HOWEDY jimmy,
I'm replying to spot a.k.a. celeste directly to *you*
so's there's NO CHANCE you'll overlook it <{}: ~ ) >
"Spot" <spot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>
> "Jim Manson" <Jim@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:uj2uc452i7o5dd3kt4vfk7q4ajbgiahuk9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wanted to wait until we had the consultation with the
>> veterinarian/behaviorist before I posted an update.
You'll notice that ALL of your fellHOWE DOG LOVERS here
got very long posted case histories of HURTIN INTIMIDATIN
an MURDERIN innocent defenseless dumb critters an LYIN
abHOWET it <{}: ~ ( >
> It's very hard to get a fearful dog to trust
Yeah. You'd have to STOP jerkin chokin bribin cratin an intimidatin IT.
> but it looks like you are making some headway.
Yeah. jimmy's new RESCUE dog bit him in the neck
when jimmy was PUNI****N IT for chewin up his
sprinkler system and has just started takin ANTI-
PSYCHOTIC medications <{}: ~ ( >
> The thing is to not give up
Ahhh, you RESCUE dog lovers NEVER GIVE UP~!
> and keep working on earning his trust.
Hmmm... PROBLEMO. jimmy chases his dog an punishes IT.
> It may be a long time to get through to him
BET YOUR MISERABLE LIFE ON IT <{}: ~ ( >
> but once you do it it is the best feeling in the world
> when you finally see him coming into his own.
Yeah. This IS all abHOWET "FEELINS", ain't it, dog lovers <{}: ~ ) >
> Celeste
Here's your newfHOWEND pathetic miserable stinkin rotten lyin
animal murderin punk thug coward active accute chronic life long
incurable malignant maliciHOWES MENTAL CASE PAL, spot
jerking choking shocking CRIPPLING and MURDERIN her
neurotic fearful DEATHLY ILL dogs:
Subject: Vestibular syndrome
INTERFACE BETWEEN VESTIBULAR DYSFUNCTION
AND ANXIETY:
MORE THAN JUST PSYCHOGENICITY.
HOWEDY spot aka celeste you pathetic miserable
stinkin lyin animal murderin MENTAL CASE, and
of curse you pathetic miserable stinkin lyin
veterinary OBS****ATIONIST bugF'nNUTS,
Both these lyin dog abusin mental cases GOT THE SAME PROBLEM:
"Spot" <noSPA...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:FrxWh.1560$Zm.
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> I didn't want to alarm you but my Brandy went down
> hill really fast once she went full blown with this.
THAT'S curiHOWES, spot. Accordin to the literature
symptoms GO AWAY a few days after onset <{}'; ~ ) >
> The vet felt that as quickly as she went down
> hill that it was definately a brain tumor.
THAT'S curiHOWES, spot. There seems to be a
lotta THAT goin arHOWEND here abHOWETS <{}: ~ ( >
> For the two month this was full blown it wasn't too bad.
THAT SO, spotty?
> The occasional stumble, the droopy face, then she lost all feeling in
the
> one side of her face and actually was biting through her lip.
Well spotty, what'd you EXXXPECT? NUTHIN'S CHANGED.
> I was careful to keep her eyes moist and to make sure she ate and I
> cleaned her mouth out with a wet paper town when done because she'd get
> food stuck in her gums. In the end I came home from work one day to fine
> her hardly able to walk and really in bad shape. She went from hardly
> walking to curled in a ball for two days then finally to completely
> paralyzed and she had no idea who we were.
Oh? Was you a DIFFERENT spot, *THEN*, celeste?
We'll get back to you later, spotty...
> "buglady" <buglad...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:cwpWh.3781$j63.187@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "Spot" <noSPA...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:t6oWh.764$sb.459@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
One of the side effects is
>> the inability to blink. When this happened with Brandy we had
>> to keep ointment in her eye and I actually would move her eye
>> lid a couple times a day to keep the eye from drying out. .....
>> Yeah, after reading about it, I made sure I kept checking her
>> eyes. She actually closed her eyes and tried to sleep so I knew
>> she could close them. Vet told me that there was a dog in there
>> that was much much worse than mine, couldn't blink, tongue was
>> sort of hanging out and dog couldn't drink or eat. It's my
>> impressioin that the variety called idiopathic is transitory,
>> brain tumors much worse.
>
>> buglady take out the dog before replying
INTERFACE BETWEEN VESTIBULAR DYSFUNCTION AND ANXIETY:
MORE THAN JUST PSYCHOGENICITY.
Otology & Neurotology. 22(3):426-427, May 2001.
Current Opinion in Neurology. 14(1):41-46, February 2001.
Jacob, Rolf G. a; Furman, Joseph M. b
Abstract:
Anxiety and dizziness are co-morbid symptoms in a larger
percentage of patients than would be expected from chance
alone. Such patients have an increased handicap and poorer
prognosis. In this review, we discuss the interface between
vestibular disorders and anxiety disorders.
The two conditions are functionally related via both
somatopsychic and psychosomatic mechanisms, and are
linked via overlapping neural circuits that include
monoaminergic pathways and the parabrachial nucleus
network. An alternative conceptualization to the
common notion of 'psychogenic' dizziness is presented.
Implications for patient management are discussed.
(C) 2001 Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, Inc.
Türkiye Klinikleri ANA SAYFA SON SAYI GEÇMİŞ SAYILAR English
Year: 2005 Volume: 1 No:40
ıs There A Common Neurological Background Of
The Vestibular And Anxiety/panic Disorders?
Dr. Fethi İDİMANa
aNöroloji AD, Dokuz Eylül Üniversitesi Tıp Fakültesi, İZMİR
The most frequent and im****tant symptom of vestibular
disorders is vertigo, and in attacks, anxiety and panic
disorders have been associated with vertigo in about 40-
50% of the patients. It has been suggested that interface
between vestibular dysfunction and anxiety is more than
just psychogenicity.
Recently, neurological basis for balance-anxiety /
panic disorders have been investigated in many studies.
Neuroanatomical basis, pharmacological links, the
relation****ps of neurotransmitters and therapeutical
efforts for the vestibular system and anxiety/panic
disorders have been evaluated in many re****ts.
The present study is a review about neuroanatomical and
neuropharmacological correlates of vestibular system and
anxiety/panic disorders.
Keywords: Vestibular system,vertigo, anxiety/panic
disorders, otonomical manifestations
Turkiye Klinikleri J Int Med Sci 2005, 1(40):57-61
Antidepressants and dizziness
Renato T. Ramos
University of São Paulo Medical School, São Paulo, Brazil
Despite several evidences sup****ting a close relation****p
between dizziness and anxiety symptoms, the role of anti-
depressants in the treatment of such conditions remains
poorly explored. The high prevalence of dizziness during
s*****onin reuptake inhibitors discontinuation syndrome and
the few re****ts suggesting efficacy of antidepressants in
treating some vestibular disorders justify a careful
investigation.
Neurophysiologic studies suggest possible focus of
investigation on mechanisms of drug action. Psychophysiologic
studies also suggest a possible role of antidepressant
drugs in improving balance control and cognitive functioning.
Controlled studies involving antidepressants with selective
action in different neurotransmitters systems are necessary
to elucidate the complex pathophysiologic mechanisms involving
emotional and balance control. For future researches, special
attention must be paid to the methodology of balance evaluation
and the interaction between posture control and cognitive
functioning.
Key Words: dizziness * antidepressants *
balance control * vestibular testing * anxiety
Subject: Head Tilt In Dogs
HOWEDY Doc,
JGW wrote:
> >> 1. how to distinguish a central cause from a peripheral cause
> > Look for deficits that suggest central cause, i.e. seizures, facial
> > nerve deficits, propriaceptive deficits in the limbs.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard relies on POSTED CASE HISTORY DATA
to DIEagnose heelth and behavior problems, Doctor <{) ; ~ ) >
> Thanks. Hard to check proprioception because she couldn't stand. She
had
> worsening of an underlying Horner's and her tongue tended to deviate to
> the side of the head tilt.
The "head tilt" was probably "wobbler's DIS-EASE" as
was the likely CAUSE of the "Homer's Syndrome" aka
STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy
Wizard's Syndrome <{) ' ~ ) >
"Horner's syndrome is associated with damage to the
sympathetic innervation to the eye. The damage may
have numerous causes, and may occur anywhere along
the course of the nerve's route from the brain to
the eye. Thus Horner's syndrome may be associated
with (strictly in anatomical sequence - not probability)
brain tumours, spinal cord injury in the neck, thoracic
tumours such as lymphosarcoma, injuries to the neck from
fighting, choke collar injury or difficult venipuncture,
middle ear infections, and viral, immune mediated or
idiopathic neuropathies."
> >> 2. if it's going to improve, by what time do you
> >> typically start to see signs of beginning improvement?
>
> > Depends on causation.
The CAUSE is STRESS and TRAUMA from traditional handling
and training methods. We can DISCUSS that if you LIKE <{) ; ~ ) >
> > If it's true idopathic vestibular syndrome, usually
> > improvement is noted in a couple of weeks.
There AIN'T NO SUCH THING as "IDIOPATHIC" NUTHIN.
HERE'S HOWE COME your dogs are DYIN from STRESS
INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The Puppy Wizard's
Syndrome <{}: ~ ( >
HOWEDY spot,
From: "Spot" <NoSpa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 Subject:
Re: How Do I Handle Her?
> I have always used a no-pull halter
That's a choking harness, spot. Dogs DON'T LIKE
GETTIN CHOKED no matter HOWE you call it, spot.
> and it works like a charm.
It HURTS and INTIMDIATES your dog and teaches IT
to FEAR you HURTING HIM someMOORE, spot.
> You can find them at Walmart sometimes and most
> any pet store will carry them.
Yeah. But you won't find ANY intelligent kindly dog owners
using them, spot. ONLY DOG ABUSERS HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER
innocent critters and try to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin.
> It's a collar the 2 D rings at the bottom and a Yshaped piece
> at the top. There are 2 other padded strips of cording where
> you slide one under each leg from the top Y connector and
> attach to the individual D rings below. The top piece of these
> slide through the Y at the top and leash attaches to the top.
> Basically when the dog pulls it tightens and puts pressuer
> under the legs.
And they LIKE THAT, do they, spot?
> The dogs don't like the pressure
Ohhh. HOWE COME?
> and it throws them off balance as they pull harder.
And that's to teach the dog to naturally want to be with
you every place you go, is that correct, spot?
> They soon learn not to pull.
That so, spot?
Your dog AIN'T PULLIN on accHOWENT of you're HURTING HIM.
Take off your choking harness and your dog will pull.
Take off your leash and your dog will RUN HOWET ON YOU
on accHOWENT of you're a dog abusing punk thug coward
mental case.
REMEMBER, spotty?
> I had tried everything out there to walk Barney
You mean you TRIED EVERY THING TO HURT YOUR DOG, spot.
> and nothing else would ever work.
Oh. THAT'S on accHOWENT of there AIN'T NO APUPRIATE
WAY TO HURT and INTIMIDATE your dog, spot. THAT'S
HOWE COME DOGS GO NUTS and GET DEAD, spot.
> He would constantly pull me
On accHOWENT of you was CONSTANTLY TRYING TO CHOKE HIM, spot.
> once I found these halters the whole walking experience was a joy.
That so?:
"The dogs don't like the pressure and it
throws them off balance as they pull harder."
> Celeste
And THAT'S HOWE COME your dog GOT a "BRAIN TUMOR".
> At that point we chose to give her peace.
You mean you MURDERED her you freakin dog abusin ignorameHOWES.
> I hope your dog is ok and that it's nothing as bad as Brandy was.
"My one dog Brandy was abused by her former owner
She too often stayed back out of the way either
in another room or at the edge of the current one
just looking and observing. Eventually as she got
up her confidence and trust in me she started
following me around."
You mean, when you wasn't jerkin chokin an shockin her, spot?:
Re: Anti-bark collar?
HOWEDY spot,
Spot wrote:
> Like Marie says
marie is a lying dog abusing MENTAL CASE like
yourself, spot. marie's dog Macula has attacked
innocent passersbye and is no longer welcome to
join her pals in their dog walking club and marie
just wrote in last week abHOWET her dog Macula's
EXXXCESSIVE BARKING followed by ****in in her
HOWES <{); ~ ) >
> they are a great training tool
That so? HOWE COME IT DIDN'T WORK for marie?
> and should be used as such.
You're a dog abusing mental case, spot. You
HURT and INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs and LIE
abHOWET it.
> I purchased the PetSafe Deluxe Big Dog Trainer at www.petco.com
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
> It is not automatic like some collars that go off
> when the dog barks. With this there is a remote that
> you control. The idea is to give a verbal correction
You mean scold threaten and intimidate...
> followed by a tone.
MOORE scolding threatening and intimidating...
> If that does not work after you tone the dog once or twice
You mean, there's NO METHOD?
> you then have the option of giving it an stimulation
You mean a medical grade static like stimulation.
> from levels of 1 to 10 depending upon the dogs reaction.
Dogs GO INSANE from gettin shocked, spot.
> I initially bought it due to her flipping out over a
> neighbor shoveling snow.
You mean you got THE SAME PROBLEM.
> After she was spooked by this she thought that every
> time she went out she had to take barking fits regardless
> of the time of day or night.
She was AFRAID.
So you HURT her.
> Like yourself I don't want my neighbors pissed off at me
You're a VERY nice lady.
> and with our hours it's not unusual to take her out at 3 am.
Yeah...
> I found that in less than 2 days with a small amount
> of stimulation she learned what quiet ment.
That so?
> I also found that her prey drive is high and used
> the collar to break her of bunny chasing.
That so?
> The first time she got away from me before I knew
> what was going on. The next morning I was waiting
> for her and she barely got around the fence and to
> the back corner before I left her have it at level 10.
You could train your dog not to chase bunnys by PRAISING her.
> This may seem cruel to some people
Not to HOWER dog lovers...
> but if it means when I yell stop that she does
If you TRAINED her NOT TO DO THAT you WOULDN'T
NEED to SHOCK her when she doesn't stop when
you yell stop...
> it's worth that little bit she had to endure.
That so?
> Just yesterday she started down my
> drive way barking at the neighbor.
See?
> I yelled Lady stop and back she came.
You got LUCKY.
> She wasn't even wearing the collar.
BWEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAAAA!!!
> I rarely put it on her now.
Right...
> Celeste
"micha el" <spam_yurs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
news:yIydnZpPsIzg6l_d4p2dnA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what
it felt like to me when I got shocked by
Hope's collar.
It felt like a bomb going off in my
hand and forearm.
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"Tricia9999" <tricia9...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> how effective are these electronic fences in
>> keeping a dog on a property????
Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
too scared to go out in the yard anymore.
Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
because the dog got caught right in the path of
the shock and will now not go near his person,
won't go outside.
Just hides under a desk in the house.
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"I'd call the SHOCK fence effective and safe.
Humane is one of those hot words that people
can debate all day so I won't touch that one.
There are people who would call a regular chain
link fence inhumane," liea altshuller.
"I know this is a hard subject to bring up without
starting the whole cruelty thread again so I'll
state my opinion once and won't defend it further:
any method can be cruel for some dogs.
Even the slightest punishment was wrong for Cubbe at the
beginning, but we've come a long way since then.She trusts
us now as I mentioned in a recent post. Point is, she's been
rewarded for coming, but she's never been punished, even in
the mildest way, for not coming.
Is it time for that?
What might I look for to tell?"
"Julia Altshuler" <jaltshu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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After talking with the vet yesterday and watching
Cubbe all day today, I'm convinced that the shaking
is behavioral, not physical. Naturally I'll continue
keeping an eye on her, but when I add everything
up, I don't see symptoms of anything neurological--
and the vet agrees.
--Lia
"Things are beginning to get much worse day
by day and the vets seem unable to help:
http://tinyurl.com/fbqnw
THAT'S AN OCD. His owner CAUSED IT by
MISHANDLING and ABUSING his dog according
to the BEST advice of HOWER Gang Of Lying
Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACTIVE
LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES and
ASYLUM ESCAPEES.
"Tricia9999" <tricia9...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> how effective are these electronic fences in
> keeping a dog on a property????
Some run through it. Others get shocked and become
too scared to go out in the yard anymore.
Just heard of a guy that has to rehome his dog,
because the dog got caught right in the path of
the shock and will now not go near his person,
won't go outside.
Just hides under a desk in the house.
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"micha el" spam_yurs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
in message
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Anyway, contrary to your PR, this is what
it felt like to me when I got shocked by
Hope's collar.
It felt like a bomb going off in my
hand and forearm.
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"J1Boss" <j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> He was next to me and I could see his neck muscles
> pulsing. He didn't even blink an eye. Janet Boss
"sionnach" <rhyfe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "J1Boss" <j1b...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:20040323173916.10096.00001938@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > I can't imagine needing anything higher than a 5
> > > with it, even with an insensitive dog like a Lab.
An INSENSITIVE DOG???
> > I can't remember what model of Innotek I have,
> > but I had apointer ignore a neck-muscle-pulsing 9.
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAA!!!
HOWEDY spot,
Spot wrote:
> She needs seen by a vet obviously something is
> paining her.
HOWE is he gonna RESTRAIN the dog at the vet
to be EXXXAMINED withHOWET GETTIN BIT, spot?
If the dog bites at the vet they'll MURDER IT spot.
> Dogs in general don't act this way when they
TRUST their handler.
> aren't provoked unless they are in pain.
If the dog TRUSTED his handler he wouldn't
GRHOWEL at him and snap regardless of PAIN.
> I'd keep the kids away until you find what's wrong.
So far the ONLY thing we KNOW is THE DOG IS AFRAID.
> It could be some arthritis and after a while the
> stroking doesn't feel good and it's her way of
> telling you to stop.
Walkin away is HOWE the dog TELLS WON to STOP PATTIN IT.
Attackin is FEAR and MISTRUST not PAIN:
From: "Spot" <NoSpa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:35:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Collateral damage/bark collar
Since you are home why not get an ecollar that you
completely control. I bought one of these and used
it to train Lady for the quiet command.
She would go outside and flip out barking at absolutely
nothing and there was no shutting her up. The one I
bought has a tone button and a stimulation button with
10 levels from 1 to 10.
Some people absolutely hate these things and in my situation
it was either get her under control or send her back to the
farm. It was the best 90.00 I have ever spent.
It took less than 3 days to get through to her that
quiet meant to stop barking. I give her the command
QUIET and would tone her and she'd hesitate a second
then back into it. I would then repeat QUIET and tone
her again I repeated this 3 times before I started
using the stimulation. It took a level 4 to get her
to stop and in less than 3 days she was over it.
She now knows what QUIET means and I also used it in
training her to stop chasing rabbits. She still chases
them out of the yard but knows that she doesn't run
around the end of the fencing at the bottom of the
drive way after them.
Celeste
HOWEDY spot
Spot wrote:
> You answered your own question.
That so?:
"Does anyone have any ideas other than to
just never have her around other dogs?"
> Keep her away from other dogs,
That AIN'T the ANSWER, spot.
> she gives no warning signs and is "unpredictable"
The dog IS predictable. She FIGHTS when she's AFRAID.
> better safe than sorry.
That so, spot?
> I had a lab/husky/cocker mix who had an "Attitude"
> that I can take anything regardless of size.
You mean he was VERY AFRAID.
> He got along with only one other dog in his life time
Well then spot, perhaps you shouldn't be givin ADVICE
abHOWET HOWE to pupperly handle and train a dog, spot?
> and even that took 6 months to accomplish.
BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAAA!!!
> I came to the realization early on that he was always
> going to be "Mr Antisocial" and always going to go for
> a fight.
On accHOWENT of you don't know HOWE to train a dog
nodoGgamenedMOORE than the other lying dog abusing
punk thug cowards and active acute long term incurable
MENTAL CASES who choke shock crate bribe and intimidate
their own dogs like HOWE you do, spot.
> As much as I hated it to do it
You just couldn't heelp yourself, eh spot?
> often he had to stay at home because I knew
> taking him out in public would be a bad idea
> when I knew other dogs would be there.
BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!
> Celeste
CuriHOWES AIN'T IT, that EVERY WON of your dog
lover pals GOT THE SAME SAME SAME SAME PROBLEM
for the SAME SAME SAME SAME REASON, spot.
Wed,Feb 9 2005 9:49 pm
Subject: Re: House breaking the boyfriend,
there's going to be a fight!
HOWEDY spot,
Your idiotic questions and vindictiveness towards your
boy toy doesn't even deserve dignifyin it with a answer.
Your DEAD DOG Barny DIED from STRESS INDUCED
AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE on accHOWENT of YOU
ABUSED HIM ALL HIS LIFE as DEMONSTRATED in
your own posted case history:
From: "Spot" <NoSpa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 00:32:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Help from any vet or anyone who's been through this.
Philip,
I don't have a problem with giving him Deramaxx. He's
been on it for two years the only reason we took him off
it was due to the cancer.
NOTHING is going to cure the cancer this is the 3rd round
the mast cell cancer he has had and this is completely
inoperable and I will not put him through chemo or radiation.
I am more interested in his quality of life for the remainder
of his life. He has for years taken glucosamine & condroiten
supplements with the approval of his orthpedic vet.
Barney has had ACL surgery on both is knees and has extensive
arthritis no supplement will ever give him total complete pain
relief and I sure am not willing to use something for a month
waiting for it to work.
---------------------------
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAA!!!
YOUR DOG'S DEAD on accHOWENT of you abused him.
Tell it to ed w of PETLOSS.CON or "lighteningstrike",
dog abusin coward lying mental cases they are... you'll
be in EXXXCELLENT company.
Your dog had two acl surgeries on accHOWET
of YOU ABUSED HIM:
"I've been through this with Barney he has had both his
repaired and it was well worth the expense. Yes he has
arthritis but it's not near as bad as it would have been
if I hadn't had it done right away.
Celeste
HERE'S HOWE COME:
Date: 23 Jan 2005 08:21:07 -0800
Subject: Re: How Do I Handle Her?
HOWEDY spot,
From: "Spot" <NoSpa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005
Subject: Re: How Do I Handle Her?
> I have always used a no-pull halter
That's a choking harness, spot. Dogs DON'T LIKE
GETTIN CHOKED no matter HOWE you call it, spot.
> and it works like a charm.
It HURTS and INTIMDIATES your dog and teaches IT
to FEAR you HURTING HIM someMOORE, spot.
> You can find them at Walmart sometimes and
> most any pet store will carry them.
Yeah. But you won't find ANY intelligent kindly
dog owners using them, spot. ONLY DOG ABUSERS
HURT INTIMDIATE and MURDER innocent critters
and try to get HOWET callin THAT, trainin.
> It's a collar the 2 D rings at the bottom and a
> Yshaped piece at the top. There are 2 other
> padded strips of cording where you slide one
> under each leg from the top Y connector and
> attach to the individual D rings below. The top
> piece of these slide through the Y at the top
> and leash attaches to the top.
>
> Basically when the dog pulls it tightens and puts
> pressuer under the legs.
And they LIKE THAT, do they, spot?
> The dogs don't like the pressure
Ohhh. HOWE COME?
> and it throws them off balance as they pull harder.
And that's to teach the dog to naturally want to be
with you every place you go, is that correct, spot?
> They soon learn not to pull.
That so, spot?
Your dog AIN'T PULLIN on accHOWENT of
you're HURTING HIM. Take off your choking
harness and your dog will pull. Take off your
leash and your dog will RUN HOWET ON YOU
on accHOWENT of you're a dog abusing punk
thug coward mental case.
REMEMBER, spotty?
> I had tried everything out there to walk Barney
You mean you TRIED EVERY THING TO HURT YOUR DOG, spot.
> and nothing else would ever work.
Oh. THAT'S on accHOWENT of there AIN'T NO
APUPRIATE WAY TO HURT and INTIMIDATE
your dog, spot. THAT'S HOWE COME DOGS
GO NUTS and GET DEAD, spot.
> He would constantly pull me
On accHOWENT of you was CONSTANTLY
TRYING TO CHOKE HIM, spot.
> once I found these halters the whole walking
> experience was a joy.
That so?:
"The dogs don't like the pressure and it throws
them off balance as they pull harder."
> Celeste
HOWEDY spot,
Spot wrote:
> Jason,
>
> I love dogs
Is that why you jerk and choke them on your pronged
spiked pinch choke collar and shock and lock them in
boxes and spray aversives in their faces and ignore
their cries, spot aka cleleste?
> and have always had one
You've ALWAYS BEEN an abuser, spot.
> but I'm realistic
Your own POSTED CASE HISTORY will PROVE THAT
you've ALWAYS BEEN AN ABUSER, spot.
> and the first thing I do when I take them in for
> their first checkup is schedule to have them fixed.
Oh? Was they BROKEN, spotty? I mean, pryor to you
surgically mutilating and shocking and chokin them,
spotty?
> I had a beautiful lab/husky mix and had tons of
> people ask will you breed him they always seemed
> disappointed when I told them he was fixed.
No, he was FIXED when you GOT him. THEN you BROKE him.
> I always tried to explain there are just too many
> unwanted puppies in the world to add any more.
That so? Perhaps you should be TELLIN THAT to
your EITHICKAL BREEDER pals and call on THEM
to declare a 5 year breeding moritorim so you
won't have to WORRY about all them unwanted pups?
> Even though Barney was gorgeous he had many
> problems due to back yard breeding.
That's EZ for you to say spot, you and your ilk
will DO and SAY ANYTHING to DEFEND your alleged
RIGHT to hurt intimidate mutilate and murder dogs.
We got EXXXPERTS RIGHT HERE who's MUILTIPLE dogs
have died from cancers and other STRESS INDUCED
AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASES. We even got cate's Orson
who'S GONE BLIND from his three years of problem
behavior modification training and don't forget
to look up professor SCRUFF SHAKE dermer's little
dog Maxie The Magnificient FuriHOWESLY Obsessive
Compulsive Coprographic Masturbator's CASE HISTORY
of CHRONIC urinary tract / bladder stone / irritible
bowel SYNDROME <{);* ~ { >
> Both of Barneys knees had luxating patella's
You mean The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME, spot. THAT'S
CAUSED BY STRESS from jerking choking crating bribing
shocking and spraying aversives in their faces and
ignoring their cries.
> which lead to extensive costly surgery starting at
> the age of 6 and due to the problems he had severe
> arthritis later in life.
Imagine?
> All of which could have been prevented
Had you NOT HURT and INTIMDATED him.
> if people would be responsible.
Yeah, like you was.
> Add on top of that the mast cell cancer
Well La, Di, Da?
No, celesete, THAT WAS PREDICTABLE. LOOK AT
THE CASE HISTORY DATA, celeste. YOU HURT YOUR
DOG AND CAUSED HIS DIS-EASES and CRIPPLING
just like robin nuttal and katrina aka white
monked CRIPPLED THEIR DOGS by jerking and
choking and shocking them.
> that we fought for the last 6 years of his life.
You mean the MuncHOWESEN SYNDROME By Proxy.
> At no time was he in pain I made sure of that
You mean other than the traditional jerking
choking shocking crating bribing intimidating
spraying with aversives and ignoring his cries.
> and I spared no expense when it came to Barney
You're generHOWES and SENSITIVE, as are all dog lovers,
that's the THREAD that BINDS you with the other DOG LOVERS
in these forums who SCREAM to KILLFILE The Amazing Puppy
Wizard EXXXCEPT for the VETERINARIANS who can't feature
LOSING 90% of their iatrogenic heelth care treatments
like your ACL surgeries on BOTH knees. Only a FOOL or
WON with MONEY TO LOSE would believe the bilateral nature
of this DIS-EASE is caused by the dog's GAIT being thrown
off with the gimpy first leg goin out on him. It'd MAKE
SENSE to a FIVE YEAR OLD CHILD but NOT to The Amazing
Puppy Wizard <{); ~ ) >
And NOT TO YOU EITHER, spot. YOU GOT TO BLAME SUMPTHIN
and you're PREYING we'll BUY THAT EXXXCUSE and the old
standye the PUPPY MILL FAERIE TAIL.
That's not sayin I'm IN FAVOR of so called puppy
mills or commercial breeders or factory farmers.
There's was the animal industries CAN be apupriately
handled even in a free enterprise PC situation like USA.
> but many people don't look at dogs and
> cats as a life time commitment.
Most folks WOULDN'T if they thought owning a puppy
was NORMALLY going to involve MONTHS and YEARS of
PROBLEM BEHAVIOR and CONSTANT REINFORCEMENT TRAINING
and CHRONIC ear skin dental urinary tract bladder
endocrine and bowel DIS-EASES. You musta spent 7-10
THOWESAND buck just treatin his DIS-EASES CAUSED BY
STRESS from MISHANDLING as you've BEEN TAUGHT by your
PET PROFESSINALS who have deprived your dog of his
RIGHT to life by advising you to jerk choke crate
bribe force intimidate mutilate and MURDER your own
dogs.
> Once the fun wares off
You mean from NOT BEING TRAINED like your dogs?
> or they become and expense
Most folks DUMP dogs in shelters because the
METHODS for handling and training their dogs
which their PET PROFESSIONALS gave them FAILS.
> they dump them off at shelters.
NO. They PAY to GET RID of their dogs so they
can be ADOPTED by another FOREVER home for a
WEE BIT OF MONEY and often are RETURNED from
their FOREVER HOMES repeatedly till the SHELTER
MURDERS them or figgers they GOT A GOOD SHELTER
DOG who makes them A WEE BIT OF MONEY HAND OVER
FIST till the cows come home.
BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!
What a RACKET.
> Are you really ready to take on that kind of responsibility.
WATCH ME.
> If you can't afford to buy a dog you can't
> afford to get another one.
You mean because he won't be able to AFFORD double
knee joint replacements like you dog needed and the
prolonged cancer treatmets till you had to PAY YOUR
VET to finish the dog off in a kindly sensitive manner
as all dog lovers PREFER to havin their pets live a
heelthy ripe old age in EXXXCELLENT heelth and ****in
the bed in the middle of the night like it should be?
> It's not just food & shelter it's medical care to.
Right. It's months and years of constant
training management and vigilance.
> Hopefully emergencies never arise for you but all
> too often they do. I have had to fork out my cash
> at up to 1500.00 a clip for multiple surgeries not
> just for Barney but for my other pets. In all total
> over Barneys 12 years I probably spent well over 6000.00
> and I have a cat who I've probably spent close to 1500.00
> for in the last 6 years.
kelly aka culprit aka metta's DEAD KAT was seven
THOWESAND buck of unnecessary surgries and chronic
DIS-EASES till her dogs MURDERED HER two weeks after
she began SHOCKING them and using her to set the dogs
up to cross the shock barrier... till she FORGOT to
put their SHOCK COLLARS on and they bolted through
and ATE HER DEATHLY ILL KAT right there in front of
her JUST LIKE HOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard PREDICTED
based on CASE HISTORY DATA like that of lia altshuller's
fear aggressive dog aggressive vet aggressive child
aggressive dog Cubbe began TURNING ON HER since she
first started jerking and choking IT till she went
to a PRONGED SPIKED PINCH CHOKE collar and shocking
her till she ATTACKED her ONLY FRIEND as she stood
in Cubbe's SHOCK ZONE the same same as she did when
she TURNED ON THE CHILD she'd just been PLAYIN WITH
till she stepped into Cubbe's SHOCK ZONE just like
HOWE she done to the little boy she used to play
with.
> Do you have that kind of cash or available credit
> at hand if you should need it in an emergency?
Who are you, Dunn & Bradstreet? Maybe the IRS?
> You have to think in the long term picture and overall cost.
Naah. Let's think in the SHORT TERM picture
and DON'T HURT and INTIMDIATE your dogs and
THEY WON'T DIE from STRESS INDUCED DIS-EASES
aka The Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME.
> Some where I read the average cost of a dog
> in a years time is close to $400.00 and that's
> just food & routine vet care!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's ABSURD.
> Celeste
And THAT'S HOWE COME you CANNOT TRAIN your dog.
And THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ
"when you post here abHOWETS The Amazing Puppy
Wizard will QUOTE YOU and leave you F'd OFF for
the last of your dignity and self respect IF you
EVER THOUGHT you EVER had any to begin with."
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