"FurPaw" <furrealpawdog@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Handsome "Jack" Morrison wrote:
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>> First, rock-solid recalls (and the immediate and correct response to
>> commands) are directly related to how much time and effort a dog's
>> owner is willing to devote to training, including training with
>> distractions.
That's ABSURD and it's FALSE.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs.behavior
From: "TooCool" <larrym...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:56:16 GMT
Subject: Thinking Dogs
Using a proper training method, a method consonant with a dog's
nature, it is possible to enhance a dog's ability to think. If their
thinking faculty is not exercised and developed then dogs have a
tendency to bounce around, like a billiard ball, from one stimulus
to another.
But when a dog's thinking faculty is exercised and developed then
they enjoy using that faculty more and more. They begin to feel pride
in their accomplishments-you can observe their delight in the way
that they love to show off what they have learned.
As their thinking faculty develops you will begin to see them
improvise more and more, i.e., applying what they have learned
to new situations. Operant conditioning (clicker training) does
not exercise a dog's ability to think-it conditions a reflex like
reaction at the nervous system level.
If you desire to train a thinking dog, please read the Puppy Wizard's
Wits' End Training Method-it caters to the nature of our thinking dogs.
--Larry
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From: TooCool (larrym...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The Puppy Wizard's Wits End Training Method
I have studied canine behavior and dog training for
years. I have a huge library that covers every system
of training.
The Puppy Wizard's (Jerry Howe's) Wits' End Training
Method is by far the most scientific, the most advanced,
the kindest, the quickest and the most effective training
method yet discovered.
It is not an assortment of training tips and tricks; it is
a logically consistent system. Every behavior problem
and every obedience skill is treated in the same logically
consistent manner.
Please study his manual carefully. Please endeavor to
understand the basis of his system and please follow
his directions exactly. His manual is a masterpiece.
It is dense with theory, with explanation, with detailed
descriptions about why behavior problems occur and
how their solution should be approached.
One should not pick and choose from among his methods
based upon what you personally like or dislike. His is
not a bag of tricks but a complete and integrated system
for not only training a dog but for raising a loving companion.
When I once said to Jerry that his system creates for
you the dog of your dreams, his response was that it
produces for your dog the owner of his dreams.
You see, Jerry has discovered that if you are gentle
with your dog then he will be gentle with you, if you
praise your dog every time he looks at you, then you
will become the center of your dogs world, if you use
Jerry's sound distraction with praise, then it takes
just minutes-sometimes merely seconds-to train your
dog to not misbehave (even in your absence) (Just 15
seconds this morning to train my 10 week old puppy to
lie quietly and let me clip his nails).
Using Jerry's scientific method (sound distraction /
praise / alteration / variation) it takes just minutes to
train you dog to respond to your commands.
What a pleasure it was for me to see my 6 week old
puppy running as fast has his wobbly little legs would
carry him in response to my recall command-and he
comes running every time I call no matter where we are
or what he is doing.
At ten weeks old now, my puppy never strains upon
his leash thanks to Jerry's hot & cold exercises and
his Family Pack Leader****p exercises.
Jerry has discovered that if you scold your dog, if you
scream at him, if you intimidate him, if you hurt him,
if you force him then his natural response is to oppose
you.
Is Jerry a nut?
It doesn't make any difference to me whether he is or not.
It is a logical fallacy to judge a person's ideas based
upon their personality. As far as dogs are concerned, Jerry
wears his heart upon his sleeve. It touches him deeply when
he hears of trainers forcing, intimidating, scolding or
hurting dogs.
More than that, he knows that force is not effective
and that it will certainly lead to behavior problems;
sometime problems so severe that people put their
dogs down because of those problems.
I believe that it is natural for humans to want to control
their dog by force. Jerry knows this too. We have all been
at our wits' end, haven't we?
Dogs have a natural tendency to mimic. In scientific
literature it is referred to allelomimetic behavior. Dogs
respond in like kind to force; they respond in like kind
to praise.
Don't bribe your dog with treats; give him what he
wants most-your kind attention. Give him your praise.
You will be astonished at how your dog 's anxiety will
dissipate and how their behavior problems will dissipate
along with their anxiety.
Treat Jerry Howe's (The Puppy Wizard) Wits' End
Training Method as a scientific principle just as you
would the law of gravity and you will have astounding
success.
Dog behavior is just as scientific as is gravity.
If you follow Jerry's puppy rules you will get a sweet
little Magwai; if you don't you will surely get a little
gremlin (anyone see The Gremlins?).
--Larry
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> And how often everything is reinforced.
That's ABSURD and it's FALSE:
"REINFORCEMENT NEVER ENDS," FRAUDreck hassen.
>> And second, how effective the training techniques employed are.
tommy knows all abHOWET "effective training techniques".
tommy wrote:
From: dog...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Dogman) Date: 1997/11/11
Subject: Re: Koehler's Usefulness--A Concluding *****sment
This, from a yellow-bellied coward who has TOTALLY refused
to engage me in debate, preferring mudslinging, hyperbole, distortion,
lies, exaggeration, and to take Koehler completely out of context,
instead.
What lying hypocrites these hand-wringers are!
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BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> What techniques do you use?
tommy likes to jerk choke shock an beat dogs to train them.
>> It's really not a matter of the dog's age.
Of curse not.
> To some extent it must be, no?
No, not at all.
> Do you expect a rock solid recall (with the best of techniques) in a 3
> month old dog?
Only if you didn't get the dog until 3 months of age. OtheWIZE,
you can train ANY age dog to a 100% reliable come command
in just a few minutes simply by DOIN EVERY THING EXXXACTLY
PRECISELY OPPOSITE of HOWE tommy and his lyin dog murderin
punk thug coward mental case pals PREFER.
> What's the youngest age a dog you've trained
> has achieved a rock-solid recall?
That's IRELEVENT on accHOWENTA when they turn 8
months old they go through their "adolescent rebelliHOWES
stage" and won't do NUTHIN they been FORCED to do as pups.
> And at what age did you begin the training?
tommy can't start REAL trainin till the dog is old enough to
withstand jerking and choking on leash, maybe at four months,
preferably at six months of age.
>> And the amount of effort only matters if the technique being used is
any
>> good at achieving rock-solid recalls and immediate responses to
commands.
BWEEEAAAHAAAHAAA~!~!~!
> FurPaw
BlueMoon Wrote:
Hello MOCrab.
Well, I'd take your advice and go thru the killfile as you have
recommended below, but Jerry's system Is WORKING wonders
with these two puppies in a matter of days. He may be abusive
and short-tempered with some people out there because, quite
frankly, I think he cares more about the dogs that the owner's
feelings and feels so strongly about it, it's aggravating to have
"experts" discount his methods.
My husband just got back from taking these 15 week old pups
for a walk, who now respond remarkably well to the "Zena-Zoey-
sit-good-girl!" phrase now when only said once no matter where
they are.
They also respond to the come here command. We trained them
(granted, out of order of the instructions) with the pennies in the
cans only two days ago to come to us when called. I've since
backtracked to do the exercises in the proper order.
They are calm and well-behaved and impress the Hell out of anyone
who sees them. "You're kidding, they're only 14 weeks old and they
are THAT well behaved?" Yessiree Bob, they are, and we've only
had them for 12 days and have been training them (correctly for 3
days.
We still have more training exercises to do, but why fix something
if it's not broken??>?? These dogs are happy, we don't have to yell
at or scold them, they are learning to be secure and to pay attention
to us for approval and not out of fear.
I can only assume some might be threatened by this manual's methods
because it goes against all human logic on how to train a dog. It
certainly didn't make any sense to me, but I thought what the heck,
try it (even tho I still have to remind myself what to do because
my previous limited experiences with dog training were SO
DIFFERENT to the point that I almost felt like I needed to take
my brain out of my head and put it back in backwards!!!.....).....
BUT THE SYSTEM WORKS!!!
How in the world could someone just "make
something up" and it WORK?>??>?
My husband was very doubtful about this method when I told him I
wanted to try this. His dad was a vet, and certainly didn't use these
methods with the parade of dogs they had as kids. But now even HE
has to admit we're doing something right here, as our stress and
frustration levels have lowered and EVERYONE is much happier
around here, especially the dogs!
I really don't think people are used to the notion that you can train
a dog and it NOT be stressful or difficult.
It's easy IF you do it just like the manual says. It might be easier
for some to NOT do it now and go with the concept of control rather
than respect and understanding, because that's the way WE are used
to thinking and heaven forbid WE change OUR way of thinking and
admit we've done some counterproductive things in the past, right?
The results I'm seeing here with these puppies speaks volumes and
discounts what anyone tells me otherwise. This Wit's End manual
is now in a binder and we're sticking with it.
BlueMoon
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8. From: "starrk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <starrk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: 27 Jun 2006 19:37:25 -0700
Subject: Re: But it's working!!!
BlueMoon wrote:
> The results I'm seeing here with these puppies speaks volumes and
> discounts what anyone tells me otherwise. This Wit's End manual is now
in
> a binder and we're sticking with it. BlueMoon
Hi BlueMoon,
Its great that your pups are doing so well. The
Wits End method IS THE BEST WAY TO GO:-)
i wish i had found Jerry when my dog was a puppy,
would have saved so much trouble (and money).
good luck,
Crystal
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