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Re: Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians

by "Charley Sante" <KlysterEngineering@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 26, 2008 at 04:16 AM

Hello sharon too,

Seems you *ARE* a BAD PUPPY:

"Sharon Too" <askformyaddy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> *"Avoiding Dangerous Veterinarians" * by Jan Rasmussen, award-
>> winning author 'About Maltese Dogs' (http://www.dogs4dogs.com:80/vet)
.
>
> Good job.

INDEEDY. Not bad but not hardly as detailed and severe as it should be.

> Spread panic.

She's not 'spreading panic'; she's INFORMING pet lovers of
the dangers of following the insipid insidious greedy ignorant
vicious advice of veterinary malpracticioners like yourself.

> God knows,

Let's not bring Him into it, sharon too.

We've got all the EVIDENCE we need right here.

> there aren't any non-compliant pet owners

You mean, LIKE THIS?:

Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!! What to do with baby Possum?

HOWEDY Jack,

Jack Crenshaw wrote:
> Fred Mann wrote:
> > Hello,
> > > My cat brought in a baby possum tonight. It is pretty small - -
about
> > > twice the size of a chipmunk -- but its eyes are open, so it's not a
> > > newborn. It really looks just like a miniature adult. It seems to be
> > > in pretty good shape, considering I snapped it from the jaws of
death.

The Kitty Kat might of thought she'd CARE for the baby 'possum.

> > > It can climb and scamper around pretty well - no obvious wounds.

See?

> > > My question is, should I just release it into the woods behind my
> > > house tonight? I don't know if it will be okay, or if it still needs
> > > its parents.

"Sharon" <askformya...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> Don't touch wildlife at all.

Fred didn't have no choice. Besides, his kat was
already EXXXPOSED to whatever sharon aka sharon
too, veterinary malpractice office manager and mrs.
veterinary malpracticioner FEARS <{): ~ ( >

>> They carry parasites and other organisms.

But they don't INTENTIONALLY and WONTONLY MUTILATE
and MURDER innocent defenseless dumb critters like sharon and
 her veterinary malpracicioner pals do FOR PROFIT.

>>  You should release it back into the woods,

LIKE THAT, for EXXXAMPLE. According to Fred's description
of the baby it's too young to SURVIVE and if his mom was
alive chances are she'd not have LOST him to begin with.

>>  but if your scent is on it,

Like from taking it HOWETA his kitty kat's MHOWETH?

>> the mother (if she finds it) may reject it.

Then RELEASING IT would be more than sheer idiocy.

IT'D BE MURDER. WOULDN'T IT.

>> Your only other alternative is to look up a local wildlife
rehabilitator.

Or Fred could call a local veterinary office and get all the
INFORMATION and ADVICE he needs. Like HOWE to
take precautions against rabies and other DIS-EASE and
VERMIN the baby might be carryin.

FOR EXXXAMPLE, if mom Opossum DIED from RABIES her
baby would likely have RABIES. RELEASING IT would leave
Fred and his Kat EXXXPOSED with NO KNOWLEDGE of their
EXXXPOSURE, thereby sentencing BOTH Fred, his kat, and any
 other individuals they have contact with, to a DEATH SENTENCE,
 isn't that correct, Jack?

> Fred, I hope I've caught you in time.

LikeWIZE. HOWEver, it appears you are some
sort of animal rights activist, eh Jack? sharon
aka sharon too, verterinary malpractice office
manager, mrs. veterinary malpracticioner would
WARN folks not to believe you, Jack, as she's
done to The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) : ~ ) >

> Under _NO_ cir***stances should you release the baby back to the wild.
> There is no way he could survive alone.

Of curse not. Furthermore, having been EXXXPOSED by
his kat bringing it in, he's got to make sure the baby AIN'T
CARRYING RABIES pryor to releasing it.

> First order of business:  Keep him warm and safe.

sharon aka sharon too is a veterinary malpractice office
manager and mrs. veterinary malpracticioner. She SEZ
to release the critter. sharon oughtta know, wouldn't you
agree, Jack?

> You might try giving him a little water, and perhaps bits of banana.  If
> he doesn't eat them, hold off until step two.

Well, dehydration IS a great concern for orphaned babies.

You'd think sharon aka sharon too, veterinary office manager,
mrs veterinary malpracticioner would ADVISE Fred of this
 vital information, wouldn't you, Jack?

PERHAPS you are overly symptathetic towards innocent
defenseless living dumb critters, eh Jack? HOWE COME
do you suppHOWES sharon aka sharon too, veterinary
malpractice office manager, mrs. veterinary malpracticoiner
DON'T CARE abHOWET innocent defenseless critters?

MIGHT THAT BE on accHOWENT of there AIN'T NO PROFIT in it?

> Step 2: Go to the National Opossum Society (NOS) web page:

> http://www.opossum.org/

> You will find all you ever need to know about Opossum care there.

INDEEDY. It SEZ the baby CAN'T SURVIVE till it's TWICE it's size.

> Step 3:  If possible, get the animal to a licensed rehabber ASAP.

Didn't you find a similar veterinary malpracticioner
who was licensed to "care" for wildlife, Jack?

> Look on the NOS site and see if you can find a rehabber that they
> recommend. As you might expect, some rehabbers know more
> about these critters than others.

Oh? You mean like HOWE SOME veterinary malpracticioners
MIGHT know NUTHIN abHOWET apupriate humane care of
innocent defenseless dumb critters they're PAID to HEEL, eh Jack?

> They're not like squirrels or rabbits, which show up pretty much
> everywhere.

You mean, other critters who'd be MURDERED by the
 likes of HOWER veterinary malpracticioners, Jack?

> I have raised quite a number of opossum young.  They make
> decent pets (though they will never fetch your slippers),

Well Jack, PERHAPS you could train them to if you knew HOWE?

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> and they are not protected by laws, so it's not illegal. However,
> I do  _NOT_ recommend this approach unless all else fails.

Well Jack, sharon's ADVICE NEVER FAILS. UNLESS maybe
his Kitty Kat brought it back, then he'd have to RELEASE IT
again and hopefully, it'd DIE or get ATE by some other furry
woodslands critters <{): ~ (  >

OtherWIZE sharon's veterinary malpracticioner husband
could take IT in an MURDER IT for him, just to be SHORE
IT DON'T SUFFER a needlessly painful death <{}: ~ ) >

> Opossums -- be they baby or adult -- do not fare well in captivity, and
> suffer badly from an unbalanced diet. Though extremely hardy
> and adaptable in the wild, they stay that way by eating a wide variety
of
> foods.  A steady diet of any kind of food can be crippling or fatal.

That's interesting.

> A young opossum stays on his mother's milk for several months,

Oh? Evidently sharon don't CARE abHOWET that?

> and her milk is extremely rich. You might try making some up for the kid
> as a tem****ary measure.  Use a milk replacer like Esbilac, supplemented
> with raw egg and mol*****. You do not - - and definitely should not --
use
> a bottle.  Baby opossums have no suckling instinct, so you will drown
him.

>   But they can lap from a shallow dish, like a jar cap.

Perahps the next time sharon will recommend
puttin IT HOWET with a bowl of milk?

> Again, I emphasize that you should consider this _ONLY_
> as a stopgap, emergency procedure

You mean TO SAVE ITS LIFE?

> until you can get the baby to a rehabber.

As opposed to MURDERIN IT as sharon aka sharon too,
veterinary malpractice office manager, mrs. veterinary
malpracticioner has RECOMMENDED?

> The babies do not thrive except in the hands of a real pro.

Like sharon aka sharon too, veterinary malpractice office
manager, mrs. veterinary malpracticioner, animal abusing
mental case, liar, fraud, coward, veterinary racketeer and
active acute chronic long term incurable mental case?

> Jack

What do you think we can do to IDENTIFY EXXXPOSE
and DISCREDIT the self serving animal murdering
mutilating veterinary malpracticioner profitteers we got
in this industry, Jack?

They'll DO and SAY ANYTHING to SELL their UNNECESSARY
INAPUPRIATE DEATHLY prescription "medications" and
useless, dangerHOWES surgical mutilations <{): ~ ( >

> or those that hear only what they want to hear.
> 'Cause, ya know, " ...the internet says, therefore..."

You mean, like written in your own words from your own
posted case history, sharon too, mrs. veterinary malpracticioner,
animal murderin liar, fraud an scam artist, sharon too??

                               LIKE THIS?:

From: Jack Crenshaw <jcr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 23:01:36 GMT

Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!! What to do with baby Possum?

Sharon wrote:
> Don't touch wildlife at all. They carry parasites and other organisms.
You
> should release it back into the woods, but if your scent is on it,
> the mother (if she finds it) may reject it. Your only other alternative
is
> to look up a local wildlife rehabilitator.

What you just said is such a fountain of misinformation I hardly
 know where to begin.  First, the scent thing:  It's an old wives'
tale, and totally false.

Second, releasing a juvenile back to the wild is as good as
 a death sentence.  The animal will not, repeat _WILL_ _NOT_
survive.

If you just want to kill the juvie, it would be
 more humane to flush it down the toilet.

Finally, the bit about parasites and organisms.  While it's true that
wild animals carry both, so do you.  Unless one plans to eat the
dropping or some such, it is not an issue. Most likely, the worst
parasite problem you're likely to get is a flea bite.

As animals go, the opossum is a lot more safe than most.  They
 are virtually immune to rabies and many other common ailments.

 Even their bite is much less likely to be septic than a dog or a human.

Jack

From: Jack Crenshaw <jcr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:16:41 GMT

Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!! What to do with baby Possum?

Sharon wrote:

> We'll have to disagree on most levels. As for surviving alone in the
wild,
> it's no more likely to sirvive *in most cases*
> domestically.
>
> Most people don't know the first thing about raising wildlife,
> thus my recommendation to contact a wildlife rehabilitator.

Your advice to contact a wildlife rehabber was a good one. Your
advice to release a juvenile back to the wild sucked rocks. Your
 assertion that the mother would smell the human scent on the baby
 and reject it was ridiculously wrong.

>> Finally, the bit about parasites and organisms.  While it's true that
>> wild animals carry both, so do you.  Unless one plans to eat the
dropping
>> or some such, it is not an issue. Most likely,
>> the worst parasite problem you're likely to get is a flea bite.
>
> There are plenty of parasites that are zoonotic diseases that cross
> species into humans. Hookworms and whipworms which are hard
> to get rid of to name two. Leptospirosis is on the rise and since it is
> contracted through contact with urine, more and more cases are seen
> in facilities that care for stray animals. Not at any time did I demean
> the OP by assuming that they would be eating feces. But we have to
> remember that some homes have children and toddlers in them. There
> was a case of a child dying from parasites licked from firewood brought
> in by the parents. And one does not have to ingest all parasites to be
> affected. How do we know that the OP's home does not have an ill person
in
> it - one whose immune system is not compromised thus
> being more prone to some parasites?
>
> Advising someone who is NOT trained in wildlife rehabilitation
> to take a wild creature into their homes (taking care of them might
>  as well be permission to take them into the home - because it is
> inevitable that they will) could be detrimental.

Oh, please. How far do you intend to reach to make a case for catching
hookworms from an opossum?  It's true, it _COULD_ happen, esp. if
there's a child in the home who likes to lick things, and whose immune
system is compromised by radiation therapy.

There's also a finite probability that there's an inbound asteroid
that has the opossum's name on it.  Or a Bigfoot who got bitten
by the opossum's mom, and is out to get even.

Stick with the higher probabilities.

It does no good to give advice based on 1000-year possibilities.

> Even the National Spossum Society recommends leacing
> the critters alone:

> "What to do if you encounter an opossum.... NOTHING.
> http://www.opossum.org/#Member****p

Let's be clear: In my post, you will not find _ANY_ suggestion
 that the OP take the opossum into his home and keep it as a pet.
And, indeed, the best thing one can do for an opossum is to leave
 it alone, just as the NOS says.

_HOWEVER_ -- you seem to have missed the part where something
has already been done. The baby is _ALREADY_ in his house. His
cat brought it there.

The issue, now, is how to keep it alive until help arrives.

Seems to me the OP only has two choices: Either keep it warm
and feed it decent food, until he can get it to a rehabber, or take
your advice and relegate it to certain death.

Jack

From: Jack Crenshaw <jcr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 13:57:10 GMT

Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!! What to do with baby Possum?

Sharon wrote:
> Your reading comprehension was compromised
> somewhere along the way.

Now start with the ad hominems, eh?

> I'm not pulling this info out of my butt.

Could've fooled me.

> FYI - a child's immune system doesn't have to be suppressed
> by radiation to act as a host for a parasite. It is immature and
> developing. Continue giving dangerous advice.
> I prefer to dump your a**.

Wow, _THAT'S_ a relief.

Jack

From:
Human_And_Animal_Behavior_Forensic_Sciences_Research_Laborat...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 17 May 2006 07:49:33 -0700

Subject: Re: EMERGENCY!! What to do with baby Possum?

HOWEDY Fred,

Fred Mann wrote:
> Hello, My cat brought in a baby possum tonight.

That was kindly of him! You got yourself a RESCUE kat!

> It is pretty small -- about twice the size of a chipmunk - - but its
eyes
> are open, so it's not a newborn.

Opossums should be ready for release at 20 to 22 weeks of age.

> It really looks just like a miniature adult. It seems to be in pretty
> good shape, considering I snapped it from the jaws of death.

Thanks to your kat RESCUING him! GOOD JOB!

Give your kitty kat a nice tuna treat or play with him
with a feather or sumpthin, for that good deed!

> It can climb and scamper around pretty well - no obvious wounds.

Good!

> My question is, should I just release it into the woods behind my house
> tonight?

You'll first have to get a guesstimate of his age.

> I don't know if it will be okay, or if it still needs its parents.

8 - 13 weeks - Eyes open, teeth present but still small. Thicker
fur developing with guard hairs beginning to emerge by 13 weeks.
Body LESS THAN 6 inches long EXXXCLUDING TAIL <{); ~ ) >

"Opossums should be ready for release at 20 to 22 weeks of age."

Looks like you'll have him for a while...

> I could certainly feed it for a few days if necessary,

Or a few weeks if you don't want to MURDER him as sharon
aka sharon too, veterinary malpractice office manager and
Mrs. veterinary malpracticioner advises you to do to the
LUCKY critter <{); ~ ) >

> but I'm just not sure what would be best (or if it would
> even accept food from me while in captivity).

If he's young enough he'll have no fear and will eat.

> Any advice would be much appreciated.

Here's EVERYTHING you gotta know EXXXCEPT the warnings
abHOWET possible rabies etc that sharon was kindly enough
to insufficiently warn you abHOWET, stuff like IF HE DIES
SUDDENTLY or bites you and escape better yourself AND
 rescue kitty kat to the HOWEspital or get his body to the state
laboratory for rabies testing.

Care and feeding: http://www.awrc.org/Baby%20Opossums.htm

> Thanks,

Not so fast, you can TRAIN him JUST LIKE a dog or kitty:

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I'm Jerry Howe, The Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ )  >

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> Fred Mann

Thank you for not following sharon too's uncaring
self centered idiotic animal murderin advice <{); ~ ) >

        The Freakin Simply Amazing Puppy Wizard <{); ~ ) >
 




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