HOWEDY diddler you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic
life long incurable malignant mental case and backyard
puppy miller and professional dog training FRAUD an
SCAM ARTIST,
"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns9B224BFD7F45Adiddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I'm trying to explain "Don't allow that" to Reka's co-owner.
Ahh, you mean "MANAGEMENT", diddler?
THAT'S INSANE, diddler; "MANAGEMENT ALWAYS FAILS":
Re: Dog Whisperer Week on National Geographic
Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006
"Handsome Jack Morrison" <handsomejackmorri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote in message news:i222d25gibj3sdv85pg8u370e4m4ap1v10@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
again, "****" happens.
It's possible to avoid "****" from happening altogether,
by never doing anything, but that doesn't help dogs very
much, does it?
But as some folks are wont to say: "Management
always fails."
It'll fail for you one day, too. And I bet it already
has, probably many times, in fact.
The more dogs you try to manage, the more
things you try to do, the more times it'll fail.
Because I've see too much "****" actually happen,
and know that it's impossible to totally prevent.
"****" has happened a number of times just today, at
my place, because someone simply forgot to do what
he was supposed to do. He's done it correctly, oh,
maybe a thousand times now, but today he didn't, and
"****" happened.
Actually, you should feel pretty good about the fact "
that he actually shows "****" happening on his show.
--------------
lying frosty dahl wrote:
"My behaviorist friend says, however, that "management
always fails." "my aggression-specialist friend has a maxim:
"management always fails."
--------------------
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> who has no concept of the theory.
You mean she has "NO CONcept" of an unsubstantiated
presumptuHOWES suppHOWEsitiHOWEN, diddler??
> It's bad wording.
Yeah. An bad writin too, especially comin from
the spawn of a ENGLISH teacher, eh, diddler??
> It's not even a theory..
You mean it's BUNK, diddler <{}: ~ ( >
> it just "IS"
No, it's SHEER IDIOCY, diddler <{}: ~ ( >
> Reka will sense her insecurities and lock up.
That so?
> The co-owner locks up, and tries to analyse Reka's problems.
Reka is a VICTIM of ABUSIVE IGNORAMEHOWES
BACKWARDS "koehler" trainin <{}: ~ ( >
> She's convinced that Reka needs anti-anxiety drugs
Animals DO NOT NEED anti-psychotic medications, diddler:
From: "George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D." <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Doggy advice
Scott, Jerry Howe forwarded me the letter below.
I'm glad that you referred negatively to Jerry's
habit of CAPITALIZING and HOWEING everything.
I personally hate this habit of his. I think it is his
way of diluting his authority - IME he is a very modest
fellow. However, contrary to your sneer, he is very
competent at living with dogs.
I thought I'd list a series of actions which I found
on the list, folk asking advice on what to do about
dogs doing this and that, for example:
whining,
humping, hunching,
pacing,
self mutilation - paw licking, side sucking,
spinning,
prolonged barking, barking at shadows,
overstimulated barking,
fighting, bullying other dogs,
compulsive digging,
compulsive scratching,
compulsive chewing,
frantic behavior,
chasing light, chasing shadow,
stealing food,
digging in garbage can,
loosing house (toilet) training.
inappropriate fearfulness
aggression.
The thing that is fascinating to me, as an ethologist who
graduated from college 50 years ago and has spent all of
the intervening time working with animals (including the
human animal), is that you never see any of these behaviors
in wild dingoes, jackals, coyotes or wolves, you don't even
see these behaviors in hyenas (who aren't dog related).
You see these behaviors in human managed animals, especially
animals who live with neurotic hysterical humans.
As Sam Corson (Pavlov's last student) demonstrated for
nearly 50 years at Ohio University (Oxford, O.) there
is no treatment more useful for dogs than tender loving
care.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph. D., F. R. S. H., Diplomate,
Academy of Behavioral Medicine
------------
> so she won't freeze.
Druggin WONself into euphoria won't stop WON from "freezing"
OR give them the ability to LEARN HOWE to pupperly cope with
life <{}: ~ ( >
> Reka is NOT the one who needs drugs. It's the handler.
Neither of them needs DRUGS, diddler, they both NEED
TO LEARN apupriate trainin an handlin methods <{}: ~ ( >:
From: "Dr. Von" <drv...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: 12 Sep 2005 10:52:19 -0700
Subject: Re: Clicker Training for Dogs Newsgroups?
Jen wrote:
> I would love to know of one as well. If there was
> enough people interested maybe we could start one.
> I've just started clicker training my dog and have
> been doing the positive training for a while now.
> I think it's great!!
> Jen
> "artbylucy" <artbyl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:OMudnRS23OLEc7zenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Hello,
> > Does anyone know of a dedicated newsgroup for
> > positive-only dog training, in particular clicker
> > training?
> > Thanks,
> > Lucy
Jen, your request for a positive only dog training list,
needs the same answer as I give the folk who ask why I
don't have a list for what I do with biofeedback.
The method is so simple, and if you adopt it and relate
to your dog in such a positive manner you won't have any
more problems and there is no need for any more technique.
With Puppies we Ph.D. psychologists have been outflanked
by the entirely practical and effective methods described
in http://www.tinyurl.com/7bl5u.
Free download, nothing
sold, no mailing list, no distribution of your name. Free
sup****t if needed.
With ADHD kids I provide similar information at
www.drbiofeedback.com and there is no need for
a list dealing with problems with kids. Apply
as directed and have happy healthy doggies or
kiddies.
Not difficult.
George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D., F.R.S.H.
P.S. jerk and choke, spanking, shocking, scruff shake,
choke, chin chucks, all those negatives, denial of
affection etc. are harmful, dranging, obscenities.
You might want to consider Pavlov's typology to
understand "hard and soft dogs" - essentially he
taught that there are outward and inward responding
organisms in weak and strong nervous systems and if
you grasp this firmly you'll shape your training
methods effectively.
Punishment ALWAYS deranges behavior, and so is
recommended and given only by deranged humans.
Of course, it doesn't matter if we are talking
dogs, cats, people, sheep, even husbands. Dr. Von
------------------
> Reka does everything she needs to do.
No. Reka is an emotional wreck:
diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Oh My God
Two nights ago, Reka started acting frantic about 11pm.
I let her out. It's coyote breeding season, and she is fascinated
by them. I assumed she wanted to go out and listen to them
howling. I brought her in, and she spent the night franticly and
desperately demanding to go out.
After about 4am, I finally put her in the barn, locked
securely in a horse stall for the night.
She came in by morning, and had a normal active, playful
day. Last night, at 11pm, She franticly DEMANDED to go
out. I let her out, and brought her in. At midnight, she
DEMANDED to be let out. I let her out, but I went out
to the barn and got a crate, and decided she could
spend the rest of the night in the crate. We were NOT
going to do a repeat of the previous night AGAIN.
At 3am, she whined so loudly, I then decided not to
allow her to set a precedence of this type of behavior.
So I took her crate out to the heated gun shop and
decided to let her act out her bad behavior in peace,
and send a message that her obnoxious behavior
was not going to be tolerated.
This morning at 6am, I went out, and she had vomited
(normal looking dog food) and defecated in her crate
(not normal for Reka, but then, She normally didn't
sleep in a crate, NEVER gets corrected (she never does
anything to GET corrected for) and was probably nerves
from the outside experience, plus reprimand and solitary
confinement.)
I let her in the house while I cleaned the cage. Hoping
I had made my point. She acted healthy and normal, and
playful and chipper. But then I noticed a spot of blood on
the bathroom linoleum and in the bathtub. I was the last to
take a bath, so I knew REKA was the last in the tub.
That blood didnt come from me, so it HAD to come from
Reka. Thinking about her nearing the end of her heat cycle,
I still didnt think a lot about it. I thought her obnoxious
behavior the past couple nights WAS her heat cycle..
and corresponding coyote breeding season.
Then while feeding her breakfast, I saw the whole story.
She had blood (fresh) streaming from her RECTUM. UhOh.
I had her at the vets office this morning before he
opened. He just said her intestines were all bunched
up with huge air pockets.
Was there any chance that she ate strings of carpets? I
said, last Thursday we took a plastic tarp out of the yard
that we had over the grill to protect it from the weather
because she was chewing it. That would explain
EVERYTHING.
The strings are binding and bunching up her intestines,
cutting her internally and tying her intestines in knots as
it works its way through.
Reka is in a very critical situation. She is going to
require extensive and expensive surgery that I cant
afford. I will manage.
Even with the surgery, her condition will be critical
for awhile. Scary thoughts. I would never have
treated her the way I did last night, if I had even a
clue that she was sick. I feel so badly.
--
diddy
----------------
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> I try to explain projecting your will, assurance,
> and confidence to the dog,
Oh, you mean PSYCHIC dog trainin, AGAIN, diddler??
> but also let the dog know the only way they are
> going to leave the field is to track their way off.
Oh, you mean instead of goin to a road an settin DHOWEN
indicatin the subject "WENT <---- THAT'AWAY----->"??
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> Reka and I have no problems.
Of curse not~!
> But Reka senses, with the other handler, doubt.
You mean his other handler won't jerk an choke an shock him.
> And when there is doubt, she stands there until the doubt is resolved.
You mean instead of just barging ahead makin the same
mistakes over an over again like HOWE you do, diddler??
> With the co-owner, it never happens.
Naaaah??
> And the handler feels that the issue is that Reka quits.
Trackin is INSTINCTIVE to dogs, diddler.
> I keep explaining to the handler that she is allowing
> her to quit, and DON'T LET HER DO THAT!
She's probably waitin for a COOKIE, diddler.
> Since you are not allowed to touch the dog in tracking,
Oh, you mean LIKE THIS?:
Subject: Re: teaching dogs "jobs"
(They were taught NEVER EVER to step on a road.... No foot
EVER touches the road!) Danny lost a tracking test once,
because the test crossed a seldom used gravel road. When he
reached the road, a car just happened to go by. He refused to
cross the road, and when I took him by the collar and ****ged
him, I was Disqualified for aiding the dog.
Danny simply will NOT cross a road..
when he was intact, not EVEN for a ***** in season.
Now you have a dog that...
WHOOOOPS!
Whoops, Danny And Taya run away from
unsecured yard and imbecile owner BUT
CAREFULLY AVOID CROSSIN A ROAD.
Will they survive life out in the wilderness
out amongst diddler's coyote traps?
Will they get mistaken for coyotes and sold
to the highest bidder at the fur auction?
Or will they live again to do a help dummy diddy
do a demonstration on safe and responsible pet
owner****p in the kitchen with the vet's office kitten?
Stay tuned, fans...
> or it's considered guiding, or direct the dog, she wants
> to know HOW to get the dog to move forward.
Hmmmm. Ever thought of PRAISIN the dog, diddler??
> I can't seem to explain to her how to project "WILL"
> "CONFIDENCE" and "ASSURANCE" forward.
NHOWE you're talkin like cesar millan, z dog wheeesperer <{}: ~ ) >
> Yet when she has doubt, she manages to project that forward quite
easily.
Back to PSYCHIC dog trainin, AGAIN, eh, diddler??
> This lack of communication is costing me a lot of money
> and nearly a friend****p, because she just doesn't get what
> I am telling her.
Perhaps THAT'S on accHOWENTA you're blowin
smoke up her ignorameHOWES arse, eh, diddler??
> She's angry with me,
EXXXCELLENT~!
> because I won't accept that it's a dog problem, and
> I'm telling her the problem is with her.
ALL temperament and behavior problems are
CAUSED BY MISHANDLIN, diddler <{}: ~ ( >
> She needs to take all emotions out of the training.
INDEED? Perhaps THAT'S HOWE COME your
PSYCHIC TRAININ METHOD FAILS, eh, diddler??
> Take drugs if she has to.
What kinda drugs does diddler take, diddler??
> She has ever more performance anxiety, and telegraphs
> it to the dog until the dog is almost non-functional.
THAT'S INSANE, diddler <{}: ~ ( >
> Yet the dog never has any troubles with me at all.
Of curse not~!
> She is a little tracking machine.
ALL DOGS TRACK, diddler <{}: ~ ( >
> She also tracks for any other stranger who believes
> that she can track. She simply can't/won't track for the
> handler/co-owner who believes she's going to fail
No, diddler, she won't WORK for someWON who
AIN'T INTIMIDATIN CHOKIN an SHOCKIN her.
> So how can you teach a handler to project confidence
> and willpower who just doesn't have any?
PERHAPS instead of relyin on PSYCHIC dog trainin you
should study your own FREE COPY of The Sincerely Incredibly
Freakin Insanely Simply Amazing, Majestic Grand Master
Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Goat, Ferret, Monkey, SpHOWES,
And Horsey Wizard's 100% CONSISTENTLY NEARLY
INSTANTLY SUCCESSFUL FREE WWW Wits' End
Training Method Manual:
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard/777witsendmanual.htm
> I tried to explain to her it's the same with horses.
Oh, you mean like your own horse whom you couldn't
keep restrained on your own pupperty despite her
electrified fence and stall, diddler??
> Horses are afraid of two things.
>
> 1) Things that move
> 2) things that don't
That's ABSURD, diddler. Horses are AFRAID
of STUFF on accHOWENTA they ain't got
CONfidence in their ABUSER <{}: ~ ( >
> So how do you get a horse that lives in a fence
> 4 feet high to jump a wall at 6 feet?
Tell us HOWE you TRAINED your own horse to
escape your electrified pasture and stall, diddler??
> You throw your heart over the fence.
Ahhh, PROBLEMO, eh, diddler?
Well, no wonder I've not been able to embarrass you
outta here. I've been cutting off your goddamned head
and hiding it from you and you keep putting it back on.
I shouldda known I shoulda just cut your heart out but
I didn't think you HAD one.
> If you fail that, the horse runs out, ****es, or balks.
That's INSANE, diddler.
> All bad things, because the rider usually falls off.
ONLY if the rider is a IMBECILE, diddler <{}: ~ ( >
> How do you get a horse to walk down the road with a
> noisy combine coming at them, and let them know it's ok?
You'd have to teach the horse some CONfidence in that
IT'S SAFE with you IN CON-TROLL, eh, diddler??
> You project the confidence and assurance.
That's MALARKEY, diddler <{}: ~ ( >
> You are the will power of the team.
That's INSANE, diddler.
> You are the force.
THAT'S INSANE, diddler <{}: ~ ( >
> If your heart falters, the horse will probably kill you
> and itself. (it may anyway.. but your very survival
> when you are caught on a road with no side ditches,
> and a combine taking up the entire road is roaring
> straight at you, depends on your being able to be a
> leader to that horse!)
Ever try driving a team in city traffic, diddler?
> If you panic, you are toast!
INDEED?
> It's really easy to explain projecting calm,
That so? Are you Kreskin?
> and and will force to a horse person.
That's BULL****, diddler <{}: ~ ( >
> (Because if you can't, the horse person either becomes
> too fearful to ride, or they Darwin out)
Ahhh, kinda like you OBEDIENCE trainers, eh, diddler??
> So how do you explain projection
You mean PSYCHIC DOG TRAININ, diddler??
> to a dog/non-dog person who really believes
> they ARE a dog person and a trainer?
Oh, THAT'S EZ, diddler~!
I simply QUOTE your own POSTED CASE HISTORY
of DISMAL FAILURE at HURTIN INTIMIDATIN an
MURDERIN innocent defenseless dumb critters an
LYIN abHOWET IT.
LIKE THIS:
From: diddy
Subject: Re: Dog chewing up floors
in thread news:aad9p2hg0aei5nijqludfvqhb8g1l0jsaj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mmmtobler...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following
words:
> I, for one, am glad that the Puppy Wizard comes across
> as a complete loon given what his advice is since it
> makes it less likely that people will take it instead
> of the advice of someone else I think gives better advice.
For the record, The Puppy wizard over-rates himself. But
"his" (tm) methods are pretty much tried and true methods
that trainers have used and some still use today.
There are better methods out there now. But the ones posted
in his manual (now that he has removed the advice to SPIKE
a dog's temperature to dangerous levels) are sound. they work..
no matter what we think of the puppy-wizard and his packaging...
"his methods" <cough> are just as valid as anyone else's
"His methods" can stand some updating, and he definitely
needs to look at some repackaging.
Hopefully others add a slicker delivery to grab attention,
but truthfully, when you look at the cat fights that go on
here, and stand back and watch in perspective, it's rather
hard to determine the sane ones from the lunatics.
In fact, an awful lot of people here come off looking
rather tainted. A person needs to have a good filtering
device to sort out the noise.
TPW just has a problem that's too painfully obvious.
--------------------
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> I contend she is NOT a dog trainer until she
> has this element that she's missing.
You mean PSYCHIC DOG TRAININ, diddler?
> She thinks I'm harsh, and a bad trainer,
No, diddler. You're PATHETIC MISERABLE STINKIN
ROTTEN LYIN ANIMAL MURDERIN MENTAL CASE
and PROFESSIONAL DOG TRAININ FRAUD an SCAM
ARTIST and backyard puppy miller.
> because I can't explain it.
You mean on accHOWENTA IT DOESN'T EXXXIST??
SHAAAZZZAAAMMM???
From: Mike (m.bidd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Info. on the puppy wizard?
Date: 2004-07-18 14:27:02 PST
> > Oh, and did I mention his methods work, ya nuff said.
> > Mike
> Ok Mike which part worked for you?
It helped clear problems from my dogs in the
field using the can penny distraction technique.
Works like a charm.
My dogs get distracted easy from their jobs ie,
retrieving or training to find lost people, oh did
I mention that I am a Search and Rescue Team
Leader.
Sorry that slipped my mind.
I have read volumes of training books and don't
know where people get that Jerry copied others
work as I have NEVER come across his methods
before. I would like to see proof.
Just like Jerry outlined I eliminated problems one
at at time as they arose. I used to try and train to
the way I wanted them but this is backward, you
train out the problems leaving what you want left over.
Funny part is the second dog who had the same
problems as the other didn't need correcting for
some of his habits after I cleared it from the first
dog.
Seemed he learned through osmosis.
Nice side benefit there.
It nearly came to giving them up to a 3rd party
trainer as they were not performing well. The
VAST majority of working dog trainers are
agressive in their actions with the dogs.
I tried it and it didn't work and guess what I
was at my "Whits End" then someone I new
turned me onto Jerry and the rest is history.
I referred friends and families to Jerry's manual
and all have had great results. Starting puppies
out on the distraction technique is especially
good because they never develop the habit.
I had my sisters dog healing, sitting and down
stay reliably at 8-9 weeks. The first night home
following Jerrys advice we ditched the crate and
put the pup on the floor beside the bed and after
2 whimpers NOT A SOUND OUT OF THAT DOG
FOR 6 HRS! first night, that has never happened
in all my days.
Sorry, the man understands dogs its that simple.
Mike
===============
> I'm not claiming to be a good people trainer.
Perhaps you should advise the TRAINING CLUB you
TRAIN at of your newest revelation, eh, diddler??
> But I'm about to beat her over the head with a clue stick
That ain't necessary, diddler. Just let her read your own
POSTED CASE HISTORY of DISMAL FAILURE,
LIES, ABUSE, an MURDERIN innocent defenseless
dumb critters, eh, diddler?
LIKE THIS:
"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns99E154DAFFD50diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
dog trainer must succeed. By nature, "Command" mentality
makes dog trainers a curmudgeonly lot. The deeper a dog
behavior digs in, the more willing a good trainer is to do
what it takes to uproot the undesired behavior.
This willingness to tackle what results in a battle of wills
is well pronounced in dog trainers. And if you think that's
something, try horse trainer lists, where the ante is upped X
1000 pounds and poor results can KILL you!
However, "nice little horsey " types are rarely successful
in horse training and rather self extingui****ng bringing
about more moderation in established techniques.
BWEEEAAAAHAHAAA~!
"I would not allow that behavior AT ALL. Inconsistancies
are going to come back and bite you. I don't understand
how, you as a trainer, don't comprehend this.
Having a 100% reliable dog does not
EVER allow for mitigated cir***stances.
A well-trained dog is a lifestyle.
You teach a dog to LEAVE it. A dog should be
taught to obey. I can call any of my dogs off
in full chase and ask them to drop anything
they are doing, and they will.
I think that should be expected of any breed, and
those who do not teach "leave it" fundementals
atre missing the boat"
BWEEEAAAHAHAAAA~!~!~!
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
HOWEDY diddler you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic
life long incurable malignant mental case and backyard
puppy miller and professional dog training FRAUD an
SCAM ARTIST,
"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns9ACB644452D0Adiddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.knbc.com/family/16712239/detail.html
> Unvaccinated 2 year old dog finds itself in impoundment
> quarantine after getting loose and biting a woman. A
> shelter worker made a mistake and euthanized the dog in
> quarantine.
Naaaaah? SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE??
NO. NOT "SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE??";
THAT WAS PREDICTABLE.
Dog lovers who work at "shelters" LOVE to MURDER
innocent defenseless dumb critters for FUN an PROFIT.
LIKE THIS:
diddler wrote:
"I released a dog from the pound. She was dumped for biting.
Knowing that most of the time, a dog that bites is the child's
fault, I brought her home to see if she was salvageable in a
childless home.
She at least deserved an evaluation. She seemed fine,
then the following day, with no provocation, she lunged
for my throat. This was an unprovoked attack, and I knew
there was probably something physically wrong with the
dog (perhaps a brain tumor?) and regardless, she was a
HUGE liability risk, and I could never place her.
So I took her to the vet for euthanasia.
The vet kept sticking her for 15 minutes, and it was the
ugliest screaming death I ever witnessed.... until I had
my old 18 year old companion diagnosed with systemic
organ failure. Her old body wore out. I took her to the vet.
Apparently poor circulation caused her not to use the
euthanasia shot properly. The vet kept giving her one
shot after another, and she dies a slow agonizing death,
screaming, and looking at me in betrayal and dismay.
I wanted to grab her from the vet, and take her home,
and shoot her. It would have been over faster," DIDDLER,
lyin animal murderin COWARD and MENTAL CASE.
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >
DIDDY ON CATS (shoot, don't trap)
From: diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Fur Auction Ohio State Trappers Association
Xenia Ohio Feb 15 2002
Date: 2002-02-16 12:06:21 PST
If I can get him away from the Olympics, I'll have him
answer that. He doesn't know how to change the identity on
the computer, so if "I" answer this post... it's really
Jeff. And no.... we went to watch. He sold nothing. btw..
are these "CATS" feral domestic cats? (sorry not familiar
with Oklahoma) (I just shoot the DSH cats. Jeff caught a
couple cats last summer while nuisance trapping an orchard,
but it wasn't intentional)
--
diddy
------------------
OR you could just lock them in a crate
an let your dogs tear them to shreds.
LIKE THIS:
Eatin your vet's office kitty won't cause peritonitis:
From: diddy
(di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: What would you do in this situation?
Date: 2002-05-31 14:49:22 PST
Actually, I borrowed the vets office kitten once for a
couple days for school education on pet care and safe
handling as well as responsible pet owner****p.
I kept the kitten over night in a crate within a crate
and yet my dog (yes, Angelic Danny, as well as Taya
and Toby tore that kittne to threads from between the
crate bars. (apparently he stuck his paws through the
crate to bat at the dogs. I was out doing yard work
and rushed in to find the little kittens pieces and
parts being torn through by ALL the dogs.
I called my girl friend to come get my dogs. I screamed
displeasure, and stalked out with the kitten. Danny, et
al spent 3 days in a kennel until I finally felt like I
could interact with them without doing bodily harm. All
three dogs were never touched, but knew they had done
something so unspeakable that I wouldn't associate with
them and they got banished.
To this day, Taya (mom and Dad's dog) and Danny will
not look at a cat. When confronted with one, Danny wees
himself and cowers hiding behind me for help.
I'm not saying this would work this way with all dogs,
But mom and dad now have a house cat, and she has
never been harmed by any of the dogs. Danny is there
all the time, unsupervised, and has no interest in harming
the cat.
---------------------------------
OR you could just BLUDGEON a innocent defenseless
kitty kat after HURTIN IT in your strangle leg hold noose
trap.
LIKE THIS:
From: diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse?
Date: 2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST
Lyn wrote:
> > You know I'm a cat abuser because I let my cat out.
> > Alison
>
> Well, it totally depends upon where you live, as to whether
> or not doing so is in the best interest of your animal.
> Abuser isn't a term I would use, and I am a "cat group"
> regular.
Here it would be abuse. If you like your cat you keep it
home. I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
animal trapline.
This morning there was a cat in a snare. Ordinarily,
an animal caught in a snare can be released unharmed.
One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes (and the
complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)
Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals,
to me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they
can't become lunch.. whatever.
Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
spine) around the waist area.
This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to extricate this cat
was exceedingly difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because
I feared damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I
imagined this cat was not likely to survive.
It would have been much simpler to dispatch the unfortunate
cat and take out the dead body. Instead, this cat wore a
collar. it deserved a chance, and the owner deserved closure.
(no id on the collar).
It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken to
the vet for examination. I will probably never know if this
particular cat survives the experience or not.
People in the area were aware that trapping was being done and
apparently still let their cats run free, b oth endangered by
the traps and by the coyotes being targeted that are causing a
problem with their cat population.
Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have tried
to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have been a
kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be attracted to
this type of trap, in this position, and then they weren't
supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation.
If you like your pet, you keep them home.
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Unless of curse, you got some EXXXTRA ammo left
over from last year. Then you could just SHOOT them.
diddler wrote:
"I was in that position once when Becky was hit
by a car when my son left the yard gate open."
Fromdiddy <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:43:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Rural person needs help euthanizing his loving pet.
I think sedating her with benedryl until she was overly sleepy, and
injecting her with Epsom salts IV should cause such chemical
imbalance that it should do the trick.
I'm not sure how humane that would be, It would cause a heart attack.
Well placed gun shots are probably the most immediate, effective and
humane, but then, you said that was not acceptable. Carbon dioxide is
NOT humane.. it's slow and agonizing as the other g***** in car
exhaust burn out the lungs causing agonizing death.
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
OR you could just shock a RESCUE dog till IT GOES
INSANE an DIES from STRESS from constant shockin.
LIKE THIS:
Subject: Re: untrainable beagle! NEED HELP
"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns9834C98CEC696danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in thread news:BO2Lg.4755$xV.1684@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"graham
fandango!"
> <gmey...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words: i have
> a ten year old beagle who i got from the animal shelter 5 years
> ago. its pretty clear he was abused in some form before he ended
> up in the shelter; when ever i reach for something, like the tv
> remote, too quickly he flinches. he gets scared when i sweep the
> kitchen floor and hides under the bed.
I have one too. I don't know her past history,or her age.
I use an antibark collar on her for my sanity. She's very
quiet, until I take it off. It doesn't train her not to bark,
because she barks when the collar is off. (beagles "Do
that")
There may not even be batteries in it, but she doesn't
bark... just in case.I'd supervise the first time you try
it, because I've heard of some dogs barking, and going
so spazzy over them that they died.
I really don't think you are going to train a dog that
age, especially a beagle, NOT to bark. I see your
options as being:
1) anti-bark collar
a)citronella
b)electronic
c)bark buster (your neighbors will
probably complain asmuch about
that as the howlng)
2) surgical debarking
3) placing the dog and accepting the consequences
4) moving
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"diddy" <none> wrote in message
news:Xns9A74B7CCF8817diddydiddynet@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<barney...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spoke these words of wisdom
in news:
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> The shock is minimal and nothing to worry about. There are 2 different
> types that frequent this group: the high falutin city folk that believe
> dogs should be treated like children, and the answer for any problem is
> "enroll them in class and spend $300 to teach them not to do it, and put
> them in time-out, but be sure their paw socks are on before stepping
> outside if under 50 degrees, etc."
First, I know of a dog with an antibark collar, who
protested so violently, he spazzed out and killed himself.
He was found dead in his kennel the next morning.
What dog training schools charge $300?
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But for FUN you can just jerk choke an shock a RESCUE
dog till IT GOES INSANE an then just MURDER IT.
LIKE THIS:
diddler wrote:
"I released a dog from the pound. She was dumped for biting.
Knowing that most of the time, a dog that bites is the child's
fault, I brought her home to see if she was salvageable in a
childless home.
She at least deserved an evaluation. She seemed fine,
then the following day, with no provocation, she lunged
for my throat. This was an unprovoked attack, and I knew
there was probably something physically wrong with the
dog (perhaps a brain tumor?) and regardless, she was a
HUGE liability risk, and I could never place her.
So I took her to the vet for euthanasia.
The vet kept sticking her for 15 minutes, and it was the
ugliest screaming death I ever witnessed.... until I had
my old 18 year old companion diagnosed with systemic
organ failure. Her old body wore out. I took her to the vet.
Apparently poor circulation caused her not to use the
euthanasia shot properly. The vet kept giving her one
shot after another, and she dies a slow agonizing death,
screaming, and looking at me in betrayal and dismay.
I wanted to grab her from the vet, and take her home,
and shoot her. It would have been over faster," DIDDLER,
lyin animal murderin COWARD and MENTAL CASE.
SEE?
HOWEDY diddler you pathetic, semi-litterlate daughter
of a English teacher, you miserable stinkin rotten lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic
life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL
CASE and PROFESSIONAL dog trainin FRAUD, SCAM
ARTIST, BACKYARD PUPPY-MILLER, and SPECIAL
EDUCATION R.E.A.D. program ASSISTANT TEACHER /
DOG TRAINER,
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
HOWE COME would diddler set her INFORMATIVE posts to
EXXXPIRE in six days? Is she EMBARRASSED by her own
words, the lyin animal murderin punk thug coward mental case
fraud an SCAM ARTIST, like montana, professora melanie
chang, cindy title moore of k9web.com, matty a.k.a. Rocky and
not so happy, not so handsome, not so gentle jackass, not even
jack morrison, a.k.a. BIG DADDY a.k.a. DOGMAN a.k.a.
tommy sorenson of sorenson's Retriever PUPPY MILL and
SHOCK COLLAR SALES??
Are they EMBARRASSED by their own words, the lyin animal
murderin punk thug coward mental cases frauds an SCAM ARTISTS?
matty aka Rocky EXXXPLAINS HOWE COME:
"Rocky" <2d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
For reasons I'll only explain privately, I've gone no
archive, and it's a shame. Once in a while, while
looking for something else, I'll run into an old post
of mine. What an idiotic response!
Whoops.
BWEEEAAAHAHAAAHAAHAAA!~!~!
Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS?:
"Cappy the beagle killed one of my ducklings today.
Tuck grabbed a leg, and swallowed a leg and thigh
before I could get him.
a month ago, he almost died from swallowing a
chicken wing. Now I'm sweating all over again.
I think he's never going to be allowed out ever
again without a muzzle! (he seems alright thus far.
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >
Re: Tuck's SAR experience
"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns982D2E8C7C9D6danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just came in from putting chickens to bed, and Tuck
had my computer keyboard on the floor, and there are
now two keys missing.
Ornery git
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >
"diddy" <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns9839861A82FF6danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in thread news:m1s5g2lsio01rsk9iisfcjotfqigmljjnp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Janet B <j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled
the following words:
> Curious how many choose to crate a dog forever,
> whenever they leave the house and/or overnight,
> or how many choose to wean from household
> crate usage (usage being shutting the dog in the
> crate, not the dog choosing to hang out there) at
> some specific ages or maturity levels.
> Not for how long during a workday, but how
> long for a dog's lifespan?
I plan on crating Tuck whenever NOT supervised
(which isn't often.. he usually is with me) Until the
day that he quits tearing apart everything in sight
when I leave the room.
A dog proof room doesn't work.
He's figured out door knobs. He's figured out cupboards,
and he loves to tug open dresser drawers. He's not
interested in anything left out in the open.
He's into treasure hunting, figuring anything worth
secreting away is worth his effort discovering. He's
discovered the sock stash is in drawers.
Trash cans? --not interested.
Counter tops? --not interested
Counter tops -with food? --not interested
Dog food sitting on the floorin open bags? --not interested
razor blades from bathroom drawers? ... Very cool stuff!
Mom really gets bent too!
nope.. His crate is going to be occupied for
some time to come.
As for the beagle.. She's never been trustworthy.
She's getting senile and never will be trustworthy,
so a crate is in her future until she crosses the bridge.
Reka, no crate at no time, She lost her crate when she was
5 months old. Both Tuck, and reka hangout in crates by choice.
Reka dens in the bathtub usually. (kind of a crate) But she
likes the beagles vantage point, because the beagles crate
is on top of Tuck's. Right next to the window so she can see
out. Tuck prefers the compartment with a view as well.
I always have to vacate him (even though the crate on top is
too small for both elkhounds, it's their preferred lookout)
when I wantto stick in the beagle.
Reka sleeps under the bed at night or in the bathtub at night
if it's really hot. She sleeps in the bathtub by day when not
watching from the penthouse suite.
Tuck is not crated at night, and has chosen to sleep in
the closet. The beagle holds down the couch, night and day.
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >
> "diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:JS76a.9623
>
>> Taya had eaten over 5 POUNDS of summer sausage!
>> I just had to laugh, because otherwise, I'd have cried.
>
> is taya an elkie? no point in crying over ingested summer sausage
> is what my mom used to say. did she get the runs?
Taya IS a 1/2 a cup a day for food elkie. When i told mom and dad
that she ate 5 POUNDS, we all marveled, my goodness! Where did she
put it all!
She went to the emergency vet clinic last night in a snowstorm
along 60 miles of ice slick roads, & blowing snow. The price
wasn't bad $120 but she had pancreatitis.
Crap, I should have induced vomiting when I realized it had happened.
Going from a regular diet of ounces in a day to 5 pounds
was bound to cause problems!
She seemed fine at the time, and I didn't think about it.
It could have been worse. There was NO fat in those summer sausages,
because they were homemade. No greasy texture, and much better than
any you buy. Because there was no fat, I had figured pancreatits
wasn't going to be a factor.
Wrong again.
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >
Oh, you mean, LIKE THIS:
"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
News:Xns993C52BAC299Bda...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
dogs aren't into beer that much. But they sure love Horse poop!
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LIKE THIS:
From: diddy <none>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:00:29 -0600
Local: Sun, Nov 11 2007 1:00 pm
Subject: And then there were......
I was prepared a few hours ago to post there were now
only two dogs. But after a trip to the Dayton Emergency
clinic, we are now only $200 poorer and brought home a
very torb'ed up beagle.
We estimate the beagle to be about 14.
This morning she had severe abdominal distress. Pacing,
whining, and crippling spasm, accompanied with the most
pitiful moans and groans you ever heard.
My husband said, if it's serious (LOOK HERE.. ANY PAIN OF
THAT MAGNITUDE IS SERIOUS!) we weren't going to fix it,
we would simply put her down. But she got out yesterday, and
indulged in a buffet of horse meadow muffins.
She may be impacted, and it might pass.
I told him she's in pain, and transient or not, we
have to do something about the pain while we
wait to see if the issue resolves or not.
So the vet said, if you aren't fixing it. Let's juice her
up on Torbugesic, healthy doses of antibiotics, with reglan
to move things along. We just treated everything. So if
there is improvement, we will assume fixable. If not.. I
will write that "And then there were two" post.
to be continued.....
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >
Eatin arsenic won't cause peritonitis:
Re: Just scheduled blood test--Zipper too
"diddy" <di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:Xns99056C3BAB8F4danny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
in thread
news:IeqdnZChtN4RX5jbnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"MauiJNP"
> <jmh1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:
> in thread news:IeqdnZChtN4RX5jbnZ2dnUVZ_uqvnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"MauiJNP"
> jmh1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> whittled the following words:
> Seems to me, that should be a standard question for
> any pet having any problems at this time.
I took Tuck in last Wednesday to the vets because two weeks
before, he had chewed some old treated lumber. Knowing that
treated lumber used to be treated with Arsenic, and he ate a
substantial amount, I took him into the emergency clinic and
they treated him for arsenic poisoning.
A week later, he still had a raw stomach, esophagus and stomach
(revealed by endoscopy). He was treated with buffers, and antibiotics
to prevent infection of the inflamed tissues. Wednesday, still not
right, but improving, I took him back in for a recheck.
The first thing the vet did, was ask what foods I was feeding.
Which I understood why, but felt considering his current history,
was rather a unnecessary question. I felt we pretty much knew
what was going on with him.
Since he was greatly improved, we decided not to do another
endoscopy and just watch him. He's 100% back to normal.
Hope Cali is too.
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >
Here's diddler "TRAININ" her neighbor's dog to stay
HOWETA her garbage and CURING his peritonitis:
From: diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
I guess if I felt Danny was threatened, it's the way I would react.
There would be none left standing to deal with the threat just in
case.
If someone hurt him, I would not let borders or
continents stop me from pursuing justice.
Then again, I always feed Danny INSIDE. If someone is feeding
his dog outside, his own dog might not mean THAT much to him.
If he was feeding his dog outside though, many dogs are food
aggressive, and that could most certainly spark a dog aggression
thing. (and if the dog was penned quietly outside, what was it
doing in his yard?)
I shot a neighbors dog one night for chasing my horses and called
him to help me find it. I would do the same for threatening my dog.
My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up trash up and down
our road for years making an unbelievable mess. When we finally
killed the culprit, the whole road cheered. Animal control had never
been able in years to catch this critter. (we think it was feral it
was certainly unkempt enough to have been....and it had been shot
at by MANY of the neighbors, but it never frightened it off enough
to keep it from NOT tearing up the road the next trash day)
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From: diddy <d...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 11:27:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Dog Shot, Neighbor Charged, Anchorage AK
Cate wrote:
> "Jeff Harper" <dummyaddr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:aqgn8c$9ss69$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > | My husband shot a dog that had been tearing up
> > | trash up and down our road for years making an
> > | unbelievable mess. When we finally killed the
> > | culprit, the whole road cheered. Animal control
> > | had never been able in years to catch this critter.
> > | (we think it was feral it was certainly unkempt
> > | enough to have been....and it had been shot at by
> > | MANY of the neighbors, but it never frightened
> > | it off enough to keep it from NOT tearing up the
> > | road the next trash day)
>
> > Y'all take killing dogs pretty lightly. I'd have tolerated
> > the trash problem before I would have killed the dog.
>
> No kidding.
>
> > But putting up with it wouldn't have been necessary.
> > The trash could have been better secured and the
> > problem would have been resolved.
>
> Yep. Where's the condemnation of the people not
> securing their trash. Especially since, IIRC, this is
> the country we're talking about.
> Cate
They were in the standard Rumpke plastic
waste containers they MUST be in.
If you are upset I advise you to keep your dogs at home.
As i repeated before, the time Danny and Taya got loose,
for all the dangers they faced out there, cars, disease,
coyotes, etc, the most immediate danger they were in,
was being shot.
This is why I immediately started canvassing the area
with full color door to door handouts emblazoned with
REWARD. DO NOT SHOOT these dogs across the top.
I knew every second they were loose, they were in grave
danger of being shot. At that time, Our dog pound was
on 20/20 for being one of the worst in the country (it's
not now, it's a modern model facility) i WANTED my
dogs there.
It meant they weren't out there being shot.
They would throw dogs in pens of 10-20 dogs, In spite
of the dirt and filth, if they got there, I had a chance of
recovery.
Roaming in this area is a very bad thing,
and people WILL shoot dogs.
Happens all the time.
If you like your dog, you keep it home.
A persons personal animals are more valueable to
them than your animal you don't think enough of to
keep at home.
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
IDIOT <{}: ~ ( >
diddler the **** stain scrawled on the walls
with her finger dipped in bloody poop:
"I was in that position once when Becky was hit
by a car when my son left the yard gate open.
Every Rescue Elkhound that I have ever had Cruciate ligament
surgery done on had straight stifles. I've never had one that
was properly angulated tear. It would make sense that a dog
with greater angulation would put more stress on the tendons,
yet the straight angulation dogs in my experience, have been
the ones with cruciate ligament tears. When you mentioned that
was her only conformational fault.. I'm thinking..
kachink! Another one!
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diddy wrote:
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> We have a beagle. Before we got our last one,
> we knew what to expect and spent a year re-enforcing
> the fence.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> What we did.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> Double fencing, hardware cloth lined on the inside.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> Wood ties under gates.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> A chicken wire apron extending out into the yard
> 12 inches.(hog ringed to the upright fencing).
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> We chose chicken wire because it was flexible
> and ground conforming. grass grows right over
> it, making it invisible and easy to mow over.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> It's tacked down by tent stakes every 10 inches.
> (this is our most considerable investment)
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> The problems with it is that it eventually disintegrates,
> rusts, pulls apart and need repair a lot.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> We placed tile blocks over the top, because
> the tent stakes stick up, and sometimes get
> hit by the lawnmower.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> Overall, it's a pretty decent system and works
> MOST of the time.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> The beagle is persistent, and tends to work the inner
> fencing, that's flimsy down, or tear it, making exit holes.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> We recently cut down a couple yard trees that broke
> down sections of the fence and they need re-enforcement.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> When the weather breaks, a whole new fence is
> in order, but the system works MOST of the time.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> We did install an underground perimeter E-fence
> at the fence line, and found a single strand 12 inch
> high electric cattle fence around the perimeter was
> just as effective, cheaper, less bothersome (no need
> to wear heavy e-collars.. especially that mess up coats),
> but both needed occassional maintenence.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> What we did.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> I admit our system fails occassionally, especially
> when snow drifts are over the top of the fences
> and erase any identifiable fenceline.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> We installed (BEFORE getting the beagle) a 100
> foot trolly line that crosses the yard.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> This is a safe, effective restraint system that has
> always worked when immediate repairs or extra
> security is desired.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> If I go away and leave the beagle outside. He goes
> to the trolly line, whether the containment system
> is currently working or not.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> It's great for emergency situations, and the $17 last
> resort system gets used for the beagle far more than
> I ever expected. It still allows reasonable exercise
> range of area and mobility. The elkhounds and the
> beagle still play avidly, and it's the cheapest piece of
> mind security ever.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> A trolly tether system is the best for tem****ary
> containment while discovering where the leak is.
> In the snow, it's easy to discover the
> leak. In the summer, it's more difficult.
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
> I do not like, or use our current underground collar system
"I admit our system fails occassionally"
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LIKE THIS:
From: diddy (di...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
Subject: Re: cats : Crating/Caging: What constitutes abuse?
Date: 2002-08-23 09:18:08 PST
Lyn wrote:
> > You know I'm a cat abuser because I let my cat out.
> > Alison
>
> Well, it totally depends upon where you live, as to whether
> or not doing so is in the best interest of your animal.
> Abuser isn't a term I would use, and I am a "cat group"
> regular.
Here it would be abuse. If you like your cat you keep it
home. I run a state authorized and monitored nuisance
animal trapline.
This morning there was a cat in a snare. Ordinarily,
an animal caught in a snare can be released unharmed.
One of the animals I am targeting is coyotes (and the
complaint was that coyotes were killing area cats)
Duh.. If your cats are becoming lunch for wild animals,
to me .. It makes sense to keep your cats in where they
can't become lunch.. whatever.
Regarding this cat in the snare. It went nuts. It leaped,
and tangled itself, and most certainly strangulated it's
intestines. It had the snare pulled tight down to the
diameter of a dime (just large enough to encircle the
spine) around the waist area.
This cats snarled, and attacked. Trying to extricate this cat
was exceedingly difficult, not to mention dangerous. Because
I feared damage to the intestines and death of the gut, I
imagined this cat was not likely to survive.
It would have been much simpler to dispatch the unfortunate
cat and take out the dead body. Instead, this cat wore a
collar. it deserved a chance, and the owner deserved closure.
(no id on the collar).
It escaped, just as I released it and it couldn't be taken to
the vet for examination. I will probably never know if this
particular cat survives the experience or not.
People in the area were aware that trapping was being done and
apparently still let their cats run free, b oth endangered by
the traps and by the coyotes being targeted that are causing a
problem with their cat population.
Had that cat not been wearing a collar, I would not have tried
to release this hostile cat. Releasing it may not have been a
kindness, but then... cats weren't supposed to be attracted to
this type of trap, in this position, and then they weren't
supposed to go ape, to get themselves in this situation.
If you like your pet, you keep them home.
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SEE?
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