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Re: Outdoor cat?

by "Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborator Sep 28, 2008 at 11:03 PM

HOWEDY janet you pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active acute chronic
life-long incurable malignant maliciHOWES mental case
and professional dog trainin FRAUD an SCAM ARTIST,

"Janet Boss" <janet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:janet-40B7C0.22161928092008@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In article <XSUDk.42095$vX2.12300@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> "tiny dancer" <tinydancer357@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing your washable slip covers are due to spraying?

janet's fearful neurotic kats **** an piss ALL OVER
her HOWES includin on her dog's beds <{}: ~ ( >

>> I've heard people talk about it, but don't know exactly what it is?

Spraying is an anXXXIHOWESNESS relief mechanism:

Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue, Space
Coast Cat Rescue, Animal Commissioner Brevard
 Co, FL, writes:

I do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it
has helped my dogs and cats.  I do think your product is a
valuable tool in helping with aggression and other behavior
 problems.

I am in Feral Cat Network (we spay and neuter approximately
 100 feral cats a month), I am also a member of a local AKC
dog obedience club, member of a local AKC agility club,
president of Pet Rescue, board member of the Alliance for
Care and Welfare of Animals (on the board are: county
commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC dog club, CFA
cat club, assistant County manager, head of animal control,
 director of two different shelters, etc.).

Thanks, Elaine,

Hi Jerry,

Well, we have been running Doggy Do Right for awhile
 (3 weeks) now and would appear that it is working. We
are still on the lowest setting but my cat aggressive dog
is now much calmer with the little fur balls getting near
 her. Not perfect but much improved!

I do think that you need a more universal name as it
appears to have drastically cut the spraying problem
 down that we have with our crowded cat situation.

I am going to send an e-mail to Domesti-Cats club,
Feral Cat Network and Space Cats Club as a lot of
the members have some of the same problems with
their cats.

It has also lessened the number of nightly cat fights.

Thanks, Elaine

            ---------------

Hi,
Lowest setting to us is when the machine is on the least number
of times during the day. We are going to try  putting it on the
next setting and see if that will completely solve our
problems. We are holding our breath at this point on the
spraying and hoping that BIOSOUND continues to work.

Will let you know. Yes, feel free to use my post. If you sell
 to people with cat spray problems though you might want
to recommend that they do what we did.

We went through the house with BacTerminator an enzyme
product that eats the cat urine. We have used Bac T. for a
 long time and it usually only slows them down for a week
or two, so I know it is the BIOSOUND that has created the
 success we are seeing right now.

We were resigned to constant cleaning and even then
it was difficult to keep up with. I don't know if you
have forgotten but we have 19 cats.

Elaine.

      ------------------------------

>> Is it urinating or something more?

There AIN'T NUTHIN WORSE than kat pee.

> No.  He had the poop squirts, on the fly, as a kitten.

That was a visceral response to FEAR.

             HERE'S HOWE COME:

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (J1Boss)
Date: 24 Feb 2004 16:08:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Russian Blue running away - help!

> From: "Gail" g...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I wonder if a scat mat will help. It is a mat that is
> plugged in and emits a mild shock when the animal steps
> on it. I don't know if people stepping on it will cause
> the mat harm, though.
>
> Below is a link to it. I used them near bookcases when
> one of my cats started urinating there. They were great.
> Gail

A scat mat directly in front of the door, can be stepped
OVER by the humans, but teach the cat to avoid the door area.

 I think it's a great solution.

BTW they can run on a 9V battery, so no wires are needed.

They are fixtures on my leather furniture to stop kitties
from peeing there!

Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine

>  Not my idea of fun!

INDEED?

Here's janet's idea of FUN:

    "Loop the lead (it's basically a GIANT nylon or leather
    choke collar) over his snarly little head, and give him a
    stern correction" --Janet Boss

Here's janet's CUSTOME MADE pronged spiked pinch choke collar:
                       http://tinyurl.com/5m6ppt

                           AND LIKE THIS:

"J1Boss" <j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:20040324071828.07753.00000001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 He was next to me and I could see his neck
 muscles pulsing.  He didn't even blink an eye.
 Janet Boss

"sionnach" <rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:c3qi15$2biuoh$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "J1Boss" <j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:20040323173916.10096.00001938@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  I can't imagine needing anything higher
> >  than a 5 with it, even with an insensitive
> > dog like a Lab.

An INSENSITIVE DOG???

> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have, but
> > I had a pointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.

Do you think the citronella collar is CRUEL
cause the SMELL LINGERS after the dog's
 been sprayed in the face and the dog won't
know HOWE COME IT was MACED?

janet CONtinues:
> > My dogs are not human children wearing fur- they are DOGS.
> > I don't have anything against electronic bark collars, but they
> > should be used in conjunction with actually working at training
> > your dog(s).

They're DUMB ANIMALS these MENTALLY ILL LYING
DOG ABUSERS HURT INTIMIDATE and MURDER.

                           -------------------

> He would have found his way back to the shelter in a lot of homes!

No, he'd of NOT BEEN ABUSED in LOTS of HOWESES.

> Spraying is generally from INTACT male cats,

That's NOT true, janet.

> but it is basically urine marking, as dogs may do as well.

Dogs an kats PISS an **** in your HOWESES
on accHOWENTA THEY AIN'T HAPPY.

>  I've never had any of my pets, cats or dogs, do that.

You mean on accHOWENTA you lock them in boxes.

That's a other LIE, AIN'T IT, janet <{}'; ~ ) >

Here's janet's fear aggressive hyperactive
kats NOT PISSIN in her HOWES:

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (J1Boss)
Date: 03 Nov 2003 19:25:20 GMT

Subject: Re: Keeping cat out of room.

>From: "Iso" nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>The mats, regardless of what you think WORK and are HARMLESS.

Just another opinion that Scat Mats are pretty useful tools.

Rather than have my youngest cat continue to ruin my
leather furniture, we have Scat Mats on the sofa and
chair.

When they are off, and we're sitting on that furniture,
Skip is allowed on and in our laps, etc.  When the mats
are on, I can be happy with the fact that he's not
urinating on the leather!

The static charge isn't much at all - it's a deterrent,
and a good one.

Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (J1Boss)
Date: 04 Jun 2003 12:10:19 GMT

Subject: a few frustrations - a little long.
Mostly venting, but any thoughts are welcome!

#1 - Skipjack.  1.5 y.o. neutered male blue tabby.

Incredibly sweet and affectionate, sleeps against me
all night, on my lap every moment he can be. Eats well
(Solid Gold dry, various brands of canned - small amounts -
not much interest), uses his litter box, only scratches
his tree and a few mats that have been approved, and is
a very nice cat.  Let's anyone carry him around forever
and is very social.  Gets along well with 2 dogs and
another cat. But................

He also urinates on other things.  Sofas (where we sit) -
frequency of maybe every few months.  Wires.  Phone or
speaker wires (thin), that are at floor level.  Scrapes
around at them and urinates on them on hard surface flooring.

Maybe once every few weeks.  Dog beds and dog's sofa
(I have baby mattress pads on these, under the covers
in order to just have to do wash!) - once every few
weeks. Guest bed - used or freshly washed sheets.
Full laundry basket - random, if available, not often.

Anything that can go in the wash has gotten soaked and
washed in hot water, Oxyclean added.  Anything not machine
washable gets a thorough cleaning with Simple Solution Cat
Urine Cleaner (which I found seems to work better than Nature's
Miracle for this).

Feliway has been used to varying success.

Most recently, he urinated on a sofa cu****on within a
few hours of spraying it with Feliway.

I have 2 cats, 2 litterboxes.  One crystals, which he prefers,
one scoopable, which my other cat prefers.  Both are kept
incredibly clean.  No problem using the box, even when workmen
were in the room - I see him use it regularly and tell him what
a good kitty he is for doing so.

A little history - when he came home at 5 months old last
February (2002), he had a bad case of the squirts and managed
to fly around with liquid poop being released all over my sofas.

We cleared that up, washed everything thoroughly (sofas have
2 sets of machine washable slipcovers, and the leather sofa
he christened has a scat mat on it now), and thought we had
conquered any problems.

He is quite the perfect cat except for this issue and it's
very random as to where and when he decides to urinate.

I'm not happy with the situation of course, and can't quite
figure out what's going on.  He doesn't have a UTI and has
normal elimination patterns as far as frequency.

He does not do this in my bedroom, the other guest bedroom,
the kitchen or dining room.

If you've read this far, I have another cat and problem! ;-D

#2 Carey. Almost 10 y.o. spayed tortie.  Neurological problems
(probabl brain tumor, other things ruled out).  Has been on Pred
and Valium for a bit over a year,  and has dropped from a bit over
9# to less than 7# (all thyroid tests came back normal).

She's a happy and sweet cat who bugs me for her pills every
morning.  She has a problem with raised (even happy) voices
where she attacks the dogs.  I've talked about that here before.

The dogs are saints and have never reacted adversely to her
doing this.  I can pick her up during these episodes and she
doesn't attack me, but is hell bent on trying to attack the
dogs.  There have been times where the dogs noises have
triggered this.  She gets along well with the younger cat.

She adores the dogs otherwise, and that's really the problem
more than the attacking (we've all kind of learned to live
with that!).

She obsesses over them.

When she was a kitten, she nursed on my Golden Retriever
so much that she needed surgery for hair blockage.  She
ceased the behavior until she was 5.5 and when another
dog died, then she resumed.

She transferred that to another dog after the Golden died
1.5 years later, and now it's just increased to a difficult
level.

She does this to both of my dogs, mostly at nighttime or
whenever they are napping in my bedroom.  She will do it
to the one dog in other locations as well.  During the day,
it's not so bad.

The dogs look confused but tolerate it, even though she's
latched onto them with her mouth and rear claws.  She
attaches herself to various parts of their bodies.

Nighttime is the problem - we're not getting any sleep!

Skipjack sleeps on the bed, the dogs sleep on their dog
beds or her favorite dog sleeps under the bed.

 She will not leave her alone!

Poor Lucy gets up and leaves the room, only for Carey
to follow her, and she winds up pacing around, which
keeps us awake.  She just isn't deterred.  She can be
lifted off, tossed off, grumbled at, but she will not
leave the dogs alone until she's good and ready.

The only rooms that can be closed off are either across
the hall or under our room.  She's a very vocal cat and
will meow like crazy if confined away from everyone else,
so that won't help sleep.

Any thoughts of novel things to try with either of these
kitties?  I adore them but their habits are driving me
up the wall at times!

Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: Janet B <j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:18:15 -0400

Subject: Re: Electric shock pad

On 8 Aug 2005 11:03:01 -0700, "mystro"
<highpur...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, clicked
their heels and said:

>I'm trying to find a link or resource for purchasing training shock
>pad,a pad that gives a slight shock using flashlight batteries and
>perfectly harmless and from what little I've read..quite effective.
>Help  :)

it's called a Scat Mat.  Google that and you'll find several sources.

-- 
Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.co m
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/
bestfriendsobedience/album

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (J1Boss)
Date: 03 Nov 2003 19:25:20 GMT

Subject: Re: Keeping cat out of room.

>From: "Iso" nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>The mats, regardless of what you think WORK and are HARMLESS.

Just another opinion that Scat Mats are pretty useful tools.

Rather than have my youngest cat continue to ruin my
leather furniture, we have Scat Mats on the sofa and
chair.

When they are off, and we're sitting on that furniture,
Skip is allowed on and in our laps, etc.  When the mats
are on, I can be happy with the fact that he's not
urinating on the leather!

The static charge isn't much at all - it's a deterrent,
and a good one.

Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (J1Boss)
Date: 04 Nov 2003 21:35:43 GMT

Subject: Re: Declawing: glad I took the time

Kaeli wrote:

> Some of us feel that declawing a cat is tantamount to torture.
> You don't torture something you profess to love. Period. You
> don't even take the chance that it might be tortured. Period.

I fully understand that (and the analogy of other groups
who feel strongly about issue "x").  I think there is a
very, very large group of people who choose or think about
declawing, do so not because they want to take a chance
that the animal they love may be tortured, but because
of a variety of experiences/advice that says it's an ok
thing to do (not torture in general - declawing!).

Take the neighbor's attitude ("just" a cat?  NO cat is
"just" anything! ;-D). One shared by many, to some degree.
Lot's of priorities.  Interesting thread on RPDB recently
about people willing to die/put themselves in the line of
fire for their dogs.

It was interesting to read the range of thoughts on such
a thing.  Obviously, people give different weight to
different beings and things.

While I am their caregiver and friend, I don't put
pets in the same category as humans.

I declawed my first cat, because my experiences said that
is what you did with an indoor cat (had lived with many
cats owned by others).  She used her claws inappropriately
as a kitten, and my meager attempts at clawing devices
didn't work, so I thought nothing of it.

Since she exhibited no obvious ill effects, my experience
(and hers as far as anyone could tell) was a positive one.

Knowing more of what it entailed, I chose not to declaw my
next cat (owned in tandem with cat #1 and then cat #3).
He was an adult acquisition and I knew such a thing would
be more difficult for him, but also, he was very trainable
and I didn't even consider it.

Cat #3 was a claw maniac, and due to my experiences with
Cat #1, I went ahead with a declaw.  Once again, I have
never seen any backlashes due to the operation, and I
would put up with anything if I'm lucky enough to have
her for many more years, which isn't all that likely.

She's doing well on meds currently, and maintaining,
if not gaining any weight.

Once I was ready for cat #4, I knew that I wouldn't choose
this route again. Not because of gory pictures, not because
of scare tactics about what my declawed cat would become,
but because I realized that more tools could make the
difference and it wasn't something that I really wanted
to do.

I didn't want to cause a kitten pain (even though others
didn't seem to experience any!), nor any physical or
emotional problems.  So, I have a fully clawed cat who
pees on things - oh well! ;-D  He's a wonderful cat in
every other way!

> If you love your furniture more than your cat's right
> to not be mutilated, you are going to draw some venom
> in a cat newsgroup.

Again, why is it either/or?

Can't someone value their belongings and their cat too?

I choose to protect my furniture with Sticky Paws (I forgot
they were there - probably time to take them off - it's been
almost 2 years with no interest!) and with Scat Mats (not
from claws but from urine).

Some folks posting here think that's a horrible thing to do.

People who have obviously never felt a Scat Mat!  But balloons,
snappy trainers, etc are recommended.  A lot of contradictory
thoughts here, so I can't say that it's all rational.

Passion rarely is though - and I actually appreciate
that for the most part!

It's obvious that each one of us has our own limits.

Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine

gn.net/kae lisSpace
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav
From: j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (J1Boss)
Date: 23 Jan 2004 21:21:29 GMT
Subject: Re: Protecting leather furniture

> But would a scat mat keep a cat from clawing
> the side of the couch?
>--
>~kaeli~

no - it's only good for the pee problem!

Never showed any interest in clawing, and
"launch" marks disappeared easily, as good
leather "heals" itself.

Janet Boss
Best Friends Dog Obedience
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"
Voted "Best of Baltimore 2001" - Baltimore Magazine

           <SNIP LIES IDIOCY INSANITY and ABUSE>

               BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
 




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