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by "Delusional_Dimensions_Recovery_DDR" <Human_And_Animal_Behavior_ Nov 10, 2008 at 10:46 AM

"Shelly" <shelly@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:Xns9B5161A4DD448shellycatsidhnet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "SteveB" <toquerville@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in news:59thu5-qd1.ln1
> @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> Sorry you did not read the original post.
>
> There was nothing about the cat being
> allowed to roam outdoors in the original post.

You mean, if you creatively EDIT everything steveb sez:

Subject: Help!
Date: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:03 PM
"SteveB" <toquerville@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:pqv9u5-hmn1.ln1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 have two dogs that just love cat turds.  And then on
 top of that it gives them diarrhea.  I'm at my wits end
about how to handle this, and have come down to
reducing the number of pets.  I live in a rural setting,
so the cat goes all around the two acres.

The dogs have the run of the place,
and I can't isolate where the cat goes.

I can't catch them at it.

They are sneaky as a ten year old.

Then they come up and "HHHEEEYYYYYYYY, HHHHHHHHHHOOOWWWW ARE
YHHHHHHHHHHOOOOU?"

 It would knock a buzzard off a gut wagon.

I'm serious, and I'm desperate.

Steve

-- 
-Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.-

                    --------------------

                          SEE?

An THEN steveb goes an DOES: "underestimate the
 power of stupid people in large numbers.-" <{}:* ~ ( >

HOWEver, we KNEW THAT was gonna happen, didn't
we, fellHOWE dog lovers who's own dogs GOT THE
SAME PROBLEM for the SAME REASON <{}'; ~ ) >

>And, since you called them "catbox" nuggets, it is
> only logical to conclude that the dog is finding them
> in the catbox, not outside.

DESPITE that steveb SEZ: "I live in a rural setting,
so the cat goes all around the two acres.

The dogs have the run of the place,
and I can't isolate where the cat goes."

                   SEE??

> Anyway,

You mean anyHOWE, you pathetic piece of
obsessive compulsive lyin slanderin kat crap.

> the advice is the same.

INDEEDY~! THERE WEREN'T NONE <{}'; ~ ) >

> If you don't want your dog eating cat ****, don't give
> the dog access to the area where the cat relieves itself.

THAT'S INSANE, ain't it, shelly <{}'; ~ ) >

> This means that you will have to control the
> movements of either the cat or the dog.

IOW, you AIN'T GOT NO TRAININ ADVICE, shelly?

NEITHER do your equally MENTALLY ILL pals here <{}: ~ ( >

> It isn't rocket science.

Oh well, then, does THAT mean that CONversely,
bein ABLE to actually TRAIN a dog IS akin to
ROCKET SCIENCE, shelly?

From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice

Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.

I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.

I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:

whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.

The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).

You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.

As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.

George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine you may find my resume
in Who's Who in Science and Technology I have been listed
 in Who's Who in the S & SE USA since 1982, and in the big
books, Who's Who in the USA, WW in the World, WW in
Medicine  etc, and WW in Science and Technology, since that date.

These are the Marquis Publications, the "real" WW, and
you can't get yourself into them.

               -------------------- 

      From: TooCool (larrym...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
   The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leader****p exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).

--Larry

              ===============

> -- 
> Shelly
> http://www.cat-sidh.net
(the Mother ****p)
> http://esther.cat-sidh.net
(Letters to Esther)

                 BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

Oh, bye the bye, shelly, you pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal murderin punk thug coward active
acute chronic life-long INCURABLE malignant malici-
HOWES MENTAL CASE, you an your imbecile PALS
can't post your LIES IDIOCY INSANITY and ABUSE
here abHOWETS nodoGdameneD more <{}: ~ ) >
 




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