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Re: Leash training a reluctant dog

by "Bad Puppy" <BadAssedDogs@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 30, 2008 at 10:03 PM

HOWEDY Stephen_B,

As stated, I'm posting a SMALL SAMPLE of diddler's
EXXXPERTEASE for your edification.  ENJOY:

"Stephen_B" <stephen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:c6e134b1-9ad0-4c0c-acb0-63bf154ca478@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> We have a young dog (4 month, 20 pounds, boxer/border collie mix)

From: "Bad Puppy" <BadAssedDogs @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Subject: Re: Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:24:54 -0400


"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns9AC8838847FECdiddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Kris L. Christine <Kris.L.Christine.2a84...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> spoke these words
> of wisdom in news:Kris.L.Christine.2a84b68@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> *"Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians" * by >> Jan Rasmussen,
award-winning 
>> author 'About>> Maltese Dogs'

> Veterinarians certainly are dangerous!

Only some are, diddler, particularly those who post their
self-serving lies idiocy insanity and abuse here <{}: ~ ( >

> A lot of sick dogs go there!

INDEEDY.

HOWEver, most of your own dogs GET DEAD as
a direct result of your "TRAININ METHODS".

                 LIKE THIS:

Subject:     Re: untrainable beagle! NEED HELP

"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns9834C98CEC696danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in thread news:BO2Lg.4755$xV.1684@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "graham
> fandango!" <gmey...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:
> i have a ten year old beagle who i got from the animal
> shelter 5 years ago. its pretty clear he was abused in
> some form before he ended up in the shelter; when ever
> i reach for something, like the tv remote, too quickly he
> flinches. he gets scared when i sweep the kitchen floor
> and hides under the bed.

I have one too. I don't know her past history,or her age.

I use an antibark collar on her for my sanity. She's very
quiet, until I take it off. It doesn't train her not to bark,
because she barks when the collar is off. (beagles "Do
that")

There may not even be batteries in it, but she doesn't
bark... just in  case.I'd supervise the first time you try
it, because I've heard of some dogs barking, and going
so spazzy over them that they died.

I really don't think you are going to train a dog that
age, especially a beagle, NOT to bark.  I see your
options as being:

  1) anti-bark collar
       a)citronella
       b)electronic
       c)bark buster (your neighbors will
       probably complain asmuch about
       that as the howlng)
 2) surgical debarking
 3) placing the dog and accepting the consequences
 4) moving

              ----------------------- 

"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns9A74B7CCF8817diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <barney...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spoke these words of wisdom in news:
5a8c97ed-06aa-
4211-b345-b49062eff...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> The shock is minimal and nothing to worry about.

> There are 2 different types that frequent this group:
> the high falutin city folk that believe dogs should be
> treated like children, and the answer for any problem
> is "enroll them in class and spend $300 to teach them
> not to do it, and put them in time-out, but be sure
> their paw socks are on before stepping outside if under
> 50 degrees, etc."

First, I know of a dog with an antibark collar, who
protested so violently, he spazzed out and killed himself.

He was found dead in his kennel the next morning.

What dog training schools charge $300?

                 ------------ 

OR you could just MURDER them yourself.

                LIKE THIS:
From: diddy <none>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:59:17 -0600
Subject: Re: The kind of mess uneducated breeders are making

No idea what he is. He's supposed to be part chow, but he
looks more aussie/duck tolling retriever to me than anything
with a pomeranian tail.

His facial animations are hilarious, you can see the wheels
turning, and he's very engaging. The down side is, a kid from
next door came over and pulled his ears, and he bit the kid on
the face resulting in a $300,000 plastic surgery.

I have a zero tolerance for dog bites, and would normally
put a dog that did that down, but this dog was the victim
here.

                   ---------------- 

90% of those "SICK" dogs are sufferin from iatrogenic
DIS-EASES, like your own GENETIC DEFECTIVE
backyard bred ElkHOWENDS, diddler.


                LIKE THIS:
"Tuck is  and has been fighting  Pano  and HOD since
5 days AFTER his distemper shot. (I had it done at
humane society vaccine clinic) My vet recommends the
distemper shot being given separately. yes,it takes
another trip to the vet.

The distemper shot is well known forcausing vaccine
reactions and even auto-immune response. (well thats
what vaccines DO..is kickin the auto-immune system)

But over loading an immune system  can cause unwanted
reactions. In Tuck,it took the form of HOD/PANO.

There has to be some genetic predisposition to auto-immune
response as well. Tuck's Daddy had bad food allergies.  (an
auto-immune response) and that should have alerted me toa
predisposition.

But I didn't realize the distemper shot would set off a
change of reactions that will last for  one to two years.

My vet says, NEXT year, to be sure to re-vaccinate him with
the same distemper  company that manufactured the distemper
shot that he recieved that caused the problem. Make sure he
recieves the distemper shot SEPARATELY  from the rest.

Part of his treatment protocal is toFeed him large breed
puppy  food (even though he is not a large breed dog) to
slow his growth.

So yes. in answer to your question, I have experienced a
reaction  to the distemper shot. Or my dog has.. It's not
the same reaction as you are describing. But yes, I have."

           --------------------- 

            BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA!!

> And sooner or later, they ALWAYS die!

INDEEDY. But not always at the vet, like when you
SHOOT your own DEAD DOG in the street after lettin
IT get RUN DHOWEN by an errant SCHOOL BUS.

              LIKE THIS:

"I was in that position once when Becky was hit
 by a car when my son left the yard gate open."

Fromdiddy <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:43:30 -0500

Subject: Re: Rural person needs help euthanizing his loving pet.

I think sedating her with benedryl until she was overly sleepy, and
injecting her with Epsom salts IV should cause such chemical
imbalance that it should do the trick.

I'm not sure how humane that would be, It would cause a heart attack.
Well placed gun shots are probably the most immediate, effective and
humane, but then, you said that was not acceptable. Carbon dioxide is
NOT humane.. it's slow and agonizing as the other g***** in car
exhaust burn out the lungs causing agonizing death.

       ----------------------------

          BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

            IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

And even then, when you DO MURDER your own DEAD
DOG at the vet it don't always go AS IT SHOULD BE, as in the case of YOUR 
OWN DOGS, FOR EXXXAMPLE,
diddler.

                  LIKE THIS:
Re: Question About Euthanasia - Not For Faint of Heart

"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
in message news:Xns995C9D28D6616danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 if you are willing to be trolled.  Using firearms
is not the most palatable way to put a dog down, but
sometimes it IS the most humane. For instance. I live
10 miles from a vet not an unreasonable distance  for
routine care.

But one day, I was outside the fence in the company of
my dog, when the phone rang inside the house. I ran in
the door, and it was my dad. I said, "Dad, the dog did
not come in with me, I'll call you back"

Not aware that my dog had crossed the road to visit the
children getting off the school bus across the street,
I assumed her to be in her usual haunts, out in the back
pasture or barns.

I called her to come, and called her directly into the
path of a speeding car. She got hit directly on the
license plate and was thrown about 30 yards.

I knew exaclty what had happened, when I heard the
sickening thud, and her screams.

I rushed to her, and saw the blood streaming from her
ears and nose. her mangled little body irreparable. I
knew she was going to die. She quit screaming when I
went to her side. I went to move her, and she started
screaming even louder.

I knew moving her was only causing her greater agony.
She was in enough, and the outcome was not going to be
any better.

I decided to not put her through any more, and I left
her screaming, went in the house, got the handgun, and
returned. I gave her a tearful hug and apology. And I
did the hardest thing I've ever done in my whole life.

I took her pain, and made it my own. She immediately
slumped and went limp, and was silent. Quick. Taking
her to the vet was the poorer alternative.

in later years, I released a dog from the pound. She
was dumped for biting.  Knowing that most of the time,
a dog that bites is the child's fault, I brought her
home to see if she was salvageable in a childless home.

She at least deserved an evaluation.  She seemed fine,
then the following day, with no provocation, she lunged
for my throat. This was an unprovoked attack, and I knew
there was probably something physically wrong with the
dog (perhaps a brain tumor?) and regardless, she was a
HUGE liability risk, and I could never place her.

So I took her to the vet for euthanasia.

The vet kept sticking her for 15 minutes, and it was the
ugliest screaming death I ever witnessed.... until I had
my old 18 year old companion diagnosed with systemic organ
failure. Her old body wore out. I took her to the vet.

Apparently poor circulation caused her not to use the
euthanasia shot properly. The vet kept giving her one
shot after another, and she dies a slow agonizing death,
screaming, and looking at me in betrayal and dismay.

I wanted to grab her from the vet, and take her home,
and shoot her. It would have been over faster.

Then I took Danny in for Euthanasia. The best dog I've
ever had. The vet stuck him, and he went down HARD,
screaming.

He screamed for about 10 minutes.

If a vet was going to get a dog right, this one he HAD
to, and he didn't. I was furious. I'm forever sorry I
took him to the vet, but the violence of shooting him
was just unnacceptable to me.

These are THREE different vets.

I've witnessed hundreds of vet euthanasias that went
uneventfully. But those THREE failures stick forever
in my mind. Two on  dogs very near and dear to me.

If I could accept the violence and had the fortitude
to do the job myself, those dogs would have never
needlessly suffered. A bullet properly placed is quick
and final.

Perhaps the OP has had not so good experiences, and
just wants to be sure the job is done right. I don't
necessarily consider them a troll (however I strongly
suspect that they are, and if they have to ask what
caliber to use, they probably are not a good enough
shot that they should attempt this)

             ------------------ 

          BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

Of curse, there's always more creative ways of
MURDERIN innocent defenseless dumb critters.

                LIKE THIS:

WHEN YOU CAN'T FIND ANY CATS TO SHOOT,
SHOOT HUNGRY DOGS INSTEAD FOR GETTING
IN THE GARBAGE

From: diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK

Date: 2002-11-08 07:00:27 PST

I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way I would react.
There would be none left standing to deal with the threat just in
case.

If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
continents stop me from pursuing justice.

Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If someone is
feeding his dog outside, his own dog might not mean THAT
much to him.

If he was feeding his dog outside though, many dogs are food
aggressive, and that could most certainly spark a dog aggression
thing. (and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what was it
doing in his yard?)

I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my horses and
called him to help me find it. I would do the same for threatening
my dog.

My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up trash up and
down our road for years making an unbelievable mess. When
we finally killed the culprit, the whole road cheered. Animal
control had never been able in years to catch this critter. (we
think it was feral it was certainly unkempt enough to have
been....and it had been shot at by MANY of the neighbors,
but it never frightened it off enough to keep it from NOT
tearing up the road the next trash day)

         --------------------------------- 

OR you could just BLUDGEON a innocent defenseless kitty kat:

From: diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse?
Date: 2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST

Lyn wrote:

   > > You know I'm a cat abuser because I let my cat out.
   > >  Alison
   >
   > Well, it totally depends upon where you live, as to whether
   > or not doing so is in the best interest of your animal.
   > Abuser isn't a term I would use, and I am a "cat group"
   > regular.

Here it would be abuse. If you like your cat you keep it
home. I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
animal trapline.

This  morning there was a cat in a snare. Ordinarily,
an animal caught in a snare  can be released unharmed.
One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes (and the
complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)

Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals,
to me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they
can't become lunch.. whatever.

Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
spine) around the waist area.

This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to extricate this cat
was exceedingly difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because
I feared damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I
imagined this cat was not likely to survive.

It would have been much simpler to dispatch the unfortunate
cat and take out the dead body. Instead, this cat wore a
collar. it deserved a chance, and the owner deserved closure.
(no id on the collar).

It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken to
the vet for examination. I will probably never know if this
particular cat survives the experience or not.

People in the area were aware that trapping was being done and
apparently still let their cats run free, b oth endangered by
the traps and by the coyotes being targeted that are causing a
problem with their cat population.

Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have tried
to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have been a
kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be attracted to
this type of trap, in this position, and then they weren't
supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation.
If you like your pet, you keep them home.

          ----------------------

Unless of curse, you got some EXXXTRA ammo left
over from last year. Then you could just SHOOT them.

               LIKE THIS:

DIDDY ON CATS (shoot, don't trap)

From: diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Fur Auction Ohio State Trappers Association
Xenia Ohio Feb 15 2002
Date: 2002-02-16 12:06:21 PST

If I can get him  away from the Olympics, I'll have him
answer that. He doesn't know how to change the identity on
the computer, so if "I" answer this post... it's really
Jeff. And no.... we went to watch. He sold nothing. btw..
are these "CATS" feral domestic cats? (sorry not familiar
with Oklahoma) (I just shoot the DSH cats. Jeff caught a
couple cats last summer while nuisance trapping an orchard,
but it wasn't intentional)
-- 
diddy

              ------------------
OR you could just lock them in a crate
an let your dogs tear them to shreds.

                LIKE THIS:

From: diddy
(di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST

Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet owner****p.

I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes,  Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.

I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.

To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will
not look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.

I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has
never been harmed by  any of the dogs. Danny is there
all the time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming
the cat.

             --------------------------------- 

OR you could just POISON them.

                 LIKE THIS:

Re: Just scheduled blood test--Zipper too

"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns99056C3BAB8F4danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 in thread
news:IeqdnZChtN4RX5jbnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "MauiJNP"

> <jmh1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:
> in thread news:IeqdnZChtN4RX5jbnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 "MauiJNP"
> jmh1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:
> Seems to me, that should be a standard question for
> any pet having any problems at this time.

I took Tuck in last Wednesday to the vets because two weeks
before, he had chewed some old treated lumber. Knowing that
treated lumber used to be treated with Arsenic, and he ate a
substantial amount, I took him into the emergency clinic and
they treated him for arsenic poisoning.

A week later, he still had a raw stomach, esophagus and stomach
(revealed by endoscopy). He was treated with buffers, and antibiotics
to prevent infection of the inflamed tissues. Wednesday, still not
right, but improving, I took him back in for a recheck.

The first thing the vet did, was ask what foods I was feeding.
Which I understood why, but felt considering his current history,
was rather a unnecessary question. I felt we pretty much knew
 what was going on with him.

Since he was greatly improved, we decided not to do another
endoscopy and just watch him. He's 100% back to normal.
Hope Cali is too.

                ------------ 

           BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

               IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

OR you could just let them swallow string and lock
them in an electrified stall in the barn and when that
fails, lock them in an outHOWES.

                 LIKE THIS:

diddy wrote:

I think 4 hours or so, I had put him in a supposedly
"Secure" place, while I had to leave. When I got
home, he had trashed my house. From then on,
when I left, he got put in the horse stall.

He trashed my horse stall.

He then got a new horse stall, wore a E-collar,
I electrified the perimeter of the stall and we
were finally able to contain him while we worked
on his escape problems.

Once he learned that I was more determined to
defeat him, he finally subdued. But escaping, to
him was a game.

Both of us had a throughly miserable time during
the stand off. The dog is actually now a very good
citizen. He just had to meet someone more determined,
and stubborn and willing to go the distance to do what
it took, before he would stop.

Like I said, I thought he and I were going
to grow old together.

I am not going to go into exactly where we
went before we got that accomplished.

Let's just say it was "ugly"

         ------------------------------ 

diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Oh My God

Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is fascinated
by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and listen to them
howling. I brought her in, and she spent the night franticly and
desperately demanding to go out.

After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
securely in a horse stall for the night.

She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.

At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
was not going to be tolerated.

This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
(normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
(not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
confinement.)

I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of blood on
the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.

That blood didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
and corresponding coyote breeding season.

Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
She had blood (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.

I had her at the vets office this morning before he
opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
up with huge air pockets.

Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
because she was chewing it. That would explain
EVERYTHING.

The  strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
it works its way through.

Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
afford. I will manage.

Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
-- 
diddy

            ----------------------

OR you could just feed them an all natural diet
with lots of fresh bones an let them die from
peritonitis.

                 LIKE THIS:

From: diddy <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:20:04 -0400

Subject: Re: ahhh.. a PP book I like!

 I ruined Danny's stomach by feeding him a lifetime of RAW diet.
Danny was fed chicken backs and necks, along with Beef knuckles.

He had bacterial  growths in his gut from the raw meats along with
scouring of the stomach lining (especially in the area of the pyloric
valve) creating massive scar tissue that eventually led to inflammation
and total obstruction. Nothing was visible externally except for tearing
of the eyes to indicate that something internally was VERY wrong.

I was pleased with the BARF diet and felt that my efforts were giving
the very BEST for my dog. I was pleased with the coat and energy levels.
I felt by taking the extra effort, I was going the extra mile to keep my
dog healthy and insure him a long life. Studying nutrition and learning
all I could about feeding naturally made me feel good about myself.
Believing I was doing the very BEST for my dog.

  Anyone who alluded otherwise drew rapid fire arguements. I
proselytized for BARF, believing every word that I advocated.
Feeling the more I could convert, the better lives dogs would have.

 Dogs deserved no less. I was on a mission.

The day he vomited, was the day he went to the hospital. EXPENSIVE
diagnostics plus repair took 3 months from the first onset of visible
trouble. The trail led to $28,000 in expenses (I mortgaged the farm to
pay this) and much agony for myself and the dog. He would not have
survived without 3 months of hourly (including nightime)
administrations.

A year and a half later, I once again gave him a 5 inch diameter beef
knuckle (with attached 6 inch shank) and he ate it, once again, it
scoured his stomach and pyloric valve, and 6 months later, he is still
exhibiting problems.

Those advocating RAW, BARF and to give your dog a bone are
advising people to take risks with their dogs life. I am now feeding
Z/D Ultra for my Danny. Science Diet Adult for Reka. I learned high
protien is NOT good for dogs, and Low phosphorus is.

Since I feed so little food to keep these guys from getting fat, I ran
into problems with high digestable foods and needed one with filler
 and fiber.  Low fiber and high digestability  means low motility and
stomach problems, especially for Danny.

So all the negative things people say about Science diet are what
I think is in my dogs best interests, and the reason they are on it.

Humbly and happily feeding traditional diets.

                 ------------------ 

              BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                 IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

OR you could just let them eat all the horse poop in creation.

                   LIKE THIS:"diddy" <diddy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in 
messageNews:Xns993C52BAC299Bdanny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dogs aren't into
beer 
that much.But they sure love Horse poop!              ----------------  
BWEEEAAAAHAHAAA~!From: diddy <none>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:00:29 -0600

Subject: And then there were......

I was prepared a few hours ago to post there were now only two dogs.
But after a trip to the Dayton Emergency
clinic, we are now only $200 poorer and brought home avery torb'ed up 
beagle.

We estimate the beagle to be about 14.

This morning she had severe abdominal distress.  Pacing, whining,
and crippling spasm, accompanied with the mostpitiful moans and
groans you ever heard.

My husband said, if it's serious (LOOK HERE.. ANY PAIN
OF THAT MAGNITUDE IS SERIOUS!) we weren't going to fix
it, we would simply put her down.

But she got out yesterday, and indulged in a buffet of horse meadow
muffins.She may be impacted, and it might pass.I told him she's in
pain, and transient or not, we have to do something about the pain
while we wait to see if the issue resolves or not.

So the vet said, if you aren't fixing it. Let's juice her up on
Torbugesic, 
healthy doses of antibiotics, with reglan
to move things along. We just treated everything.  So if
there is improvement, we will assume fixable.

If not.. Iwill write that "And then there were two" post.
to be continued.....

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         BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                  IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

OR you could just POISON them with Diazanon.

                                    LIKE THIS:

HOWEDY Diddler,

  "diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
                news:3E0FA841.80A2FB0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
                > EAINDY wrote:

> > Well, once again I caught my 4 yr old male
 > > Golden Retriever - German Shepherd mix
                > > digging frantically in back yard this
                > > afternoon and eating something.  He is
                > > completely obsessed with whatever is down
                > > there.
                >
                > > The hole is abou 6" deep and only about
                > > as wide as his muzzle. I see nothing when
                > > I look in hole when he is done. I live in
                > > Indiana, and  the ground has not frozen
                > > up for the winter.   My female Husky does
                > > the same thing although not as frantically.
 >
                > > I just recently spent $1000 on him in emergency vet
>> bills, xrays, 2 days in hospital, etc for bloody diarreah
>> and vomiting which happened after another dig-eat
>>episode a few weeks ago.
                >
                > > I'm not sure the digging and eating was the cause,
> > but I suspect it.  But then there have been other
> > digging episodes where he didn't get sick.
>
> > Almost exactly 2 yrs ago, I had a similar episode with him.
                >
> Mine do that when they are digging for Grubs (June Bugs)

                Sounds like fun, diddler.

Do you sell their bodies or use them for potions?

                > Degrubbing the yard with Diazinon works a treat.

                They like that, do they?  I'll go get some.

I just LOVE listenin to them singin their little hearts out on
 hot summer days. Kinda reminds Your Puppy Wizard when
 he was just a Wiz kid of the cabin in the mountains at the
sea shore we spent summers.


                > My neighbors also quit having skunk/mole/dog digging
> problems when they treated their yard for grubs.

       Yeah. That's what I was afraid of, diddler.

 Didn't they take Diaz off the market about ayear or two ago?
I don't think poisonin the yard with a dog that you KNOW
eats dirt and stuff is WISE. No wonder your neighbor quit
      havin that problem. I don't think our OP wants to solve the
 diggin problem by killin the dog, diddler.

     Your Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method
 students cure digging in a few minutes over a couple of days,
maybe less.

You're a LYIN ANIMAL MURDERIN MENTAL CASE, diddler.

"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns99E154DAFFD50diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 dog trainer must succeed. By nature, "Command" mentality
makes dog trainers a curmudgeonly lot. The deeper a dog
behavior digs in, the more willing a good trainer is to dowhat
it takes to uproot the undesired behavior.

This willingness to tackle what results in a battle of wills is well
pronounced in dog trainers. And if you think that's something, try
horse trainer lists, where the ante is upped X 1000 pounds and
poor results can KILL you!

However, "nice little horsey " types are rarely successful
in horse training and rather self extingui****ng bringing
about more moderation in established techniques.

                    -----------------------------

                            BWEEEAAAAHAHAAA~!

"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies are
going to come back and bite you. I don't understandhow, you
as a trainer, don't comprehend this.

Having a 100% reliable dog does notEVER allow for mitigated cir***stances.

A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.

You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should betaught to obey.

I can call any of my dogs off in full chase and ask them to drop
anythingthey are doing, and they will.

I think that should be expected of any breed, and those who
 do not teach "leave it" fundementals atre missing the boat"

            BWEEEAAAHAHAAAA~!~!~!
            BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

          Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS?:

"Cappy the beagle killed one of my ducklings today.
Tuck grabbed a leg, and swallowed a leg and thigh
before I could get him.a month ago, he almost died
 from swallowing achicken wing.
Now I'm sweating all over again.

I think he's never going to  be allowed out ever
again without a muzzle! (he seems alright thus far.

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   BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
                IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

Re: Tuck's SAR experience
"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns982D2E8C7C9D6danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I just came in from putting chickens to bed, and Tuck
 had my computer keyboard on the floor, and there are
 now two keys missing.

 Ornery git

                           ------------- 

             BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
                       IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns9839861A82FF6danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in thread news:m1s5g2lsio01rsk9iisfcjotfqigmljjnp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Janet B <j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled
the following words:

> Curious how many choose to crate a dog forever,
> whenever they leave the house and/or overnight,
> or how many choose to wean from household
> crate usage (usage being shutting the dog in the
> crate, not the dog choosing to hang out there) at
> some specific ages or maturity levels.
> Not for how long during a workday, but how
> long for a dog's lifespan?

 I plan on crating Tuck whenever NOT supervised
 (which isn't often.. he usually is with me) Until the
 day that he quits tearing apart everything in sight
 when I leave the room.

 A dog proof room doesn't work.

 He's figured out door knobs. He's figured out cupboards,
 and he loves to tug open dresser drawers.  He's notinterested
 in anything  left out in the open.

 He's into treasure hunting, figuring  anything worth
 secreting away is worth his effort discovering. He's
 discovered the sock stash is in drawers.

 Trash cans? --not interested.
 Counter tops? --not interested
 Counter tops -with food? --not interested
 Dog food sitting on the floorin open bags? --not interested

 razor blades from bathroom drawers?  ...  Very cool stuff!

 Mom really gets bent too!

 nope.. His crate is going to be occupied for some time to come.

 As for the beagle.. She's never been trustworthy.

She's getting senile and never will be trustworthy,
so a crate is in her future until she crosses the bridge.

 Reka, no crate at no time,  She lost her crate when she was
 5 months old.  Both Tuck, and reka hangout in crates by choice.

 Reka dens in the bathtub usually. (kind of a crate) But she
likes the beagles vantage point, because the beagles crate
is on top of Tuck's. Right next to the window so she can see out.

Tuck prefers the compartment with a view as well.

 I always have to vacate him (even though the crate on top is
 too small for both elkhounds, it's their preferred lookout)
 when I wantto stick in the beagle.

 Reka sleeps under the bed at night or in the bathtub at night
 if it's really hot. She sleeps in the  bathtub by day when not
 watching from the penthouse suite.

 Tuck is not crated at night, and has chosen to sleep in
 the closet. The beagle holds down the couch, night and day.

                                 -------------- 

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                            IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

 > "diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
 > news:JS76a.9623
 >
 >> Taya had eaten  over 5 POUNDS of summer sausage!

>>  I just had to laugh, because otherwise, I'd have cried.
 >
 > is taya an elkie? no point in crying over ingested summer sausage
 > is what my mom used to say. did she get the runs?

 Taya IS a 1/2 a cup a day  for food elkie. When i told mom and dad
 that she ate 5 POUNDS, we all marveled, my goodness! Where did she
 put it all!

She went to the emergency vet clinic last night in a snowstorm
along 60 miles of ice slick roads, & blowing snow. The price
wasn't bad $120 but she had pancreatitis.

Crap, I should have induced vomiting when I realized it had happened.

Going from a regular diet of ounces in a day to 5 pounds
was bound to cause problems!

She seemed fine at the time, and I didn't think about it.

  It could have been worse. There was NO fat in those summer sausages,
  because they were homemade. No greasy texture, and much better than
  any you buy. Because there was no fat, I had figured pancreatits
  wasn't going to be a factor.

 Wrong again.

               ------------------------- 

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

                                  IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >

Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS:

Subject: Re: teaching dogs "jobs"

(They were taught NEVER EVER to step on a road.... No foot
EVER touches the road!) Danny lost a tracking test once,
because the test crossed a seldom used gravel road. When he
reached the road, a car just happened to go by. He refused to
cross the road, and when I took him by the collar and ****ged
him, I was Disqualified for aiding the dog.

Danny simply will NOT cross a road..
when he was intact, not EVEN for a ***** in season.

Now you have a dog that...

                     WHOOOOPS!

        Whoops, Danny And Taya run away from
        unsecured yard and imbecile owner BUT
        CAREFULLY AVOID CROSSIN A ROAD.

        Will they survive life out in the wilderness
        out amongst diddler's coyote traps?

        Will they get mistaken for coyotes and sold
        to the highest bidder at the fur auction?

        Or will they live again to do a help dummy diddy
        do a demonstration on safe and responsible pet
        owner****p in the kitchen with the vet's office kitten?

                       Stay tuned, fans...

        From: Kathy Levee (kle...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
       > Subject: Off Topic --MISSING DOGS
       > Date: 1999/04/14
       >
       > I realize this has absolutely nothing to do with
       > Disney. Parks, but since those of us on this
       > newsgroup are from all over the country, I thought
       > you would understand this one time intrusion.  We
       > are desperate to find these dogs....Please, if you
       > have any information, contact the e-mail address
       > at the bottom of the note.  Thank you for your
       > understanding.........
       >
       > Karyl Parks' (aka diddler) dog Danny - Ch. Alpha's
       > Decorum (I think that is his correct registered name) is
       > missing .  For those that have never met Danny -
       > he is very special.  Both trained for Search and
       > Rescue

You'd think the dog could find his
own way back to his HOWES???

       > as well as service dog trained, CDX, etc.

But IT can't find ITS way back to his own HOWES?

       > He does all the things that service dogs do

Like run HOWET on his people and not return?

     > from opening doors, turning on lights, getting
     > clothes and shoes.

You FORGOT MURDERIN the vet's office kitty kat
and escaping and destructively chewing a rug and
gettin locked in a box in an HOWEtbuilding to muffle
his CRYING till he was ****IN BLOOD and went in
for intestinal obstruction.

       >  He is a marvel.

Naaah. You want a MARVEL? Marvel at that
STUPID KAT that PAINICKED when diddler
snared IT in her leg hold STRANGLE / CHOKE
choke trap. She'd have BLUDGEONED IT had
IT not been wearin a collar. Perhaps she was
lookin for a REWARD, bein a SUBSISTANCE
hunter and all.

       > He is nine years old but does not
       > show his age - he is about 60 pounds 22 1/2
       > inches, dark face.  By tomorrow I will have a
       > picture available.
       >
       > Monday night he was put out to do his business
       > along with Taya another elkie.  At 10:00pm - both
       > he and Taya were gone from Karyl's yard.
       >
       > She heard nothing and the gate was open but
       > opened inward.  Danny was neutered in the last
       > year so is not of any use to anyone for breeding.
       >
       > Karyl has handed out over 1,200 flyers today -
       > gone to the schools where Danny was well
       > known - he did demonstrations, talked to
       > neighbors and combed the neighborhood.
       >
       > She lives in farm
       > country outside Greenville, Ohio.
       >
       > Danny is a tall elkie - very handsome -
       > microchipped.  I am looking for a picture I took
       > when he visited here two years ago.  He was not
       > wearing a collar when lost. Karyl will talk to
       > postal workers, garbage truck drivers, county
       > road crews, meter readers, tomorrow - has
       > already contacted law enforcement and shelters.
       >
       > Please for anyone in the area or who can cross
       > post this to other lists do it.  This dog is Karyl's
       > life and she can not imagine life without him.
       >
       > Taya - also an elkhound her parents dog - spayed
       > female five years old.  Small size - I think only
       > about 18 inches.  They could be together or
       > separate  - Taya did have a collar on. Do not
       > know if she is microchipped.
       >
       > Karyl's email is kpa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
       >
       > Thank you for your understanding......we're
       > posting this to every list we are involved with
       > and pray for their safe return.

Ummm, better RETHINK THAT. Your PAL diddler
is a Satanist or somethin weird like that.

       > Kathy
       >
       > ==============================-===

          BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAA~!~!~!

You call tying the dog to a wall training, diddler, like
HOWE you trained your fence to train your dog?

diddy wrote:

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> We have a beagle. Before we got our last one, we knew
> what to expect and spent a year re-enforcing the fence.

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> What we did

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> Double fencing, hardware cloth lined on the inside. Wood ties
> under gates. A chicken wire apron extending out into the yard
> 12 inches. (hog ringed to the upright fencing). We chose chicken
> wire because it was flexible and ground conforming. grass grows
> right over it, making it invisible and easy to mow over. It's tacked
> down by tent stakes every 10 inches. (this is our most considerable
> investment)

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> The problems with it is that it eventually disintegrates, rusts, pulls
> apart and need repair a lot. We placed tile blocks over the top, because
> the tent stakes stick up, and sometimes get hit by the lawnmower.

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> Overall, it's a pretty decent system and works MOST of the time.

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> The beagle is persistent, and tends to work the inner fencing, that's
> flimsy down, or tear it, making exit holes. We recently cut down a
> couple yard trees that broke down sections of the fence and they need
> re-enforcement.

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> When the weather breaks, a whole new fence is in order,
> but the system works MOST of the time.

"I admit our system fails occasionally"

> We did install an underground perimeter E-fence at the fence line,
> and found a single strand 12 inch high electric cattle fence around
> the perimeter was just as effective, cheaper, less bothersome (no
> need to wear heavy e-collars.. especially that mess up coats), but
> both needed occassional maintenence.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> What we did.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> I admit our system fails occassionally, especially when snow drifts are
> over the top of the fences and erase any identifiable fenceline.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> We installed (BEFORE getting the beagle) a 100 foot
> trolly line that crosses the yard.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> This is a safe, effective restraint system that has always
>  worked when immediate repairs or extra security is desired.
> If I go away and leave the beagle outside. He goes to the trolly line,
> whether the containment system is currently working or not.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> It's great for emergency situations, and the $17 last resort system gets
> used for the beagle far more than I ever expected. It still allows
> reasonable exercise range of area and mobility. The elkhounds and the
> beagle still play avidly, and it's the cheapest piece of mind security
> ever.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> A trolly tether system is the best for tem****ary containment while
> discovering where the leak is. In the snow, it's easy to discover the
> leak. In the summer, it's more difficult.

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

> I do not like, or use our current underground collar system

"I admit our system fails occassionally"

         BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!

             BWEEEEAAAHAHAHAAAA~!~!~!

              BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

           BWEEEEAAAHAAAHAAAAHAAAA~!~!~!

From: diddy
Subject: Re: Dog chewing up floors
in thread news:aad9p2hg0aei5nijqludfvqhb8g1l0jsaj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <mmmtobler...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following
words:

> I, for one, am glad that the Puppy Wizard comes across
> as a complete loon given what his advice is since it
> makes it less likely that people will take it instead
> of the advice of someone else I think gives better advice.

For the record, The Puppy wizard over-rates himself.  But
"his" (tm) methods are pretty much tried and true methods
 that trainers have used and some still use today.

There are better methods out there now. But the ones posted
in his manual (now that he has removed the advice to SPIKE
a dog's temperature to dangerous levels) are sound. they work..
no matter what we  think of the puppy-wizard and  his packaging...
"his methods" <cough> are just as valid as anyone else's

"His methods" can stand some updating, and he definitely
needs to look at some repackaging.

Hopefully others add a slicker delivery to grab attention,
but truthfully, when you look at the cat fights that go on
here, and stand back and watch in perspective, it's rather
hard to determine the sane ones from the lunatics.

In fact, an awful lot of people here come off looking
rather tainted. A person needs to have a good filtering
device to sort out the noise.

TPW just has a problem that's too painfully obvious.


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         BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

HOWE COME would diddler set her INFORMATIVE posts to
EXXXPIRE in six days? Is she EMBARRASSED by her own
words, the lyin animal murderin punk thug coward mental
case fraud an SCAM ARTIST, like montana, professora
melanie chang, cindy title moore of k9web.com, matty
a.k.a. Rocky and not so happy, not so handsome, not
so gentle jackass, not even jack morrison, a.k.a. BIG
DADDY a.k.a. DOGMAN a.k.a. tommy sorenson of sorenson's
Retriever PUPPY MILL and SHOCK COLLAR SALES??

Are they EMBARRASSED by their own words, the lyin animal
murderin punk thug coward mental cases frauds an SCAM ARTISTS?

matty aka Rocky EXXXPLAINS HOWE COME:

"Rocky" <2d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
For reasons I'll only explain privately, I've gone no
archive, and it's a shame.  Once in a while, while
looking for something else, I'll run into an old post
of mine.  What an idiotic response!  Whoops.

            BWEEEAAAHAHAAAHAAHAAA!~!~!
 




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