HOWEDY steveb,
"SteveB" <toquerville@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> thanks for all the advice,
You're quite welcome, steveb <{}'; ~ ) >
> both from the helpful and the clueless.
Yeah. Ain't it PATHETIC that ALL your fellHOWE
pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal murderin
punk thug coward active acute chronic life-long
incurable malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL CASE
PALS got the SAME PROBLEM for the SAME REASON.
> There seems no other alternative than trying to isolate the cat to the
> garden to do her business, and restricting the dogs
> from the garden.
You ever heard of the "forbidden fruit" metaphor, steveb?
The term "forbidden fruit" is a metaphor that describes
any object of desire whose appeal is a direct result of the
knowledge that it cannot or should not be obtained or
something that someone may want but cannot have,
which by NATURE of bein FORBIDDEN, INCREASES
it's DESIRABILITY and is therefore PRIZED and STOLEN:
Forbidden fruit
Meaning
A prohibited article.
Origin
Forbidden fruit originates from the Garden of Eden bible story.
The biblical 'forbidden fruit' was of course the apple. In the story
the type of fruit isn't actually mentioned - God forbade Adam and
Eve to touch the fruit of the tree of knowledge.
It is widely interpreted as being an apple though and the 'Adam's
apple' is named after the fruit which is supposed to have stuck in
Adam's throat."
Kindal like HOWE The WORD from "The UNMENTIONABLE
WON" does here, amongst your fellHOWE dog lovers<{}'; ~ ) >
> I will put the Fi-Shock in certain areas where I think they
> are treasure hunting, but that involves hours of rooftop observation of
> the dogs.
That's BRILLIANT, steveb~!
Shocking your dogs for eatin kat poop *(like HOWE ALL
of your pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal murderin
MENTAL CASE PALS PREFER) may cause your dogs to
MURDER your kat for HURTIN them <{}: ~ ( >
> No, the cat is not going to be an inside cat, and the dogs will not be
> retrained as well.
INDEED?
> Just thought there may be some simple solution I was
> overlooking, but apparently that was not the case.
Well steveb, there IS a "simple solution" you an your pathetic
miserable stinkin rotten lyin animal murderin punk thug coward
active acute chronic life-long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
MENTAL CASE PALS "was overlooking but apparently was not
the case", on accHOWENTA they're LYIN ANIMAL MURDERIN
MENTAL CASES, like yourself, steveb <{}: ~ ( >
> Too bad they're not reasonable liberal dogs.
You *(well NOT *you* but ANY WON *(well NOT any
WON here) CAN EXXXTINGUISH coprophagia or ANY
temperament or behavior problem NEARLY INSTANTLY
simply by DOIN EVERY THING EXXXACTLY PRECISELY
OPPOSITE of HOWE you LYIN ANIMAL MURDERIN
MENTAL CASES PREFER <{}: ~ ( >
> I could send them to self esteem cl*****,
You could likeWIZE diaper the kat, steveb <{}'; ~ ) >
> or help them to feel my pain,
You ENJOY your PAIN, steveb, THAT'S HOWE COME you're
SO WILLIN to SHARE YOUR PAIN with your dogs <{}: ~ ( >
> or give them Altoids.
Coprophagia can cause parasitic infections, kinda like HOWE
ASKIN these MENTAL CASES for advice causes them to fester.
> Someone asked how I know the smell is cat excrement.
Perhaps you're a psychic?
> It's like *****.
Naaah. It's like ****, steveb.
What kina ***** are you used to?
> Once you know the smell, there's no mistaking it.
Perhaps you should find better *****, steveb?
You might wanna ask malinda or racetrack silly what kind they prefer?
> Even the fish eaters of the group would have to agree with that one.
Oh, you mean like HOWE the blind man tipped his hat an
sez "good afternoon, ladies," as he passed the fish market?
Perhaps your ***** got a case of sumpthin, eh, steveb?
> Steve
Thanks for bringin us back nearly ten years, steveb~!
Do we WANT another repetition of THIS?:
Re: May I make a pitch?....was Tomorrow
Author: Dogman <please.see....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 1999/10/09
Forum: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Maxine) wrote:
[...]
>Oh, I think I see now. You are trying to say that a **** is the same as
a
>dago. Is that right?
Yeah, that's right...words are just words, right, ****?
I thought you were a troll from the minute you got here,
and I even think I know who you are, too.
Yes, probably Robert Crim.
The chicken**** lawyer's husband.
> In my experience the average **** is much sweeter smelling
Yeah, that's why they make over 75 feminine deodorant sprays, eh?
Because pussies smell so nice.
Yeah, right...light three-week-old anchovies rotting on
the kitchen counter.
>and much better groomed than your usual garlic reeking drunken dago,
>guinea, wop, or greaseball.
No self-respecting Italian would ever put his dick in a
***** that smelled as bad as yours, Max.
I can smell it way back here in St. Louis, in fact, and
the winds are even out of the West!
Besides, he'd probably break it, if he did.
>Mine sure is.
Your ***** is to stench what **** is to sewers.
>Face it greaseball, I'm your worst nightmare.
Nightmare?
You're a ****. Period.
>I'm a ***** with a brain.
You're a **** with a CRACK in your head, that's all,
and any brain has long ago seeped out.
>I don't need you or anything like you.
That brings me great joy, Max.
>Eat your heart out greaseball.
Over you?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Before I'd ever **** you, Maxine, I'd stick my dick out a
window and SLAM it!
>Kiss, kiss.
Suck, suck -- ****.
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"It's like religion. Heresy [in science] is thought of as a
bad thing, whereas it should be just the opposite." Dr.
Thomas Gold
Re: May I make a pitch?....was Tomorrow
Author: Dogman <please.see....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 1999/10/09
Forum: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Maxine) wrote:
>> >Its like calling a woman a *****. Only tan insecure ***** would get
>> >upset unless it was really meant as an insult.
>> Oh yeah, ****? And, yes, I meant that as an insult.
> Can anyone explain why this person acts like this? What is wrong with
him
> to act this way?
What way?
Remember...****...dago...****...dago...****...dago.
Hey, it's no big deal!
Ain't that right, ****?
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"It's like religion. Heresy [in science] is thought of as a bad
thing, whereas it should be just the opposite." Dr. Thomas Gold
Re: May I make a pitch?....was Tomorrow
Author: Dogman <please.see....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 1999/10/09
Forum: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Maxine) wrote:
[...]
> Last week I was Brian Gross. This week I am Robert Crim. Next week
think
> I will be Martina Navritalova.
If I ever find out that you really are Crim, you're going
to wish you were Navritilova.
In fact, you're going to wish you were *anyone* but Robert Crim.
>She is more my type anyway.
No thanks, but I don't consider her a ****.
That's your type -- the quintessential ****.
Think Leona Helmsley, only broke.
>Be sure to look under your bed before you say your prayers tonight
>greaseball.
Okay, but don't forget to flush your **** out with ammonia, eh?
Otherwise you're likely to asphyxiate your entire neighborhood.
>The boogeyman might be waiting for you.
You'll wish I were the bogeyman, Crim, if I'm ever able
to track this post to you.
>Kiss, kiss.
Suck, suck, CRIM.
--
Dogman
mailto:dog...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"It's like religion. Heresy [in science] is thought of as a bad
thing, whereas it should be just the opposite." Dr. Thomas Gold
From: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 21:23:25 -0400
Subject: Re: housemate aggression is there a solution?
Hello Any,
"Any Non-mouse" <anynonmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Thank you for your response.
Sure, we always try to acclimodate your queztiuns.
> Unfortunately, it is not particularly useful,
What color is your dog?
> being a nonspecific answer to the final question:
We need moore information. HOWE old is IT?
> "Is it possible, even it it requires an extraordinary amount
> of effort and committment on my part to be able to live with
> both females in the same room?"
ann relies on shock collars to train her dogs. You got any brown dogs?
> This is unfortunately a rhetorical question-
That's probaly caus u dint giv 'nuf infermashun.
> -more the theme than the substance of the post.
ann's dog has lots of toys but no balls.
> The request really is for anyone with experience in systematically
> attempting the extingui****ng/reversing of this behavior.
Naaaah. Yoou can't do that. We got to neurter and pay them
and maybe you should get another dog. What colors do you like?
> Obviously, I am well aware that ***** fighting is a serious problem,
Only after the first twinty secunds.
> and I have become quite proficient at the use of locked doors crates and
> fences.
That's the best our experts can offer you.
> You express the opinion that keeping the *****es physically seperated is
> required,
Figure it out. ann is a shock collar trainer... she's hit the wall.
Keeping the dogs behind a barrier will likely cause a barrier
frustration and increase the aggression. Mishandling the dogs by
correcting forcing or scolding them will increase the aggression.
Shocking the dogs will increase the aggression. Bribing the dogs
will increase aggression.
That only leaves TRAINING as a last resort, and they don't do that
here... boob maida might want to see you in person so he can refer you
to his competition as he did carol levie and her dog aggressive dog who
came out of training snapping at her because she was taught to jerk and
choke her dog by the experts our expert boob maida with his thirty
somehthing years of calling expert dog trainers child molestors....
that's what we got here, is dog abusing Thugs who accuse non violent
trainers of being liars and child molestors. Gee, but I miss dogman and
his anchovies and lysol.
> from which I surmise that you believe that this is an
> intractable/irreversible behavior problem.
You still don't get it, do you? ann is a shock collar trainer. People
who hurt dogs to train them don't have the intellect to outwit a puppy
dog. She spays and neuters every critter cause she's afraid of them,
chokes and shocks them and says she trains with praise and rewards...
Yeah.
> What would be useful,
Information and methods would be useful if they
had any here, but our Gang Of Thugs is EMPTY...
> would be for you to describe the techniques you have used or have seen
> used unsucessfully to reverse this behavior problem in sufficient detail
> that I can avoid the use of these techniques in my own situation.
You ain't getting this at all, are you? Our "experts" all hurt
dogs to train them. They're afraid of dogs, that's why they
kill them. They don't have TRAINING SOLUTIONS, they
can only tell you to lock the dogs up and avoid problems
and any hope of a normal lifestyle.
> That type of negative experience could be very useful.
Our "experts" are lying dog abusing Thugs.
You ain't gettin information from them...
> You ask if the dogs are intact. None are neutered. Do you have good
> quality evidence that neutering one or all of the dogs is either a
> necessary (the problem can only be solved with neutered animals) or
> sufficient (all that needs to be done to solve the problem is to neuter
> animal x, y and/or z) condition for addressing this problem?
Neutering seldom helps and makes aggession
worse in about 15% of the cases.
I've got the methods and the information you need, and it's FREE. But
our experts would rather hurt and kill dogs than admit Jerry is right.
From: "Jerry Howe" <jho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 23:17:14 -0400
Subject: Re: housemate aggression is there a solution?
Hello Any Non-mouse,
"Any Non-mouse" <anynonmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Than you for your response, Jerry.
My pleasure.
> For clarification: All of my dogs came in as puppies, shortly past
> weaning with me and my wife as only owner subsequent to breeder.
Current
> ages HuskyX ***** 8, Pyr dog 2.5, Pyr ***** 2 yr.
Good. Shouldn't have much difficulty getting a couple kinks out.
> I am new to this group--so the location of the Wits End Dog Training
> Method Manual is not known to me. I did a Google search and came up
with
> a do***ent http://www.joinme.net/petnews/dogtraingmanual.html
which
prints
> out to about 28 pages single spaced ending with "This concludes part two
> of the WEDT manual." Is that the do***ent you reference, or is there
> another location?
I'm not sure about that copy, I'll look into (link didn't open just
now), thanks. The latest edition (may even have the same date, so don't
go by that because it's still being worked on) is available in two
formats on my site http://www.doggydoright.com
> I am assuming from your response that you have had a positive experience
> with reversing a long established fighting pattern between two *****es
as
> described.
Yes, it shouldn't be difficult with your dogs. Their ages and
background is perfect, and they don't fly off the handle instantly
on sight. Those are real good indicators.
> I would be interested in specifics about the techniques you have used.
My manual teaches non force, non confrontational distraction and praise
and conditioning techniques and focuses on inspiring your dog with
confidence in your leader****p and desire for your praise to make the dog
naturally want to do everything we ask.
> I have not found anything particularly outrageous in the above do***ent,
> but I would be interested in the specifics of how the principles could
be
> applied to the particular problem I am having without exposing my dogs
to
> an unacceptable level of danger.
That's my concern too. There's any number of ways we can work the dogs
to gether, but we won't even know if that's necessary till we've done
the basic work to train the dogs to come instantily 100% of the time in
the event that one of our distraction techniques should fail.
I start you off in the manual learning to condition your dog to look at
and listen to you every time you tell him good boy. Then I teach you
HOWE to handle the lead without pulling and to get your dogs attention
and teach him to follow you in the Family Leader****p Exercise and at the
same time install the come command as a conditioned reflex. Pretty EZ
stuff after you've read the manual once or twice and practice for a few
minutes without the dogs around.
Next you repeat the Family Leader****p Exerscise (fifteen minutes or less,
maybe six minutes when you're good at it) a few times till we're certain
the dog is responding properly and we've got the controls we need to
work them together. When you're ready for that, let me know and we'll go
over some strategies that'll best suite your layout and we'll see if we
can't get everybody to live like they really want to. They're just
scared, that's all. That's why being forceful won't work, because when
the big shot isn't there to drop the hammer, they're in charge and it's
everybody for himself. j;~}
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