HOWEDY suja you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin
animal murderin active acute chronic life-long incurable
malignant maliciHOWES mental case and SHELTER /
RESCUE FRAUD an SCAM ARTIST,
"Suja" <spanaval@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> I have three dog beds, a chaise, and of course, there is our bed.
> The two dogs are *never* found on a bed (or anywhere else for
> that matter) in any position that would have them touching each
> other.
INDEED? That's QUEER, AIN'T IT, suja:
Dr. Von wrote:
Unconditional Acceptance, Love, Approval are a positive
reinforcement of good feelings and reinforce groupness.
What your critics do not realize is that all free dogs live
in packs all heaped up together, touching each other closely,
or sniffing and barking happily or working tracking and
chasing down prey.
All loving groups are continually rewarding each
other with "good brother/sister" sounds and smells.
I can send you a bibliography of hundreds, nay,
thousands of papers which prove that scaring,
hurting, startling, demeaning, puni****ng animals
deranges behavior.
NEGATIVE means NO! Freshmen frequently make
the error that negative reinforcement is aversive
reinforcement, no, its NO reinforcement.
Aversive reinforcement includes choking, kicking,
biting, shocking, abrading, alpha rolling and other
sadistic behaviors. AVERSIVE reinforcement always
deranges behavior.
Neither paramecia nor dogs ever forget.
Dr. Von
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
> My gut feeling is that it's Khan who is touch averse,
Oh??
THAT'S on accHOWENTA you've ABUSED him, suja.
> and Pan wouldn't care one way or the other.
Same same, suja. Your own "beast friend" raised Pan
with benefit of YOUR OWN FREE ADVICE and had
to GET RID OF IT on accHOWENTA IT WOULDN'T
stop GOIN INSANE on her <{}: ~ ( >
LUCKY thing *you* was there to TAKE IT for FREE <{}'; ~ ) >
> Khan just about always lies down on the floor, using
> the bed only when he's awake and looking out the
> window (two of the beds are right below the window,
> and he can sit on it and put his head on the window
> sill easily), and more often than not, you'll find half
> his head squished under the bed frame, which I don't
> know how he manages, 'cause it is so low to the ground.
He's HIDING from you, suja.
<snip idiocy>
BOTH your dogs are DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-
IMMUNE DIS-EASES a.k.a. The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome:
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.health
From: "Suja" <spana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:08:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Long-term antibiotic use
"Melinda Shore" <sh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message:
> But again, that's one dog and
> one story.
If we add up enough dog stories, it will eventually amount to data, right?
Actually, I'm just kinda hoping to hear enough encouraging stories that I
can
make a call without much and-wringing.
Beyond the skin issues (not uncommon in Cush pups), we are seeing a little
bit of recurrence of his leakage issues as well as some hind-end weakness,
so we're due for a work-up anyways. I am really, really hoping that his
Tennessee panel comes back fine and urine specific gravity is in the
normal
range as well, because Lysodren (need to check with the endocrinologist on
whether Trilostane is an option) is the next possible step, and I really
don't want to go there unless absolutely necessary. He is not exactly a
sick dog, and I don't really want to have to put him through a protocol
that
makes him ill before making him better.
I was also hoping to get a consult in with the holistic vet so that I can
talk to the regular vet about those options as well (figures that just for
this week, they have weird hours and are closed today and open for a short
time only tomorrow).
Suja
From: "The Puppy Wizard" <ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:56:40 GMT
Subject: Re: HUGE mistake (looong)
HOWEDY suja,
"Suja" <spana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> We had something of a miserable experience this weekend,
Well GOOD FOR YOU!
> and I am still beating myself up over it.
You EARNED the RIGHT, suja. ENJOY!
> Remember the Malamute girl that I pointed
> out last week? Well, we went to meet her
> and she was just about as sweet as a dog
> could be, so we decided to adopt her.
That's too bad, suja. A dog doesn't DESERVE
to be ABUSED by a punk thug coward mental
case like you.
> One big problem.
Having dogs is NOT a PROBLEM, suja, so
long as you ain't ABUSING them.
> From the word go, Khan was not happy with her,
Your dog Khan broke your arm bolting after a critter.
Your dog Khan has ALWAYS been FEAR AGGRESSIVE.
> stiffening if she came anywhere near him,
Oh? You could break that REAL EZ if you knew
HOWE, suja. You don't. You only know HOWE
to PUNISH INTIMIDATE and AVOID behaviors
of the domestic puppy dog you don't have the
INTELLECT to HOWEtwit even after The Puppy
Wizard and all HIS NEARLY INSTANTLY 100%
SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual Students told you HOWE
they done it EZ GENTLY FAST and FOR FREE.
BWEEEEHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> and growling at her under his breath.
Oooooh, SCARY!
> We thought we could work things out if we
> introduced them slowly,
BWEEEEAAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> because Khan has never actually been aggressive
> towards another dog,
That's a flat HOWET lie, suja.
> and this girl seemed to be friendly enough,
Till you started intimidating her.
> as she tried to paw him, and was wagging her tail
> the whole time. She also did the same thing to every
> other dog that came near her.
Yeah... as dogs will do.
> Came home and kept the two dogs separated.
To make them FRIENDS.
> Khan's attitude had not improved,
Of curse not.
> but I didn't notice any provocation from the girl dog.
RIGHT! That's probably cause your medications
were givin you the brain freezes.
> Walked them around the yard,
Did you have the hose ready? tara o. aka tee
recommends you have the hose ready.
> with the two of us walking in opposite directions
> so we would pass each other briefly, closing the
> distance,
Oh? Kinda like HOWE it sez to do in your FREE
copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual.
> and the first chance she got, girl dog
> put her head on his shoulder.
It don't say to do THAT in your FREE copy of
The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End
Dog Training Method Manual.
> But, the leashes were barely within reach,
The leashes were barely within reach of WHAT???
The leashes are supposed to be handled pupperly
in your HANDS so the dogs can be CONTROLLED
withHOWET pullin on them, suja.
> the dogs were separated,
Oh. You didn't follow the INSTRUCTIONS
in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wtis' End Dog Training Method
Manual, suja. You can't get HOWET not followin
the INSTRUCTIONS cause you'll have a ACCIDENT.
> and we continued on.
Yeah... didn't you.
> Then, Khan noticed her peeing, and absolutely
> insisted on marking on top. She came back and
> marked on top of him, and I started getting a
> little knot in the stomach.
You been takin your psychotropics with a little food, suja?
> We tried crating the girl dog,
To cause BARRIER FRUSTRATION SYNDROME, suja?
> but she busted out of it as soon as Khan tried to
> walk past it.
Cause the BARRIER makes dogs AGGRESSIVE.
Ask tara o. aka tee. That's HOWE COME her DEAD
DOG Summer became FEAR AGGRESSIVE of small
children and GOT MURDERED.
> No contact made, because we were both right there.
You mean to hurt and intimidate them, suja.
> This was getting a little tiring, so I took Khan
> out to the dog park. Came back in a couple of
> hours later, but called DH and told him to make
> sure he had a hold of girl dog.
Oh? You mean to RESTRAIN her. That'll cause
"CHAINED DOG SYNDROME," same same as
BARRIER FRUSTRATION, suja. That's HOWE
attack dog trainers TRAIN dogs to ATTACK.
> He assured me that he had.
Yeah... GOOD LUCK!
> Khan was walking past DH and girl dog when
> the girlie slipped DH's Khan and jumped on Khan.
You mean "slipped DH's GRASP and jumped on khan."
Perhaps your meds need ROTATING, eh suja?
> Then, she grabbed him by his scruff. Khan just
> completely stiffened and was letting out loud growls,
> but didn't move an inch.
That's on accHOWENT of he was expecting you
to abuse the ***** for him...
> DH managed to pull her off his neck,
Good for him!
> but she got him on his ear.
Yeah. That'll happen when you mishandle your dogs.
That's HOWE COME EVERY THING IS PRECISE
in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual.
> By then, he had turned around, and they went at it.
Cause you and DH FAILED to PROTECT HIM.
> It seemed to last an eternity,
Yeah, don't it???
THAT'S HOWE COME WE DON'T DO THAT.
> and although we both had both of the dogs by their
> rear end and pulling as hard as we could, neither dog
> was willing to let go.
BRILLIANT!
> Finally managed to get them away, and girl dog
> made one final lunge for Khan's leg. Khan looked
> unscathed, except for limping on his already bum leg.
BWEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> She had a torn lower lip on the left side and was
> bleeding a bit.
WONDERFUL!
> We took her in to the emergency vet (Saturday night),
> and they kept her overnight as they needed to put her
> under to suture her lip.
BWEEEEHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!
Another couple hundred bucks dHOWEN the crapper, eh suja?
> As soon as we got home, we checked Khan out,
> and he had a bite wound on the top of his neck, a
> tear in his ear, a couple of scratches on his muzzle,
So back to the emergency vets for a other couple
hundred bucks of WASTED MONEY.
> and a small, but pretty deep wound in his leg.
Yeah... better get that treated or it'll INFECT.
> He went to the vet yesterday,
Good for you, suja.
> and checked out more or less okay.
MOORE or less?
> I spoke with a bunch of dog people,
BWEEEAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> trainers,
You mean DOG ABUSERS, suja.
> a couple of breed rescuers,
Like yourself or tara o. aka tee?
> etc. and all of them agreed that the prognosis
> for this whole thing working out is not good.
BWEEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
THAT'S CAUSE THEY'RE FRAUDS, suja.
> They pretty much said that given enough time
> and space, they may come around to the point
> where they can peacefully coexist under supervision,
THAT'S INSANE.
> but we may never be able to leave them alone.
CAUSE THEY GOT NO MEHTODS TO TRAIN A DOG, suja.
> Apparently, the fact that this was initiated by the
> newcomer and not by the existing dog might actually
> mean that the problem could worsen over time,
BWEEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
THAT'S IDIOCY.
> as the new dog settles in.
Those FRAUDS and DOG ABUSERS you're listening
to PLAN TO FAIL IN ADVANCE... shameful, suja.
> There really was no way to tell if it would ever get better,
Well, it ain't gonna GET better withHOWET trainin.
> and considering how miserable Khan was,
He GOT like that from YOU ABUSING him.
> we decided that the best thing for both dogs was
> to return her before we all got overly attached to each
> other.
Like she got attached to Khan.
> The good news is that she attended an adoption day yesterday,
INDEEDY. That was fortunate that they didn't
MURDER HER for being aggressive.
> and was adopted out to someone with a slightly
> smaller female Husky.
BWEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> The two ladies appear to have hit it off (resident
> dog jumped on her, and she seemed fine with it),
THAT'S CAUSE YOU WASN'T THERE TO ABUSE THEM, suja.
> and they were even eating from the same bowl at home.
As she would have with Khan, if you wasn't ABUSING them.
> I realize that we got caught completely flat footed on this one.
AS PER USUAL. Like HOWE you done when Khan
broke your arm bolting after a critter.
> Khan is generally quite good at letting us know
> when he is okay with another dog
YEAH. HE DOESN'T FOAM AT THE MHOWETH.
> and when he isn't,
Cause his eyes glaze over and he foams at the mHOWETH.
> and we chose to ignore the biggest possible red flag
You mean, that you're an incompetent handler and
a dog abuser and a goddamned MENTAL CASE?
> because we were so enamored of the girl dog
It's ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE for a ***** and a dog
to NOT get along as FRIENDS. This ***** got
along with another ***** the following day cause
the PEOPLE weren't ABUSING THEM.
> (she has just the loveliest personality).
LUCKY THING you couldn't keep her, you'd
RUIN HER for SHORE, just like HOWE you
done Khan.
> Quite an expensive mistake,
EXXXPENSE? The DOGS got HURT, suja.
> as it turned out,
YOU shoulda got hurt instead.
> but it would really be a complete waste if we
> learn nothing from it.
BWEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
What'd you LEARN from it, suja? LOCK THE DOGS
IN A TIGHTER BOX someMOORE??
> What could we have done differently?
BWEEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> How should all this have been handled?
It's ALL in your FREE copy of The Puppy Wizard's
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,
suja. You know, the WON you tell foks not to TRUST.
> If there is ever a next time (and right now, we
> are strongly leaning towards never,
Cause Khan WON'T ALLHOWE it.
BWEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> content to have a single dog and visiting dogs),
> I don't want us to repeat any of the mistakes we
> have made.
"He that will not apply new remedies, must expect
new evils." Francis Bacon (1561-1626); English
philosopher, essayist, statesman.
> Suja
BWEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!
Subject: HUGE MISTAKE!
HOWEDY suja,
"Suja" <spana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Gwen Watson wrote:
> > I am sure you did say the two dogs were introduced
> > away from your property at first.
>
> Yup. At Petsmart.
<snip>
> That was one of the biggest mistakes we made.
Your BIGGEST mistake was HURTING your dogs
to train them, suja. You're a DOG ABUSER. THAT'S
HOWE COME Khan broke your arm bolting after a
critter. Ain't it.
> Not listening to Khan.
BWEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!
YOUR DOG TELLS YOU HOWE TO LIVE, suja?
Is that some funky Hindu tradition?
<snip>
> Absolutely. Kind of ironic -
Yeah. Kinda ironic.
> Khan has met and gotten along with literally
> 100s of dogs since we've had him.
INDEED? Perhaps I MISSED that in your own
POSTED CASE HISTORY, eh, suja??
> Other than minor skirmishes
BWEEHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
Yeah, that's the nice part abHOWET bein
a dog abuser. You never know WHEN your
dog is gonna GO NUTS.
> (from accidental stepping on and such), he has
> never had a problem with another dog.
EXXXCEPT for a few skirmishes...
> Not even with the 1 year old unneutered male
> Malamute that would not leave him alone.
Well, it's QUEER that he fought with a *****, ain't it.
Perhaps you didn't threaten and intimidate him enough
this time, suja?
THA'TS HOWE COME DOGS FIGHT.
> Just figures that the one dog he wouldn't get along
> with is the one dog we really, really liked.
Yeah. No harm done, just a few hundred
bucks wasted at the vet. The dogs don't
mind GETTIN HURT, they're USED TO IT.
> Suja
BWEWEEHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
BWEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!
BEWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
HOWEDY suja you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin animal murderin
active acute chronic long term incurable mental case and SHELTER /
RESCUE FRAUD an SCAM ARTIST,
"Suja" <spanaval@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>
> "Melinda Shore" <shore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message:
>
>> Option 3.
>
> That's the best of all the options. Pan does that too,
> except it is when she sits for breakfast/dinner.
Both your dogs are DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-
IMMUNE DIS-EASES a.k.a. The Puppy Wizard's Syndrome <{}: ~ ( >
>> You know, I just don't encounter all that many people who have
>> a genuine interest in the functioning of my dogs' digestive systems.
That's pretty normal here abHOWETS <{}: ~ ( >
> You ought to come hang out at our dog park, then. We all
> end up being interested, 'cause the two min-pins have the
> deadliest farts.
THAT'S caused by STRESS and commercial garbage diets.
> One wouldn't think that a 7 pound and a 10 pound dog
> would be capable of producing such deadly gas, but one
> would be very wrong on all accounts.
Oh, you mean like HOWE you an your pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal muderin punk thug coward mental case pals are
WRONG abHOWET EVERY THING?
>> It surprises me a bit that Slick isn't a gassy dog at all,
>> at least not as it's generally understood, yet every time
>> he does a can-in-the-air stretch there's inevitably a little poot.
Perhaps he's COMMUNICATING?
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> Sleeping somehow causes a little gas to be trapped near the exit?
Yeah. It's called a FART.
> Wonder why?
You mean you wonder HOWE COME. The REASON HOWE COME
is the same reason your dog has PAINcreatitis and Cu****ngs <{}: ~ ( >
> Suja
HOWEDY suja,
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 12:24:03 -0500,
Suja <spana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> You all are probably aware of our ongoing efforts
> to get Khan to be 'normal' with people.
BWWWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
We also are aware you've been broken up behind your
out of control dog, as was carol levie and lush...
> Someone at the dog park (Ms. Jaws' dad Steve for
> those who've seen the pics)
Naah, I don't often visit dog abusers websites to look at pics...
> has been trying for a very long time now to
> be friends with him, with very little success.
And you can't make your dog FRIENDLY, suja, cause you HURT him.
> In fact, he was pretty bummed that Khan would be okay with perfect
> strangers but not with him,
Well, that's YOUR fault, not the dog's, suja. We don't blame
DOGS noMOORE for the HANDLER'S VICIOUSNESS.
> whom he had been seeing on a regular basis for the past year or so.
BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
ENJOY YOUR PROBLEMS, suja.
You're a PUNK, a LIAR, and a DOG ABUSE and THAT'S
HOWE COME your dog is OUT OF CONTROL, suja. It's
YOUR fault for not listening to Jerry.
> Over this past weekend, we left Khan with Ms. Jaws
> and her parents for 3 days while we visited my parents in NY.
Yeah. Our dog lovers have no problem imposing their out
of control dogs on their innocent friends and neighbors.
> This was a trial run,
BWWWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> 'cause they've volunteered to take care of him when we go on vacation.
Perhaps they FEEL SORRY for the lousy deal you give your dog, suja?
> I was really worried that he would be impossible to deal with,
That's the hallmark of our dog abusers, suja. They're BORN COWARDS.
Only COWARDS HURT animals and children...suja.
> and worse that he'd be traumatized by being forced into
> having close contact with someone he was afraid of.
BWWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> As it turns out, they spent an inordinate amount of time
> with the dogs during those days.
Yeah. Didn't have no LUCK? Tough break, eh suja???
> Steve took a day off on Friday just for Khan, tookhim on extra long
> walks and jogs, took him to a 'bone hunt' (where Steve actually had
> to find a milkbone for Khan who was busy sniffing other dogs) as
> well as the dog park. Apparently he got to meet a ton of people at
> the 'bone hunt' and allowed pretty much everyone to pet him ->YAY!
THAT'S because YOU weren't there to MISHANDLE him, suja.
> We picked up one tired pooch on Sunday, and he seemed
> quite ticked off at us (especially DH) for the next couple of days.
IMAGINE??? That's VERY unusual, suja. I've boarded dogs for
many years and NEVER have seen what you and our regular
liars and dog abusers see EVERY DAY.
You're PATHETIC, suja.
> Whenever DH came home, he would look past him as if he were
> expecting someone else, and turn around and walk off, a little dejected.
BWWWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> Because of the yucky weather we had been having,
Yeah, I'm lookin forward to a LONG COLD SPELL (no pun intended)
to blockade you and our PALS indoors with all that pent up energy
from WITHDRAWALS from their EXERCISE ADDICTION you
RELY on to CONTROL your dog's OUT OF CONTROL behaviors.
> we didn't get to see his fosters until yesterday.
Ahhh! THAT EXPLAINS IT, suja. That's HOWE COME I NEVER
allow a FORMER OWNER to see their dog AFTER they've found
a new HOWES, suja.
It OFTEN PROVOKES an ATTACK on the NEW OWNER.
That'd be YOU and "dh," in this case. GOOD LUCK!
This "PHENOMENAE" lasts USUALLY just 3 DANGEROUS DAYS.
> Khan was sooo thrilled to see Steve.
INDEED. The AGGRESSION usually follows after they LEAVE.
> He actually ran up to the gate while he was entering, and waited for
pets!
Dogs have INCREDIBLE memories, sjua, UNLIKE what our "EXPERST"
believe. Let's face it suja, you've been MISLED and LIED to by our
incompetent lying dog abusing Thugs, sjua. Not surprising you're
university people...
BWWWHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! GOOD LUCK!!!
> Then, he'd come up periodically just to say hi to him,
> with a big old goofy grin on his face.
Did that make you and dh JEALOUS, suja?
It should, you're only NORMAL..
BWWWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
> Needless to say,
YEAH. NEEDLESS TO SAY.
> Steve is thrilled! I'm thrilled! Khan is happy!
> DH is less than thrilled (he's feeling a little jealous) ;-)
Yeah? What did I just say? I rarely read ahead.. I KNOW my business.
> The down side to all this is that Steve used to be able to get him to
> run. Now, if he is just sitting around and Steve tries to get him up
> and running, Khan just gives him the 'I'm not gonna run from you' look.
Huh?
> YAY!
Yay?
>Suja
I'm lookin forward to MOORE re****ts about your SUCCESS, suja.
LIKE THIS:
Subject: HUGE MISTAKE!
HOWEDY suja,
"Suja" <spana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Gwen Watson wrote:
> > I am sure you did say the two dogs were introduced
> > away from your property at first.
> Yup. At Petsmart.
<snip>
> That was one of the biggest mistakes we made.
Your BIGGEST mistake was HURTING your dogs
to train them, suja. You're a DOG ABUSER. THAT'S
HOWE COME Khan broke your arm bolting after a
critter. Ain't it.
> Not listening to Khan.
BWEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!
YOUR DOG TELLS YOU HOWE TO LIVE, suja?
Is that some funky Hindu tradition?
<snip>
> Absolutely. Kind of ironic -
Yeah. Kinda ironic.
> Khan has met and gotten along with literally
> 100s of dogs since we've had him. Other
> than minor skirmishes
BWEEHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
Yeah, that's the nice part abHOWET bein
a dog abuser. You never know WHEN your
dog is gonna GO NUTS.
> (from accidental stepping on and such), he has
> never had a problem with another dog.
EXXXCEPT for a few skirmishes...
> Not even with the 1 year old unneutered male
> Malamute that would not leave him alone.
Well, it's QUEER that he fought with a *****, ain't it.
Perhaps you didn't threaten and intimidate him enough
this time, suja?
THA'TS HOWE COME DOGS FIGHT.
>Just figures that the one dog he wouldn't
> get along with is the one dog we really,
> really liked.
Yeah. No harm done, just a few hundred
bucks wasted at the vet. The dogs don't
mind GETTIN HURT, they're USED TO IT.
> Suja
BWEWEEHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!
BWEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!
BEWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
Subject: Severe Speration Anxiety..Please Help!
From: The Puppy Wizard
HOWEDY suja,
"Suja" <spana...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Brandy Kurtz wrote:
> > Hello everyone! We have a 2 1/2 year old
> > male dog, and he suffers from severe
> > seperation anxiety.
>
> Got one of those.
Yeah. Your dog Khan also is fear aggressive
and attacked that new opposite *** "rescue"
Malamute you SAVED from the shelter and
brought to the emergency HOWEspital.
> Her previous owner attempted desensitization,
That so?
> but it didn't work initially.
SHAAAZZZAAAMMM?
> The program worked *much* better when
> they used it in conjunction with Clomicalm,
Did it really NHOWE?
> and they were able to wean her off her meds.
That so?
> Unfortunately, a change in her mom's routine
> (that's how she ended up with me) brought it back,
Oh...
> although not nearly as severely.
You mean cause you lock IT in a box.
> She does infinitely better when she is left
> with another dog than by herself, and that's
> what we do now.
You mean instead of pupperly training IT.
> You might want to talk to a vet and
> a behaviorist (preferably a veterinary
> behaviorist, who can prescribe medications
BWEEEEEHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!
That's INSANE. IT DIDN'T WORK for your own dog.
> if necessary
The Amazing Puppy Wizard just sez "NO!" to drugs.
> and introduce a behavior modification
> protocol) to get a handle on this.
You think? You think that'll heelp with
Khan's fear aggression problems?
> > P.S. Plus he yanks and pulls when
> > he is on the leash, I actually had to
> > wear a brace on my wrist because
> > I sprained it while walking him.
That ain't NUTHIN. suja broke her arm
when her dog bolted after an innocent
critter and pulled her DHOWEN.
> If I can walk a 90 and 120 lbs dog on-leash by myself,
Not withHOWET hurtin them and breakin yourself.
> I'm sure you can walk your dog without
> getting yanked all over the planet.
That so? Like HOWE you did it? Fallin
to the grHOWEND stopped your dog
Kahn from pullin you all over the planet.
> Enroll in a good obedience training course,
Like HOWE you done, suja? Your dog Khan
has been "in training" unsuccessfully for a
couple years.
> and teach him how to walk on a loose leash.
Oh. Like your dogs.
> Lots of training will help with your dog's
> general confidence level,
No, lots of training is HOWE COME your
dog GOT like that.
> and may help with the SA.
You mean, instead of CURING
it NEARLY INSTANTLY, suja?
Like HOWE it done for your dog, suja?
> Good luck,
Dog training AIN'T LUCK, dog abuser. "Luck
is for SUCKERS," The Puppy Wizard's DADDY.
> Suja
Here's the Three Stooges again:
HOWEDY People,
Here's our suicide clown contingent we've talked about before.
Our pal carol levie has been an outspoken critic of Jerry and
his teachings, instead favoring hurting her dog under the tutelage
of our lying dog abusing Thug graduate of captain haggerty's
school of lying dog abusing dog training lesson salesmen
carol's history is replete with hurting her dog and being sent to
booby's competitor so he wouldn't be holding the bag for carol's
dog TURNING ON HER, as HE DID upon fini****ng her pronged
spiked pinch choke collar FRIENDLY TRAINING.
As a direct result of mishandling their dogs we've got the
gruesome twosome with broken ribs and out of control
troubled dogs, who COULD BE NORMAL within ONE WEEK,
if they'd simply learn to STOP HURTING THEIR DOGS to
train them.
The following accounts are reprehensible examples of abuse:
"Carol Levie" <carol.le...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:YWkP8.41284$uX3.4938@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Me, not Zuki.
But of course, di. You always HURT your dog, that's hardly
news. But now that you've got your payback, that IS news,
this is the NEWS that I've been waitin for to PROVE you and
your pals will NEVER be able to hurt your dogs enough to
control them.
> > I was walking her last week before work. I have to admit
> > that I wasn't paying a ton of attention to her, because I was
> > talking to my son.
IMAGINE allowing your own child to watch
you jerk choke and shock your dog.
> > Zuki spotted a rabbit, and she took off.
Because you've NEVER TRAINED HER to not want to molest
animals, you've spent all your time trying to HURT her for just
lookin at them. That's HOWE COME your pal carol's dog
TURNED ON HER. Tell us she didn't, carol. Go ahead.
> > Like an idiot,
I couldn'ta put it betta.
> > I held when I shoulda let go.
That'd NEVER happens with my students cause they're taught
NEVER TO PULL to force control of their dogs, cause we need
TOTAL OFF LEAD CONTROL, and you CAN'T get that HURTIN
your dog on lead. You'd need to learn HOWE to HURT your dog
off lead, say with your shock collar, but that seldom works either,
cause YOU GOT TO KNOW HOWE TO HURT THE DOG PROPERLY.
You don't. You HURT your dog like booby maida taught you, and
he don't know HOWE to HURT a dog PROPERLY, or he wouldn't
NEED to HANG them when they TURN on you as your dog has
done as a DIRECT RESULT of the vicious training your "expert"
has given you.
> > Zuki weighs upwards of 90 pounds,
My dogs often go 225 and we don't HURT them cause
they'll mop the goddamned floor with you for pullin that
crap on them as you dog has shown you, but was TOO
SMALL to effectively disarm and assault you IN DEFENSE!
> > and she is a very strong GSD/husky mix.
And you're a very stupid ignorant human with a big ego problem.
> > I went over really hard onto my left side.
That's PREDICTABLE. That's HOWE COME I train all my
students to HANDLE THE LEAD PROPERLY so we don't
have this sort of PREDICTABLE ACCIDENT. I teach my
student's to install a 100% reliable instant come command,
so an off lead dog is never a problem.
> > I just laid there for a moment,
DUMBSTRUCK.
> > then got up.
BWWWAHHAHAHAHAAAAA!!! I LOVE IT!
> > The pain didn't really hit till a few minutes later. Oh****!!!!!!!
Yeah, could take five years or longer to
get them not to hurt so much....
> Oh boy...can I relate!
INDEED carol levie. You've been HURTING
your dog since the git go.
> My GSD, Shayna, pulled a similar stunt last year.
AFTER SHE WAS TRAINED by your pal our own booby maida
and his COMPETITOR who taught your dog to TURN on you.
> I went down, and ended up with a broken
> rib and shoulder, plus miscellaneous other injuries.
YOU DESERVE IT carol. You're a dog abuser.
It was a month or so before I could breathe
without pain. It took many months for the
shoulder to heal...even with physical therapy.
After the incident, I could only use one hand
on the leash...and with one hand, I did not
have the strength to hold on to her if she
decided to lunge again, even if she was
wearing a pinch collar.
So, for a few months, Shayna was put on
an e-collar. (Yeah, I know...here's where
I'm going to get flamed. But you do what
you have to do!
She was professionally fitted, and I
was trained in its use by one of the
most knowledgeable trainers in the area.)
<snip>
> > I think that she understands,
If a dog understands, they DO, cause
THAT'S THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
> > but her prey drive is so strong,
Naaah, that's BUNK! That's a lame excuse for being INCOMPETENT.
> > and she just doesn't listen to me.
Yeah, HOWE ABOUT THAT!!! That's on account of you listened
to our professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer from UofWI who told
you to not listen to Jerry cause Jerry don't know HOWE to HURT
a dog properly. He suggested you read lying frosty dahls abusive
methods cause THAT'S WHAT DOG ABUSERS DO, di.
> > I can't keep doing this.
Yeah, I KNOW. That's HOWE COME Jerry's able to croak you
bastards every time you turn around here...
> > I need to hire a trainer again,
TO LEARN TO HURT YOUR DOG MOORE.
BWWWHAHAHAAAA!!!
> > and go for the refresher course.
Your dog will attack you and you'll KILL IT,
it's an rpdb CONVENTION.
> > Cripes, if I break one more bone, just shoot me.
I'd prefer to have you arrested for dog abuse before that happens,
but we haven't got LAWS passed yet. See where we're goin with
all this, FOLKSIES?
> It's just that I've broken so many bones over my lifetime.
> This sucks.
ENJOY YOUR PAIN, you brought it on yourself
when you chose to HURT your dog to train IT.
> I believe that when you have a dog with a high prey drive-
That's BULL****. If you got a dog with a "high drive," that
means you've got a CONTROL you can use to drive that dog
anyHOWE you'd LIKE, without HURTIN IT. But that means
you'd need to LEARN HOWE to properly handle your dog.
> -as we both do-
Curious, that. Both of you all broke up behind out of control
dogs, tellin everybody not to listen to Jerry cause Jerry's a LIAR.
> -you have to take a different approach.
Yeah? Tell us all about your different approach, carol with
the broken ribs and out of control handler aggressive dog.
> You must be more alert and aware than your dog at all times.
Ya mean instead of training IT?
> This does not make for relaxing walks!
That's cause you're always lookin out to HURT your dog,
so your dog is always lookin out for a kat before you
can HURT her, and THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED that got
you bums broke up... AS PREDICTED.
BWWWAAHAHAHAAAA!!!!
> And yes, a refresher course will probably help.
YEAH? My students CURE this kind of problem in about a week,
often TWO DAYS. It's EZ, but you got to know HOWE.
> Getting and keeping the dog's attention is primary...
THAT'S EZ, I teach my students to do that without gettin
off their butts as they're STUDYING their FREE copy
of my FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
available for FREE at http://www.doggydoright.com
> and it can be almost impossible with this type of dog.
YOU CAN'T BLAME THE DOG NO MOORE, dog abusers.
> You can be walking along with the dog walking nicely
UNDER DURESS of a shock or pronged spiked pinch choke
or "gl" NECKBREAKER. You're a lying dog abusing Thug, carol.
> and listening to you
If the dog was LISTENING TO YOU, IT
wouldn't be OUT OF CONTROL.
> and then, all of a sudden, all hell breaks loose.
Because the dog IS NOT LISTENING to you, IT is waiting for
an op****tunity to ESCAPE or attack a dog or kat BEFORE
YOU CAN HURT IT.
> Though I don't think there is one solution that works for everyone,
THAT'S HOWE COME I CAME HERE TO PUT YOU LYING
DOG ABUSING BASTARDS OUTTA THIS BUSINESS.
> here's what has been working for us:
THAT'S HOWE COME YOU GOT HURT AND YOUR
DOG IS OUT OF CONTROL.
> Shayna is now on a Gentle Leader,
The GL is A LIE. It is neither gentle or a leader, it's
DESIGNED to HURT and INTIMIDATE.
> though she has not acclimated to it 100%
> and probably never will!
AS STATED. IT IS CRUEL AND ABUSIVE.
> Even though she has always walked nicely on a leash,
NOT TRUE! She's ALWAYS been aggressive to other animals.
> I have her heel as we leave the house,
You THREATEN HER as you leave...
> since I never know if there's going to be another dog outside
And that's HOWE COME the dog is always alert for the hidden
critter, cause YOU WARN HER IT'S OUT THERE waiting to
be ambushed!!!
> (her prey drive is directed primarily toward other, smaller dogs).
And has been for over two years, carol. FIGGER IT OUT!
My student Valerie CURED her dog aggressive Dalmation
who'd been in a shelter for two years, in 2 DAYS! Nevyn
TRAINED 2 FEMALE PIT BULL FIGHTERS in 23 days.
> Once the coast is clear,
The coast will NEVER be clear for a dog abuser like you
and booby and di, carol, cause I'm gonna EXPOSE YOU
AND YOUR ILK, TO THE WORLD.
> I release her from the heel...but stay ever vigilant.
Shove it, dog abuser.
> Since she is never far away from my side,
BECAUSE SHE'S UNTRUSTWORTHY.
> it's fairly easy to get her back to heel position if I
> spot another dog.
YOU CHOKE HER.
> She gets rewarded for not lunging,
You think so? She gets bribed and doesn't know HOWE COME
or she'd be TRAINED, wouldn't she, carol IDIOT.
> gets a bigger reward
DOGS DO NOT WORK FOR CREDIT!
> for noticing but not reacting aggressively toward the other animal,
That's an illusion...
> and she gets a jackpot if she ignores it completely.
That's ABSURD. A dog will fight the refrigerator to
find a tiny speck of the same food in his bowl right
next to it. Dogs clearly do not understand BONANZAS!
YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
> That's rare, of course.
Pffft. Of course, it'd be a ACCIDENT!!!
> The consensus on Shayna's behavior is that it's as
> good as it's going to get.
You mean your captain haggarty graduate can't train your
dog, nor can his competitor who "DOES THAT ALL THE TIME,"
which was the EXCUSE booby gave you for sending you to
his competitor, so you wouldn't come back here WITH THIS
SAD TALE OF ABUSE AND FAILURE.
> The prey drive is so strong,
A highly driven dogs is like having keys to the craft...
> so innate,
Like the teachings I rely on to CURE all
behavior problems nearly INSTANTLY?
> that there's really nothing I can do to completely override it.
You'd have to FORGET all the abuse you've been taught
by your dog lover pals, and DO EVERYTHING JERRY SEZ.
> All I can do is to try to direct and reward
> her for appropriate behavior.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOWE TO TRAIN A DOG,
EVEN WITH THE "HELP" OF THE BEST EXPERTS IN THE
INDUSTRY!!!
> (And pray!)
NOT TO MY G-D YOU BETTER NOT!!!
Keep your poisonous thoughts to your lying
dog abusing Thug pals. PRAY FOR THEM
to your hypocrite GOD who'll watch you
bastards choke shock beat and kill your best
dogs cause you can't stop HURTING THEM
cause THAT IS YOU HUMAN NATURE!!!
> We continue to train, of course.
NO. YOU CONTINUE TO ABUSE AND LIE TO YOURSELF!
> Good luck...
LUCK? PRAY FOR MOORE LUCK...
IT AIN'T HAPPENIN, NOT
NO WAY, NOT NO HOWE.
> and I hope you heal quickly!
She'll be in PAIN for YEARS, as YOU ARE
NOW, carol, cause you KILLFILED JERRY
and CHOSE TO HURT YOUR DOG.
> Carol
Thank you carol, for EPITOMIZING The SYNDROME.
You may make psychiatric history...as a CASE STUDY.
NOW GET THE HEEL OUTTA HERE YOU
MISERABLE LYING DOG ABUSING THUG.
> Di
> "May all your weeds be wildflowers."
> Anonymous
The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizzzard. <}YPW ; ~ } >
oo-oo
Here's professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM research
at UofWI, marshall "SCRUFF SHAKE and SCREAM
"NO!" into ITS face for five seconds and lock IT in a
box for ten minutes contemplation," dermer:
"At this point, "No" does not have any behavioral function.
But, if you say "No,"pick up the puppy by its neck and
shake it a bit, and the frequency of the biting decreases
then you will have achieved too things.
First, the frequency of unwanted chewing has decreased;
and two, you have established "No" as a conditioned punisher.
How much neck pulling and shaking? Just the
minimum necessary to decrease the unwanted
biting.
**********IS THAT A CONSISTENT 5 SECONDS?************
When our dog was a puppy, "No" came before mild
forms of punishment (I would hold my dog's mouth
closed for a few seconds.) whereas "Bad Dog" came
before stronger punishement (the kind discussed above).
"No" is usually sufficient but sometimes I use "Bad Dog"
to stop a behavior. "Bad Dog" ALWAYS works," marshall
dermer, research professor of ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at
UofWI. For MOORE animal abuse, please visit dr p.
BWAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!!
That's INSANE. Ain't it.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{}TPW ; ~ } >
P.S. Contacting Dr. P:
Please note that due to the large number of
requests I receive, I can no longer give free,
personal advice on problems related to dog
training and behavior.
In order for me to give such advice we would
have to "talk" about the problem at length.
That is, I would need detailed information about
the dog, it's environment and routine, the problem,
and the situation in which the problem occurs.
Thus, this type of consultation takes time which
I cannot afford to give away for free.
If you wish such advice, please see the information
I have provided about my K9 Behavioral Consulting
practice. Another alternative to obtaining personal
advice is to participate in e-mail, chat room, &
newsgroup discussions.
P.P.S. BWEEEEEEEAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!
YOU'RE FRAUDS, drs p. and dermer!
Either DEFEND your LIES, ABUSE And
Degrees or get the heel HOWETA THIS
BUSINESS.
"If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
and you will know each other.
If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
and what you do not know you will fear.
What one fears, one destroys."
Chief Dan George
"Rootman" <no-...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:vd83djr9fv0cc0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Mini Adolph Hitler (aka megalomanic) wrote:
> <snipped>
> Something else that was completely stupid,
> ignorant false and nongermane.
>
> JH, you are a goosestepping, facist, brown****rt,
> terrorist sup****ting, nazi thug. YOU hurt and kill
> dogs then try and cover it up by dreaming up false
> quotes to sup****t your own retard methods.
> Go and practice your wild facism somewhere else.
---------------------------------
"(Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
few regulars here who are either ill-
tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.),"
--Marshall
Subject changed: JUMPING / MOUTHING On PEOPLE (Ninnyboy)
26 From: Marshall Dermer -
Date: Tues, Aug 14 2001 8:15 pm
Email: der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Marshall Dermer)
In article <2e501ccd.0108141341.7f18d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
mattburns...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Matthew Burnside) writes:
Dear Matt:
Many have offered Jerry constructive advice but
Jerry has failed to profit from it.
My sincere advice is to filter out Jerry's posts.
--Marshall
PS: I have put "Ninnyboy" in the header for many of us filter
posts with this term. The term indicates that the post
is about Jerry.
I have read rpdb for about five years. Consequently, I urge
newbies to attend to the civil and rational posts of the rpdb
regulars from whom I have learned much. They include:
Ann (,Twzl, Sligo & Roy), Amy Dahl, Diane Blackman,
jdoee, Janet Boss, Susan Fraser, Avrama Gingold, Nancy
Holmes, Lynn Kosmakos, Bob Maida, MaryBeth, Ruth
Mays, Cindy Tittle Moore, Robin Nuttall, Denna Pace,
John Richardson, Sarah Sionnach, Ludwig Smith, Jane
Webb, and Terri Willis.
*(EVERY WON of them got VERY LONG POSTED CASE}
HISTORIES of INCURABLE MENTAL ILLNESS an HURTIN
INTIMIDATIN an MURDERIN INNOCENT DEFENSELESS
DUMB CRITTERS an LYIN abHOWET IT.)
Marshall Lev Dermer/Associate Professor/Behavior Analysis
Specialty/ Department of Psychology/University of
Wisconsin--Milwaukee/Milwaukee, WI 53201
der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
"If I am not for myself, who will be for me. But if I am only for
myself, what am I?" _The Talmud_
YOU'RE FRAUDS, drs p. and dermer!
Either DEFEND your LIES, ABUSE And
Degrees or get the heel HOWETA THIS
BUSINESS.
Here's professor dermer AFTER gettin JERRYIZED:
"We Are Lucky To Have You, And More People Should
Come To Their Senses And Sup****t Your Valuable Work.
God Bless The Puppy Wizard," Professor Marshall Dermer,
Dept Of ANAL-ytic Behavior, UofWI.
From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:53 PM
Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard
Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,
I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.
You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to
alert the world to animal abuse.
We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and sup****t your valuable
work.
Have you thought of establi****ng a nonprofit
charity to fund your im****tant work?
Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?
In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.
I wish you well in your endeavors.
--Marshall Dermer
"If you've got them by the balls their hearts
and minds will follow,"
John Wayne.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
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