds like a great idea.
It works with the right conditioning, timing, and appropriate
correction. The right timing requires that you spend time
waiting for the action to occur naturally and then apply the
appropriate correction if your dog has already received proper
conditioning.
In OTW, do that kind of stuff only if you're extremely
confortable with your dog and he's extremely comfortable
with you.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
Re: Electronic collars, was Re: Dog chewing up floors
"Rocky" <2d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>> But I'd say use it knowing that it's not just a stim or a nick.
>
> What is it if it isn't "just a stim?" (Not sure what you mean by nick.)
A nick is a time-limited stim. Good e-collars provide the
option for a "tap on the shoulder" stim which lasts in the
hundredths of a second.
> It's a very low level of current that has absolutely
> no potential for internal or external tissue damage.
A friend trains with an e-collar, and helps others with its
proper usage, yet not in Schutzhund where he used colloquially
positive methods to put a level one title on the youngest dog
in his club.
I strapped his e-collar on my upper arm, a sensitive area. On
the nick, I didn't feel much until he turned it up past what
he uses on his dogs. On the regular stim, it was--at the
worst--uncomfortable, but certainly not painful. The
*anticipation* of being "shocked" was the worst part,
but such anticipation is a human idiosyncrasy.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
THAT'S INSANE, matty.
From: Rocky <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 13 Jul 2005 04:14:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Help w/Joe Joe!!!!
Tee said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> I do NOT want to lose him but if he has to go then
> its kinder for him to do it sooner rather than later.
And he'll be returned and then returned again if this behaviour
isn't corrected now. I know that you know better than to
believe someone else will give him more chances than you have.
By aversions, I meant that you may have to do more than
call him off or give him a verbal interruption. It sounds
like Joe Joe needs some immediate and unequivocal limits
that distraction or NILIF will not supply.
I would consult a trainer knowledgeable in practical
aversion techniques for some hands-on before giving
up.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
From: Rocky <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 13 Jul 2005 16:55:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Help w/Joe Joe!!!!
Sionnach said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> The risk is higher with an e-collar than with verbal or
> other corrections, because the correction is harder to
> connect to the source.
Yes, but it seems that the point has been reached
where verbal corrections aren't working. Personally,
I don't think that Tara should use an e-collar unless
she works with someone with a great deal of experience.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
BWEEEAAAAHAAAHAAHAAHAAA!~!~!~!
>You may have mentioned it in your other thread,
> but have you considered making your outdoor
> cat an indoor cat?
Yeah. He DID mention it in the original thread which
NO WON responded to on accHOWENTA they AIN'T
GOT NO ADVICE other than to HURT the dog, matty,
JUST LIKE HOWE YOU RECOMMEND an LIE abHOWET:
"Rocky" <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>
> Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> > When you compare using sound and
> > praise to solve a problem with using
> > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
> > how can you criticize the use of sound?
> There's nothing more to be said, then.
> You've made up your mind.
> But you've impressed me by mentioning
> that you're a professor with 30 years of
> experience.
\
> So, can you cite some examples of
> people recommending "shock collars,
> hanging, and punishment"?
> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
>
>> I do know that hitting, hurting your dog
>> will often make the dog either aggressive
>> or a fear biter, neither of which we want
>> to do.
>
> And neither does anyone else, Jerome.
> No matter what Jerry Howe states.
>
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
>
> BUT, giving you the benefit of the
> doubt, please provide a quote (an
> original quote, not from one of Jerry
> Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
> shows a regular poster promoting or
> using an abusive form of training.
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
>
> So, can you cite some examples of
> people recommending "shock collars,
> hanging, and punishment"?
> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
>
> What's the point, but: Refer me to those posts of
> which you have read so many. While you're going
> through them, point out those which recommend
> shocking, and pinching, and beating. Thank you.
> --
> -Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
> Rocky wrote:
> "Deltones" <vibrov...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said in
> rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>
> > After your defense of "Limited" choking, what
> > would be the point? Where I come from, choking
> > is choking. It's never limited.
>
> So, you can't point out abuse where none occurs.
> Thank you for your contribution.
>-
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
From: Rocky (2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: How to handle aggressive situations
Date: 2004-10-19 19:42:54 PST
Melanie L Chang said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> I try really hard not to yell. The times that I have,
> Solo joined in and then lunged to the end of the
>leash.
Or, at the other end of the spectrum, Rocky cowers,
thinking I'm angry at him - a reason I don't "yuk out"
others' dogs at agility trials or training.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
---------------
Sometimes my "voice of god" startles human
and dog, especially when the human didn't
see the inappropriate behaviour. --Matt.
Rocky's a Dog.
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> wrote in message
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Rosa Palmén wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> Anybody else got bilingual dogs?
Long ago my Hebrew was pretty good - but now I
only use "Chutza"(throat clearing 'ch') - "Out" when
it's reallyreally im****tant that my dogs get away from
something.
"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It A Sharp
Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know Jack Wouldn't
Have Done It If He Thought Solo Couldn't Take It. I Still
Crate Him Because Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My
Cat," Melanie Lee Chang * mch...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Canine Behavioral Genetics Project
University of California, San Francisco
http://psych.ucsf.edu/K9BehavioralGenetics/
From: Rocky <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 10 Jun 2003 18:00:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Absolutely abysmal agility day
Robin Nuttall said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> One of the things that frustrates me the most about
> agility is that people seem to think that ALL dogs
> are fragile, shrinking flowers who cannot be
> corrected in any way.
Well, maybe one day -- when Friday doesn't take
correction so much to heart -- I'll try something
different. Right now, he's just getting the confidence
to work a few jumps ahead of me.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
"I crate Rocky, even though he's 8.5 years old, but
only when I'm gone during summertime days -
maybe an hour at the most. (Other than hot days,
my dogs are always with me.)
While Friday has been totally reliable unsupervised
from the day I got him from a rescue, Rocky has not.
Rocky will go looking for food even in areas where
there's no possibility of food.
The good thing is that he likes his crate, runs for
it when I ask, and gets food when he's in it.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAA!!!
From: Rocky (mbon...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Leg Humper
Date: 1999/09/14
Bioso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Jerry Howe) wrote in
<37D698CF.405B0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:
> By "sticking your knee up," I can only presume
> that you are suggesting that the people knee the
> dog in the chest. If that's what you meant, just
> say it, instead of beating around the bush to avoid
> criticism from people like me. That kind of crap has
> got to stop, and that's why I'm here, to help wean
> you guys off of the abuse and into the proper methods
> of dealing with behavior problems.
Jerry, I was appreciating your explanation
up until this last paragraph.
Why did you blow it?
--Matt
From: Rocky <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 16 Sep 2003 03:47:41 GMT
Subject: Re: Dominant Agressive Puppy????
Nessa said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> the only thing I remember learning from a spanking
> was to run faster than my dad and NOT GET
> CAUGHT. so what does that say?
I learned to put a comic book down the back of my
pants. And sometimes my parents pretended not to
notice. In retrospect, that's pretty cool.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
"Rocky" <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Melinda Shore wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>
> > But he's the one producing the training
> > MATTerial.
> Ack. You just gave him some moore ammunition.
> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
Oh? You mean LIKE THIS, matty?:
From: Rocky <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 15 May 2005 16:03:05 GMT
Subject: Re: What does "bupkis" really mean
shelly said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> you've just described elliott. i don't think Lucy would
> have had a clue what to do with him, though. while he's
> easy and forgiving in terms of handling, i think his prey
> drive and dog aggression would've had her in tears.
Hmm. You've got a point. Rocky is dog-dominant, a
surprise to almost everyone - some of whom know him
very well. I wonder how well Lucy reads dog? If she
can't, she'd get some ugly surprises.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAHAAA!!!
From: Rocky <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 24 Mar 2005 17:16:47
Subject: Re: help with identifing a dog breed
A mature dog comfortable in its surroundings often
won't need to physically assert its dominance.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
From: Rocky <2...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 22 Dec 2004 16:58:38 GMT
A Useful Dog
.... Rocky, OTOH, I crate when a new dog is introduced -
while he's quick to back off in times of trouble, he's
fairly dominant. -- --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHHAHAAAA!!!
"dallygirl" <kwickw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> choke chains are outdated and barbaric in many
> cases causing more harm than good.
Back at you with flat buckle collars. These are an
incredibly abused training tool, what with the number
of handlers I see pulling back and jerking on the leash
with both hands.
It's a good thing that most of us are here because of
dogs' well-being and not an agenda.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
BWEEEEAHAHAHHAAA!!!
Here's some ADVICE from matty's REAL LIFE IN PERSON
lyin animal murderin MENTAL CASE PAL liea:
Re: OT - the newsgroup - Agressive dog
"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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Because after you found out that I don't believe in G-d,
think the current president is an idiot, know global warming is
real, haven't shaved either legs or armpits in 30 years, generally
vote Democratic, and oppose the war in Iraq, you'd want nothing
more to do with me.
--Lia
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A WIZE IDEA, eh, liea?
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
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163 for author:jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"occasional post"
OT: occasional post-Broken rib-DOGS DON'T WORK CREDIT
.... I try to notify each new person who posts with the
following "occasional post" to help new people learn
to killfile faster and to waste less time in public argument.
I hope the following helps. ...
Jun 17 2002 by Julia Altshuler - 15 messages - 9 authors
OT: occasional post-this newsgroup-I'm outa here
And if you blocked the arguing, you'd see only a nice
helpful friendly group. Not only that, if you didn't post
messages like the one you just did, you wouldn't be
adding to the problem. --
Lia ...
Mar 12 2003 by Julia Altshuler - 55 messages - 20 authors
OT: occasional post-4 month old puppy still pees in her
box...help ...
I post this informational message occasionally. I try
to post it in answer to first posts by people who might
not be familiar with this newsgroup or anywhere else
it might be useful. This is rec.pets.dogs.behavior (rpdb). ..
Apr 25 2002 by Julia Altshuler - 14 messages - 5 authors
OT: occasional post-this newsgroup-Barking. Help please
John, Please don't answer him or copy his messages.
The rest of us have him killfiled and wouldn't know he
was there if you didn't.
Here's the canned message with more information: This
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From: abadabracadab...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(ABADABRACADABRAH)
Date: 17 Aug 2004 15:54:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Eggplant ! Eggplant! []
> Subject: Eggplant ! Eggplant! []
> From: Julia Altshuler jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 8/17/04 11:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> Please, folks. Remember to label your posts when you're
> arguing with trolls. So many threads are troll arguments
> these days that I can't keep track of which ones to delete
> without reading. We either do or do not have new
> annoyances.
>
> Either way, label them with the [eggplant] tag.
> I'm quick to killfile everybody.
You're INSANE, liea.
>--Lia
HOWEDY liea,
> Subject: Re: house training problem [ninnyboy]
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:57:02 GMT
> The dog groups have a newsgroup nut
You shock and jerk and choked your dog Cubbe till
she ATTACKED your only friend and tied to attack
a couple kids and did attack your neighbor's old
dog.
> who yells at everyone and never goes away.
You're a lying dog abusing MENTAL CASE, liea.
> Just ignore him, or put him in your killfile.
Perhaps you should bring back your occasional
daily and weekly warnings?
> That's what everyone else does.
That so? HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy
Wizard is the most pupular topic in the Whole
Wild World amongst dog lovers?
> Whatever you do, don't copy his messages.
You're a paranoid mental case, liea.
> That's a lot of bandwidth.
You're a DOG ABUSING MENTAL CASE, liea.
>--Lia
135 results for insubject: occasional post
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: Julia Altshuler <jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 03:46:53 GMT
Subject: OT: occasional post-this newsgroup
He *is* nuts. Don't answer him.
--Lia
This message is posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior (r.p.d.b.)
regularly and occasionally to other newsgroups including
alt.animals.dog, rec.pets.dogs.rescue, alt.pets.dog, and
rec.pets.dogs.misc. These are unmoderated groups meaning
that no one checks the messages to make sure they're on-
topic, civil or sensible before they go through.
The purpose of this occasional posting is to give information
about the newsgroup so that discussion about the newsgroup
itself is cut down and discussion about dogs increases.
Like so many usenet groups, this group has people who
post annoyingly and constantly, people who post angry
and abusive messages, people who post to irritate others.
It's up to individuals to decide which posters bother them.
Here are some guidelines that many people follow to
make this newsgroup pleasant and informative:
1. Use your killfile. A killfile (or filter) makes invisible
posts by any particular person or with any particular words
in the subject line.
The posts are still there, but they don't show up on the
screen of the person using the killfile. Look at
http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/killfilefaq.htm
for instructions.
2. Don't make more noise. The only thing more annoying
than a troll is an otherwise rational person arguing with or
about a troll.
That's known as feeding the trolls. Please don't feed the
trolls. It really is insane to attempt rational discussion with
the insane.
3. Want to exercise your right to free speech and argue
about or with trolls anyway? Put "ninnyboy" in the
subject line. That way the people who want to join the
fracas can, and those who don't can opt out by killfiling
"ninnyboy." If you don't do this, expect to be killfiled
yourself. [Jerry], with the brackets is also a recognized
signal.
4. Figured out that arguing with trolls is useless but
still want to talk about trolls by referring to them in
the third person? Put "ninnyboy" in the subject line
then too. That subject is boring too.
5. Trim quoted posts to include only the part you're
responding to. Quoting an entire long post in order to
respond to only a small piece of it is annoying. Again,
if you don't do this, expect to be killfiled.
6. Understand Candace. Candace is an automatic
program that answers troll posts automatically,
repetititively and relentlessly.
Most of us find these posts boring after a
short while and killfile it too.
That's O.K. You can't hurt its feelings.
7. Show no fear. Have a question or need to admit that
you've made errors in dog training in the past? This is
still a good place to come for (often contradictory) advice.
Use your own judgment to decide what advice to follow
and what not to. No harm can come to you even if people
vehemently disagree, call you names or repost your old
messages.
8. Label off-topic threads as "OT." A label helps people
decide what to read and what not to.
9. Check the F.A.Q. for answers to frequent non-
complicated questions.
10. Don't post pictures. This is not a binary newsgroup.
That's plain text only, no HTML, no attachments. If you'd
like, post a pointer to a website with pictures on it.
11. Don't crosspost. It's bad enough when someone posts
something dog related to all the groups having to do with
dogs. It's worse when totally unrelated groups get tossed
in the mix. Feel like you absolutely have to jump in on
something that's been crossposted to unrelated groups?
Erase the extraneous ones when you answer.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: Julia Altshuler <jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 16:53:18 GMT
Subject: OT - Should I bring back the occasional post?
The subject line says it all.
When I started posting the occasional post, the idea
was to help new people understand what's going on with
the annoyances on this newsgroup
I wanted to help them understand that anything they had
to say on the subject had been said before, wouldn't do
any long term good and would bore a bunch of people in
the short term. I stopped because I wasn't sure I was
accompli****ng my goal. Now I'm not so sure. I'm seeing
so many unmarked arguments with the annoyances.
Any opinions?
I'm not taking a vote, but I do care what the regulars think.
For new people, the occasional post is as follows. Do you
think that seeing it when you first started posting would
have helped?
Would it be more useful if it weren't so precise and wordy?
Maybe something shorter? I'm thinking it needs an update.
--Lia
-------------
DAILY / WEEKLY WARNINGS:
163 for author:jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"occasional post"
OT: occasional post-Broken rib-DOGS DON'T WORK CREDIT
.... I try to notify each new person who posts with the
following "occasional post" to help new people learn
to killfile faster and to waste less time in public argument.
I hope the following helps. ...
Jun 17 2002 by Julia Altshuler - 15 messages - 9 authors
OT: occasional post-this newsgroup-I'm outa here
And if you blocked the arguing, you'd see only a nice
helpful friendly group. Not only that, if you didn't post
messages like the one you just did, you wouldn't be
adding to the problem. --
Lia ...
Mar 12 2003 by Julia Altshuler - 55 messages - 20 authors
OT: occasional post-4 month old puppy still pees in her
box...help ...
I post this informational message occasionally. I try
to post it in answer to first posts by people who might
not be familiar with this newsgroup or anywhere else
it might be useful. This is rec.pets.dogs.behavior (rpdb). ..
Apr 25 2002 by Julia Altshuler - 14 messages - 5 authors
OT: occasional post-this newsgroup-Barking. Help please
John, Please don't answer him or copy his messages.
The rest of us have him killfiled and wouldn't know he
was there if you didn't.
Here's the canned message with more information: This
message ...
Mar 14 2003 by Julia Altshuler - 10 messages - 7 authors
---------------------------
BWEEEAAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAA!!!
From: abadabracadab...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(ABADABRACADABRAH)
Date: 17 Aug 2004 15:54:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Eggplant ! Eggplant! []
> Subject: Eggplant ! Eggplant! []
> From: Julia Altshuler jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 8/17/04 11:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> Please, folks. Remember to label your posts when you're
> arguing with trolls. So many threads are troll arguments
> these days that I can't keep track of which ones to delete
> without reading. We either do or do not have new
> annoyances.
>
> Either way, label them with the [eggplant] tag.
> I'm quick to killfile everybody.
You're INSANE, liea.
>--Lia
HOWEDY liea,
> Subject: Re: house training problem [ninnyboy]
> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:57:02 GMT
> The dog groups have a newsgroup nut
You shock and jerk and choked your dog Cubbe till
she ATTACKED your only friend and tied to attack
a couple kids and did attack your neighbor's old
dog.
> who yells at everyone and never goes away.
You're a lying dog abusing MENTAL CASE, liea.
> Just ignore him, or put him in your killfile.
Perhaps you should bring back your occasional
daily and weekly warnings?
> That's what everyone else does.
That so? HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy
Wizard is the most pupular topic in the Whole
Wild World amongst dog lovers?
> Whatever you do, don't copy his messages.
You're a paranoid mental case, liea.
> That's a lot of bandwidth.
You're a DOG ABUSING MENTAL CASE, liea.
>--Lia
135 results for insubject: occasional post
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: Julia Altshuler <jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 03:46:53 GMT
Subject: OT: occasional post-this newsgroup
He *is* nuts. Don't answer him.
--Lia
This message is posted to rec.pets.dogs.behavior (r.p.d.b.)
regularly and occasionally to other newsgroups including
alt.animals.dog, rec.pets.dogs.rescue, alt.pets.dog, and
rec.pets.dogs.misc. These are unmoderated groups meaning
that no one checks the messages to make sure they're on-
topic, civil or sensible before they go through.
The purpose of this occasional posting is to give information
about the newsgroup so that discussion about the newsgroup
itself is cut down and discussion about dogs increases.
Like so many usenet groups, this group has people who
post annoyingly and constantly, people who post angry
and abusive messages, people who post to irritate others.
It's up to individuals to decide which posters bother them.
Here are some guidelines that many people follow to
make this newsgroup pleasant and informative:
1. Use your killfile. A killfile (or filter) makes invisible
posts by any particular person or with any particular words
in the subject line.
The posts are still there, but they don't show up on the
screen of the person using the killfile. Look at
http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile/killfilefaq.htm
for instructions.
2. Don't make more noise. The only thing more annoying
than a troll is an otherwise rational person arguing with or
about a troll.
That's known as feeding the trolls. Please don't feed the
trolls. It really is insane to attempt rational discussion with
the insane.
3. Want to exercise your right to free speech and argue
about or with trolls anyway? Put "ninnyboy" in the
subject line. That way the people who want to join the
fracas can, and those who don't can opt out by killfiling
"ninnyboy." If you don't do this, expect to be killfiled
yourself. [Jerry], with the brackets is also a recognized
signal.
4. Figured out that arguing with trolls is useless but
still want to talk about trolls by referring to them in
the third person? Put "ninnyboy" in the subject line
then too. That subject is boring too.
5. Trim quoted posts to include only the part you're
responding to. Quoting an entire long post in order to
respond to only a small piece of it is annoying. Again,
if you don't do this, expect to be killfiled.
6. Understand Candace. Candace is an automatic
program that answers troll posts automatically,
repetititively and relentlessly.
Most of us find these posts boring after a
short while and killfile it too.
That's O.K. You can't hurt its feelings.
7. Show no fear. Have a question or need to admit that
you've made errors in dog training in the past? This is
still a good place to come for (often contradictory) advice.
Use your own judgment to decide what advice to follow
and what not to. No harm can come to you even if people
vehemently disagree, call you names or repost your old
messages.
8. Label off-topic threads as "OT." A label helps people
decide what to read and what not to.
9. Check the F.A.Q. for answers to frequent non-
complicated questions.
10. Don't post pictures. This is not a binary newsgroup.
That's plain text only, no HTML, no attachments. If you'd
like, post a pointer to a website with pictures on it.
11. Don't crosspost. It's bad enough when someone posts
something dog related to all the groups having to do with
dogs. It's worse when totally unrelated groups get tossed
in the mix. Feel like you absolutely have to jump in on
something that's been crossposted to unrelated groups?
Erase the extraneous ones when you answer.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: Julia Altshuler <jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 16:53:18 GMT
Subject: OT - Should I bring back the occasional post?
The subject line says it all.
When I started posting the occasional post, the idea
was to help new people understand what's going on with
the annoyances on this newsgroup
I wanted to help them understand that anything they had
to say on the subject had been said before, wouldn't do
any long term good and would bore a bunch of people in
the short term. I stopped because I wasn't sure I was
accompli****ng my goal. Now I'm not so sure. I'm seeing
so many unmarked arguments with the annoyances.
Any opinions?
I'm not taking a vote, but I do care what the regulars think.
For new people, the occasional post is as follows. Do you
think that seeing it when you first started posting would
have helped?
Would it be more useful if it weren't so precise and wordy?
Maybe something shorter? I'm thinking it needs an update.
--Lia
-------------
ANY QUESTIONS, People?
"Ye shall know the truth,
and the truth shall make you mad." -
~Aldous Huxley.
"Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
"Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain!"
-Friedrich Schiller.
INDEEDY.
AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!
In Love And Light,
I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours,
The WORLD'S CRUELEST Trainer,
Jerry Howe,
The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
M-A-J-E-S-T-I-C
G-R-A-N-D M-A-S-T-E-R
Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Ferret, Goat, Monkey
SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ;~ ) >
HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >
Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092 (Call ANY TIME)
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard
E-mail:
Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory
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