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Re: Latest on American Eskimo ( Bear ) [ninnyboy]

by "Human_And_Animal_Behaviour_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborator Sep 18, 2008 at 09:58 PM

HOWEDY william clodius, you pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal abusin punk thug coward active acute
chronic life long incurable malignant maliciHOWES
MENTAL CASE,

"William Clodius" <wclodius@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:1infh95.1td8y3y1k5vfpzN%wclodius@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> FWIW most of us consider Jerry Howe to be our resident loon.

FWIW ALL of you are pathetic miserable stinkin rotten
lyin animal murderin MENTAL CASES, just accordin to
your own POSTED CASE HISTORIES <{}: ~ ( >

                REMEMBER, billyboy?

> Most of us have him kill filed.

On accHOWENTA NONE of you pathetic miserable stinkin
rotten lyin animal murderin MENTAL CASES can DEFEND
yourserselves in a DISCUSSION abHOWET dog abusin an
MENTAL ILLNESS, billyboy <{}: ~ ( >

You been a UNDIAGNOSED MENTAL CASE all your life:

"FWIW I believe I have Asperger's, but that diagnosis only
became common in the 90s, several decades after the time
in life when that diagnosis might have been very useful to me."

                BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

> Do as you will.

                   BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!

  Disciple Paulie Sez: "No One Understands How Wits End
  Training Really Works, They Assume It's All Nicey Nicey
  And don't Realise It's A Very Disciplined Method That
  Deals With Any Situation And The Foundation Is Built
  On Trust And Understanding."

Disciple Paulie Writes:

I've never forced my dogs to do anything, I tell them
they are good dogs and they seem to follow me, once
I told them they were bad dogs and they ran away from
me, now I only ever tell them they are good dogs and
they always are, always.

Trust your dog, ask it to do your request and
say "good dog" sincerely at the end of the
request and I bet you'll find your dog thinking
then responding everytime.

A bit of respect works wonders, the same rule
applies to every aspect of the relation****p with
your dog.

Obedience and affection are not related, if they
were everyone would have obedient dogs.

Paul.

                     ---------------------

      From: TooCool (larrym...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
)
   The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method

I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.

The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.

It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.

Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.

One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.

When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.

You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).

Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.

What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.

At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leader****p exercises.

Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.

Is Jerry a nut?

It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.

More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.

I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?

Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.

Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.

Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.

Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.

If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).

--Larry

                       -------------------

        Subject: Here's A Word From C...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Date: 2002-01-29 11:53:56 PST

          "Jerry Is On A One Man Jihad To Expose
             And Discredit Dog Abusing Trainers"

        Hello People,

  Here's a word from CEO @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :

        Hello Fans,

        As the leading dog behavior and training
        guru/personality of our times, and as the
        ceo of the most im****tant dogcasting
        network on the planet, I think it's only fair
        that I jump in here and break it down a little
        like this.

        I specialize not only in dogs, but in making
        complicated issues easy to understand.

        Which brings us to Jerry Howe.

        Jerry Howe knows moore about dogs and dog
        trainers and dog training methods than anyone
        who participates here. As for me, I have more
        skill than anyone here. As a result, I can train
        dogs brilliantly, and dramatically, even offleash
        on busy four lane highways in the concrete
        wastelands of America...

        http://dogtv.com/4LANE3.rm

        without having to worry about following any of Jerry's
        rigid guidelines for training dogs, or breaking any of the
        rules in his "gestalt" approach. And, for that matter,
        without having to rely on non-Jerry methods such as
        shock collars or having to use force which makes my
        dogs "will to resist fade in im****tance."

        You see, fans, I got my own methods, and you'll be
        finding out about those presently

        HOWE-ever, this is about Jerry, so let's talk Jerry.

        Most newbies here, or other people who are struggling,
        clueless and frustrated and doing things to train
        their dog that they know they should not do, or would
        rather not do, which either aren't working, or are even
        making things worse, etc...and so forth, can, via
        following the techniques in Jerry's FREE manual, get
        excellent results in a short period of time.

        He'll tell you HOWE, and I'll tell you WHY.

        Most of you have heard of Pavlov's bell, where dogs
        became conditioned to salivate at the sound of a bell
        after they  were repeatedly fed immediately after the
        sound of the bell.

        That's called conditioning.

        And, while Jerry forcefully argues against the use of
        what he calls "food bribes" (which is HOWE, many
        other kinds of animals are trained, for instance,
        dolphins) dogs can be trained/conditioned with or
        without the use of food.

        Jerry chooses to go the non food route exclusively,
        and claims to get effective results, quickly, in virtually
        any kind of dog or situation.  Nothing in my  brilliant
        guru-ness leads me to believe that he is not being
        truthful with most of his claims about his training
        methods.

        And scientific conditioning, which applies and is
        effective on all dogs, and most other mammals
        and higher life forms, is the basis of Jerry's training.
        This is why, when Jerry says "a dog is a dog is a dog"
        he is correct, in a sense.

        Yes, there are breed differences, but yes, all dogs,
        regardless of breed, can be conditioned using
        scientific methods.

        As for Jerry's behavior here, I'm not a human trainer,
        and I don't try to train humans. But I do deal with people
        in the same brilliant way that I deal with dogs. I don't
        keep doing something which isn't working in order to
        try to get people to behave, any more than I try to do the
        same w/ dogs.

        The moore you try to force Jerry, or put Jerry in a
        Time Out or re****t him to his ISP, the worse his
        behavior gets.

        Jerry is on a one man Jihad to expose and discredit
        trainers who use this same idea of escalating punitivism,
        on dogs, which Jerry believes is responsible for causing
        the best dogs to get killed because of the fact that they

        will not submit to this linear approach of escalating
        force and punishment.

        His classic example of this phenomenon is a german
        shepherd named "Fritz" (do a google search).

        Many of Jerry's critics have a vested interest in
        Jerry being crazy. Because if he isn't, it makes them
        crazy for preaching that Jerry is crazy, so hard and
        for so long.

        But regardless, to anyone interested in training
        their dog effectively without force or punishment,
        Jerry's mental state is irrelevant and his advice is
        generally excellent, if sometimes overbearing.

        And finally, Jerry's approach is especially valuable
        for interrupting, stopping or extingui****ng unwanted
        behaviors. I'm not so sure howe good it is when it
        comes to getting creative results out of dogs, or for
        teaching dogs tricks or complicated sequences (at
        least as far as I can tell).

        My only caveat with Jerry's method is that the idea of
        extingui****ng behaviors is kind of like extingui****ng
        biodiversity or any other resource.  Each behavior is
        a resource to me, not necessarily a problem to be
        extinguished. You have to be careful what you
        extinguish.

        But, like jerry says, dogs don't do right or wrong,
        they do "dog." And his method does not punish
        them for doing wrong. It only tries to extinguish
        certain aspects of "dog" which can be problematical
        for people.

        That's all for now, gotta go back to my new job at an
        IT expert. It's a long and grueling one mile walk from
        home.
        -- 
        this is michael
        re****ting live...
        from the even faster loading
        http://dogtv.com

                  -------------------

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: "TooCool" <larrym...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:56:16 GMT

Subject: Thinking Dogs

Using a proper training method, a method consonant with a dog's
 nature, it is possible to enhance a dog's ability to think. If their
thinking faculty is not exercised and developed then dogs have a
tendency to bounce around, like a billiard ball, from one stimulus
 to another.

But when a dog's thinking faculty is exercised and developed then
they enjoy using that faculty more and more. They begin to feel pride
 in their accomplishments-you can observe their delight in the way
 that they love to show off what they have learned.

As their thinking faculty develops you will begin to see them
improvise more and more, i.e., applying what they have learned
 to new situations. Operant conditioning (clicker training) does
not exercise a dog's ability to think-it conditions a reflex like
reaction at the nervous system level.

 If you desire to train a thinking dog, please read the Puppy Wizard's
 Wits' End Training Method-it caters to the nature of our thinking dogs.

--Larry

                  -------------------

From: Paul Bousie
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: Geday.

Hey J,

I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same
old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the
only advice worth reading.

The problem with your method J is that I can't
answer the questions on the NG no more, people
are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand
that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm
now really understanding that they are all result
orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to
stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they
want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not
realising they create a new one as they deal with
the last.

I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they
don't even realise the errors of thier ways and
they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,
after all if everyone says thats the way then it
must be. I've finally realised people don't want
to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,
they want a little puppet that sits and stays and
downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so
they think, then when the dog acts like a dog
they come squealing to the NG asking how to
stop the dog being a dog.

I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind
that I think demonstrates the way we approach
dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a
cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or
behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents
something about the dog, all of them create what
a dog is.

The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out
the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you
can, problem is each one you stamp out another
takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed
they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,
but thats the traditional way.

Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds
all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,
that's what we get hold of with all the little circles
inside, we don't see the little circles we see the BIG
circle the macro as you put it and use that to train.

I laugh now when I see posts critisising you, they
are critising something they don't even understand
or even have the capacity to understand.

See ya,

Paul

                   -------------------

From: "Marshall Dermer" <der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
To: "The Puppy Wizard"
<ThePuppyWiz...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004

Subject: God Bless The Puppy Wizard

Dear Mr. Puppy Wizard,

I have, of late, come to recognize your genius
and now must applaud your attempts to save
animals from painful training procedures.

You are indeed a hero, a man of exceptional talent,
who tirelessly devotes his days to crafting posts to
alert the world to animal abuse.

We are lucky to have you, and more people should
come to their senses and sup****t your valuable
work.

Have you thought of establi****ng a nonprofit
charity to fund your im****tant work?

Have you thought about holding a press conference
so others can learn of your highly worthwhile
and significant work?

In closing, my only suggestion is that you
try to keep your messages short for most
readers may refuse to read a long message
even if it is from the wise, heroic Puppy Wizard.

I wish you well in your endeavors.

--Marshall Dermer
Marshall Dermer/Associate Professor/
Behavior Analysis Specialty/Department
of Psychology/University of Wisconsin-
Milwaukee/Milwaukee,WI 53201der...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer

           -----------------------------­------

  "The day may come when the rest of the animal creation
                  may acquire those rights
         which never could have been withholden from them
                    but by the hand of tyranny.
             The question is not can they REASON,
                       nor can they TALK,
                     but can they SUFFER?"  -
                      - Jeremy Bentham

           "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised
                 for the good of its victims,
                 may be the most oppressive.
           Those who torment us for our own good
                 will torment us without end,
             for they do so with the approval of
                   their own conscience." -
                       - C.S. Lewis.

         "Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny",
                  Aeschylus (525BC-456BC),
                        Agamemnon.

        "If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you
                   and you will know each other.
         If you do not talk to them, you will not know them,
                and what you do not know you will fear.

                   What one fears, one destroys."
                      Chief Dan George

             All truth p***** through three stages.
                     First, it is ridiculed.
               Second, it is violently opposed.
            Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
                    -Arthur Schopenhauer

             "Thank you for fighting the fine fight-- 
                  even tho it's a hopeless task,
                     in this system of things.
                  As long as man is ruling man,
                 there will be animals (and humans!)
                    abused and neglected. :-(
                    Your student," Juanita.

                "If you've got them by the balls
                    their hearts and minds
                        will follow,"
                         John Wayne.

                    ANY QUESTIONS, People?

                  "Ye shall know the truth,
              and the truth shall make you mad." -
                       ~Aldous Huxley.

      "Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens!"
      "Against stupidity the Gods themselves  contend in vain!"
                      -Friedrich Schiller.

                          INDEEDY.

       AND THAT'S HOWE COME THEY GOT ME NHOWE!

                        In Love And Light,
             I Remain Respectfully, Humbly Yours,
                The WORLD'S CRUELEST Trainer,
                           Jerry Howe,
         The Sincerely Incredibly Freakin Insanely Simply
                         A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
                      *M-A-J-E-S-T-I-C*
                         *G-R-A-N-D*
                       *M-A-S-T-E-R*
        Puppy, Child, *****, Birdy, Ferret, Goat, Monkey
              SpHOWES And Horsey Wizard <{) ;~ ) >

                HOWE MAY I SERVE YOU <{}; ~ ) >

Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
Human And Animal Behavior
Forensic Sciences Research Laboratory,
BIOSOUND Scientific,
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092 (Call ANY TIME)
http://www.freewebs.com/thesimplyamazingpuppywizard

E-mail:

Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laboratory
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Re: Latest on American Eskimo ( Bear )
"Human_And_Animal_Be  2008-09-16 09:19:33 
Re: Latest on American Eskimo ( Bear ) [ninnyboy]
"Human_And_Animal_Be  2008-09-18 10:04:50 
Re: Latest on American Eskimo ( Bear ) [ninnyboy]
"Human_And_Animal_Be  2008-09-18 21:58:56 
Re: Latest on American Eskimo ( Bear ) [ninnyboy]
"Human_And_Animal_Be  2008-09-19 10:45:14 
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"Human_And_Animal_Be  2008-09-19 15:48:58 
Re: Latest on American Eskimo ( Bear ) [ninnyboy]
unsurreality_2005@[EMAIL   2008-09-19 13:34:31 
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