HOWEDY tiny dancer you pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin dog an child abusin punk thug coward active
acute chronic life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
manic depresive Sado Masochistic MENTAL CASE,
"tiny dancer" <tinydancer357@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Right now I'm trying to contain my dogs. I know they'd
> hurt the cat if they could, so that's another thing I have to do, get
them
> to knock off this **** and now. They are raising holy hell seeing the
cat
> on our side of the street and in our front yard now.
You *(well, NOT *you* but ANY WON [***well, NOT
ANY WON here]) CAN TRAIN ANY DOG NEARLY
INSTANTLY not to chase an murder innocent defenseless
dumb critters simply by PRAISING them IN ADVANCE
and briefly, variably, alternately, NON PHYSICALLY
distracting and INSTANTLY PRAISING them for five
to fifteen seconds.
LIKE THIS:
Subject: The Amazing ***** Hunter <{}: ~ ) >
<Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_
Laboratory@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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AND LIKE THIS:
From: "lindalee" <llindaleedan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 21 Jan 2006 18:34:10 -0800
Subject: Chasing squirrels
I have not posted to the group for awhile but
want to share my success of teaching my dog
Sun****ne, who has a very high prey drive, to
not go after squirrels when on a walk. It
took a few trials but he can now walk right
past squirrels running up a tree or in a yard.
Using Jerry Howe's approach I used a sound to
get his attention when he saw a squirrel and
then praised him and kept on walking past the
squirrel. Where we live in Michigan we lots of
squirrels and he was always wanting to chase
them up a tree. Jerry's approach of sound
and praise really works.
I think the people who discount his methods
have never tried the method because it works
everytine. Sometimes it takes a little practice
to get the sound from different directions but
I was able to change Sun****ne's behavior in
just a week after we moved back to Michigan.
Sun****ne is a very sensitive dog so any physical
corrections just won't work but using sound and
praise he is a really great dog who opens doors,
picks up things I drop, and and helps me a lot.
If you have a behavior problem with your dog get
a copy of Jerrry's manual and solve your problem!
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AND LIKE THIS:
Date: 5/22/03 11:24:35 PM Eastern
Daylight Time
From: p...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Witsend...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, let me tell you, your Wits' End
Dog Training Method works.
My dog, Dasie, Loves to chase chameleons
around the barbecue on the patio. I
used this system on four different occasions.
When she went out today, she looked
everywhere else but the barbecue.
Amazing, just amazing.
I will write to Amanda about the video.
I am really excited to learn more, and
understand. Maybe just a little reassurance
that I am going about it the right way.
Thanks again
Paul
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HERE'S HOWE COME:
From: "LeeCharlesKelley" <kelleymet...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:08:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Has anyone read . .
dian...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
"Situation:
- Unfenced suburban backyard frequented by deer most of the day
(specifically four does and three fawns right now; it's been a good
year) - Genuinely high-prey drive herding dog Challenge:"
"Nah, it's not MERELY to prevent the dog from chasing the
deer; that would be too darn easy <*g*>. We want the dog to
be so relaxed that the deer don't react with anything more than
an ear-flick when she walks into the yard."
"How would you harness the dog's prey drive to
accomplish that result?"
Kelley replies:
Seconal.
For both the dog and the deer.
We don't have deer in Manhattan, we have squirrels, so the
part about the deer only flicking an ear would not translate
to them.
My dog used to love chasing squirrels, but I trained him out
of the habit, somewhat the same way I'd train a dog who loves
playing fetch to respond to a recall signal, even while he's hot
after a tennis ball or a Frisbee, then turn on a dime, and come
running back even harder and faster and with more energy and
enthusiasm than he had for chasing the ball.
This translates to squirrels, cyclists, or anything else, so I'm sure
that that part of it would translate quite readily to deer or tractors
or whatever you got out where you are that we don't got none of
in these parts.
As for the next step, when the dog goes after a squirrel or cyclist,
etc., and will turn on a dime (off leash) when he hears his recall
signal and then run back harder and faster, etc., he's given a ball
(or Frisbee) to chase as a reward. (The reward for turning on a
dime while chasing a ball or Frisbee is enthuiastic praise and a
lot of happy jumping up and maybe a game of "tag--you're it".)
After a few times of doing these exercises the dog has no further
interest in chasing anything except what his owner wants him to
chase. And *his* "ears don't flicker" anytime he sees a squirrel, etc.
His drive was now been channeled completely into
the toy (and into his obedience commands).
As for a squirrel showing no fear of a dog, that's pretty tough -- I
don't usually train squirrels. But I'll mention this: about two years
ago a squirrel actually came walking up to my dog and got about
two feet away.
Looked right at Fred and didn't twitch his moustache. Does that
count? I'd say a squirrel that not only doesn't run away, but actually
comes up to a dog, close enough for his life to be over with one
quick lunge, and doesn't twitch his mustache actually trumps a deer
who flicks his ear, while safely standing however many yards away,
wouldn't you?
Fred, by the way, snubbed the little critter. Didn't even look
at him, could have cared less that he was there. I even got the
feeling that if the squirrel had gotten close enough, Fred would've
have just given him a curious nose to nose sniff, the way he'd
sniff another dog, and would've then gone about his business.
Oh, and to use your terminology, Fred is a "high-drive" Dalmatian
who, when he chases something, puts all his energy into it. And I
mean all.
He's really something to watch (or was, he's 12 now and his back
legs are starting to slow him down, but his emotional energy is
still there).
By the way, do I get a prize for this?
LCK
Here's trainer and author LeeCharlesKelley's GENTLE,
EFFECTIVE method bein described by elizabeth naime,
PROFESSIONAL DOG ABUSE TRAININ FRAUD,
SCAM ARTIST and MENTAL PATIENT:
"Elizabeth Naime" <ena...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
message
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> Quoth Handsome Jack Morrison
> <me10...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> on Sat, 20 Nov 2004
> 02:15:55 GMT,
>
> What's the difference between making, say, a
> hard-charging field-bred retriever (say an equally
> independent Chessie) "reliably do something that is
> completely contrary to its wiring," e.g.,
<SNIP>
Couple of years ago by now, a woman with fox
terriers wrote about training a recall on the
clicktrain list. She had used a long line and
proofed for distractions per Koehler; yet the dog
knew when he was on a line and when not, and
would ignore her when there were squirrels to chase.
She had used an e-collar under the direction of a
professional, who said he had never met a dog who
could tell whether he was wearing the real thing or
the dummy collar, as her dog seemed able to.
Heck, they're terriers. Chasing squirrels or other
irresistable prey, they'll scramble through t*****
bushes, tumble down rocky hills, and the prey could
always bite back (though I'm thinking more of badger
dogs -- the Cairn Terrier, the West Highland White
Terrier, and the hunting Dachshund -- badgers are
reputed to be pretty tough critters). And none of
that diminishes the fun. What's a few scratches and
lumps and bruises? And what are corrections
from a long line or an e-collar in the face of such
delightful temptation?
What did work for her, at last, was chasing
squirrels with the dog. I believe she used a harness
with a long line and a snapback, not to correct the
dog, but to ensure that during training he simply
wasn't able to enjoyably chase squirrels without
her cooperation.
Each time he focused on her rather than a
nearby squirrel, the reward was that they
chased the squirrel together.
The fact that his best friend and fellow squirrel
chaser was a bit clumsly and let the squirrels
get away didn't bother him... apparently the
chase was the best part.
Once he got the picture (not long at all) the dog took
to running over and stepping on her foot when there
was chasable prey about... which pretty much took
care of the squirrel chasing problem, as she was
then able to pick him up and/or reward him with a
joint chase when appropriate and not too
embarassing.
A good while after this training success, she found
that he would run and touch her foot to alert her to
prey *she* hadn't seen yet. Which gave her time to
pick him up the time he saw the chicken first...
There are limits, obviously. You can't chase deer
with your dog; ain't proper and the game warden's
not gonna be happy with it.
However, I think there's a lesson here for all trainers,
about the dog knowing what's reinforcing and what's
not (treats ranking lower than squirrels for this dog)
and about modifying "drives," setting rules and limits
rather than trying to "put a stop to it" entirely.
So the retriever gets to chase and retrieve birds,
the scent hound gets to use his nose, the terrier
gets to chase the prey, the greyhound gets to lure
course (or, squeamish though I personally might be
about it, open-field course)... on the handler's
terms.
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AND HERE'S HOWE COME YOU'LL
NEVER BE ABLE TO DO THAT:
REMEMBER, tiny dancer needs her rest so P-L-E-A-S-E
DO NOT DISTURB the MENTAL PATIENTS:
tiny dancer
3gwoj.63745$vt2.4...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I already own a S&W, .357 and it's neither large nor heavy. It's a
bit smaller, only six shots, whereas dh's holds seven. I've thought
of carrying that, but would prefer something else.
I'm looking for something to use against a rather large, aggressive
pit bull, just in case. I don't think a small .22 would even make a
dent. This is one of those block-headed, really wide-jawed, very
muscular pit bulls.
td "
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"tiny dancer" <tinydancer357@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Klaus Kragelund" <klauskvik@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> We have a very happy and active female labrador puppy
> weighing 25 kilo and soon to be 8 months old. (not a formula
> 1 labrador)
>
> Wehave been attending puppy-training and she responds very well (one
> of the best in the class). We are waiting for a new course to come
>>along to train the dog further.
>
> We do however have a couple of problems:
>
>We walk the dog to the shore each day. We keep her in a leash until we
>get 200 meter from the water and whe walks fine (by my side). She also
> responds when we call/whissle, but when she is free and people comes
>she will run very fast to the pople to say hello, jump up, sometimes
> bite their fingers and lick the fingers also. (its a big problem since
> people get scared when a big dog comes running like that). We cannot
> come into contact with her at all when she sees people and is running
> towards them
>
> The other problem is that she licks the family a lot,
> especially we, the owners.
>
> Can anyone recommend how to solve these two quirks?
>
> (regarding the small biting behaviour, we take her by the
> neck into the floor each time she does it to try to solve it)
>
> Regards
>
> Klaus
Hey Klaus,
When my lab mix was a pup, and in the play biting phase,
I would grab her around her muzzle and tell her NO BITE,
NO BITE. She caught on to what I meant fairly quickly.
Sometimes I would grab just the top ****tion of her mouth,
behind the nose, and tell her 'no bite', and sometimes I would
grab the whole mouth, top and bottom jaw. Just depended
upon the situation, etc.
Either way, it wasn't a hurtful *grab*. It was just to let her know
what it was she was doing that was unacceptable, the play biting,
and then emphasizing the NO word, the sound of displeasure in
my voice.
td
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tiny dancer is a CHRONIC MANIC DEPRESSIVE lyin dog
abusin MENTAL CASE who jerks chokes and intimdates her
dogs and ignores them when they CRY <{}: ~ ( >
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:03:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Help with barking
> "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > You want dog talk. Okay, I'll give you dog talk.
> > Barking, Cesar Millan's technique worked perfectly well
> > for my two. Oh, it takes a bit of effort. But my barkers
> > are learning. They love to hang out upstairs at our front
> > windows and rule the neighborhood by barking at everyone
> > who dares to cross in front of our home.
>
> > I calmly and quietly move my body in front of them,
> > *claiming* the window as *my territory*. And I
> > back them away from the window and what ever is
> > outside there enticing them to bark. And ya know
> > what, it works like a charm. I'm at the point where
> > I no longer have to actually get up and go over to the
> > window to *claim it* anymore. I simply say their
> > names and stand up. Where upon they begin backing
> > away from the window all on their own.
> > I've been working on it about a week now, I say I'll give
> > it one more week and I think, by the way they have been
> > responding to this training, my barking at the window
> > problem will be solved.
> > Now go ahead, have at me about Cesar.
> > Since his walking on the leash training was a snap for me,
> > I have no doubt the window training will also be a success.
> > td
I've found the *calm assertive* method
to work for me in everything I've tried.
Good luck in your efforts! Sometimes training the
people is almost as hard as training the dogs. ;-)
I have to continually repeat, 'ignore them until they behave'.
No acknowledgments, no pets, etc., ignore them.
best,
td
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"tiny dancer" <tinydancer357@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have two rather large dogs, both of whom I
acquired after the puppy stage, I have to be immediate,
firm, harsh when controlling bad behaviors.
When one of mine displays a behavior such as the one
you described, I grab them by the collar and take them
down to their side, repeating NO in a strong, firm voice.
And I keep them down on their side until they submit, relax, etc.
Then I repeat the NO again before letting them back up again.
Don't know if this will help you much, but it does work with mine.
td
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
"Although, when we first got Gracie, she was a bit dog
aggressive, and I did grab her by her collar, shouting NO
at her in my most firm commanding voice, and slam her
down to the ground and hold her there.
She weighs about 70 pounds. And doing that only a couple
times, taught her dog aggression was not acceptable behavior.
She no longer does it. But if there is a new dog present, and
I have the slightest doubt as to how she might react, I make
sure she is on a leash until I'm positive she won't be aggressive
towards it."
"I use my prong collars on the dogs when I do something
like that, just to be extra cautious because I have a child
with me. I want to have the best control over them as
possible, just in case they see a cat or something on our walk.
We do tend to see more critters out here in the country, and
the dogs aren't accustomed to all that yet. Lots of people out
here let their dogs roam freely, plus the cats, and we even
come upon the occasional horseback rider. I haven"t had
the time to work with them as much as I'd like yet, because
of my ruptured disc's. I have to take it easy for a few more
months per my physical therapist.
Hope this might help you some,"
"Gracie has never bitten anyone either, and she does warm
up to people I *introduce* her to immediately. But I think
if anyone was hurting/trying to hurt one of us, she'd protect us.
She's very much an alpha dog in her behaviors.
I have to continually work at convincing her that I am the
pack leader around here, not her. ;-) I always win, but
she does keep trying to challenge my authority.
And when she stands up on her back legs, she's just about
as tall as me, 5' 5". So when she throws herself at the front
windows, barking and growling, she does look quite intimidating
to strangers."
"Merlin, on the other hand, is the total opposite of Gracie. He
constantly gives us 'the look'. He has a real attitude. When I
call him, he gives me the "why should I come" look. The "I
don't feel like it" look.
He can be very frustrating at times.
But he's big and goofy and playful, and we love him just
as much. He had two homes before ours that didn't work
out. And in some ways I can see why.
He's a free spirit, a tease, a big play-baby.
He will position himself at one end of the dining room table,
and run me around it like a pro. He watches everything we
do, in order to decide if he chooses to participate."
"Now bo, do you remember what I told you one does if
their dog does something objectionable? You grab it
by the collar, put the dog down into a postion of
submission, and hold it there until it understands it's
place in order of the pack.
And when I use the term 'pack' here, I'm not referring
to four dogs. I'm referring to dog/human. And need I
even mention the fact that these were Rottweilers/Chow mixes????
I think pretty much everyone here who know's anything about
dogs has voiced their opinion about avoiding CHOWS. You
certainly don't go out and breed a CHOW with a rottie to get
a better PROTECTION dog.
If I've forgotten anything else, please feel free to remind me."
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LikeWIZE:
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From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 05:00:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Highs and Lows
Sorry to hear about your awful week! :-( And also sorry guys, I
sent a blank message before this, just haven't had enough coffee
yet to think straight, (and daughter just called, asked if **** bag
could come back to stay today, so I guess I spoke too fast, grandma
probably will have it on her oriental carpet yet! They are moving
this weekend, that's why doggie stays here!)
Anyway, Kat I'm really sorry to hear about your asthma. I
know how that can be as all three of my girls had asthma.
Two of them pretty bad.
Sorry this has taken so long, but it's been a rough week! Yes, I
said yes again! :-( She had my son in law, whom I adore, call.
They brought **** bag over first thing in the morning, set her
down in the kitchen and she immediately ran into my living
room and **** on the oriental carpet again!
Honestly, no lie! So that shot my *high* for the week all to hell!
Then I got roped into watching her Monday again.
I could just kick this daughter in the ass!
She knows because she's pregnant she can get away with more.
The house they rented doesn't allow pets, so the idiots went ahead
and rented it anyway and when work people are supposed to come
to the house I get stuck with **** bag!
Grrrrrrrrrr Somethings gonna have to give because
I'm sick of it already and they just moved in Saturday!
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HOWEDY tiny dancer,
"tiny dancer" <tinydancer357@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:AHxRi.
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>
> "Shelly" <scouvrette@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> "Luna" <lunajean@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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>>
>> Yeah, but different isn't bad. Remember?
>>
> That *is* what I said. Not different? Kind of worrisome.
> You might want to look around for pods.
>
> Anyway, I'm not at all averse to insulting people, when I think
> they're acting like total douchebags. If you don't understand the
> difference between that and calling people names, you might
> want to have your mother explain it to you. And *that* being
> said, I'm not even opposed to calling people names, but there
> are limits. I think names like "****" cross an im****tant line.
> YMMV, obviously, but only if you are a total douchebag.
LMAO. Perhaps you should post a list of what's acceptable
and what isn't in that little mind of yours.
Let's see, douchebag is in the acceptable column, **** is in the
unacceptable column. Can we all say hypocrite. And who died
and made you boss of what's acceptable and what isn't when
it comes to insults? One persons *snide* different, could be
another persons ****.
td
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Thank you for clarifyin that, td <{}: ~ ) >
Did you learn all that from your daddy?
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From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:44:18 GMT
Subject: Re: the jungle (trigger warning)
Hi, I guess here is where one puts triggers??
Your experience triggered a memory in me of the same
sort of situation. I too was in my closet, preparing for a
move, going through boxes of things, sorting, whether
to move or discard. I came upon a box I hadn't opened in
years.
My ptsd is due to an abusive childhood.
So I opened this box and found a small red book, a diary.
I kind of remembered the book, seeing it before. All of my
early memories were repressed at this time in my life.
So I eagerly opened the book to see what was inside. I began
reading a page at random. I don't recall what it said, I just
remember whatever it said triggered horror in me.
I threw the book across the room, screaming, crying hysterically.
I did that for a long time, until I was cried out, exhausted, then I
mechanically walked across the room to where the diary had landed,
picked it up, took it all the way outside, through the snow, to the
trash cans. The waste basket in the kitchen wouldn't do.
Something in me knew I had to get it out of the house.
I threw it in the trash can, went back inside, and continued on
as if it never happened. I didn't even remember it happening
at all until years later in therapy.
tiny dancer
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
tiny dancer's dogs are DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-
IMMUNE DIS-EASES and self mutilation a.k.a. The Puppy
Wizard's SYNDROME:
Newsgroups: alt.sup****t.loneliness
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 04:28:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Beer
So glad to hear Muffin is doing better. Just got home from the
hospital today myself, no malignancies but I'm in alot of pain
and can't sit at the computer more than a few minutes. Do we
know what was wrong with Muffin??
Again, I'm so glad to hear about Muffin, I just can't tell you how
much better that makes me feel. My own baby had reached her
limit last night and was about to have a nervous breakdown without
her mama.
I was told she just stood there shaking, teeth chattering, she
was a real basket case. Needless to say, she too is feeling
alot better tonight. :-) Murphy is a lab/springer spaniel mix
and she's 10 years old now.
She had an ultra sound last summer and if at all possible
get them to let you stay with her. I told them Murphy
would be alot better if I was with her so they gave it a try,
and we did just fine.
She gets really "stressed" when seperated from us, but as
long as I held her front half in place and talked to her, and
a vet tech held her back half in place they didn't have to
sedate her to do the procedure. She weighs about 65lbs.
so she can be a handful.
Be sure to let us know what they find, as I've really been
thinking about her. Okay, my time is up, have to go lay
down again.
Best Wishes,
tiny dancer
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From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 19:06:09 GMT
Subject: Re: I misjudged Muffin
Hi Nick,
Our Murphy had pancreatitis a few years ago, and sometimes
with something serious a few hours can make a big difference.
Our Murphy girl pulled through, and I'm not saying that's what's
wrong with Muffin, it's only that I learned how im****tant quick
action is in some situations.
Dogs apparently can become dehydrated pretty quickly.
They put her on IV fluids and she was hospitalized for
three days in intensive care. We love her as much as
you must love Muffin, hope I'll hear how she is before
I have to go.
Take care and give Muffin a kiss for me,
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From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:21:51 GMT
Subject: Foot-biter?????
Hi Guys,
Anybody have a better idea of what to do when Murphy
chews a spot off the top of her foot?? She nibbles away
until there's a patch about dime size where all the hair is
gone.
I put an antibiotic cream on it, and put baby booties over
her foot so she can't chew it. It works for awhile, until she
manages to work the bootie off. I try to keep up with her,
but she goes and hides somewhere in the house because
she knows she's supposed to leave that bootie on, so if I
don't catch her right away she's able to chew a bit more
before I can get the bootie back on.
I don't want to try anything with alcohol or anything because
it looks kind of raw and I don't want it to sting her. I was
thinking more if anybody had a better idea to cover it than a
baby bootie??
Thanks,
tiny dancer
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From: "Diana" <diana_pete.attw...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:16:57 +0100
Subject: Re: Stone
Going away tomorrow night & been too busy to look in much
but Stone, as Murphy, does it for nerve / 'comfort' - a bit like
I chew my fingers. she ONLY does it when she's unhappy or
feels insecure, like when I'm not there or if say in the night she
feels she may not be loved enough ~ sorry to 'humanise' her
here but I don't know her exact feelings but thwe patterns are
that obvious.
When, as she is now, she's right there beside me she's the
happiest, brightest & most.. well she's just brimming with
love & joy and for the sake of me just being careful to
prevent her from feeling bad / protecting her from herself
when I can't be there, I'm not going to zonk out her normal,
everyday 'brightness'.
I had to go out all day yesterday, so collared her & gave her
a big bone to pre-occupy her while I left. Unfortunately the
collar fell off & she got her 'knee' quite badly. Pete got home
before I did & he said she literally cowered from him - so
the B******d told her off!!!
These things don't help & I am battling every day to educate
Pete into being a little more sympathetic.... I think I would
find her problems easier if he weren't so quick to shout at her.
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http://website.lineone.net/~diana_pete.attwood
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Newsgroups: alt.animals.dog
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 04:08:26 GMT
Subject: Stone
I'm still having a problem getting all the messages, but I read
something about Stone chewing herself?? I have to agree here,
I don't know why your vet said it would affect her quality of life.
I hear all the time about dogs being on prozac and it helping alot.
Murphy gets in periods where she chews herself too, especially
the tops of her feet and her tail. It seems like certain times of the
year with her, like fall time she does more chewing on herself.
She doesn't sound as bad as Stoney, but my vet did tell me it
was "nerves". Like once she starts gnawing away on a part
of her, she just keeps at it. Sometimes I put stuff on her for
itching, like spray some sort of benedryl product, the vet has
given her oral benedryl too, to help with itching.
We do use an oatmeal shampoo to bathe her and that seems to
help. It's supposed to help calm the skin. Sorry if any of these
things have already been mentioned, but I only caught a part of
this story.
tiny dancer
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Self mutilation in dogs it the SAME as self mutilation in people,
jack.
We've got a couple of self mutilators postin here as you'll see in
other posts.
Newsgroups: alt.sup****t.trauma-ptsd
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:12:18 GMT
Subject: Re: Why I'm so pissed off at whats going on
Hi Larry,
It's okay, they can maybe catch a couple of us off guard for a
little while but all they end up doing is showing us in some
ways how far we've come in our therapy.
Like for instance, I can't stand these women who say stuff
like "I don't know if I could ever shoot anybody?" in that
whimpy voice. I know I could blow away some asshole if
they were trying to get to me in a heartbeat.
I know I'd use the little Smith & Wesson my husband got
me, but I sure do like to rack up his Remington. I like the
feeling of power that sound gives me.
He says it would stop a bear and I believe that. And that's
why I like my big dogs around me. Whiskey, the ridgeback/
rottie mix has the grace and elegance of the ridgeback but
the rottie jaws all the way and she hates men.
It takes her a long time to warm up to the "good guys", bad
guys forget it. She loves women, but for some reason men
have to be around for quite some time before she accepts them.
We think she was abused by a man/men before we rescued
her because of her reactions to them. And you know those
ridgebacks were originally lion hunters so she runs like the
wind and has these incredible muscles in her whole body.
But when her jaws grab something my husband can pick all
80lbs of her off the floor and she just hangs on to whatever
she's got in her mouth. Murphy is only about 65 lbs, but
very protective also, and the new baby, although only about
30 lbs right now, looks to be the biggest of all judging by the
size of her paws.
She's a little hellion right now though, teething and biting
everything that gets in her way. She's replacing Coda who
died last year. He was 120lbs of muscle with the lowest
growl you'd ever want to hear, made peoples hair
stand on end when you heard that growl.
So see how far I've come with my therapy. I'm sure when I
began my therapist didn't ever in a million years think I'd end
up with a pistol and a pack of big dogs, but hey, he says
whatever works for you.
tiny dancer
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Newsgroups: alt.sup****t.trauma-ptsd
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 04:38:43 GMT
Subject: Re: Why I'm so pissed off at whats going on
"Ming the Mirthless" <M...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:9qlkj2$tdd$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:husz7.10983$%B6.3590222@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Thanks Larry, you said it so well. Lots of us have similar
> > triggers and different reactions. I know that "deer in the
> > headlights" stance well. Frozen in fear. I wish I did that
> > fight or flight thing better. If I'm in the right place I can
> > sometimes do the fight, but if not the flight always escapes
> > me, it ends up being frozen in fear. So many times I've
> > opened my mouth to scream and nothing comes out,
> > even the scream is frozen inside.
> I bet you give a good blow job though.
> Ming
Ya know what Ming, I didn't really see how cruel you guys really
are over there in alt war, but I see it now. We've got others here
who might be triggered by this as I am.
Right now all I can say is I hope someday somebody rapes you.
tiny dancer
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So see how far I've come with my therapy. I'm sure when I
began my therapist didn't ever in a million years think I'd end
up with a pistol and a pack of big dogs, but hey, he says whatever
works for you.
tiny dancer
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Newsgroups: alt.animals.dog
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 01:35:41 GMT
Subject: Re: DUDLEY AND DYLAN
My daughter did bring the crates, but if you put Monty in a crate
she howls and cries until you take her out again. I've been trying
to keep her awake, outside in the fresh air, running and playing
all day. She does get tired and sleep eventually, but so far I'm
only getting about 5 hours sleep a night.
She goes to sleep much earlier than I'm able to, and is up
again much before I'd like! :-( Thank goodness one of my
other daughters came by today and ran them around the back
yard with tennis balls for a good part of the afternoon as I was
so exhausted I just collapsed on my bed!
Only four more nights to go, hope I make it.
tiny dancer
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Newsgroups: alt.animals.dog
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:41:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Just unbelievable
"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:3C1A4C15.37C92B3B@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I think the reason the issues of protecting dogs are because,
> Human relation****ps always involve pain, diplomacy, hard
> work in building, conditions, giving, and often unbelievable
> emotional damage.
>
> A dog is close and personal. Their fur soaks up tears, They
> don't judge.
>
> They are the only being who you can share your true self. It's
> unconditional. You give little and reap such enormous returns
>.They would give their life to you without a thought. Such noble
> beasts being tortured is beyond such comprehension that
> those blessed with such relation****ps is more than the
> passionate dog lover can bear.
>
> Such injustice goes past laws that bind people by government
> or sense. It's something much more primordial than that.
>
> We all know by law, a dog is property. That makes no sense at
> all. it just doesn't compute. It's far MORE than that. I am a
> basically non-violent person, and I can think of only one thing
> that would bring me to the point of murder. This wouldn't
> necessarily be personal defense, family defense, but without a
> doubt, the defense of my dog.
Totally agree with you here. And I think the laws should be
changed. A dog is much more than personal property, they
have enormous feelings and emotions. We who love them
have seen their emotions. In fact I read somewhere that dogs
feel things even more than humans.
Some dog researcher, can't remember his name. When one of
my daughters dogs died unexpectedly her other dog was devastated.
Coda was a huge chocolate lab, way too heavy for her husband
to move alone, so when we arrived at their house it took three
grown men to carry him out. After they carried him down to our
SUV her other dog Brandy went over to the spot where Coda had
lain, sat right down there. I went to sit beside her and comfort her
and as she looked up at me I saw a huge tear in each of her eyes.
She knew, she understood, and she 'hurt' deeply.
My own dog Murphy is very intelligent, understands most,
if not all, of what's being said, going on around her. If you
study most animals I think you'll find they share deep emotions.
In my opinion they should be valued, shown the same amount
of respect and protection under the law as we humans. I know
my opinions probably don't conform to most, but I value life,
any life, and I don't value a human life 'more' than that of my
dog.
If anyone hurt my dog I wouldn't think twice about shooting
them if that was the only way to make them stop. She is just
like any other member of my family.
tiny dancer
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Newsgroups: alt.animals.dog
From: "tiny dancer" <tinydancer...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 05:16:46 GMT
Subject: Re: puppy cries while chewing toys?
"weric" <we...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:weric-8655A1.23593518022002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> we just adopted a 4 month old hound mix puppy (i think
> bloodhound and beagle) from a no kill shelter. he has a few
> squeaky toys and when he's chewing on them he whimpers /
> cries. why is that? could this be part of teething, or maybe the
> squeaking bothers him?
> anyone else ever have this? is it a problem?
I don't think it's any problem, murphy does that sometimes.
I always took it to be some show of emotion, who knows what
goes through their minds sometimes. Sometimes, if she's got
something really special, she'll pace around the house crying
'searching' for just the right hiding spot, as if hubby or I might
steal it!
Since she's an only child it's not as if some
other dog is going to come along and 'find' it. :-)
td
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