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Re: English Bulldog aggression?

by "Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborator Oct 8, 2008 at 09:30 AM

HOWEDY matty you pathetic miserable stinkin
lyin animal abusin punk thug coward active
acute chronic life long incurable mental case
and professional illegal doggy day care FRAUD
an SCAM ARTIST,

"Rocky" <3dogs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:Fri9B30D3B9B302Faustralianshepherdca@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> A friend's English Bulldog,

"Birds of a feather. You're JUDGED BY the company
you keep. When you lie with pigs you'll awaken STINKIN
 like 'em," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY <{}: ~ ) >

> in the past month, has started snapping at people and
> other animals when touched/awoken when asleep.

Looks like IT has become BOSSYPANTSY, eh, matty?

ALL aggression is CAUSED BY FEAR. ALL
FEAR is CAUSED BY MISHANDLING <{}: ~ ( >

> Spayed female,

Surgical ***ual mutilation CAUSES fear aggression.

> 14 months old.

Ahhh, that's the traditional adolescent maturation
stage as defined by Scott & Fuller in "Genetics
And Social Developement" <{}: ~ ) >

>  So far, she has nipped at a cat when walked over,
> nipped at the primary owner when owner was rolling
> over in bed, and nipped at a friend of the owner when
> she touched her feet.

Yeah, that's pretty NORMAL for a fearful critter, matty:

From: BNTDOBES@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 jho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:26 PM

Subject: Re: THANKS ALISON! - "Owners Should Always
Be Given The Cold, Hard Facts: They Should NEVER FEEL
GUILTY For Having An Aggressive Dog Euthanized."

Dear Jerry,

It's Kay here. I don't know who these people are that
maligning you and your training manual but tell them
from me that it does work.

Hunter is just doing so well even the people who advocated
putting him down are impressed with him.

I even started using it with the neighbor's dog. I went over
there to help her cut his nails. She started yelling at him
for growling at me. I told her to tell him what a good boy he
is instead. Lo and behold he stopped growling and I could
do his nails.

All 4 feet.

My dog Hunter was trained with the old jerk and pull method
and my other dog was trained with treats. Hunter has gotten
his enthusiasm back for his training and I couldn't be more
pleased.

He even tried to kiss a child the other day.

Major break through.

This is the dog that a few months ago tried to eat the kids
through the fence. I can now take him in the car with me
again without him trying to chase cars through the wind****eld.

So Jerry tell these people that the first rule of dog training
is Do No Harm.

The 2nd rule is whatever works without breaking the first
rule.

Aggressive dogs don't need to be put down. Hunter was
diagnosed aggressive and he is going to stay alive and by
 my side where he belongs.

Thank you so much.
Kay

             -----------------

> All, apparently, when awoken from sleep.

Could be a touch of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder as a
result of your OBEDIENCE TRAININ, eh, matty<{}: ~ ( >

> I know this dog well,

Yeah. AS STATED: "Birds of a feather. You're JUDGED
 BY the company you keep. When you lie with pigs you'll
 awaken STINKIN like 'em," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY <{}: ~ ) >

> and have never seen any of this stuff.

"Familiarity breeds CONTEMPT," a Roman proverb.

>  My first recommendation is physical -

But of curse~! On accHOWENTA you DON'T KNOW
NUTHIN abHOWET the SCIENCE of BEHAVIOR <{}: ~ ( >

     HERE'S THE SCIENCE YOU FEAR AND HATE:

Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated At UofOH,
That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive Dogs Can Easily And
Readily Be Done Using TLC. Tender Loving Care Is At The
Root Of The Scientific Management Of Doggies.

"All animals learn best through play," Lorenz.

"Despite Skinner's clear denunciation of "negative
reinforcement" (1958) NEARLY EVER LEARNING
THEORY model involves the USE OF PUNISHMENT.
Of curse, Skinner has never to my knowledge, demonstrated
HOWE we escape the phenomenon that an expected
reward not received is experienced as a punishment
and can produce extensive and persistent aggression
(Azrin et al, 1966)."

B.F. Skinner: Re-evaluation of Punishment

Punishment, unfortunately traditionally overused,
actually has been proven not effective at long-
term behavioral change, and creatures will find
other ways of getting what it wants. In "Freedom
and the control of men" American Scholar, Winter
1955-56, 25, 47-65. 1956 he states:

If we no longer resort to torture in what we call
the civilized world, we nevertheless still make
extensive use of punitive techniques in both
domestic and foreign relations. And apparently for
good reasons. Nature if not God has created man
in such a way that he can be controlled punitively.

People quickly become skillful punishers (if not,
thereby, skillful controllers), whereas alternative
positive measures are not easily learned.

The need for punishment seems to have the sup****t
of history, and alternative practices threaten the
cherished values of freedom and dignity.

Fear involved with punishment causes frustration:
with typical results loathing, hostility and apathy.
Skinner's teaching on the superiority of posittive
reinforcement's benefits for keeping desired behavior
have proved very valuable."

"Postitive emotions arising in connection
with the perfection of a skill, irrespective
of its pragmatic significance at a given
moment, serve as the reinforcement. IOW,
emotions, not outside rewards, are what
reinforces any behavior," Ivan Pavlov.

In the followin SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH STUDY you may
substitute pronged spiked pinch or slip choke collars for shock
and add PUNISHMENT, SCOLDING, CRATING, and offering
and witholding rewards, attention, and affection:

Psychological Effects

At issue is the question, --Do electronic training
devices elicit psychological responses?

"This section cites several research studies in which the
psychological impact of the use of electronic training devices
was analyzed. It is difficult, at best, for anyone to determine
the full psychological effect of these devices or training methods
until we can agree on exactly what constitutes a stress signal in
a domestic dog. Not only do none of the researchers agree on
what it is, but it varies from dog to dog.

It is even more difficult for humans to determine the full effect
of shock on a dog (or any animal) due to the animal's hard-wired
need to hide pain in order to survive in the wild.

Training dogs with the help of the shock collar: Short and long
term behavioral effects. (Schilder, M. & van der Borga, J. (2004).
Applied Animal Behavior Science, 85, 319-334).

The goal of this study was to determine the behavioral changes in
dogs during training using electronic training collars. Thirty-two
dogs were divided into two groups, each receiving both general
obedience and protection training.

One group was trained with shock collars and the other group
without shock collars. The dogs trained with the shock collars
displayed signs of stress: lowering of body posture, high-pitched
yelps, barks and squeals, avoidance, redirected aggression, and
tongue flicking.

It was also noted by the authors that, even during play and relaxed
walking, the group of dogs trained with shock collars continued to
show signs of stress while in the company of their handler.

The authors concluded that shock-collar training is stressful;
receiving shocks is a painful experience to dogs; and the shock
group of dogs evidently learned that the presence of their owner
(or his commands) announced the reception of shocks, even
outside of the normal training context.

They suggest that the welfare of these shocked dogs
is at stake, at least in the presence of their owners.

This study has come under considerable fire because the experience
of the handlers and dogs is not clear, and the level of shock is not
stated. With that said, it does suggest that dogs are stressed by the
experience of being shocked during training.

            --------------------- 

"Motivation Of The Resistance To Coercion "-- PAVLOV

"Reflexes of purpose and freedom" in the comparative
physiology of higher nervous activity, Institute of
Higher Nervous Activity and Neurophysiology, Academy
of Sciences, Moscow:

The most complex unconditioned "reflexes of aim and
freedom," discovered by I.P. Pavlov, are compared
with the "competence drive" and the "motivation of the
resistance to coercion," respectively, described by
contem****ary ethologists.

On the basis of the unconditioned "reflex of purpose,"
conditioned reflexes were developed in which positive
emotions arising in connection with the perfection of
a skill, irrespective of its pragmatic significance at
a given moment, serve as the reinforcement.

The unconditioned "reflex of freedom" is regarded as a
phylogenetic precursor of the will, and its acute extinction
as the physiological mechanism of hypnosis. It was
demonstrated experimentally that the appearance of the
state of "animal hypnosis" (immobilization catatonia) in
rabbits is accompanied by the predominance of electrical
activity and heat production in the right hemisphere, i.e.,
by symptoms which are found in hypnosis in man.

Simonov PV</h4>
Publication Types:<ul><li>Review</li><li>Review,
tutorial</li></ul>PMID: 2215892, UI: 91015681</blockquote>
<doctype>

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=2215892&am
p;form=6&amp;db=m&amp;Dopt=bNeurosciBehavPhysiol1990May-Jun;
20(3):230-5

"...all the highest nervous activity, as it manifests
itself in the conditional reflex, consists of a continual
change of these three fundamental processes -- excitation,
inhibition and disinhibition," Ivan P. Pavlov

Author and professional dog trainer LeeCharlesKelley wrote:

Thanks, Jerry, that's a helpful bit from the guy
who started it all.  This shows what we've been
saying: that teaching the dog to play fetch,
regardless of its usefulness in the eventual
search part of the training program, is a
powerful motivator and reinforcer.

Of course these idiots (pardon my being blunt)
don't see using food and clickers as being a
form of coercion.  Maybe they've been hypnotized
by Karen Pryor, et al:

                   Freeze Frame <{}: ~ ) >

From: canis55 <cani...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 1999/09/28
Subject: Dear Marilyn Re. Ness

Dear Marilyn,

I just visited your updated site. The two Ness pages are great.
Freezing the video frames to reveal the emotional impact a
leash correction has on a dog was a wonderful idea.

Lee Kelley did something similar to a Brian Kilcommon video.

The difference is we were focusing on the emotional impact a
leash correction has on the trainer. When you do this to a training
 video you can clearly see the tremendous emotional charge some
of these trainers are getting from hurting dogs.

It's a strange business, this dog training. I wonder what motivates
any of us to engage in it. I'm suspicious of anyone who says they
do it because they love dogs. I know a lot of people who claim to
 love what dogs represent to them, and yet they don't become trainers.

 I don't think this is because they love something else more.

I think there is a difference between loving what dogs represent
 to us and loving what training them creates in us or even creates
 in them for that matter.

It's a complicated process and perhaps many of us have lost sight
 of what we're doing. I read books and articles that matter of factly
explain how to systematically inflict pain on dogs in an effort to
create a desire to perform tasks that I often see dogs performing of
their own accord. I know many of these behaviors can be shaped
 and encouraged to the same degree of reliability without all the
 violence and pain.

Where they can't (if that's the case), I wonder why we think
a dog should perform a task that is so repugnant to its nature,
that we must resort to violence and coercion to compel them
to participate.

Maybe I have far too much respect for dogs, but when I read
this stuff it sounds like slavery and involuntary servitude to me.

I can't see much difference between what we're doing to them
(for their own good) and what my country men did to the African
peoples for nearly half a century.

It's hard for me to accept that I'm surrounded by so much
 madness, but I have to go with my heart on this one. Most
of what we demand from dogs--if not all of it--will be offered
 willingly and enthusiastically if we only learn how to request
 it in a manner they can comprehend.

If it turns out that I have to attack a dog to get it to do or to not do
something, then maybe the dog isn't supposed to do what I think it
should.

The whole thing's so complicated that I can't really express it. I
just know I don't like some of the stuff I'm seeing or reading about.
-- 
I trains'em as I sees'em.

                        ---------------- 

"The IMBECILITY of some of the claims for operant
technique simply take the breath away. Lovas et al
(1966) re****t a standard contingent reward/punishment
procedure developing imitative speech in two severly
disturbed non verbal schizophrenic boys. After twenty-
six days the boys are re****ted to have been learning
new words with alacrity. HOWEver, when REWARDS
were moved to a delayed contingency the behavior and
learning immediately deteriorated.

Programs utilizing the "contingencies of reinforcement
model" proposed by Skinner (1963) are no more well
established in research than the various dynamic
therapists."

Research in four areas : 1) direct evaluation of
programmed systems for learning; 2) reinforcement;
3) cognitive dissonance; and 4) motivation, MOST
SURELY DEMOLISH the claims of operant programers."

"It is NO WONDER that the marked changes in
deviant behavior of children can be achieved
through brief, simple educative routines with
their mothers which modify the mother's social
behaviors shaping the child (Whaler, 1966).

Some clinics have re****ted ELIMINATION of the
need for child THERAPY through changing the
clinical emphasis from clinical to parental
HANDLING of the child (Szrynski 1965).

A large number of cases improved sufficiently after
preliminary contact with parents that NO treatment
of children was required, and almost ALL cases
SHOWE a remarkably shortened period for therapy.
Quite severe cases of anorexia nervosa have been
treated in own to five months by simply REPLACING
the parents tem****arily with EFFUSIVELY LOVING
SUBSTITUTES (Groen, 1966)."

A. S. Neill, The Famous Founder of The Summerhill
School, Used To Cure Delinquent Children Way Back
In The 1950's By Paying Them For Every Time They
Wet The Bed Or Broke A Pane Of Glass And Their
Behaviour Would Stop, - As If By MAGICK!

The Embry Study:
"While some may find it strange that reprimands
might increase the chances of a child going into
the street, the literature on the experimental analysis
of behavior is replete with examples of how "attention
to inappropriate behavior" increases the chances of
more inappropriate behavior.

Thus, suggestions to parents that they talk to or reason
with their children about da****ng into the street will
likely to have the opposite impact.

Reprimands do not punish unsafe behavior; they reward it."

Source:

"Reducing the Risk of Pedestrian Accidents to
Preschoolers by Parent Training and Symbolic
Modeling for Children: An Experimental Analysis
in the Natural Environment. Research Re****t
Number 2 of the Safe-Playing Project."

                     ---------------------------- 

> making sure there's no health reasons for such a reaction.

The primary "health reasons" for FEAR AGGRESSION is
THYROID problems. THYROID PROBLEMS are CAUSED
BY STRESS from MISHANDLING, TOXIC VETERINARY
 MALPRACTICES, and GARBAGE COMMERCIAL DIETS <{}: ~ ( >

> Meanwhile, I told the owner that there should
> be no interaction at all with kids and elders

On accHOWENTA you AIN'T GOT NO IDEA HOWE
to pupperly EXXXTINGUISH fear aggression <{}: ~ ( >

> and that the dog should be crated at night
> in the bedroom instead of on the bed.

Ahhh, "CRATE BONDING"~!:

Re: New to us Pup, Tomorrow!
"cshenk" <cshe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

> "montana wildhack" wrote

>> You may want to move the crate into your bedroom.
>> Being "near" and "next to" are very different things.

> Actually I would if I could, but there isnt room.

Make room, even if the dresser or a side table has to go
away for a while.  This is an im****tant bonding time.
-- 
--Matt.  Rocky's a Dog.

                        --------------------------

> And no touching while the dog is asleep.

IOW, you GOT NO INFORMATION, NO
 METHODS, NO NUTHIN, eh, matty??

> Ie: management while she gets a handle on her dog.

THAT'S INSANE, matty; "MANAGEMENT ALWAYS FAILS":

Re: Dog Whisperer Week on National Geographic
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006

"Handsome Jack Morrison" <handsomejackmorri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message news:i222d25gibj3sdv85pg8u370e4m4ap1v10@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 again, "****" happens.

It's possible to avoid "****" from happening altogether,
by never doing anything, but that doesn't help dogs very
much, does it?

But as some folks are wont to say: "Management
always fails."

It'll fail for you one day, too. And I bet it already
has, probably many times, in fact.

The more dogs you try to manage, the more
things you try to do, the more times it'll fail.

Because I've see too much "****" actually happen,
and know that it's impossible to totally prevent.

"****" has happened a number of times just today, at
my place, because someone simply forgot to do what
he was supposed to do. He's done it correctly, oh,
maybe a thousand times now, but today he didn't, and
"****" happened.

Actually, you should feel pretty good about the fact "
that he actually shows "****" happening on his show.

                   -------------- 

lying frosty dahl wrote:

"My behaviorist friend says, however, that "management
always fails." "my aggression-specialist friend has a maxim:
"management always fails."

                       -------------------- 

             BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

> What do y'all think?

I think your PAL will MURDER this dog, matty <{}: ~ ( >

       "A Cheerful Heart Is Good Medicine, But
         A Crushed Spirit Dries Up The Bones,"
                 Proverbs 17:22

Disciple Paulie Sez:

"No One Understands How Wits End Training
Really Works; They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey
And don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method
That Deals With Any Situation  And The Foundation
Is Built On Trust And Understanding.

I've never forced my dogs to do anything,
I tell them they are good dogs and they
seem to follow me,  onceI told them they
were bad dogs and they ran away from me,
now I only ever tell them they are good dogs
and they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do  your request and say
"good dog" sincerely at the end of the request and
I bet you'll find your dog thinking then responding
everytime.

          A Bit Of Respect Works Wonders,
             The Same Rule Applies
              To Every Aspect Of
         The Relation****p With Your Dog.

     Obedience And Affection Are Not Related,
         if They Were Everyone Would Have
                Obedient Dogs.

I Have Found Giving Dogs  "Payment" In Advance i.e.
"Sam sit goodboy" Makes The Dogs WANT TO RESPOND,
After All, All Dogs Want To Be "Good Dogs" And If
You Tell Them They Are Good Then They Feel An
Obligation To Obey Your Request.

Telling Sam He's A Good Dog AFTER He Sit's
Apart From Being Too Late Is Also A Gamble
Because If He Doesn't Sit Then There's No
Positive Interaction.

Paul

                       ------------------------- 

Here's a professional dog trainer of thirty years experience:

From: BNTDO...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 jho...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Monday, June 03, 2002 2:22 PM
Subject: Update

Hi Jerry,

Just an update to let you know how things are going.
Hunter is doing really great thanks to you and your
training manual.

I cancelled the appointment with the new vet to get
him re-evaluated for aggression. all weekend long I
had kids run by the fence to try and make him bark.

He didn't!

Tonight we are going to PetsMart to work on his
dog aggression but even that is going good for him.
I have less and less of a problem with him in my
vehicle. He doesn't try so hard to protect
it from the four wheeled monsters that go by.

I think soon I'll be able to leave his window open when
we go down the road and he won't try to jump out at
the cars that go by.

I have shared the manual with several dog owners
that I know and even a group of dog trainers.

Thank you again.

Kay

                       ----------------

Here's an SAR trainer of twenty years EXXXPERIENCE:

From: Mike (m.bidd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST

> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike

> Ok Mike which part worked for you?

It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.

Works like a charm.

My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.

Sorry that slipped my mind.

I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.

Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.

Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.

Seemed he learned through osmosis.

Nice side benefit there.

It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.

I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.

I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.

I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.

Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.

Mike

                     -------------

ANY temperament or behavior problem that's IGNORED,
AVOIDED, or REPRESSED will only CHANGE to other
temperament and behavior problems as replacement or
TRAINsfer behavior anxiHOWESNESS relief mechanisms.

      Abuse / Fear / Aggression / Hyperactivity / Shyness /
    Depression / Suicide Attempts AIN'T Genetic Problems,
                They're SPIRITUAL PROBLEMS,
     Passed On From WON GeneratiHOWEN Of Abuser
                             To The Next,
      Like The 100th Monkey Wa****n Fruit In The Stream.

             After A While It's Not Just NORMAL, It's
                           -OBLIGATORY-

                   To Do OtherWIZE Would Be
                          DISRESPECTFUL
                    Of Your Parental Teachins.

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                      as separate, not the wise.

        If any man knows one, he enjoys the fruit of both.

             The level which is reached by wisdom
                            is attained
                 through right action as well.

      He who perceives that the two are one knows the truth."

      "Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
      indeed all creatures act according to their natures.

           What is the use of compulsion then?

            The love and hate which are aroused
          by the objects of sense arise from Nature,
                   do not yield to them.
               They only obstruct the path," -
                   - Bhagavad Gita,
            adapted by Krishna with permission
            from His OWN FREE copy of The Simply
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            Dog Training Method manual <{) ; ~  )   >

        ALL Temperament And Behavior Problems Are
                   CAUSED BY MISHANDLING

                                SEE?

Aggression, destructive behavior, self-mutilation /
paw licking, fear of thunder, separation anxiety, car
sickness, leash pulling, ALL obsessive compulsive
disorders and 90% of ALL DIS-EASE are CAUSED
 BY STRESS from the use of REPRESSIVE ALPHA-
DUMINANCE IDIOCY / ABUSE, N.I.L.I.F. / offering
and witholding bribes a.k.a. clicker training, crating,
surgical ***ual mutilation, and fear force and intimidation
devices like pronged collars / head halters, shock devices,
aversive sprays etc., therefore they CAN BE EXXXTINGUISHED NEARLY
INSTANTLY 
simply by DOIN EVERY THING
EXXXACTLY PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE you've
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to name a few, and captain arthur haggerty *(R.I.P. captain
[he died while SUING me for defamation, slander, and of all
things, EMOTIONAL DISTRESS~!]) <{}:*~ ( >

Of curse there's PLENTY of folks who WON'T LIKE what I
teach, as it NULIFIES THEIR LIVES. HOWEver apupriate
handling and training IS a LIFE or DEATH critteria of
ETHICAL BREEDING, MORALS and PRINCIPALS.

My feeling as a trainer is First Do No Harm. I try to
make sure I only teach and use methods that even in
the hands of a completely un-dog-savvy person could
 not possibly harm a dog. THAT'S HOWE COME I'm
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Just follow the instructions PRECISELY and ASK me if
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You'll likeWIZE find ETHICAL nutrition and heelth
care practices taught on the heelth page *(last link
on the left side) of my website.

 From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
 To: "The Puppy Wizard"
 <ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
 Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM

 Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
 Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

 I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
 and now must applaud your attempts to save
 animals from painful training procedures.

 You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent­,
 who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts ­to
 alert the world to animal abuse.

 We are lucky to have you, and more people should
 come to their senses and sup****t your valuable
 work.

 Have you thought of establi****ng a nonprofit
 charity to fund your im****tant work?

 Have you thought about holding a press conference
 so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
 and significant work?

 In closing, my only suggestion is that you
 try to keep your messages short for most
 readers may refuse to read a long message
 even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
 I wish you well in your endeavors.

 --Marshall Dermer

        "The day may come when the rest of
               the animal creation
             may acquire those right
   which never could have been withholden from them
           but by the hand of tyranny.

        The question is not can they REASON,
               nor can they TALK,
              but can they SUFFER?"  -
               - Jeremy Bentham

          ANY QUESTIONS, People?

                "Ye shall know the truth,
           and the truth shall make you mad." -
                   ~Aldous Huxley.

          All Truth P***** Through Three Stages.
                First, It Is Ridiculed.
           Second, It Is Violently Opposed.
      Third, It Is Accepted As Being Self-Evident
                -Arthur Schopenhauer-

         "Thank you for fighting the fine fight-- 
             even tho it's a hopeless task,
               in this system of things.
             As long as man is ruling man,
          there will be animals (and humans!)
               abused and neglected. :-(
               Your student," Juanita.

         "If you've got them by the balls their
             hearts and minds will follow,"
                    John Wayne.

     "Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
     "Against stupidity the Gods themselves contend in vain!"
                 -Friedrich Schiller.

                      INDEEDY.

          AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!

                   In Love And Light,
          I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours
            The WORLD'S CRUELEST Trainer,
                     Jerry Howe,
      The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
                    A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
                  *M-A-J-E-S-T-I-C*
                    *G-R-A-N-D*
                   *M-A-S-T-E-R*
    Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Ferret, Goat, Monkey
          SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ;~ ) >

            HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >

Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092 (Call ANY TIME)
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard

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