>>On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:36:30 -0400, dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>> Then just say whether you suck up to the beast or you deny
>>>>>his existence.
I'll suck up to the Beast any day before I suck up to any false
Christ-image manufactured for the purpose of manipulating the
m*****.
>>>>i don't know what beast you are referring to here. i only believe
>>>>in myself and the beast within myself, not in any cartoon
>>>>character fabricated by the christians.
>>>
>>> At this point my impression is that the concept of Lucifer (or
>>>what/who ever) is included in the Old Testament, and that is
>>>what/who is Satan. That means the idea was around long
>>>before Christianity.
One has to question the validity of any Christian interpretation
as ****trayed in an English translation of the Old Testament. The
Hebrew language is very complex and where the word Satan appears
in a Christian bible, there more than likely are a number of
possible meanings associated with the actual Hebrew word in
question that are not being properly understood. One cannot go to
a Christian translation of Hebrew writing and expect that it is
going to be a valid representation of what those Hebrew authors
were trying to convey.
> Christ changed things, and unless you accept what he
>changed there will be things you could never understand.
>Of course even if you accept them you'll never be able to
>understand everything, but you would still be a lot better off
>than you are now if it's all for real. If it's all just bull**** then
>it makes no difference what anyone thinks.
To me Christ is just a myth. When a myth is brought from the realm
of the allegorical into the realm of the literal it loses its
significance and true im****t. Everything that is known as
Christianity today is absolute bull**** and has no
transformational value for humans per say. Humans may accept the
historical (false) Christ and achieve some seeming transformation
but this is due to their desire to change in the first place, and
not from any external influence associated with belief in a
literal Christ. If those people applied the same amount of effort
into trying to understand the mythical (true) Christ, any
spiritual advancement would be magnified for it would no longer be
an internal process but an actual external phenomena being
triggered by meditation upon the true meaning of said myth.
>>Judaism and Christianity are totally different
>>religions with different philosophical outlooks on life and the
>>world. Most im****tantly, the Jews do not accept Christ as the
>>Messiah, so according to Christians, that stance is itself
>>Satanic.
>
> We have no reason to believe the Jews are right.
We have every reason to listen to and trust in what any Jew says
of his own religion and own ancient writings much more than what a
Christian thinks of those same Hebrew writings. If a Jew says that
Christ is not the messiah, then that should be a settled issue and
there is absolutely no point in trying to tell a Jew what his
religion should be or shouldn't. The arrogance of Christians to
take a religion and turn it on its head is of a magnitude that
cannot be measured and has contributed more to the persecution of
Jews than anything else in the last two millennia. The True God
(if there is such a thing) will one day avenge the inhumane
persecution of the Jewish people by arrogant and ignorant
Christians who persist in misinterpreting Holy Scripture and
mythological teachings.
>The persecution etc they must bear as a people is evidence of
>where they are on that, if it's all for real.
It shows that ignorance and evil knows no bounds.
> The only Jew I
>discussed it with in person doesn't believe in any afterlife,
God bless him.
>or in Satan. When I asked why bother praying and all that
>then, he acted like it was for this life only. However, the
>OT does mention resurrection:
Nor you nor any other Christian knows more than a Jew about his
own ancient writings or about his own religion.
[bull**** biblical quotations snipped]
>>>>any brand of satanism will be better than the
>>>>worst brand of christianity.
>>>
>>> Can you provide examples?
Satanists don't go around distorting other people's religions and
persecuting said people for millennia based on lies and hatred;
thus by default the worst Satanist will be more respectful and
humane than even the best Christian with the seeming best of
intentions.
octinomos
--
``Could it be that ... political theater is being staged, very much like
the wrestling matches on TV, with the so-called neoconservatives and their
so-called enemies, such as Pat Buchanan, loudly making public statements
intended to convince the opponents of US foreign policy actions that these
actions are the fault of 'the Jews'?'' --Jared Israel/Emperor's Clothes
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