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Re: New Fish Always killing off the tank.

by Larry <klkm@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 29, 2005 at 04:15 PM

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:35:19 GMT, "T" <tor_ent@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
>"Elaine T" <eetmail-aquaria@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>news:aONTd.9406$Pz7.2117@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Timothy E. Raborn wrote:
>>> "Dr Engelbert Buxbaum" <engelbert_buxbaum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
message 
>>> news:cvhrlm$min$04$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>>Timothy E. Raborn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm having problems adding new fish to my 30 gallon freshwater tank.
(I
>>>>>typically keep guppies and neon tetras in my tank with a pleco or
two).
>>>>
>>>>Guppies need hard, tetras soft water, so this combination is not very
>>>>good. Depending on your water params, you should decide on a matching
>>>>set of fishes.
>>>
>>> You're the first person I've ever heard say that guppies and neons
were 
>>> not compatible.
>>>
>> In an ideal world, guppies like hard water with some salt and neons
like 
>> soft water, as Dr. B mentions above.  Your water sounds better for
guppies 
>> than neons, but I wouldn't worry too much.
>>
>> I started thinking - many guppies and neons are sickly when they come
to 
>> the stores.  Both of these species are mass bred for the hobby, ****pped

>> too small, and often have poor genetics.  This may be why you're having

>> tank wipeouts.   For neons, watch the tanks of neons in LFS and buy
from 
>> tanks with big neons that have been in the store for a couple of weeks.

>> Avoid the tiny ones as they tend to be sickly.  As for guppies, see if
you 
>> can find a source for locally bred fish.  My LFS in Baltimore used to
get 
>> tanks of huge, healthy locally bred guppies from a hobby breeder. Your 
>> local aquarium society may also have someone who needs to find homes
for 
>> healthier guppies.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Oh brother...  Plants would be an entire other topic for me to post
on. 
>>> I have had terrible luck with plants.  They look good for about two 
>>> months, then slowly wither away.  The only plant that would grow was 
>>> Cobomba(sp?). But I swear it must have grown about an inch a day and
the 
>>> more it grew the more "stretched out" the limbs got and it wasn't very

>>> pretty.  For the first two years of tank owner****p, I spent a small 
>>> fortune buying new plants every couple of months and did quite a bit
of 
>>> research on how to be successful with it.  I tried all kinds of 
>>> techniques to be successful and nothing worked.  I had even added two 
>>> Nutrafin CO2 tanks to the tank and that helped a little, but not
enough. 
>>> In the end, I decided that I may not have enough light.  The hood that

>>> came with the tank will only take up to a 22W, but I can only find 15W

>>> lights (fluorescent) to fit it.  A calculation I found somewhere on
the 
>>> internet  indicated that I need about a 60W (was based on the depth of

>>> the aquarium).  It wasn't feasible for me to change out the hood, so
that 
>>> was the point I gave up and stocked up on the fake ones.  They look
ok, 
>>> but regardless of what the real plants do for the fish -- I wanted
them 
>>> for aesthetic reasons.  They look so much nicer.
>>>
>>
>> You're right - 15 watts is nowhere near enough for live plants in a 30 
>> gallon tank.  The legginess of the Cambomba is your first clue.  And
CO2 
>> doesn't help under low light conditions.  Your research is right that
60 
>> watts of full spectrum fluorescent light would give good growing 
>> conditions for most plants.  However if you can get even 30 watts you 
>> could grow low light plants like Anubias, Cryptocornes, java moss, and 
>> java fern.
>>
>> -- 
>>    __    Elaine T   


My plants were not doing well in my 26g for a long time.  So with some
advice from the ngs and some browsing I:

- took my plants out of the black pot and straight into the gravel
- started to add liquid CO2 (couldn't keep up with the DIY 2L)
- added iron (what a difference)
- more water changes
- and the biggest thing was an 18"  canopy with a 56w output.


Now my scissors are getting a good workout and the algae problem is
slowly being one.

Best of luck,

Larry
 




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New Fish Always killing off the tank.
"Timothy E. Raborn&q  2005-02-18 00:06:48 
Re: New Fish Always killing off the tank.
"Tedd Jacobs" &  2005-02-17 23:57:33 
Re: New Fish Always killing off the tank.
"Gill Passman"   2005-02-18 11:51:42 
Re: New Fish Always killing off the tank.
"Timothy E. Raborn&q  2005-02-19 08:22:09 
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"Tedd Jacobs" &  2005-02-19 14:38:35 
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"NetMax" <co  2005-02-19 18:18:12 
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"Margolis" <  2005-02-18 09:34:34 
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"Timothy E. Raborn&q  2005-02-19 08:25:52 
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"Margolis" <  2005-02-19 09:50:02 
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"NetMax" <co  2005-02-19 13:00:59 
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Dr Engelbert Buxbaum <  2005-02-23 13:07:12 
Re: New Fish Always killing off the tank.
"Timothy E. Raborn&q  2005-02-25 07:48:05 
Re: New Fish Always killing off the tank.
Elaine T <eetmail-aqua  2005-02-25 22:39:02 
Re: New Fish Always killing off the tank.
"T" <tor_ent  2005-06-29 17:35:19 
Re: New Fish Always killing off the tank.
Larry <klkm@[EMAIL PRO  2005-06-29 16:15:24 

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